NBA 2019 Offseason Thread | Greatest Clownshow On Earth

By masud Go To PostDead serious. What's the problem?

To start... you want the Knicks to treadmill on expiring contracts again? After all the years the Knicks did that and struck out why bother? The Knicks could actually spend responsibly and still put out a decent rebuilding product out there, however that depends on a few things:

a) Would you max Jimmy Butler?
b) Do you view any Knick PG as worth keeping around? (Trier doesn't count)
c) Do you feel the Knicks should go after Durant now or in 2020?
d) How perpetually drunk can the staff get Dolan so he doesn't interfere with shit?

By blackace Go To Postdoubt it happens

It's the perfect story arc. I'm rooting for them.

By The Frankman Go To PostTo start… you want the Knicks to treadmill on expiring contracts again? After all the years the Knicks did that and struck out why bother? The Knicks could actually spend responsibly and still put out a decent rebuilding product out there, however that depends on a few things:

It's not about the expiring contracts. I'm trying to get assets for giving teams cap relief this summer, I think thats the best way to spend that 70 million at this point. Fuck next summer, should be in talent acquisition mode, I'm totally down to take on longer contracts (for the right price).

By The Frankman Go To Posta) Would you max Jimmy Butler?
If we get Kahwhi sure. But were not getting Kawhi so no.
b) Do you view any Knick PG as worth keeping around? (Trier doesn't count)
They're all trash, Kadeem the best one. We should move Frank on draft night and DSJ has next season to show me something.
c) Do you feel the Knicks should go after Durant now or in 2020?
Kevin Durant should heroically lead the Warriors to the 2021 title.
d) How perpetually drunk can the staff get Dolan so he doesn't interfere with shit?
Interfere with us signing KD? I hope he does.

By masud Go To PostIt's the perfect story arc. I'm rooting for them.

They got a new arena I doubt they fell they can tank a year

I mean they should pay up especially KD but 🤷🏾‍♂️

Someone might want to copy-paste this in the OP, did some editing to HoopsHype's Top 30 NBA Free Agents


1. Kevin Durant (torn Achilles, out for 2019-2020?)
Player Option / Small Forward / 6-9 / Team: Golden State Warriors
26.0 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 5.9 apg

2. Kawhi Leonard
Player Option / Small Forward / 6-7 / Team: Toronto Raptors
26.6 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.8 spg

3. Kyrie Irving
Player Option / Point Guard / 6-3 / Team: Boston Celtics
23.8 ppg, 6.9 apg, 40.1 3P%

4. Kemba Walker
Unrestricted / Point Guard / 6-1 / Team: Charlotte Hornets
25.6 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 5.9 apg

5. Klay Thompson (torn ACL in left knee, out until 2020)
Unrestricted / Shooting Guard / 6-7 / Team: Golden State Warriors
21.5 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 40.2 3P%

6. Jimmy Butler
Player Option / Shooting Guard / 6-7 / Team: Philadelphia 76ers
18.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 1.9 spg

7. D’Angelo Russell
Restricted / Point Guard / 6-5 / Team: Brooklyn Nets
21.1 ppg, 7.0 apg, 36.9 3P%

8. Tobias Harris
Unrestricted / Power Forward / 6-9 / Team: Philadelphia 76ers
20.0 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 39.7 3P%

9. Kristaps Porzingis
Restricted / Power Forward / 7-3 / Team: Dallas Mavericks

10. Khris Middleton
Player Option / Small Forward / 6-8 / Team: Milwaukee Bucks
18.3 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 4.3 apg

11. Nikola Vucevic
Unrestricted / Center / 7-0 / Team: Orlando Magic
20.8 ppg, 12.0 rpg, 3.8 apg

12. DeMarcus Cousins
Unrestricted / Center / 6-11 / Team: Golden State Warriors
16.3 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.5 bpg

13. Julius Randle
Player Option / Power Forward / 6-9 / Team: New Orleans Pelicans
21.4 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 3.1 apg

14. Al Horford
Player Option / Center / 6-10 / Team: Boston Celtics
13.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 4.2 apg

15. Marc Gasol
Player Option / Center / 7-1 / Team: Toronto Raptors
13.6 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 4.4 apg

16. Bojan Bogdanovic
Unrestricted / Small Forward / 6-8 / Team: Indiana Pacers
18.0 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 42.5 3P%

17. Brook Lopez
Unrestricted / Center / 7-0 / Team: Milwaukee Bucks
12.5 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 36.5 3P%

18. DeAndre Jordan
Unrestricted / Center / 6-11 / Team: New York Knicks
11.0 ppg, 13.1 rpg, 64.1 FG%

19. Malcolm Brogdon
Restricted / Point Guard / 6-5 / Team: Milwaukee Bucks
15.6 ppg, 3.2 apg, 42.6 3P%

20. Nikola Mirotic
Unrestricted / Power Forward / 6-10 / Team: Milwaukee Bucks
15.2 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 36.5 3P%

21. Paul Millsap
Team Option / Power Forward / 6-8 / Team: Denver Nuggets
12.6 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 1.2 spg

22. Goran Dragic (opted in)
Player Option / Point Guard / 6-3 / Team: Miami Heat
13.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 4.8 apg

23. Danny Green
Unrestricted / Shooting Guard / 6-6 / Team: Toronto Raptors
10.3 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 45.5 3P%

24. JJ Redick
Unrestricted / Shooting Guard / 6-4 / Team: Philadelphia 76ers
18.1 ppg, 2.7 apg, 39.7 3P%

25. Harrison Barnes
Player Option / Small Forward / 6-8 / Team: Sacramento Kings
16.4 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 39.5 3P%

26. Marcus Morris
Unrestricted / Power Forward / 6-9 / Team: Boston Celtics
13.9 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 37.5 3PT%

27. Thaddeus Young
Unrestricted / Power Forward / 6-8 / Team: Indiana Pacers
12.6 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.5 spg

28. Rudy Gay
Unrestricted / Small Forward / 6-8 / Team: San Antonio Spurs
13.7 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 40.2 3P%

29. Ricky Rubio
Unrestricted / Point Guard / 6-4 / Team: Utah Jazz
12.7 ppg, 6.1 apg, 1.3 spg

30. Derrick Rose
Unrestricted / Point Guard / 6-3 / Team: Minnesota Timberwolves
18.0 ppg, 4.3 apg, 37.0 3P%

the real winner in this is Jimmy Butler

I would say that even if Kawhi's agents about-face and want him to stay in Toronto, it's at least certain he'll opt-out and have Toronto do a long-term deal.

By blackace Go To Postthe real winner in this is Jimmy Butler

... fuck yeah, he's the only healthy guy ranking in the Top 6 who doesn't seem to have a set preference for where he goes outside of Kemba and he's Mr. Supermax.

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yeah been known lol

By blackace Go To Postyeah been known lol

I've been researching FA stuff on three sites and old Twitter pages. Truly Rotoworld has let me down.

KD and Klay are out next season

Dubs getting a lottery pick next year?

By The Frankman Go To PostSomeone might want to copy-paste this in the OP, did some editing to HoopsHype's Top 30 NBA Free Agents…

done

By blackace Go To Postthe real winner in this is Jimmy Butler

True. 2 guys in a similar position are now out for a year.

By Dark PhaZe Go To PostDubs getting a lottery pick next year?

If they assed into the #1 t hat'd be sutn.

i disagree with a lot of that top free agent list

By blackace Go To PostKD and Klay are out next season

Klay should be back some time next spring unless hes built like Kristaps Porzingis.

By masud Go To PostKlay should be back some time next spring unless hes built like Kristaps Porzingis.

About 7 to 9 months recovery time. But can be longer

can be shorter too though.. I think Lowry did it in 4 months

I have no idea what the factors are in that though

By diehard Go To Postcan be shorter too though.. I think Lowry did it in 4 months

I have no idea what the factors are in that though

severity of the injury... sounded kinda bleak tho

By blackace Go To PostAbout 7 to 9 months recovery time. But can be longer

Tends to be shorter these days. it's changed a lot over the last 5 years.

about 6 months is common for athletes.

By giririsss Go To PostTends to be shorter these days. it's changed a lot over the last 5 years.

about 6 months is common for athletes.

really hasn't

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/04/the-impact-of-a-torn-acl-on-an-nba-player.html

http://blog.fb-ninja.com/acl-tears/

Parker

Jabari Parker (2014, 2017) - Parker tore his left ACL during his rookie season and was sidelined for 10 months. He then suffered the same injury in 2017 and just returned last week after a year on the sidelines.

LaVine

At the Sept. 25 media day, LaVine said doctors told him nine months is the safe estimate to be cleared for contact. LaVine suffered the injury while playing for the Timberwolves on Feb. 3. The Bulls have said they will proceed conservatively with the centerpiece of the Jimmy Butler trade.

By The Frankman Go To PostFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1139404947940765698

I'd rather the Nets throw money at T Harris and dangle a few years at Boogie than sign Kyrie tbh.

Knicks breaking out the plans again

Someone please come get Conley now.

Ay yo, SAS just said that KD's own doctor (separate from the team doctors) had cleared him to come back and play in GM5. I'm sorry, but what? Fire that motherfucker and sue the shit out of him and make that your supermax contract.

"Cleared to play" is such a wonderfully ambiguous phrase.

By unknown Go To Posttraitor lol.

By Branduil Go To Post"Cleared to play" is such a wonderfully ambiguous phrase.

Ok, but the context surrounding "cleared to play," especially in this specific case, is not ambiguous at all.

Aren't we still waiting on the receipts on whether or not the initial injury was deliberately misrepresented as a calf injury in the first place?

ACL

achilles

bob myers crying

the dynasty is over, warriiors fans can finally come home and support the lost Angeles clown show

By rvy Go To PostACL

achilles

bob myers crying

the dynasty is over, warriiors fans can finally come home and support the lost Angeles clown show

And let us not forget, this is how they're leaving Oakland, too.

By Magic Johnson Go To PostAnd let us not forget, this is how they're leaving Oakland, too.

we need to have an emergency meeting on how we're gonna handle losing kawhi to the clippys

By rvy Go To Postwe need to have an emergency meeting on how we're gonna handle losing kawhi to the clippys

I think Kawhi has too much self-respect for himself to go to the Clippers. We will see, however.

our only hope is bron and kobe recruiting him

maybe new balance will give him a better contract if he signs



edit: cris carter saying he's gonna be a clippy

it's over

By rvy Go To Postedit: cris carter saying he's gonna be a clippy

it's over

You mean Draymond wasn't immediately on the phone with Kawhi after the final buzzer?

Kawhi is absolutely staying now that we are champions. Dude has spoken many times about how the medical staff takes care of him and I think that means a lot to him after the Spurs situation, combined with the fact we have the chance to build on this win.

By Perfect Blue Go To PostKawhi is absolutely staying now that we are champions. Dude has spoken many times about how the medical staff takes care of him and I think that means a lot to him after the Spurs situation, combined with the fact we have the chance to build on this win.

Yeah, I think Kawhi should definitely stay with you guys, especially if he intends on staying with New Balance.

No one can be a better co-ambassador of New Balance with him than Drake.

are we doing a mock draft this year?

I have been slacking so I need to know who everyone hates and hope they won't draft

By knux-future Go To Postare we doing a mock draft this year?

I have been slacking so I need to know who everyone hates and hope they won't draft

mocking is what slaent does best

also, this is a two or three person draft (depending on who you ask) and everyone else would be in the teens or later in a normal draft class

I think from like 6 on, it's really just late first talent until the mid-early second round

bunch of role players in this draft. not a lot of star potential guys

By knux-future Go To Postbunch of role players in this draft. not a lot of star potential guys

If you're not gambling this draft then you're fukkin up tbh

By Kibner Go To Postalso, this is a two or three person draft (depending on who you ask) and everyone else would be in the teens or later in a normal draft class

I feel like because of that and last night it is going to be a pretty busy night with lot of trades

By DY_nasty Go To PostIf you're not gambling this draft then you're fukkin up tbh

The Bol Bol draft

Damn I just realized that skeeeup calls kawhi no2 because he means kawhi is shit

😔

Kawhi was only leaving if they didn’t make the finals
He’s doing a 1 and 1 contract though
He should definitely get that free food thing in writing before resigning and it’ll include his entire family

That's another thing. Supermax vs 1+1

taken from LG

SAS has Windhorst on his show, from what they've heard sounds like Kawhi is really serious about going back to LA. They think it really is between Raptors vs Clippers. They did say that if the Lakers want a shot at Kawhi, they should still get a meeting but they should only send 3 people, not the whole 9 people congregation of Jeanie, Rob, Kurt, Linda, Tim, etc. They said that stability in an organization is important to Kawhi which is why he prefers Clippers over Lakers.