By Forever Go To PostAn embarrassing strawman. You're so mad (over nothing) that you're babbling nonsense like an idiot. No one is saying Monsanto is a wonderful company, they're saying that the FUD about GMOs is unscientific and unhelpful, a stance that you decline to attack because you know you'd be factually wrong.
In 2005 an estimated 190 million children and 19 million pregnant women, in 122 countries, were affected by vitamin A deficiency, which is responsible for 2 million deaths and 500,000 cases of permanent blindness every year. That is the status quo. Golden Rice could have helped those people if it hadn't been a victim of the lunatics you are presently defending. The founder of Greenpeace left Greenpeace over this issue.
Stop being such an emotional little bitch.
Im creating the straw man argument? Tell me how a liberal pro organic individual in LA is stopping golden rice from being in the marketplace in India. Furthermore, tell me how Golden Rice is the only acceptable solution to vitamin A deficiencies, that I don't know, a fucking vitamin A tablet can't achieve. How about instead of force feeding poor people golden rice they're distrustful of. Get them some carrots.
There are a million and one ways to get vitamin A to impoverished areas. There aren't a million and one ways to prevent an outbreak of Polio and Smallpox or build other worlds to live in once climate changes ravages this one.
You're the emotional one. Literally doubling down on your asinine comparison of supporting chipotle being akin to scientific Hitler.
"Unscientific and unhelpful?" It may be unhelpful to do this Iran deal. That doesn't mean you're marching Jewish people to the oven door. If you could follow the basic point I made, it wasn't that GMO's are evil or opposition to them is helpful and scientific. it was that you equating people that like organic food and don't trust GMO's to people who are baiting the extinction of the species a la climate change denial and refusing to vaccinate is Mike Fucking Huckabee-esque level of laziness.
Eating at chipotle isn't why millions of kids are dying from vitamin A defficiencies, you jackass.
By Vahagn Go To PostIm creating the straw man argument? Tell me how a liberal pro organic individual in LA is stopping golden rice from being in the marketplace in India.Yes you are, and you also aren't arguing in good faith but I've been indulging you anyway. The 2013 test plot of Golden Rice in the Philippines was literally uprooted by far left protesters. That is the hysteria you are making excuses for.
Furthermore, tell me how Golden Rice is the only acceptable solution to vitamin A deficiencies, that I don't know, a fucking vitamin A tablet can't achieve.l m a o
You've just forfeited any claim to scientific curiosity or familiarity with this subject; the answer is readily available and actually common sense. Vitamin A tablets are not locally sustainable. There is no viable way to deliver tablets to the 210 million people who need them, which is why they are fucking suffering in the first place. Golden Rice on the other hand can be grown in place of their staple crops.
Get them some carrots."Let them eat cake." Carrots don't grow well in their climates and soils. Did you really think this never occurred to anyone before you?
There are a million and one ways to get vitamin A to impoverished areas.Then present them you policy genius!
You're the emotional one. Literally doubling down on your asinine comparison of supporting chipotle being akin to scientific Hitler.You're the only one who's been invoking Godwin's Law. You're completely out of your depth.
http://youtu.be/WDWEjSDYfxc
This is the dude you posted, literally questioning climate change. So, I guess this pro GMO dude is a climate change denier. Interesting.
Also, no I didn't support those people in the Phillipines. Like at all. I supported wanting foods labeled at the state level if that's what people wanted and Chipotle making a decision not to use GMO foods. Not banning GMO foods worldwide or engaging in Eco terrororism. But, straw man arguments seem to be irresistible to you.
While it may be more expedient to get golden rice to people, again, let's not pretend that eating at chipotle or buying organic apples in LA is why golden rice isn't in the hands of impoverished families in India. Which is the link you tried to make.
People have talked about feeding malnutritioned kids and families worldwide for centuries. And people have come up with lots of seemingly practical ways to do it in theory. If Mansanto wasn't so damn terrifying and nakedly attempting to control and bully poor farmers, there might not be movements in places like India against the seed.
None of this is even worth it because you're that dude that compares everyone to Hitler than cant understand what the big deal is, "but he called me an asshole. He's hitler"
For the millionth time, eating at chipotle doesn't make you a climate change denier. But apparently supporting golden rice does and you're so clownshoes you use him as an argument to make your point.
That's some, take your tail in between your legs and walk home with the L shit there.
This is the dude you posted, literally questioning climate change. So, I guess this pro GMO dude is a climate change denier. Interesting.
Also, no I didn't support those people in the Phillipines. Like at all. I supported wanting foods labeled at the state level if that's what people wanted and Chipotle making a decision not to use GMO foods. Not banning GMO foods worldwide or engaging in Eco terrororism. But, straw man arguments seem to be irresistible to you.
While it may be more expedient to get golden rice to people, again, let's not pretend that eating at chipotle or buying organic apples in LA is why golden rice isn't in the hands of impoverished families in India. Which is the link you tried to make.
People have talked about feeding malnutritioned kids and families worldwide for centuries. And people have come up with lots of seemingly practical ways to do it in theory. If Mansanto wasn't so damn terrifying and nakedly attempting to control and bully poor farmers, there might not be movements in places like India against the seed.
None of this is even worth it because you're that dude that compares everyone to Hitler than cant understand what the big deal is, "but he called me an asshole. He's hitler"
For the millionth time, eating at chipotle doesn't make you a climate change denier. But apparently supporting golden rice does and you're so clownshoes you use him as an argument to make your point.
That's some, take your tail in between your legs and walk home with the L shit there.
None of this is even worth it because you're that dude that compares everyone to Hitler than cant understand what the big deal is, "but he called me an asshole. He's hitler"I'm not sure why I have to point out again that you are the only one who has been doing this. The lack of self-awareness is incredible.
Also completely baffled by why you're ranting about Chipotle as if I give a fuck what a private business does to convince customers that they're not serving factory food. You just got rekt on every single attack you made on GMOs and Golden Rice and are now bringing up completely tangential shit to save face.
"Get them some carrots." Never forget.
You: anti GMO people are the same as anti-cadets and climate change deniers
Me: that's a lazy comparison and the scientific version of comparing an asshole to Hitler. Wanting to eat organic foods isn't the same as risking a population with a deadly epidemic or an extinction level event such as climate change. Anti-vaxxers and climate change deniers are their own level of crazy Because of the scope of danger they're whistling past the graveyard with.
You: Fuck you if you think starving yourself is better than dying of Polio.
Me: uh what the fuck. Which pro organic, pro chipotle person is advocating people starving?
And then you went off into nonsense and gibberish literally posing a climate change denier as some hero and pretending that golden rice is a) the only solution to malnutrition and b) inaccessible in India because of LA hippies that shop at whole foods.
Me: that's a lazy comparison and the scientific version of comparing an asshole to Hitler. Wanting to eat organic foods isn't the same as risking a population with a deadly epidemic or an extinction level event such as climate change. Anti-vaxxers and climate change deniers are their own level of crazy Because of the scope of danger they're whistling past the graveyard with.
You: Fuck you if you think starving yourself is better than dying of Polio.
Me: uh what the fuck. Which pro organic, pro chipotle person is advocating people starving?
And then you went off into nonsense and gibberish literally posing a climate change denier as some hero and pretending that golden rice is a) the only solution to malnutrition and b) inaccessible in India because of LA hippies that shop at whole foods.
By Forever Go To PostYou: Get them some carrots.
Me: LMFAO
A) sarcasm b) replacing crops that vitamin A deficient people are growing with golden rice will just make them deficient in other vitamins that golden rice doesn't provide but their current diet does. "Get them some carrots" was shorthand for, stop trying to be lazy, and solve actual malnutrition, instead of pretending there's only one solution to malnutrition in the world in a desperate attempt to equate the morality of shopping at whole foods with the morality of not vaccinating your child.
I supported wanting foods labeled at the state level if that's what people wanted and Chipotle making a decision not to use GMO foods
Right, which is supporting the FUD. Back to square one. You can't provide why labeling would be needed beyond some irrational doubt and a, "well keeping it out ain't worse".
None of this is even worth it because you're that dude that compares everyone to Hitler than cant understand what the big deal is, "but he called me an asshole. He's hitler"
You literally started this by calling him mike huckabee
Me: that's a lazy comparison and the scientific version of comparing an asshole to Hitler. Wanting to eat organic foods isn't the same as risking a population with a deadly epidemic or an extinction level event such as climate change. Anti-vaxxers and climate change deniers are their own level of crazy Because of the scope of danger they're whistling past the graveyard with.
How is it a lazy comparison? Science on this is pretty clear. Your rebuttal is "well we don't know it's not been decades upon decades." You're propagating FUD.
You keep downplaying the possible benefits too.
By Fenderputty Go To PostRight, which is supporting the FUD. Back to square one. You can't provide why labeling would be needed beyond some irrational doubt and a, "well keeping it out ain't worse".
You literally started this by calling him mike huckabee
Mike Huckabee isn't Hitler. Mike Huckabee is a guy who compared something sort of, kind of, in a similar realm, if you squint and suspend real logical thinking long enough to Hitler. I suggested him comparing whole foods shoppers to people playing with fire or risking epidemics and extinction level events is the same as Mike Huckabee comparing Obama to Hitler.
I.e. Climate change denier should be like Hitler. It shouldn't be thrown around to compare anyone you don't think is "scientific enough". Because it's not about accepting or rejecting science. It's about something far more severe, hustler wasn't JUST an asshole or JUST a racist. He was pure evil. And just like Goodwin's Law, comparing anyone whose science you find questionable to climate change deniers shouldn't be acceptable. Those people are willingly and proudly pushing us towards extinction.
By Forever Go To PostI'm done btw. I got a new tag out of it.
this is long but, "shopping at whole foods is as bad as the Holocaust" should be your political bumper sticker
Here's another good one.
"My Trump Card hero against climate change deniers is a climate change denier...really should have done my research"
Rememeber that one time a forever tried to morally equate shopping at a Whole Foods with starving millions of impoverished children? Good times.
When did I say mike huckabee is hitler? You hand waved him off by basically saying, "you're just some guy who argues by comparing people to some horrible dude." Yet you started the argument by comparing him to a horrible dude. I don't give a fuck which one is worse comparatively.
IMO, the only reason you even did that is because you got your panties in a bunch and took offense to the idea that buying into the anti GMO FUD, which you clearly do, somehow makes you as irrational as an anti vaxxer. Yet here you are, without a rational argument against GE foods, still typing away.
I mean, what the fuck does Monsanto even have to do with this? Forever is correct. You're off on tangents.
IMO, the only reason you even did that is because you got your panties in a bunch and took offense to the idea that buying into the anti GMO FUD, which you clearly do, somehow makes you as irrational as an anti vaxxer. Yet here you are, without a rational argument against GE foods, still typing away.
I mean, what the fuck does Monsanto even have to do with this? Forever is correct. You're off on tangents.
By Fenderputty Go To PostWhen did I say mike huckabee is hitler? You hand waved him off by basically saying, "you're just some guy who argues by comparing people to some horrible dude." Yet you started the argument by comparing him to a horrible dude. I don't give a fuck which one is worse comparatively.
IMO, the only reason you even did that is because you got your panties in a bunch and took offense to the idea that buying into the anti GMO FUD, which you clearly do, somehow makes you as irrational as an anti vaxxer. Yet here you are, without a rational argument against GE foods, still typing away.
I mean, what the fuck does Monsanto even have to do with this? Forever is correct. You're off on tangents.
Holy shit. NOTHING is like being a climate change denier or anti-Vaxxer.
If you're scared to use Facebook, you're not like a climate change denier. If you don't acknowledge analytics in basketball, you're not a climate change denier. If you fucking think the earth is flat, you're not a climate change denier. Climate change deniers have a special place, next to anti-vaxxers for taking unscientific decisions that risk humanity marching to extinction and doing it proudly.
The idiotic notion that anyone who isn't "scientific enough for you" is just like a climate change denier is what I'm challenging. I think your FUD of farmed organisms laced with pesticides is as absurd as someone's FUD of GMO's. If not more so. But none of that shit matters. That doesn't make you equal to a climate change denier.
I don't give a shit about GMO's. Like at all. I don't actively avoid them, or use them. I eat whatever I want to eat, because all of the evidence to date suggests there's no discernible difference between organic and GMO. For someone obsessed with an offhand remark I made about "another reason X isn't like Y is because X has been around for 100 years and Y has been around for only 25" you're awfully weird about arguing that GMO foods that remove pesticides are better despite a shit ton more than 25 years of foods being laced with pesticides and no negative consequences being reached in the scientific community on anything resembling a consensus.
Like, you can't drink a quart of pesticides (as Forever's hero tried to argue) but we've been using pesticides to grow food for a long long time and there's no evidence that commercial use and application means that if you spend 5 years eating fruit with pesticides and 5 years eating fruit without it, there will be a difference. The same kinds of studies PRO GMO people demand to conclusively prove GMO's are flawed dot exist in foods grown with pesticide uses either.
You posted 4 paragraphs that said virtually nothing. You're still downplaying the potential positives (comparing anti GMO to a flat earther lmao) and you suggest I use Facebook :/
And your off on the pesticide tangent. Reducing pesticides is generally important for the same group of people who are anti GMO! Which is exactly why that info is presented. Are you on here babbling about labeling foods with what pesticides have been used? The levels they were used? Where the fruit came from? Is the food has DNA? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/01/17/over-80-percent-of-americans-support-mandatory-labels-on-foods-containing-dna/
It serves no point other than to misinform and imply danger.
And your off on the pesticide tangent. Reducing pesticides is generally important for the same group of people who are anti GMO! Which is exactly why that info is presented. Are you on here babbling about labeling foods with what pesticides have been used? The levels they were used? Where the fruit came from? Is the food has DNA? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/01/17/over-80-percent-of-americans-support-mandatory-labels-on-foods-containing-dna/
It serves no point other than to misinform and imply danger.
if I said nothing to you, it's because you're treating this like some damn crusade of enlightenment To where you can't even fathom any argument against your position to be anything other than FUD.
You're being beyond an ideological hack here, striving for absolute ideological purity and being unwilling to accept even the most basic premise that people who shop at whole foods shouldn't be demonized and compared to those who would willingly March us to extinction.
And no I didn't suggest you use FB, I listed a bunch of irrational, backwards thinking viewpoints, and made the point that none of them are like being a climate change denier.
Also, why are you attacking pesticides again? How are properly farmed foods using pesticides dangerous? Point me to a scientific study that concluded that people who ate foods that were farmed with pesticides in the process are less healthy than people who ate foods without pesticides in the process.
And no, at no point did I suggest that GMO foods can have no foreseeable benefits. Golden Rice being an example. I suggested two truths.
1) shopping at whole foods isn't the reason that Golden Rice isn't in poor Indian communities now. Stop demonizing people who buy organic, even if you think they've been hoodwinked by marketing misinformation
2) there are no studies to suggest that GMO foods are healthier than organic foods. For the sake of argument, stop using your perceived air tight logic, and present a scientific study that suggests that Chipotle's food is now significantly less healthy for a human being then their food was prior. Or that organic apples at whole foods are less healthy than GMO ones somewhere else. The overwhelming consensus among these studies is that there are no discernible differences
Between people tested eating GMO foods, and NON GMO foods.
Holy shit dude, you're the reason people hate liberals. Pedantic and high horsy as fuck.
You're being beyond an ideological hack here, striving for absolute ideological purity and being unwilling to accept even the most basic premise that people who shop at whole foods shouldn't be demonized and compared to those who would willingly March us to extinction.
And no I didn't suggest you use FB, I listed a bunch of irrational, backwards thinking viewpoints, and made the point that none of them are like being a climate change denier.
Also, why are you attacking pesticides again? How are properly farmed foods using pesticides dangerous? Point me to a scientific study that concluded that people who ate foods that were farmed with pesticides in the process are less healthy than people who ate foods without pesticides in the process.
And no, at no point did I suggest that GMO foods can have no foreseeable benefits. Golden Rice being an example. I suggested two truths.
1) shopping at whole foods isn't the reason that Golden Rice isn't in poor Indian communities now. Stop demonizing people who buy organic, even if you think they've been hoodwinked by marketing misinformation
2) there are no studies to suggest that GMO foods are healthier than organic foods. For the sake of argument, stop using your perceived air tight logic, and present a scientific study that suggests that Chipotle's food is now significantly less healthy for a human being then their food was prior. Or that organic apples at whole foods are less healthy than GMO ones somewhere else. The overwhelming consensus among these studies is that there are no discernible differences
Between people tested eating GMO foods, and NON GMO foods.
Holy shit dude, you're the reason people hate liberals. Pedantic and high horsy as fuck.
The comparison is, "it's anti science". Not which anti science whack job is doing the most potential harm. Being anti GE foods is as anti science as anti vax and anti global warming. You're arguing over a comparison never made.
I'm not even rallying against pesticides. I'm saying that's why somone who's generally anti GE foods might reconsider their position. And in if you can't have it both ways, like you said, start arguing for why we should put labeling on food for DNA and the pesticides as well. I even provided you a poll showing Americans would want that.
You've used ad hom multiple times now. I'm done with you.
I'm not even rallying against pesticides. I'm saying that's why somone who's generally anti GE foods might reconsider their position. And in if you can't have it both ways, like you said, start arguing for why we should put labeling on food for DNA and the pesticides as well. I even provided you a poll showing Americans would want that.
You've used ad hom multiple times now. I'm done with you.
Not all anti science viewpoints are created equal. Just as not all diplomatic resolutions that might not be great for the state of Israel are Hitler Holocaust esque. Insert Mike Huckabbee statement here.
Save "climate change denier" and "anti-vaxxer accusations" for those specific people who are willing to jeopardize our species' survival - not people, who as I've said a million times, aren't "scientific enough for you".
Let's agree that Climate change denier should only be used to describe ACTUAL climate change deniers, just as Nazi labels should be a used to describe actual Neo-Nazi's. Otherwise you get what Forever did. Equate anti GMO people with climate change deniers (most of whom accept climate change) and then actually present a real life climate change denier as a voice of reason.
Save "climate change denier" and "anti-vaxxer accusations" for those specific people who are willing to jeopardize our species' survival - not people, who as I've said a million times, aren't "scientific enough for you".
Let's agree that Climate change denier should only be used to describe ACTUAL climate change deniers, just as Nazi labels should be a used to describe actual Neo-Nazi's. Otherwise you get what Forever did. Equate anti GMO people with climate change deniers (most of whom accept climate change) and then actually present a real life climate change denier as a voice of reason.
That's how analogies work. A comparison of unlike things to draw a common. In this case the common thing among the three is: science is pretty conclusive against the naysayers.
I'm sorry you don't like unlike things being compared here.
It's irrelent.
I'm sorry you don't like unlike things being compared here.
It's irrelent.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThat's how analogies work. A comparison of unlike things to draw a common. In this case the common thing among the three is: science is pretty conclusive against the naysayers.
I'm sorry you don't like unlike things being compared here.
It's irrelent.
Yea dude, it's an analogy. Mike Huckabee would be proud of you. But it's innapropriate and lazy. Attacking Green Peace as "climate change deniers" is lazy because, well, they're kind of one of the most foremost advocate organizations fighting against climate change and pushing for strict regulations.
Comparing every new govt Law with Nazi Germany and every asshe on the planet with Hitler are analogies too. And they're also lazy and innapropriate.
I'm sorry someone doesn't want whole foods shoppers demonized to the extent you do.
Stop making lazy, poorly thought out, and offensive comparisons and people will stop calling you out on it.
I never once attacked Greenpeace and definitely not for being a climate change denier. Though I think it's hilarious you mention them since their co-founder left because of their recent anti science stances. I never once brought up Nazis either. That was you hand waving Forever's rebuttal away. I also never demonized people who shop at whole foods, though I do think that if someone shops their to avoid GE foods they're largely buying into the FUD without reason. I did, however, say the labeling of GE foods due to irrational public fear helps to spread FUD. I also said that all three positions are anti science and that in this way they're similar. I'm sorry you feel it's offensive. Though based on the way you argue, I don't think you should concern yourself with perceived offensive comparisons.
I really am done arguing with you now on this as I don't feel like being called lazy, pedantic, high horsey or scapegoated for the reason people hate liberals.
I really am done arguing with you now on this as I don't feel like being called lazy, pedantic, high horsey or scapegoated for the reason people hate liberals.
Rubio on Cecil the Lion: "Why are people sad about this this when they could be helping us stop Holocaust 2: Iran edition, or defund Planned Parenthood?!?!?!!"
Paraphrased... slightly.
It's pretty much as pathetic as described though.
Paraphrased... slightly.
It's pretty much as pathetic as described though.
By db Go To PostRepublicans can't fuck with the gays right now so they moved on to women.
Huckabee literally proposing a war on women with actual, physical military troops was epic.
Also epic:
It's been easy for his gubernatorial rivals to drive to his right. Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-La.) launched a statewide investigation of the group, leaving some exasperated chapters explaining that they did not perform abortions, and thus had no fetal tissue to donate or talk callously about.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI can't believe they're trying to drum up support for a shutdown.Not to be an ass but why?
By Fenderputty Go To PostI never once attacked Greenpeace and definitely not for being a climate change denier. Though I think it's hilarious you mention them since their co-founder left because of their recent anti science stances. I never once brought up Nazis either. That was you hand waving Forever's rebuttal away. I also never demonized people who shop at whole foods, though I do think that if someone shops their to avoid GE foods they're largely buying into the FUD without reason. I did, however, say the labeling of GE foods due to irrational public fear helps to spread FUD. I also said that all three positions are anti science and that in this way they're similar. I'm sorry you feel it's offensive. Though based on the way you argue, I don't think you should concern yourself with perceived offensive comparisons.
I really am done arguing with you now on this as I don't feel like being called lazy, pedantic, high horsey or scapegoated for the reason people hate liberals.
You talked your fair share of shit. But enough name calling on both sides. You're right.
As for the bolded. I've addressed this. That individual who supports golden rice and left because of green peace's "anti science" stance is really just a reformed conservative asshat.
This is that same ass hat attempting to debunk climate change.
http://youtu.be/RkdbSxyXftc
Here he is again
http://youtu.be/WDWEjSDYfxc
So no, he didn't leave because GreenPeace was anti science. He left because he's turned into a conservative talking head. And you're Literally defending an ACTUAL climate change denier because in your mind acceptance of GMO is synonymous with scientific enlightenment.
(Btw - I mentioned GreenPeace because the original slate article you referenced essentially made them seem like public enemy #1)
This should at the very least, hopefully, cause you to rethink the connections you're making.
By db Go To PostNot to be an ass but why?
Getting close to an election cycle.
Our eighty-one year old Senator seems to be planning to run for another term in 2018. He's planning to be senator until 2025 when he'd be ninety-one years old.
Why.
Why.
By db Go To PostAll the more reason to beat on that drum from their perspective.
I imagine some of the more realistic national candidates will say it's irresponsible. Who knows though. Maybe they go full crazy
I think it's time for the GOP to combine their current obsessions to point out that more Jews have been killed by abortions made legal by the Israeli government than in the Holocaust. That will go well and seems like a good idea. Go for it, guys.
I highly doubt Rubio, Walker, or Trump will be against using a government shutdown to try to defund PP.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI imagine some of the more realistic national candidates will say it's irresponsible. Who knows though. Maybe they go full crazy
I highly doubt Rubio, Walker, or Trump will be against using a government shutdown to try to defund PP.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostOur eighty-one year old Senator seems to be planning to run for another term in 2018. He's planning to be senator until 2025 when he'd be ninety-one years old.The prevalence of really old senators makes me imagine there's not much to the job, to be honest.
Why.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI highly doubt Rubio, Walker, or Trump will be against using a government shutdown to try to defund PP.
Trump might surprise? Agree with the other too. Bush might be against one
i debate trump gets bodied and that's that at the debate
if he can somehow survive or even do well, then its time for the right to get shook
if he can somehow survive or even do well, then its time for the right to get shook
By Dark PhaZe Go To Posti debate trump gets bodied and that's that at the debate
if he can somehow survive or even do well, then its time for the right to get shook
Scott Walker is the worst speaker possible and Bush refuses to say anything about anything, Trump's going to do well at the debates.
Also, this chart is just sad:
Perry had a good lead in the nomination... until he showed he cared about illegal immigrants.
Bobby Jindal cut funding to PP in Louisiana even though the PPs in his state don't perform abortions, this guy is willing to stop women from getting cancer screenings just to get attention, holy shit.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostBobby Jindal cut funding to PP in Louisiana even though the PPs in his state don't perform abortions, this guy is willing to stop women from getting cancer screenings just to get attention, holy shit.
As if I needed more reason to think jindal is an asshole.
Jeb! is so terrible at public speaking, if Rubio can't grab the 2016 nomination against this shit field, he should probably give up on that president idea.
By db Go To PostWho needs health care for women. Let's have another trillion dollar jet project failure.
HAHA Jebs recent comments about not needing to spend money on women's healthcare. He's already walking back too and trying to tie the comment into the PP fiasco. Most of what PP does isn't abortion related but rather women's healthcare related. Fucking ridiculous. I can't believe he's being such a shitty politician.
Women don't need cancer screenings, pelvic exams, pap smears, mammograms or contraceptive assistance. America doesn't need it. What we need are cluster bombs and jets that don't fly.