http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26765457/wizards-meet-nuggets-connelly
Denver Nuggets president of basketball operations Tim Connelly will meet with the Washington Wizards to discuss the franchise's president of basketball operations job, league sources told ESPN.This would actually be a great hire? There's hope for faze yet.
Connelly, a primary target of the Wizards' search, is expected to meet with Washington as soon as Friday, league sources said.
So the Lakers' basic guideline to the offseason is (not mutually exclusive or dependent on the other):
1. Try to trade for Anthony Davis using a combination of Ball, Ingram, and the #4 pick to get Anthony Davis.
2. Try to sign Durant/Kawhi/Kyrie/Kemba/Butler
If 1 fails, then the #4 pick will be weird. Because they may want to keep the #4 pick if they sign another max guy, but if they fail in FA with all five of the potential dudes, then I'm not sure what they'll want to do trade wise regarding the #4 pick. So I guess the Lakers have to pick the player viewed as BPA by the rest of the league.
Not sure who their trade targets would be for a combo of #4 plus some of their young players.
1. Try to trade for Anthony Davis using a combination of Ball, Ingram, and the #4 pick to get Anthony Davis.
2. Try to sign Durant/Kawhi/Kyrie/Kemba/Butler
If 1 fails, then the #4 pick will be weird. Because they may want to keep the #4 pick if they sign another max guy, but if they fail in FA with all five of the potential dudes, then I'm not sure what they'll want to do trade wise regarding the #4 pick. So I guess the Lakers have to pick the player viewed as BPA by the rest of the league.
Not sure who their trade targets would be for a combo of #4 plus some of their young players.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostNot sure who their trade targets would be for a combo of #4 plus some of their young players.
If I keep attaching him to everyone thinking of trades at some point it will work
I think #1 needs to include Kuzma as BI and Ball both have injury issues. I'm ready to fail at both 1 and 2, for Rambis to trade LeBron and for us to waste our #4 pick on potential that's never reached
By JJJasper Go To Post
If I keep attaching him to everyone thinking of trades at some point it will work
The other weird thing about the Lakers is if they add a multiyear max guy to their roster, they can't sign Anthony Davis in 2020.
But if they go into 2020 with LeBron, four ehhh young players, and a bunch of one year deals, then they're throwing away the last year of LeBron as a star.
By JJJasper Go To Post
If I keep attaching him to everyone thinking of trades at some point it will work
Ball straight up.
By JJJasper Go To PostKanadian KobeIndeed
I'll be very curious what Anthony Davis does if the Lakers, Knicks, and Clippers use up their 2020 cap space.
Because those are the only three teams he said he wanted to play for.
And then he couldn't sign with any of them.
In terms of potential offers, the Lakers can put together:
Ingram, Ball, Culver/Hunter, Kuzma for AD.
The Knicks can do:
RJ Barrett, Robinson, uhhhh Knox? for AD.
Ingram's trade value is very weird right now as he's coming off a blood clot, he's a free agent soon, and he's both shown potential and has never been good in a full season. He's one of those guys that could either.
A): Just never become good
B): Never become very good but show enough flashes to trick a team into the max.
C): Actually becomes good
Lonzo has been a terrible scorer and can't stay healthy so I think his trade value is just low. Kuzma and Culver/Hunter have fine trade value.
Barrett is the highest value prospect out of these guys, but Knox was horrible and I'm not sure what Robinson's trade value is right now.
Curious to see which teams AD would ask to be traded to if the Lakers and Knicks use their cap space though.
Because those are the only three teams he said he wanted to play for.
And then he couldn't sign with any of them.
In terms of potential offers, the Lakers can put together:
Ingram, Ball, Culver/Hunter, Kuzma for AD.
The Knicks can do:
RJ Barrett, Robinson, uhhhh Knox? for AD.
Ingram's trade value is very weird right now as he's coming off a blood clot, he's a free agent soon, and he's both shown potential and has never been good in a full season. He's one of those guys that could either.
A): Just never become good
B): Never become very good but show enough flashes to trick a team into the max.
C): Actually becomes good
Lonzo has been a terrible scorer and can't stay healthy so I think his trade value is just low. Kuzma and Culver/Hunter have fine trade value.
Barrett is the highest value prospect out of these guys, but Knox was horrible and I'm not sure what Robinson's trade value is right now.
Curious to see which teams AD would ask to be traded to if the Lakers and Knicks use their cap space though.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostI'll be very curious what Anthony Davis does if the Lakers, Knicks, and Clippers use up their 2020 cap space.This is what sign and trades are for. Or the team he wants to sign with will trade away players for air like the Heat did in 2010.
Because those are the only three teams he said he wanted to play for.
By rodeoclown Go To PostThis is what sign and trades are for. Or the team he wants to sign with will trade away players for air like the Heat did in 2010.
The Knicks and Lakers would make trading away players for air very weird though.
Like, let's say the Knicks somehow pull it off and sign Kyrie and Durant.
... Not trading away Kyrie for air one year after signing him.
Same idea if the Lakers sign Kyrie. Becomes more questionable if the Lakers sign Butler or Kemba as maybe they trade those guys away for air to sign AD.
By rodeoclown Go To PostThis is what sign and trades are for. Or the team he wants to sign with will trade away players for air like the Heat did in 2010.What were the changes to Sign and Trade made in the last CBA? Because I can't recall a single one happening since they were implemented.
By JJJasper Go To PostKanadian KobeSurvey would had accepted Canadian Iverson as well
By Kibner Go To PostWhat were the changes to Sign and Trade made in the last CBA? Because I can't recall a single one happening since they were implemented.
Cna't trade a recently signed player until the December trade line period I believe.
The Lakers are *technically* in a good spot because they have assets and a high draft pick. However, when you have Pelinka, Rambii, and Jeanie running the show there is no reason to have confidence in them doing the right thing or making the right moves.
This offseason can either go well or very, very terribly. There is no in between and I'm terrified.
This offseason can either go well or very, very terribly. There is no in between and I'm terrified.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostSo the Lakers' basic guideline to the offseason is (not mutually exclusive or dependent on the other):Jackie MacMullan of ESPN:
1. Try to trade for Anthony Davis using a combination of Ball, Ingram, and the #4 pick to get Anthony Davis.
2. Try to sign Durant/Kawhi/Kyrie/Kemba/Butler
If 1 fails, then the #4 pick will be weird. Because they may want to keep the #4 pick if they sign another max guy, but if they fail in FA with all five of the potential dudes, then I'm not sure what they'll want to do trade wise regarding the #4 pick. So I guess the Lakers have to pick the player viewed as BPA by the rest of the league.
Not sure who their trade targets would be for a combo of #4 plus some of their young players.
We have been told, I think, through channels – most of us have heard this same scuttlebutt – that Gayle Benson has basically told him, “To the Lakers, over my dead body.”
Worth noting...
By Jonm Go To PostJackie MacMullan of ESPN:Not really:
We have been told, I think, through channels – most of us have heard this same scuttlebutt – that Gayle Benson has basically told him, “To the Lakers, over my dead body.”
Worth noting…
By Kibner Go To PostNot really:I like Mason, no real indication he has any insight into Gayle's inner circle.
On the other hand, Windhorst, whom's radio show and those comments came from, is in with Rich Paul and Clutch. Seems more than reasonable they have heard from that side what the Pelicans posture is.
Certainly could be a smoke screen, but no reason to dismiss it.
Not to mention, The Lakers just don't have the better set of assets. So if the choice is Boston, NY, and LA, I don't know any non-Laker homers that think they have the best hand.
So it's sort of silly to get so caught up on them imo.
So it's sort of silly to get so caught up on them imo.
LA's hand is better than the Knicks. or at least equal.
Like I like to trash on Ball and Ingram but they are better than Smith and Knox IMO. RJ probably is the difference maker because it would make Zion happy tho.
As for Boston; until I see Ainge actually offer something of value, I don't think they are in the running. Dude loves to win trades at all cost and w/ Kyrie probably dipping, offering Tatum for one year of AD seems stupid.
Like I like to trash on Ball and Ingram but they are better than Smith and Knox IMO. RJ probably is the difference maker because it would make Zion happy tho.
As for Boston; until I see Ainge actually offer something of value, I don't think they are in the running. Dude loves to win trades at all cost and w/ Kyrie probably dipping, offering Tatum for one year of AD seems stupid.
By knux-future Go To PostLA's hand is better than the Knicks. or at least equal.
Like I like to trash on Ball and Ingram but they are better than Smith and Knox IMO. RJ probably is the difference maker because it would make Zion happy tho.
As for Boston; until I see Ainge actually offer something of value, I don't think they are in the running. Dude loves to win trades at all cost and w/ Kyrie probably dipping, offering Tatum for one year of AD seems stupid.
This ... NY and LA are pretty even in potential offerings and Boston's offerings are unknown and could be affected by Kyrie bouncing. If the Lakers want to make it happen it will have to be Kuz / Ball / Ingram and the #4.
There is also the whole thing where Griffin wouldn't accept the job if he wasn't given the autonomy and control to handle roster decisions however he wanted.
There is no way the Knicks have a better hand than LA. Bostons players are massively overrated as we saw this year but they are still worth more around the league.
If Kyrie bolts there is no way Ainge offers Tatum without Kyrie. Even then is Kyrie + AD enough to do damage in the playoffs? You have to figure Rozier (FA) and Brown (most likely part of the trade) will be gone as well.
I can really see the Clippers making an offer, but I'm not sure what their draft/pick situation is looking like. They have a lot of movable pieces though. Shai/Shamet/Harrell/Gallo + a pick or two would probably get it done. Add that with another max slot available? They can make a good team.
If Kyrie bolts there is no way Ainge offers Tatum without Kyrie. Even then is Kyrie + AD enough to do damage in the playoffs? You have to figure Rozier (FA) and Brown (most likely part of the trade) will be gone as well.
I can really see the Clippers making an offer, but I'm not sure what their draft/pick situation is looking like. They have a lot of movable pieces though. Shai/Shamet/Harrell/Gallo + a pick or two would probably get it done. Add that with another max slot available? They can make a good team.
RJ Barret may possibly one day be better than Ingram, but the Pels wouldn't have to pay nearly as much to see if that becomes true. Ingram being so close to the end of his rookie contract with so many important questions left unanswered is why his trade value is relatively low.
RJ actually reminds me a lot of Ingram, in terms of skillset. I agree with you regarding Ingram though. Health concerns + lack of outside shooting are his biggest question marks. Who knows if he ever learns to shoot the 3 consistently. I still think there are GM's who will see his age + potential and take a chance (not on a max though).
For the record I don't think the Lakers are getting AD so I'm not even arguing in terms of a potential Lakers package.
For the record I don't think the Lakers are getting AD so I'm not even arguing in terms of a potential Lakers package.
Yeah, I'm just pointing out one of the reasons someone could think the NYK potential package is better than the Lakers.
Also, I just don't like Kuzma. Relatively old so he's already close to maxing out, shows nothing on defense, and his offense is nowhere close to making up for it.
My dislike for Lonzo should also be pretty well known by now.
Also, I just don't like Kuzma. Relatively old so he's already close to maxing out, shows nothing on defense, and his offense is nowhere close to making up for it.
My dislike for Lonzo should also be pretty well known by now.
By Kibner Go To PostYeah, I'm just pointing out one of the reasons someone could think the NYK potential package is better than the Lakers.This is sort of what I was getting at, the Lakers assets are really not that great in context.
Also, I just don't like Kuzma. Relatively old so he's already close to maxing out, shows nothing on defense, and his offense is nowhere close to making up for it.
My dislike for Lonzo should also be pretty well known by now.
The points about the Celtics are good ones though.
As is I would take the Knicks, with their trove of first rounders that can be used down the line and the third pick, over the fourth pick and a bunch of questionable young players that all have a lot of negatives and don't really fit well to begin with.
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostWhat do the Bensons and Dan Gilbert even have in common? I never seen two teams be more coddled.Griffin
Mackel I have zero trust in, but if Dunlap thinks it's true, fair enough. Still don't have high confidence in the Pels trading with the Lakers on the merits of their assets.
By HasphatsAnts Go To Post
lol morey's gotta be itching to get outta there
lol
the only way AD comes to the Lakers if he specifically says he'll only re-up with the Lakers only.
werent there reports he wants to go to the knicks too?
Also, reports swirling Lakers are gonna go after Bradley Beal.
werent there reports he wants to go to the knicks too?
Also, reports swirling Lakers are gonna go after Bradley Beal.
By Kabro Go To Postthe only way AD comes to the Lakers if he specifically says he'll only re-up with the Lakers only.AD wants to go to <city> that will let him get all the sponsorships he can handle without him actually needing to show personality or put in effort.
werent there reports he wants to go to the knicks too?
Also, reports swirling Lakers are gonna go after Bradley Beal.
By Kibner Go To PostAD wants to go to <city> that will let him get all the sponsorships he can handle without him actually needing to show personality or put in effort.
Hey well he sounds perfect for the Lakers then cuz LeBron and Kyrie can definitely carry him to victory
Some more context
lol billionaire stuntin aight
“Last year (getting under the luxury tax) was a fluke,” Fertitta said. “We were going to be in the (tax). It was an accident. I’m still trying to figure out how we got under. I was positive we were going to be in it by $11 million. But if I’m in the luxury tax, I expect us to win.
“I just want to win. I’m not going to be in the luxury tax and not be one of the top four or five teams in the NBA.”
In that sense, Fertitta considered the question about paying a tax irrelevant, considering it good business with returns that can exceed costs.
“I’m not going to let a few million dollars (determine decisions),” Fertitta said. “Going to that seventh game, even though it would have been there, we’d probably still make a million and a half because we get part of their gate. If we go to the Western Conference finals, it’s worth $10 to $15 million to us. I’m not worried about the luxury tax. And that’s not just $10 million; it’s the next year’s ticket renewals, the sponsorships, everything. If you are in the luxury tax and you’re winning, you’re going to be a more profitable team.”
He was more perturbed by a report from a SiriusXM NBA radio host during the season that he was “feverishly cutting costs” throughout the Rockets organization. He had called that report baseless at the time and went further this week.
“That’s the stupidest thing I ever heard,” Fertitta said. “I spend more money on little things than anybody else. I just bought us a brand-new 767 that we’re re-fitting right now. Everybody else just rents planes. I want our players on our plane. And it’s not a 757; it’s a 767.
“I want us to be tough,” Fertitta said. “I never want to be soft. I don’t like soft ownership and I don’t like soft teams. That’s not my culture. I do want my players scrambling for a loose ball. I’ll set a hard pick in business. I’ll scramble on the floor for a ball in business. I expect them to do it on the court. I’m not saying they don’t. I have a very hard-playing team. But we’re never going to be soft.
“I know we have a team good enough to win 55 games, but that’s not good enough. We need to have a team we know we’ll get to the Western Conference finals. Then, you need a little luck to win a championship. We will do whatever it takes this offseason to improve ourselves.”
lol billionaire stuntin aight
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostIs it possible Lakers can sign Terry Rozier before Fertitta doeseverything is possible with the lakers now
except making good trades or signing good players
By Omzz Go To PostGot kicked to china
Not famous enough for North Korea fortunately
By JJJasper Go To Postlol not surprised after some of the rumors that were going around here last year.like what?
By knux-future Go To PostLA's hand is better than the Knicks. or at least equal.That's not the lakers package. Not really.
Like I like to trash on Ball and Ingram but they are better than Smith and Knox IMO. RJ probably is the difference maker because it would make Zion happy tho.
As for Boston; until I see Ainge actually offer something of value, I don't think they are in the running. Dude loves to win trades at all cost and w/ Kyrie probably dipping, offering Tatum for one year of AD seems stupid.
Ball has been constantly injured. And While people were talking themselves into BI's "potential" etc, the blood clots have killed his trade value. No one, particularly anyone in NOLA, wants to be the one who traded AD for BI, who retired that season due to blood clots.
So the Lakers package is Kuzma and the #4. Not, BI, Ball, Kuzma, and the #4.
Bostons season has gone sour, and it could change what direction they go in.
Don't think the knicks really have anything to offer except the #3 pick.
But that's just the teams that were in it at the trade deadline. I really think it's now open to everyone.
By Omzz Go To Post
Got kicked to china
What