THE Personal Computer Thread 2023

mines a x570 gig0rbyte too. worried it'll shit the bed after his did lol

Still rocking my Asrock Fatal1ty mobo 😎

ASRock B350 Pro4 board that I sold to a friend with a R5 1600 is still going strong. So’s my ASRock Z390 ITX board.


They make some good and terrible boards though. Kinda gotta watch what you go for with them.

Iirc, they also make weird stuff, like itx thread ripper.

By Kibner Go To PostIirc, they also make weird stuff, like itx thread ripper.

Yeah, that was a basically server board. They’ve done ITX X299 (the only one), mATX Threadripper, STX AM4 boards. All up in the weird shit.

By HonestVapes Go To PostYeah, that was a basically server board. They’ve done ITX X299 (the only one), mATX Threadripper, STX AM4 boards. All up in the weird shit.

The mobo company we all need to push things forward.

By Kibner Go To PostThe mobo company we all need to push things forward.

They’ve not done much noteworthy lately though, besides the X570 ITX AM4 board with Intel heatsink mounting holes.
Which was a neat idea since there is/was far more low profile Intel compatible heatsinks than AM4 compatible ones. The rest of the board’s layout was trash though.

I wish DFI hadn't gone under... they used to make awesome boards back in the Athlon 64 heyday.

Just saw the RTX4XXX cards aren't going to be around until end of 2022 / early 2023. What's the move kids?

By Laboured Go To PostJust saw the RTX4XXX cards aren't going to be around until end of 2022 / early 2023. What's the move kids?

Either wait it out or sell your 2080ti and buy a 3090.

Join the thirsty crowds waiting for the occasional Nvidia / Scan FE drop at MRSP ... or buy one somewhere else for a significant premium.

There's no move. Life is suffering.

Send me your 2xxx and/or 3xxx series cards for inspection

Finally. Been in need of a trust-worthy and diligent GPU inspector.

Do you also inspect prostates? Might as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone

By Laboured Go To PostJust saw the RTX4XXX cards aren't going to be around until end of 2022 / early 2023. What's the move kids?

who's reporting this?
will be shit if no 40xx cards next year. not expecting the full lineup but hopefully at least a 4080 or something

I was randomly browsing a local classified ads site for mini-itx / small atx cases plus other stuff and found this GPU-less Sliger SM580 build for sale.

I've looked at Sliger cases in the past primarily because they all come with an optional handle and are generally well-regarded, but always discarded them since you have to import from the US and they're not cheap to begin with. A new SM580 would cost me 350-400€.





Comes thusly equipped, did a quick search for prices of same or similarly spec'd new parts:

Sliger SM580 -> 350€
i9 10850k -> 400€
NZXT Kraken X63 280mm -> 150€
Asus ROG Strix Z490-i Gaming -> 180€
GSkill Trident Z RGB 2x 8GB DDR4 3600MHz CL16 -> 115€
CoolerMaster V850 SFX 80+ Gold -> 150€
TeamGroup 120GB M.2 PCI-E -> 35€
Toshiba 1TB 2.5" Sata 3 5400rpm -> 30€
2x BeQuiet Silent Wings 3 140 PWM -> 40€

Total: ~1450€

Selling price: 900€ (might be able to get it down to 800-850€)

My intention was and mostly still is to wait for Alder Lake / Ryzen 6000 and upgrade then, however now I'm thinking it might be fun to get a good deal on something like this to carry me until 5nm Ryzen 7000 hits in Q3 2022 / Q1 2023 ... if I'd even feel the need with a 10c/20t CPU.

Provided I (for now) keep the 1080ti and my drives, I think I can probably get 300-350€ for my current PC. So bottom line I'd be looking at spending ~500€ to upgrade from a 4-core to a 10-core CPU and downsize, which are the two things I'm primarily interested in.

I'm actually still not a 100% sure I want to go down the Vapes hole and this would be a relatively cheap way of testing the waters before going all in on a new high-end mini-ITX build and possibly regretting it.

Thoughts?

Provided I (for now) keep the 1080ti and my drives, I think I can probably get 300-350€ for my current PC. So bottom line I'd be looking at spending ~500€ to upgrade from a 4-core to a 10-core CPU and downsize, which are the two things I'm primarily interested in.

That's a no brainer deal tbh

It is indeed very tempting. Gonna give it some more thought tomorrow.

Just in terms of the parts alone like, you could harvest the CPU, RAM, Mobo and sell the bits you don’t want. Case included, and still likely turn a small profit while also upgrading.

The one thing to be aware of is that I don’t believe (from memory) that your Accelero III will fit with 25mm fans inside the SM580. It may fit with the included 3 fans but will definitely fit with slim fans (15-14mm).

My current favourite is the Jonsplus i100 Pro.

It's not the top performing or best optimized or smallest mini-ITX case, but it's very much my a e s t h e t i c , which is key, if I'm bringing the PC from below the desk (basically invisible) to where I'll be looking at it day in and out. The Sliger is more on the function over form side of things.

Good things come to those who wait.

I need it

Well that's excessive

For those with Turing or newer Nvidia gpu's, there is a potentially better version of FSR already available to you:

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15010/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-review-feat-evga/3

New to the driver version is the option to allow GPU-upscaling – with the driver upscaling any sub-native resolution to the display’s native resolution – with NVIDIA stating that Turing GPUs will also get a 5-tap filter on top of the usual bilinear upscaling.

FSR is supposedly just a 2-tap filter.

lol

By Laboured Go To Postlol

I am being corrected:

I'm fairly sure they're the same, the FSR one isn't 2-tap but two lobes, two lobes on each side is 4 taps. The fifth tap is never actually needed because the ends have zero weighting.

I have no idea what any of this lingo means.

I know what 'the' and 'The' means.

By Anya Taylor-Sad Go To PostGood things come to those who wait.

https://youtu.be/t0_VZMFBJMk

never was a fan of those type of screens.

By unknown Go To Postnever was a fan of those type of screens.

Ultra wides are ultra ugly

It's the finest product Allah has given us. And now at 240hz too.

By Wahabipapagooz Go To Post

https://youtu.be/U7BwZ7YADFY

It's the finest product Allah has given us. And now at 240hz too.

3090 FE cards have been available on Scan all day lol
imagine supplying cards people actually want

By rerixo Go To Post3090 FE cards have been available on Scan all day lol
imagine supplying cards people actually want

If that went up on payday I’d be eating smart price beans for the rest of the month tbh. Too late now :(

Thought you already had one. Soon Vapes lad.

Nah, stock and pricing issues aside. Besides getting a fucking nice 30% pay rise back in May, I’ve been low on funds lately due to my girlfriend being in and out of work and covering some of her bills month to month. Not really been in a position to buy one yet. Maybe in a couple more months, but then I’ll be more than happy to wait for the 4000 series.

When's Alder Lake and is there any reason to believe it's especially worth waiting for?

Funny to see the ultra wide discussion here, I had just clicked the thread to say I tried one

And it's magical :0

I am a #believer now

By Laboured Go To PostWhen's Alder Lake and is there any reason to believe it's especially worth waiting for?

some of this is probably true. he isn't the most reliable but i've found him ok for a rough idea of things. expected towards the end of this year, he gives the date of oct 25th for embargo lift
i'm interested in it, especially if the socket is going to last a few gens. feels like ages since intel have been interesting, but this seems like them getting back on track

Why are we still on the "Lake" naming? They completely lost the ability to name things.

I'll get a PowerPC.

By Anya Taylor-Sad Go To Post

https://youtu.be/LDB2BikDYZU

Just got it for my emulation build

By Batong Go To PostJust got it for my emulation build

Good man.

I've got an XTIA Xproto chassis laying about and I'm going to pop this bitch into it.

By Anya Taylor-Sad Go To Post

https://youtu.be/LDB2BikDYZU

that 3080 looks so dope.

By FootbalIFan Go To PostFunny to see the ultra wide discussion here, I had just clicked the thread to say I tried one

And it's magical :0

I am a #believer now

I ended up buying an ultrawide

Best purchase of all time

Incredible. No other words

Not even SenSational?

By FootbalIFan Go To PostI ended up buying an ultrawide

Best purchase of all time

Incredible. No other words

Without consulting the thread? How dare you.

Alright, which one did you get?

By Zabojnik Go To PostWithout consulting the thread? How dare you.

Alright, which one did you get?

Some random budget one. Was $800 nzd.

Mainly got it to get used to ultrawide and see if I like it as a permanent screen.

I'll buy a new one when I do a new build next year.

Finally got the pieces for my new desk in. Ordered a Jarvis sit stand desk (60" x 30"), and customized it with wheels etc.

Also bought a Corsair lapdog from a coworker. These things have been super hard to find since the pandemic started (unless you want to pay ~200-300).

Gonna have to use wireless on my PC once I build it due to the way my apartment is setup, and where they router is located 😬

And no I'm not running a 60 ft cord.