THE Personal Computer Thread 2023

Can't speak from personal experience, but my co-sufferers from the waiting for a 3080 community seem to rate them quite highly.

No retailer is gotcha-proof in these times of extreme scarcity though.

By batong_doicare Go To PostUK pundits, Vapes etc.

https://www.cclonline.com a good computer parts site? They have a case i need that's not at the usual suspects

I bought an SSD off them awhile ago, it got delivered on time. Can't complain.

Cheers mate, ordered.

ASRock is making a m.2 GPU. It will have the performance of standard iGPU's, so definitely not aimed at gamers. But, still. It's interesting. https://www.techpowerup.com/275694/asrock-rack-unveils-m-2-slot-graphics-card

By Kibner Go To PostASRock is making a m.2 GPU. It will have the performance of standard iGPU's, so definitely not aimed at gamers. But, still. It's interesting. https://www.techpowerup.com/275694/asrock-rack-unveils-m-2-slot-graphics-card

That's cool, but I'm sure I've seen a normal GPU hooked up to an M.2 slot before via an adapter cable and running 4x PCIe lanes. Some of the novelty is lost on me because of that.

By HonestVapes Go To PostThat's cool, but I'm sure I've seen a normal GPU hooked up to an M.2 slot before via an adapter cable and running 4x PCIe lanes. Some of the novelty is lost on me because of that.

Yeah, I think this is more for the very niche application of running a small number of servers that don't have iGPU but you do need that little bit of capability and don't need a much larger and more power hungry dGPU or have the money to afford something called a baseboard management controller (BMC (first I've heard of this)).

By HonestVapes Go To PostThat's cool, but I'm sure I've seen a normal GPU hooked up to an M.2 slot before via an adapter cable and running 4x PCIe lanes. Some of the novelty is lost on me because of that.

Lol, I've seen it too, but maybe that's the route I'll go if I feel I wanna get some RTX on my Renoir 4650G iGPU emulation build i'm completing.

Defeats the purpose of a low powered machine though.

2080Ti dropped off.

Pulled out my 1060 as the temp replacement. I forgot what model I had. I thought it was an ASUS Dual 1060, but it's actually a Strix model. 3 fans and all. Card is longer than the 2080ti it's replacing lol. On the plus side, my dusty secondary monitor can now run at 120hz again, the 1060 has a DVI output. I was using a DVI to DP adapter on the 2080ti, and for whatever reason it wouldn't allow the monitor to go above 60hz.

By Kibner Go To PostYeah, I think this is more for the very niche application of running a small number of servers that don't have iGPU but you do need that little bit of capability and don't need a much larger and more power hungry dGPU or have the money to afford something called a baseboard management controller (BMC (first I've heard of this)).

I can think of weird uses for server products but honestly I'm having a hard time thinking of a use for that. Even the specs are weird, why the need for a molex connector when it only draws 1.49 watts?

diehard plshelp

It's about damn time you got some custom cables, Smokey.

Uhhh just in time for Christmas?

By HonestVapes Go To PostIt's about damn time you got some custom cables, Smokey.

The plus side yes but....

By diehard Go To PostUhhh just in time for Christmas?

Pls pcpowerbro. I need a cable. I dont want to wait that long ;_;

You said Seasonic but what model?

There are some seasonic cables on ebay that looks like they ship next week but if its worth it to you to save a few days, i dont see why https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Adapter-Seasonic-Supply-25-inch/dp/B07S623681/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=seasonic+8+pin&qid=1607557578&sr=8-2 wouldn't work.

While calling it a "vedio card" is sketchy, as long as we make sure the pin outs are correct all it is is just wire.. and the reviews do seem legitimate.

Seasonic prime PX-850

Is it too late for me to ask if either of the cables that you do have have a second connector?

Oh shit


Stand by

soooooooooooooooo



i have the cable setup in the 3rd example. i could use a second connector off one of the cables...but considering how power hungry the regular 3090s are, let alone the Strix OC variant....

If you have a 1 dedicated + 1 daisy chain then you are totally fine. Those cables will handle 288w watts easily (its rated 150w per connector) so you essentially have something rated for 288w + 150w + 75w (513 watts).

Maybe keep in that cablemod order but dont hesitate to hook that thing up.

Eh, the connectors are rated at 150W. But if you daisy chain, you still have the connector at the PSU side trying to pull in 300W, which may cause issues. I wouldn't risk it, tbh.

By Kibner Go To PostEh, the connectors are rated at 150W. But if you daisy chain, you still have the connector at the PSU side trying to pull in 300W, which may cause issues. I wouldn't risk it, tbh.

That's actually OK because those connectors aren't wired to spec, hence why you can't just use any 8 pin to 8 pin connector on any power supply.

I haven't watch it in a while but I believe der8auer talks about some of that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRVSGFjKf4E I believe they use more hot leads on the power supply side.

This is supposedly directly from Seasonic but i didnt see it on their site: https://i.redd.it/qfwh3kboeyl51.png

I just know that someone on the something awful forums used one daisy chain on their 3080 and the connector on the psu side melted. It wasn't a high end seasonic psu, though.

Most likely worst case scenario would be instability over any electrical fires breaking out in your PC. Keep it at stock or even undervolt it to be on safer side until you’ve got a third dedicated cable for it,

Undervolt anyway even, it’s not like you losing anything by keeping the same clockspeed at a lower power draw.

By Kibner Go To PostI just know that someone on the something awful forums used one daisy chain on their 3080 and the connector on the psu side melted. It wasn't a high end seasonic psu, though.

Yeah, daisy chaining 2 connectors via a single cable isnt great, but GPU's that have 3 connectors support 1 dedicated + 1 daisy chain. GPU's will load balance and you won't be able to exceed the cable or power supply's rated wattage on either end.

That image is from Seasonic, It exists on their old FAQ here: https://web.archive.org/web/20170319114239/https://seasonic.com/faq/

and its all working fine?

Smokey saved by diehard again.

You know what this means.

Unless Tillman sells, Smokey is now officially a Utar fan.

diehard is now #Mostly_Wrong

had to keep that there to keep me humble. Brash Neogaf dIEHARD is gone.

By diehard Go To Postand its all working fine?

I played Cyberpunk for about 2.5 hours. No issues. Card is an absolute unit. Never got above 68c with the standard Afterburner profile and default fan curve.

Played some Warzone and 3.5hr+ of Cyberpunk. No issues.

So the 3080ti is basically just a 3090 with 20GB of vram


Is this really being announced in January?

Fucken hope so.

various different leakers have been quite confident in the 3080ti coming in jan, although it'll still be near impossible to get one

Seems like it’s a bad time to be on the hunt for a new Gpu huh. No stock anywhere ffs.

Did yall know that lower end Quadro's for the desktop are still on Pascal?

$450 for a 5GB GTX 1060 just so you can get "certified drivers".

Eww

By diehard Go To PostDid yall know that lower end Quadro's for the desktop are still on Pascal?

$450 for a 5GB GTX 1060 just so you can get "certified drivers".

10-bit output is still at a premium? smh.

By Kabro Go To Post10-bit output is still at a premium? smh.

I think the studio drivers will do 10 bit on certain things now?

Here's a TLDR so i don't go on a huge rant:

OpenGL is a open source API that allows custom functions (DirectX does not) so if you have a function in a CAD program that passes on the redrawing of lines after a zoom to a GPU that might only be accelerated if you are using the Quadro driver path while others can be artificially slowed by the lack of Quadro drivers.



Siemens NX is the worst offender by far (Check out that 2080 Ti performance). This isn't extra performance because Quadros have some unlocked double precision performance or ECC VRAM (the highest end Quadro's do), It's simply because they are using a different driver. OEM's also like to spread a whole bunch of FUD about not wanting to use Geforce's because they are low quality and are poorly manufactured.

Companies that make the programs will also blame your Geforce even if it has nothing to do with a problem. "Oh i see you aren't on certified hardware, you will need to get on certified hardware for us to help diagnose this cloud uploading issue". PTC even demands specific hardware models + specific video card + specific driver version and It is absolutely insane.

Holy shit rtx supports 10bit?
Smokey sell me your 2080!

By Smokey Go To PostSold my 2080ti, but cant find the PCIE cables for the 3090 lol. Seasonic's site is out. Cable mod looked to be out in the black color. I don't know if I trust what's on Amazon.

Woooow. Not gonna ask me first? I see.

The studio drivers actually support Pascal and newer

By Kabro Go To PostHoly shit rtx supports 10bit?
Smokey sell me your 2080!
Woooow. Not gonna ask me first? I see.

yall don't actually be serious about buying my GPUs and so i must go elsewhere

so thanks to diehard, im suddently in the market for a 2080 ti.
or is the 3060 ti better?

how much are you willing to pay for a 2080ti

Yeah Kabro.

there's a few for around $600 in my area so I think i can get a 2080ti off offerup sub $600.
but that 3060 ti really better?
when is it going to be widely available?

It ain't better.

It's more 2080 or 2080S level.

Make sure you verify it will add 10bit support to the applications you use. Photoshop was the only one i heard people making a big deal about when the Studio drivers dropped.