It definitely felt like my brain was needing to catch up with the monitor, while 60hz feels like you're waiting on the response. It's wild.
Fuck yeah, managed to get them to notify me when it becomes available, huge step forward. Porca puttana.
managed to order EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra on amazon.fr
Now just praying they actually deliver
Now just praying they actually deliver
By Wahabipapangus Go To PostIsn't that almost the price of a 3080?3080 is € 900+ at the moment.
It was never going for retail here, the 20xx cards were even more expensive in comparison to MSRP.
That's why I'm kinda 50/50 atm.
By Lupercal Go To Post3080 is € 900+ at the moment.
It was never going for retail here, the 20xx cards were even more expensive in comparison to MSRP.
That's why I'm kinda 50/50 atm.
Is there not an official Nvidia partner where you are for the founders editions?
It's Scan in the UK, not sure if they're also for the rest of europe
Wish Arctic or some other company would come out with oversized heatsinks such as these, complete with out-there mounting mechanisms.
By Bungie Go To PostIs there not an official Nvidia partner where you are for the founders editions?
It's Scan in the UK, not sure if they're also for the rest of europe
Not really, all independent retailers if I'm correct.
There's not even a preorder available for founders Editions in Belgium.
€ 625,00 is the cheapest I can find for a 3070 with 2 fans, € 750,00 is the highest I can find.
3080's are ranging from € 900 to € 1200. :(
Also bot for availability is very useful:
https://discord.gg/BV6hqvAhQp
I got a 3080 order in (ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X TUF GAMING) , in a fairly local store. Says expected to be here by 5/11... so the decision is to get that or keep my 3090 order from amazon.de
https://discord.gg/BV6hqvAhQp
I got a 3080 order in (ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X TUF GAMING) , in a fairly local store. Says expected to be here by 5/11... so the decision is to get that or keep my 3090 order from amazon.de
everyone in that discord talking about a uk drop but i cant even get scan to load
this shit is so annoying
this shit is so annoying
Erm, lads. there's a £55 discount on the Corsair A500 heatsink at OCUK.
Panned by reviews because there were much better coolers than it in the £90/$100 price range, but for £35, that is really good value if it fits your case.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-a500-high-performance-120mm-twin-fan-cpu-cooler-ct-9010003-ww-hs-03w-cs.html
Panned by reviews because there were much better coolers than it in the £90/$100 price range, but for £35, that is really good value if it fits your case.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/corsair-a500-high-performance-120mm-twin-fan-cpu-cooler-ct-9010003-ww-hs-03w-cs.html
It's a hard one. Ultrawide is fucking amazing for gaming, I can't stress enough how much I love it. But oled with its sensational hdr and so on, is also very nice.
By Veckrot Go To PostReally struggling to choose between the Samsung G9 and the LG 48 CX.
If you go with the CX, you can use a custom resolution to emulate an ultrawide screen. The black bars on the top and bottom would be pretty unobtrusive due to the OLED's black levels.
By Wahabipapangus Go To PostIt's a hard one. Ultrawide is fucking amazing for gaming, I can't stress enough how much I love it. But oled with its sensational hdr and so on, is also very nice.It’s got the immersion factor going for it.
I’d probably play my entire Steam library again in ultrawide.
By HonestVapes Go To PostIf you go with the CX, you can use a custom resolution to emulate an ultrawide screen. The black bars on the top and bottom would be pretty unobtrusive due to the OLED's black levels.It’s pretty reflective though innit 🤨
By HonestVapes Go To PostIf you go with the CX, you can use a custom resolution to emulate an ultrawide screen. The black bars on the top and bottom would be pretty unobtrusive due to the OLED's black levels.
Wouldn't recommend that since you'd get uneven degredation of the diodes.
By DerZuhälter Go To PostWouldn't recommend that since you'd get uneven degredation of the diodes.
How much of an issue is degradation? I haven’t looked into OLED tech all that much, the only potential issue I was aware of was burn in.
Would playing the occasional single player game in a cropped ultrawide resolution be that noticeable in the long term?
By HonestVapes Go To PostHow much of an issue is degradation? I haven’t looked into OLED tech all that much, the only potential issue I was aware of was burn in.
Would playing the occasional single player game in a cropped ultrawide resolution be that noticeable in the long term?
The occasional game is just as unproblematic as the occasional movie with black bars. So basically no issue at all.
I think the new models take degredation better in account via the refresh cycles in standby mode. Read of the occasional horror stories of people binging old 4:3 formatted TV shows on older models and having quite big brightness differences afterwards. But that was 2016-2018 models.
What do you mean why does it exist. there is demand for a smaller OLED and has been for a while.
it's not significantly cheaper than the 55'' because the 48'' is cut from the same manuf glass as the 77'', which itself is a niche size for OLED.
it's not significantly cheaper than the 55'' because the 48'' is cut from the same manuf glass as the 77'', which itself is a niche size for OLED.
By Smokey Go To PostWhat do you mean why does it exist. there is demand for a smaller OLED and has been for a while.why is it cut from a 77 instead of whatever the 55 is cut from?
it's not cheaper than the 55'' because the 48'' is cut from the same manuf glass as the 77'', which itself is a niche size for OLED.
By sy Go To Postwhy is it cut from a 77 instead of whatever the 55 is cut from?
linus has a good video breaking it down
start at 2:00
By Smokey Go To PostWhat do you mean why does it exist. there is demand for a smaller OLED and has been for a while.ijs that its way more expensive not cheaper.
it's not significantly cheaper than the 55'' because the 48'' is cut from the same manuf glass as the 77'', which itself is a niche size for OLED.
i can get the 55 for 1200 trumps and the 48 is 1500.
By DominicanPower Go To PostI just want a card that helps me get 144 fps in most games at 1080p.On high mid low graphics settings? I assume high?
By DominicanPower Go To PostI just want a card that helps me get 144 fps in most games at 1080p.Really depends on the games, most completive online games worth playing run like butter on lower end GPUs. The 2060 KO in my girlfriend's PC is pushing 200FPS in Fortnite (maxed out, with DLSS, 160FPS without DLSS). Doubt it'd struggle with Apex, or CoD, both on the harder to run side of the scale than say, CS:GO, Valorant, etc.
For single player games, it's more complicated due to a lot of them just not being optimised in a way to make 144hz viable in the first place, followed by CPU limitations. Though a 2060-tier card wouldn't cut it for games like that anyway, as they also tend to be heavier on the GPU.
I would hazard a guess that if the upcoming 3060/3060Ti are in the ballpark of 2080/2080S performance, with 8GB of VRAM, then you should be good for 1080p/144hz in the vast majority of games that are feasible to run at that FPS going forwards.
Without ray tracing taken into account, obviously. The hardware just isn't ready for that.
Vapes, does having the graphics card in such an 'open air' config have any major benefits in terms of temps, gpu and overall?
Compared to having the GPU placed horizontally at the very bottom of the case, I mean, say in the TU-150, not to a 'traditional' sandwich config with a perforated or even solid side panel. The benefits compared the latter are obvious. :)
I have my doubts about it, since most if not all of the hot air is going to get ejected inside the case anyway.
Compared to having the GPU placed horizontally at the very bottom of the case, I mean, say in the TU-150, not to a 'traditional' sandwich config with a perforated or even solid side panel. The benefits compared the latter are obvious. :)
I have my doubts about it, since most if not all of the hot air is going to get ejected inside the case anyway.
By Zabojnik Go To PostVapes, does having the graphics card in such an 'open air' config have any benefits in terms of temps, gpu and overall?
I would imagine not, no major gains at least, since most if not all of the hot air is going to get ejected inside the case anyway.
EDIT: Compared to having the GPU placed horizontally at the very bottom of the case, I mean, say in the TU-150, not to a 'traditional' sandwich config with a solid or perforated side panel. The benefits compared the latter are obvious. :)
Yes, it’s far less restrictive in that layout for airflow. The air exhausted by the GPU can freely go up and down through the vertical fins of the heatsink and be dealt with via positive air pressure or dedicated exhaust fans. Should allow for better temps/lower noise (latter depends since the card will be more audible with no side panel as such to dampen the noise).
Specifically for that case as it is, the top hats imply that case fans are in the top and bottom to further assist in removing the GPU’s heat. Also specifically, as the fans on the GPU are technically external, they can’t recycle the warm air from within the case. The GPU is getting true ambient room temp air which will be in the ballpark of 5-10c cooler than internal case air.
In comparison to small tower ITX case layouts. Like the TU150, NR200, NCase, etc.
The heat exhausted by the GPU will be obstructed by the motherboard and side panel, as that’s how the fins on the heatsink are aligned.
Generally sticking two fans under the GPU is essential for temps, to force air in through the bottom of the case and reduce the amount that the GPU can recycle it’s own exhaust air back through the finstack.
That also depends the ventilation of the side panel, the thickness of the GPU and how good the stock fans are too. The extra fans aren’t necessary if the GPU is close to the lower vents of the case and the fans on it are capable of pulling through some resistance in the vent pattern/dust filter.
Ventilation of the side panel matters as a lot of the GPU’s heat will directly leave the case via the side panel if allowed to.
As for which is better in terms of temps and noise, it’s hard to say without an exact side by side comparison.
Theoretically, a small tower ITX case would be worse off for noise if you’re using fans under the GPU. You’ve got more fans and you’ve got case fans against the GPU fans that can create turbulence. Generally this is why you’ll see a lot of “deshroud” GPU mods with two 120mm fans directly under the GPU’s bare heatsink in these style of cases.
That said, with stock GPU, the additional 120mm fans underneath tend to be quite beneficial in a brute force sense for cooling, and you’ve got side panels all around to dampen noise to an extent.
The Ghost S1, without the GPU side panel and zero top hats would perform similarly to an open bench table, with the option for a single 120mm fan.
It should be the quieter option, but any coil whine, on the GPU would be more noticeable since there’s nothing to dampen the sound.
I don’t think there would be much of difference for temps of the rest of the components in either style case. Though especially for sandwich layouts, a rear M.2 will get toasty since it’s between the motherboard and GPU with limited airflow. Less of an issue in the standard layout, but generally will still run warm due to limited airflow.
Also I’m tired af, so if anything is unclear in the above, I’ll get back to you on it tomorrow.
By HonestVapes Go To Post*knowledge*Thanks m8, really appreciate you taking the time.
Lots of stuff to think about. You've thrown in some more variables, leaving me to deal with a "what to do for my next build" equation that is going to be hard to solve. It's all stuff I've mentioned in the past, like (possibly) wanting a smaller case I could occasionally carry down the the C9 for that 4K HDR 120hz gaming glory ... wanting to tackle making my own case, but continuously debating with myself if it's actually worth the time and effort and whether I could end up with something as professional-looking and effective in terms of noise and cooling performance as I'd want ...
It's all still cooking in my brain and I don't want to bore you guys with it until I have at least the semblance of a plan, but let's just say that downsizing introduces challenges that are antithetical to the needs and wishes of a silence nerd such as myself. My current build has really spoiled me.
I really recommend checking out this forum: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/category/custom-cases-projects/
The knowledge in there from people designing all manner of different cases of different sizes and layouts absolutely dwarfs mine. If nothing else you’ll definitely find some good ideas and inspiration for your own case.
The knowledge in there from people designing all manner of different cases of different sizes and layouts absolutely dwarfs mine. If nothing else you’ll definitely find some good ideas and inspiration for your own case.
At this unsatisfying rate I'll probably never get a new card. Just bump up the VRAM you cheap leather jacket wearing mug. 12GB should be the minimum for the 3060.
By rerixo Go To PostRemember what I said about recommended spec being marketing slides? Same applies to that until proven otherwise.
nvidia's abysmal amounts of vram is gonna seem like a joke real quick
As it stands, the full quote comes across like a bad salesman flogging AMD’s 6000 series cards.
They claim so with the new ones, and probably aren't lying too much. But time will tell, have to see what independent reviewers and tech people say. Although certainly they will miss some features nvidia got,.
From what it looks like according to their presentation and leaks is that the new AMD cards are competitive in rasterization but have the RT capabilities of the 2080ti and no proven support for something similar to DLSS.
E: all said, this is the first time they have gotten this close in like a decade
E: all said, this is the first time they have gotten this close in like a decade
By FootbalIFan Go To PostAre AMDs cards good or comparable to the Nvidia cards?They’re mostly fine across the board and have been comparable to what Nvidia offers within the same price bracket for the last few years. They’ve just not had a GPU that can match Nvidia at the high end for years.
Seems that’s changed with their RX 6000 cards, but they’re not out yet and we’re all waiting to see how they truly perform in benchmarks.
Their drivers tho, eh. Been some issues with them in recent times. Hopefully it won’t hold back their new line up of cards.