By Kibner Go To PostNah, just a weeb.Disgusting.
If I do ever display something like that, it will have been from a kit that I built and maybe even painted myself.
By HonestVapes Go To PostI don't trust anybody that puts a toy, plushie or figurine inside their PC.Time for a repost.
I don't know what the fuck i was thinking tbh so I don't really respect myself either.
By batong_doicare Go To PostTime for a repost.That's you?
I don't know what the fuck i was thinking tbh so I don't really respect myself either.
I think I finally figured out what a lot of these BIOS options mean and configured them correctly. My 2700X with no memory tune (running at 2133 with 15-15-15-36 timings) was able to hit 4054 in Cinebench R20. Put memtest86 on a bootable USB so it is time to start the long, slow, tedious journey of overclocking my RAM as fast as it can go with tight timings.
Team Red checking in. 3950x bought.
I just need a cooler now to start my build.
Hearing some good things about the alphacool eisbaer 360. Or just stick with noctua black?
I just need a cooler now to start my build.
Hearing some good things about the alphacool eisbaer 360. Or just stick with noctua black?
By Kabro Go To PostTeam Red checking in. 3950x bought.There is another cooler that is just as good as the Noctua DH-15 but I can't remember the name of it. A 360mm AIO would run quieter and cooler than either, though. Assuming you put quiet (possibly Noctua) fans on it, anyway.
I just need a cooler now to start my build.
Hearing some good things about the alphacool eisbaer 360. Or just stick with noctua black?
If i was going to go AIO again i'd probably go with the newest NZXT's that are on Asetek gen 7. 360MM AIOs aren't really any better than 280's if i recall correctly.
By diehard Go To PostIf i was going to go AIO again i'd probably go with the newest NZXT's that are on Asetek gen 7. 360MM AIOs aren't really any better than 280's if i recall correctly.
Why not the better Arctic Liquid Freezer II?
Also congrats to Kado for being pc elite now too.
By Adam Go To PostWhy not the better Arctic Liquid Freezer II?Totally forgot about that one.
Also congrats to Kado for being pc elite now too.
X63 if you like the looks and a better mounting mechanism though. Supposedly CAM sucks so maybe thats a win for the Freezer II...
dont care about vanity.
x63 is sexy af, but that Arctic liquid Freezer II sounds like the go to AIO.
thanks gents,
Here's my final checklist. It ill be used as VFX and 4k editing station.
Phanteks Evolv X
Aorus Master x570
3950x
Arctic liquid Freezer II
2x Sabrent 4.0 NVME m.2 1tb (for Raw footage/plates, and the other for cache)
64gb Ripjaws 3200mhz
EVGA G2 PSU
1080 ti (holding off for 3000 series)
forgot, i'll need another SSD or nvme for OS.
so any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
x63 is sexy af, but that Arctic liquid Freezer II sounds like the go to AIO.
thanks gents,
Here's my final checklist. It ill be used as VFX and 4k editing station.
Phanteks Evolv X
Aorus Master x570
3950x
Arctic liquid Freezer II
2x Sabrent 4.0 NVME m.2 1tb (for Raw footage/plates, and the other for cache)
64gb Ripjaws 3200mhz
EVGA G2 PSU
1080 ti (holding off for 3000 series)
forgot, i'll need another SSD or nvme for OS.
so any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
By diehard Go To PostTotally forgot about that one.
X63 if you like the looks and a better mounting mechanism though. Supposedly CAM sucks so maybe thats a win for the Freezer II…
Yeah, mounting mine was a bit of a pain, required more than 2 hands since I'm a neophyte.
By Kabro Go To Postdont care about vanity.
x63 is sexy af, but that Arctic liquid Freezer II sounds like the go to AIO.
thanks gents,
Here's my final checklist. It ill be used as VFX and 4k editing station.
Phanteks Evolv X
Aorus Master x570
3950x
Arctic liquid Freezer II
2x Sabrent 4.0 NVME m.2 1tb (for Raw footage/plates, and the other for cache)
64gb Ripjaws 3200mhz
EVGA G2 PSU
1080 ti (holding off for 3000 series)
forgot, i'll need another SSD or nvme for OS.
so any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe the Adata Sx8200 Pro?
https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide_List.pdf
Handy guide.
Inland Premium are good. They are Microcenter's house brand and have good parts and won't break the bank.
Also, you may want to consider the Asus Pro WS X570-ACE for your motherboard since it is intended as a workstation motherboard. Take a look at the specs and maybe the Anandtech review to see if it has features you want/need.
e: I am currently using that Asus motherboard and have been bitching about the weirdly named BIOS options, but think I have it mostly figured out.
Also, you may want to consider the Asus Pro WS X570-ACE for your motherboard since it is intended as a workstation motherboard. Take a look at the specs and maybe the Anandtech review to see if it has features you want/need.
e: I am currently using that Asus motherboard and have been bitching about the weirdly named BIOS options, but think I have it mostly figured out.
By Adam Go To PostKibner and Asus, name a better Stockholm syndrome example. 😏I think it's only my second Asus board? My first one lasted me about five years or so.
e: also, that one i linked kado is the only x570 workstation board that i am aware of. it is meant for folks with workloads similar to his
By Kabro Go To PostTeam Red checking in. 3950x bought.
I just need a cooler now to start my build.
Hearing some good things about the alphacool eisbaer 360. Or just stick with noctua black?
The Eisbaer LT AIOs are good, I had the LT240. I’d only recommend them tho if you’d want to mod them down the line or like the idea of having a fully serviceable AIO with no chance of ever getting galvanic corrosion.
The downside is the mounting bracket is a pain in the arse.
Performance-wise, the Arctic AIO is the better choice. It’s a 38mm (aluminium) rad vs a 25mm (copper) rad.
Vapes, do you have any tips for undervolting an Intel laptop? Trying to lower temps on my work one. I'm using XTU since there are no BIOS controls for this laptop.
I'm mostly just wanting to find the greatest undervolt offset that is completely stable without spending a ton of time. Preferably on the core, cache, and integrated graphics.
Is running the built-in stress test for five minutes enough?
I'm mostly just wanting to find the greatest undervolt offset that is completely stable without spending a ton of time. Preferably on the core, cache, and integrated graphics.
Is running the built-in stress test for five minutes enough?
By Kibner Go To PostVapes, do you have any tips for undervolting an Intel laptop? Trying to lower temps on my work one. I'm using XTU since there are no BIOS controls for this laptop.
I'm mostly just wanting to find the greatest undervolt offset that is completely stable without spending a ton of time. Preferably on the core, cache, and integrated graphics.
Is running the built-in stress test for five minutes enough?
Honestly I’ve never been hands on with an Intel laptop. The one my gf has is last gen Ryzen.
I treat any undervolt the same as I treat an overclock though, if it passes 20 or so minutes of OCCT I’m happy to call it stable.
This might help you out though
Fuck it, I'm going to do it myself and save some money. How does this look so far for a below 2k build?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/
Anything that needs changing or is this solid?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/
Anything that needs changing or is this solid?
That's odd, link works for me.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7k2TgJ
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Black NVMe 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card
Power Supply: Gigabyte 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX
The total cost is 1800.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/7k2TgJ
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Black NVMe 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card
Power Supply: Gigabyte 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX
The total cost is 1800.
1800$ including the ultrawide 3440x1440 144hz monitor? This CPU + GPU combo is going to have a sweaty time feeding it the frames it craves, definitely in AAA titles at very high / ultra settings and especially in the not too distant future. And that's before taking ray-tracing into consideration.
Maybe I missed something, but I thought you were contemplating 3900x and 2080ti class hardware earlier in the discussion.
The rest of the parts I can get behind, though I'd go with the Meshify C over the Define R5 (they're up to R7 now btw) for airflow and looks.
Maybe I missed something, but I thought you were contemplating 3900x and 2080ti class hardware earlier in the discussion.
The rest of the parts I can get behind, though I'd go with the Meshify C over the Define R5 (they're up to R7 now btw) for airflow and looks.
Yeah, that CPU and GPU will push recent games at medium-high settings to ~80-100 fps. I have a similar setup except with a 2700x and 1070 which are slightly weaker but that is my experience.
e: also that power supply is way more than you need for those parts. haha
let me see if i can get you something a little more well rounded and suited for your purposes
e: also that power supply is way more than you need for those parts. haha
let me see if i can get you something a little more well rounded and suited for your purposes
Yeah, my initial exuberance had me flying too close to the sun with those early specs. Taking in to account all the added cost of accommodating a desktop and fuck off prices for tech in Canada, I decided to scale back across the board. The important thing for me now is that I'm able to play most games at decent settings and that there's a clear path for upgrading in the future.
The $1800 is excluding the ultra wide and peripherals, Zabo.
The $1800 is excluding the ultra wide and peripherals, Zabo.
This would be something more inline with what you were originally looking for pre-built:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($579.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: EVGA CLC 280 113.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($179.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($203.20 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($115.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *ADATA XPG SX8100 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($285.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($679.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Silverstone Essential 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($122.62 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2306.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 11:35 EDT-0400
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor ($579.00 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: EVGA CLC 280 113.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($179.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z490M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($203.20 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($115.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: *ADATA XPG SX8100 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($285.99 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace)
Video Card: *Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card ($679.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Silverstone Essential 750 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($122.62 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $2306.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-06-05 11:35 EDT-0400
By Kibner Go To PostYeah, that CPU and GPU will push recent games at medium-high settings to ~80-100 fps. I have a similar setup except with a 2700x and 1070 which are slightly weaker but that is my experience.This is what I have (non X version), and yeah, it's gonna show its age next year. There's definitely a better balanced system out there. Savings from a more modest power supply should got to GPU and it's gonna need more storage within the next 6 months.
e: also that power supply is way more than you need for those parts. haha
let me see if i can get you something a little more well rounded and suited for your purposes
By Elliott Go To PostYeah, my initial exuberance had me flying too close to the sun with those early specs. Taking in to account all the added cost of accommodating a desktop and fuck off prices for tech in Canada, I decided to scale back across the board. The important thing for me now is that I'm able to play most games at decent settings and that there's a clear path for upgrading in the future.Oh, just saw this post. In this case, switch out your case with the Meshify C like Zabo mentioned and also consider the alternative storage in my previous post.
The $1800 is excluding the ultra wide and peripherals, Zabo.
1 TB of storage will leave you feeling awfully constricted rather quickly. Definitely get at least 2 TB. The drive I listed may have lackluster write-speeds after the cache fills up, but that is not something you will really need to be worrying about since you won't be transferring files to it and just downloading them off the internet.
By Elliott Go To PostThe $1800 is excluding the ultra wide and peripherals, Zabo.That seems ... way too high?
I'd still recommend either upgrading to the 2070 Super or looking into getting a used 1080ti, if you can find a good deal. You could probably save some money by going with an incoming (June 16th, supposedly) B550 motherboard instead of X570. Both (will) support Ryzen 4000 processors and PCIe 4.0. Also, yeah, a cheaper-yet-still-good power supply might help with min-maxing.
Seasonic, Corsair, and Silverstone are the PSU companies I trust the most, tbh. I think they mostly all source parts from Seasonic, anyway, iirc.
1TB isn't ideal, but that's an easy upgrade, since most if not all B550/X570 mobos have 2 m.2 slots. If you're on a tight budget, 1TB is good enough.
By Elliott Go To PostCorsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power SupplyI would think so. Higher metal rating would be better, but I don't think you are going to be overclocking or needing five-nines kind of uptime or using your machine to make money, so Bronze is fine. I run more power-hungry versions of your parts (since mine are older) on a 600 W while overclocking and still have a bunch of headroom so you will be fine. You may need to replace the PSU in five years instead of ten years but who knows what will have changed by then.
Is this better for the PSU?
Updated specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: EVGA CLC 280 113.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550M-A/CSM AM4 AMD B550 AMD Motherboard
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
SSD: Western Digital Black NVMe 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
Price: $1850
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: EVGA CLC 280 113.5 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550M-A/CSM AM4 AMD B550 AMD Motherboard
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory
SSD: Western Digital Black NVMe 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case
PSU: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply
Price: $1850
Definitely better. You could also maybe get a smaller cooler and use those savings to get more storage (like the 2 TB adata drive I linked). Vapes would probably be a good authority on that. He works with small form factor cases where there isn't room for really big coolers so would know of more alternatives.
By Kibner Go To PostDefinitely better. You could also maybe get a smaller cooler and use those savings to get more storage (like the 2 TB adata drive I linked). Vapes would probably be a good authority on that. He works with small form factor cases where there isn't room for really big coolers so would know of more alternatives.https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=137820
How does that look?
By Elliott Go To Posthttps://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=137820It is too tall for your case, unfortunately. Here is an alternative at the same price that should fit in your case: https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=151360 (Deepcool Assassin III, for anyone that doesn't want to click)
How does that look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cMGc4n
This is what Vapes specced for me, in the beginning of the year. I finally have the bread to get it. If I wanted to throw $200 more at it, what should I put it towards?
I swear I'm just going to get this mobo from Amazon (overpriced or not), just so that I can be past this process. 😐
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($493.06 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($148.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card ($280.00)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1231.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-15 11:09 EST-0500
This is what Vapes specced for me, in the beginning of the year. I finally have the bread to get it. If I wanted to throw $200 more at it, what should I put it towards?
I swear I'm just going to get this mobo from Amazon (overpriced or not), just so that I can be past this process. 😐
Graphics card. Get a 2070 Super in there.
I had no idea PC parts prices were that bad in Canada.
EDIT: If for content creation, listen to Kib.
I had no idea PC parts prices were that bad in Canada.
EDIT: If for content creation, listen to Kib.
By EldritchTrapStar Go To Posthttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/cMGc4nFor your use case (content creation, right?), either the 3950x, more/better storage, or a good cooler (Noctua D15, Assassin Deepcool III, and be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 are the best air coolers). The easiest to get now (and most expensive to upgrade later) is the CPU. Adding storage and an after-market cooler are easy to do when you get more money, so maybe the CPU?
This is what Vapes specced for me, in the beginning of the year. I finally have the bread to get it. If I wanted to throw $200 more at it, what should I put it towards?
I swear I'm just going to get this mobo from Amazon (overpriced or not), just so that I can be past this process. 😐
By EldritchTrapStar Go To Posthttps://pcpartpicker.com/list/cMGc4nThe motherboard has jumped in price? Maybe go with one of the Gigabyte boards cheaper than it currently. I spotted one for $170 and one for $200. Buildzoid seems pretty happy with the Gigabyte X570 boards on the whole, so probably not a bad idea to go with them.
This is what Vapes specced for me, in the beginning of the year. I finally have the bread to get it. If I wanted to throw $200 more at it, what should I put it towards?
I swear I'm just going to get this mobo from Amazon (overpriced or not), just so that I can be past this process. 😐
By Kibner Go To PostDefinitely better. You could also maybe get a smaller cooler and use those savings to get more storage (like the 2 TB adata drive I linked). Vapes would probably be a good authority on that. He works with small form factor cases where there isn't room for really big coolers so would know of more alternatives.
Meshify C is good with up to 170mm air coolers, so it's good with any of the top end aircoolers. Though if Scythe are an easy brand to come by in Canada, then the Ninja 5 and Fuma 2 are usually cheap compared to Noctua and BeQueit and still really good aircoolers for noise/performance.
I game and stream, but I do a lot of video and photo work. So, I'm conflicted. 😂 I'll adjust the build and see what the finances are like. Might be able to pull off both. We'll see. I do have a couple spare ssd's, so I'm good there. I do appreciate the help. I'm trying to start ordering parts, today or tomorrow.
Yeah, I mentioned the CPU because I know you would use this machine to actually make money and the CPU upgrade would make your work process quicker.