By Enron Go To PostDonald Trump is a fucking shitfuck. Would sooner vote for Hillary than his stupid ass.
You're not a total loss :P
By Gabyskra Go To PostObama's declaration about the responsibility of the muslim community is shameful.
He's already painted as weak here. He's painted as well for continuously framing this as an ISIS thing and not and Islamic thing. Saying that ISIS doesn't represent Islam.
By Fenderputty Go To PostHe's already painted as weak here. He's painted as well for continuously framing this as an ISIS thing and not and Islamic thing. Saying that ISIS doesn't represent Islam.
That is no excuse. That is letting Trump dictate your politics.
By Gabyskra Go To PostThat is no excuse. That is letting Trump dictate your politics.
Maybe, but I wouldn't call him asking the Muslim communities to police the extremism shameful like I would equating all Muslims to radicalized Islam.
By Gabyskra Go To PostObama's declaration about the responsibility of the muslim community is shameful.
Not really. I am sure it is something that most Muslim communities have already considered. Like, why wouldn't they?
By Wedward Go To PostNot really. I am sure it is something that most Muslim communities have already considered. Like, why wouldn't they?
When the Head of State tells a community "police your own", he says they are all collectively responsible for crimes they have not committed. It is a serious breach on simple centuries-old principles of equality before the law, and that individuals answer to individual crimes. It is incredibly telling that so-called liberals have no issue with that, simply because their leader thought it was smart. How can you not recognize this? Furthermore, this is islamophobia. Would he have told evangelicals to watch their ranks if a handful of evangelicals committed such acts? Never in a million years.
By Gabyskra Go To PostWhen the Head of State tell a community "police your own", he says they are all collectively responsible for crimes they have not committed. It is a serious breach on simple centuries-old principles of equality before the law, and that individuals answer to individual crimes. It is incredibly telling that so-called liberals have no issue with that, simply because their leader thought it was smart. How can you not recognize this? Furthermore, this is islamophobia. Would he have told evangelicals to watch their ranks if a handful of evangelicals committed such acts? Never in a million years.
Think he is referring more to radicalization than to actual crimes.
Radicalization is obviously an issue within Muslim communities. You and I aren't going to be able to help prevent it. Only people within those communities can.
"And we are cooperating with Muslim-majority countries -- and with our Muslim communities here at home -- to counter the vicious ideology that ISIL promotes online.
That does not mean denying the fact that an extremist ideology has spread within some Muslim communities. This is a real problem that Muslims must confront, without excuse. Muslim leaders here and around the globe have to continue working with us to decisively and unequivocally reject the hateful ideology that groups like ISIL and al Qaeda promote; to speak out against not just acts of violence, but also those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible with the values of religious tolerance, mutual respect, and human dignity."
By Wedward Go To PostThink he is referring more to radicalization than to actual crimes.
Radicalization is obviously an issue within Muslim communities. You and I aren't going to be able to help prevent it. Only people within those communities can.
"And we are cooperating with Muslim-majority countries – and with our Muslim communities here at home – to counter the vicious ideology that ISIL promotes online."
That's how I read it. Like asking for help because it's impossible to police home grown self radicalization.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThat's how I read it. Like asking for help because it's impossible to police home grown self radicalization.
Right, and asking people outside those communities to work toward preventing it is only asking for trouble.
Did we hear Obama say the same thing to Evangelicals after the Planned Parenthood shooting in late november?
No.
There's a reason for that. Because Muslims are subject to xenophobia, and Evangelicals are not. This declaration is a manifestation of it.
No.
There's a reason for that. Because Muslims are subject to xenophobia, and Evangelicals are not. This declaration is a manifestation of it.
Brave man is brave:
Rubio "disagrees" with Trump, how strong.
I disagree with Donald Trump's latest proposal. His habit of making offensive and outlandish statements will not bring Americans together.
Rubio "disagrees" with Trump, how strong.
By Fenderputty Go To PostYou're not a total loss :P
Oh fuck off
By Forever Go To PostAre you alright IWMTB? I saw how you got got in PoliGAF.
Yeah, I had a super emotional week regarding my family and domestic violence, but I'm okay. Just a month ban.
The amount of shit that women I know have had to go through is so fucked.
And then it's just heartbreaking to hear them talk about themselves as a bad person when they had an abortion at four weeks to help distance themselves from a violent partner.
By Enron Go To PostOh fuck off
:P
By IWMTB19 Go To PostYeah, I had a super emotional week regarding my family and domestic violence, but I'm okay. Just a month ban.Keep your head up. Must've felt good to vent.
The amount of shit that women I know have had to go through is so fucked.
And then it's just heartbreaking to hear them talk about themselves as a bad person when they had an abortion at four weeks to help distance themselves from a violent partner.
By Gabyskra Go To PostThat is no excuse. That is letting Trump dictate your politics.
Obama has very little to lose tho
Dude is done.
I see that he is doing his best to deflect a North America crusades
its not as if Obama is wrong--muslim communities have a strong ability and responsibility to reject violent action--but yes, as well, christians too have to do the same in regards to right wing extremists/domestic terrorists
he'd have done well to include that as well
he'd have done well to include that as well
In light of Trump and Cruz dominating the polls, it's time to remember that some Supreme Court members believe racism doesn't exist anymore:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/06/18/3671107/two-years-ago-supreme-court-said-isnt-enough-racism-justify-voting-rights-act/
Also:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/06/18/3671107/two-years-ago-supreme-court-said-isnt-enough-racism-justify-voting-rights-act/
Also:
The Dan Carlin explanation on the "Logical Insanity" episode of Hardcore History shows how one can get to that point.
Sure, in a vacuum it is never justifiable to target civilians. But in a total war situation the terms of the conflict change. It becomes about inflicting maximum pain on the opposing society to (hopefully) shorten the conflict.
I would never want to be in the position of making those decisions though. And there should be harsh and effective penalties for war criminals, but that's hard to do without unprecedented international cooperation.
Sure, in a vacuum it is never justifiable to target civilians. But in a total war situation the terms of the conflict change. It becomes about inflicting maximum pain on the opposing society to (hopefully) shorten the conflict.
I would never want to be in the position of making those decisions though. And there should be harsh and effective penalties for war criminals, but that's hard to do without unprecedented international cooperation.
It's just a "Muslims are more violent!" stereotype breaking thing:
Today's polls prior to the Trump creeping closer to fascism statement:
.... This looks bad for the establishment if only 17% are undecided and 44% are definitely all in for Trump or Cruz.
Today's polls prior to the Trump creeping closer to fascism statement:
.... This looks bad for the establishment if only 17% are undecided and 44% are definitely all in for Trump or Cruz.
RT @NateSilver538: There are (slightly) more Bernie supporters than Trump ones, but Trump has gotten 23X more network news coverage. https://t.co/MEICHmSxOt
Republican frontrunner Donald Trump, unsurprisingly, is the most-covered candidate in the race. In fact, he alone has gotten more airtime (234 minutes) than the entire Democratic field (226 minutes).
HA ... trumps so good at this. He doesn't have to spend money because the media will just blast whatever he says 24 hours a day.
He's literally the lead story for every news outlet on TV. Just took the first 12 minutes of NBC news, which then segue right into San Bernardino shooters--and they're going to close with a Trump inspired Tom Brokaw segment about how damaging the banning Muslim rhetoric can be with relations overseas.
By DY_nasty Go To Post17% undecided republicans lmao
The field is like trying to choose something off the menu at the cheesecake factory.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThe field is like trying to choose something off the menu at the cheesecake factory.So you're saying even their best tasting item still tastes like shit and gives you a feeling of regret the moment you picked it?
By reilo Go To PostSo you're saying even their best tasting item still tastes like shit and gives you a feeling of regret the moment you picked it?Its been like that for a while. I think most were even ready to accept Bush even though he was probably wet garbage. Him being dismantled, Carson being a literal clown, and.... all that's left is Trump and Rubio? Yeah. Paul Ryan 2020. Save your dollars.
Paul Ryan is not a moderate either. He wants to reduce the top tax bracket from 39% down to 25. Corporate taxes down to 25 from 35. He wants to slash spending on education in poor areas, when more than 1 child out of 5 in the US lives in poverty. Let states decide what to do with Medicaid money. Reduce medicare benefits. He has been fighting actively against improvements to minimum wage laws, with zero regards for inflation.
Paul Ryan's proposed budget was so toxic that even the standard-bearer republican didn't want any part of it.
By reilo Go To PostSo you're saying even their best tasting item still tastes like shit and gives you a feeling of regret the moment you picked it?
Yes, exactly. This after taking an hour to decide because I've been given almost every option I can think of.
By Gabyskra Go To PostPaul Ryan is not a moderate either. He wants to reduce the top tax bracket from 39% down to 25. Corporate taxes down to 25 from 35. He wants to slash spending on education in poor areas, when more than 1 child out of 5 in the US lives in poverty. Let states decide what to do with Medicaid money. Reduce medicare benefits. He has been fighting actively against improvements to minimum wage laws, with zero regards for inflation.
Yup. Fuck Paul Ryan.
And now he's third in line for the White House. The party is such a cluster fuck it's hard to even imagine where they'll go next.
The only positive for them is that the Trump sideshow is the perfect distraction from actually getting any worthwhile work done.
The only positive for them is that the Trump sideshow is the perfect distraction from actually getting any worthwhile work done.
I wonder if "Make Christmas White Again: Stop climate change." signs to help climate change protests are brilliant or if they will get me maced and for good reason.
Cruz praised Reagan for bombing Libya to the point where Gaddafi’s one-year old adopted daughter was killed so that's where we're at right now.
thought the right would have learned after the last cycle that their only hope was honing a moderate candidate with a history of bipartisanship
they've gone the complete opposite direction
they've gone the complete opposite direction
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postthought the right would have learned after the last cycle that their only hope was honing a moderate candidate with a history of bipartisanship
they've gone the complete opposite direction
They started (when i say they, I mean right wing radio) going with the "Romney wasn't conservative enough to rally the voting base" almost imidiately after 2012. Establishment politicians were trying to get the party to become more inclusive, they were just drowned out. One of the reasons a Ted Cruz nomination and loss to Hilary is seen as a good thing is because that scapegoat will be really hard to fall back on.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI wonder if "Make Christmas White Again: Stop climate change." signs to help climate change protests are brilliant or if they will get me maced and for good reason.Probably just inaccurate? Also, I hate that this is even considered a political topic.
Hillary with a good Buzzfeed style quiz:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/who-said-it-donald-trump-or-not-donald-trump/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=20151209feed-trumpquiz
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/who-said-it-donald-trump-or-not-donald-trump/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=tw&utm_campaign=20151209feed-trumpquiz
By Kareem Abdul-JabbarI’m not talking about ISIS. I’m talking about Donald Trump.
This is not hyperbole. Not a metaphor. Webster defines terrorism as “the use of violent acts to frighten the people in an area as a way of trying to achieve a political goal; the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.”
If violence can be an abstraction — and it can; that’s what a threat is — the Trump campaign meets this definition. Thus, Trump is ISIS’s greatest triumph: the perfect Manchurian Candidate who, instead of offering specific and realistic policies, preys on the fears of the public, doing ISIS’s job for them. Even fellow Republican Jeb Bush acknowledged Trump’s goal is “to manipulate people’s angst and fears.”
While Trump is not slaughtering innocent people, he is exploiting such acts of violence to create terror here to coerce support. As I have written before, his acts could be interpreted as hate crimes. He sounds the shrill alarm of impending doomsday even though since 9/11, about 30 Americans a year have been killed in terrorist attacks worldwide — as The Atlantic pointed out, “roughly the same number as are crushed to death each year by collapsing furniture.” Trump’s irresponsible, inflammatory rhetoric and deliberate propagation of misinformation have created a frightened and hostile atmosphere that could embolden people to violence. He’s the swaggering guy in old Westerns buying drinks for everyone in the saloon while whipping them up for a lynching.
The same process works for Trump’s supporters. They are impervious to facts or truth because their (understandable) frustration and anger at partisan greed and incompetence have fatigued them out of critical thinking. Like deranged newscaster Howard Beale in Network, they are mad as hell and they aren’t going to take it anymore. To express their outrage, they have rallied around a so-called “outsider” with no political experience, no detailed policies, and whacky ideas that subvert the very Constitution that he would be required to swear to uphold. Electing him would be like asking the clown at a child’s birthday party to start juggling chainsaws.http://time.com/4143003/kareem-abdul-jabbar-donald-trump-isis/
Fox Business host Lou Dobbs took issue with the zombies in an Ohio nativity scene because he said it mocked Christianity instead of Islam.
Jasen Dixon, the manager of a local haunted house, riled up officials in the Sycamore Township second year in a row this month with his zombie nativity scene. Officials have said that he could be fined up to $500 a day if he refuses to take it down.
“This is appalling,” Dobbs complained on Thursday’s show. “The creator of this obscenity, Jasen Dixon, insists that the display in his front yard is not anti-Christian. It would be interesting to see if he had the guts to be anti-Muslim.”
Dobbs later told his panel that the nativity scene was “insensitive.”
“And I think if you’re going to mock a religion, I’m thinking they should have chosen the Islamic religion,” the Fox Business host opined. “Wouldn’t that have been, somewhat, a display of courage?”
PC Police out of control tbh;
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/foxs-lou-dobbs-lashes-out-at-zombie-nativity-if-youre-going-to-mock-a-religion-choose-islam/
Zombie Nativity scene seems pretty badass. Would go well with a nightmare before christmas themed yard.
Someone sent fake anthrax and death threats to CAIR so things are going well:
http://www.businessinsider.com/office-of-muslim-advocacy-group-evacuated-after-white-powder-and-threatening-note-received-in-mail-2015-12
http://www.businessinsider.com/office-of-muslim-advocacy-group-evacuated-after-white-powder-and-threatening-note-received-in-mail-2015-12
By IWMTB19 Go To PostSomeone sent fake anthrax and death threats to CAIR so things are going well:CAIR of Oklahoma is on my Xmas donation list.
http://www.businessinsider.com/office-of-muslim-advocacy-group-evacuated-after-white-powder-and-threatening-note-received-in-mail-2015-12
Sounds like they need all the support they can get.
I mean ... WOW. lol
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html
The ramification of something like this could be huge.
Responses from Freerepublic:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3370974/posts
Couple thoughts:
- It would ensure a dem win for the POTUS if they do this and force trump 3rd party.
- Trump getting the GOP nom would also ensure a dem POTUS so maybe they're thinking this would benefit them down ticket
- Based on those freeper responses the anti-establishment base will fucking revolt if the party does this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html
The ramification of something like this could be huge.
Responses from Freerepublic:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3370974/posts
Couple thoughts:
- It would ensure a dem win for the POTUS if they do this and force trump 3rd party.
- Trump getting the GOP nom would also ensure a dem POTUS so maybe they're thinking this would benefit them down ticket
- Based on those freeper responses the anti-establishment base will fucking revolt if the party does this.
When a dude cancels on an order due to your guys being late, the only reasonable escalation is calling for genocide and his deportation:
http://dcist.com/2015/12/_all_aaditya_shah_wanted.php
http://dcist.com/2015/12/_all_aaditya_shah_wanted.php
White supremacist firebombs a mosque with five people in it. Thankfully no one was hurt and the terrorist is arrested.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b71de58d15d54ca29f9d6ee00ffe5c9c/authorities-detain-person-interest-mosque-arson-fire
Terrorist was a /pol/ poster who likes Trump apparently:
https://www.facebook.com/rushisthe?fref=ts
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/b71de58d15d54ca29f9d6ee00ffe5c9c/authorities-detain-person-interest-mosque-arson-fire
Terrorist was a /pol/ poster who likes Trump apparently:
https://www.facebook.com/rushisthe?fref=ts
Ted Cruz forwarded an ad from Scott Walker begging for money to pay off his massive campaign debt, jesus fuck. Scott Walker has a combination of shamelessness and stupidity that is rare:
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/676242100246044674
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/676242100246044674