NBA 2015 | Offseason | 🏀🎪

Ain't nobody got shit on the Hawks new logo right now.

MS called, they're suing the Hawks for stealing clipart from MS word circa 2000.

By db Go To PostAin't nobody got shit on the Hawks new logo right now.

MS called, they're suing the Hawks for stealing clipart from MS word circa 2000.

At least the Pacman logo is cool.

I'm hoping Nike gets the next NBA contract. The NBA has a lot of teams in need of an aesthetics overhaul.

By IWMTB19 Go To PostWhat do you think the odds are that NBA teams have their old (1995-2004) scouting reports on computer file and would be willing to send them to me just because I begged for their scouting reports through email?

Also try to reach out directly to current and former scouts. Hell up until Clarence Gaines got hired by the knicks he had a blog where he would share his old scouting reports. I could see a scout not currently employed being ok with giving their reports especially if they weren't working as scouts anymore.

If that really happened how would Miami feel about that?

wonder could the Heat, Lakers, and Cavs pull a sign and trade deal.

Lakers gets Love
Cavs get Wade
Heat get some cap relief and a pick

or are the Heat to much over the cap for that?

By Forever Go To PostIf that really happened how would Miami feel about that?

By vire Go To Post

So, The Reverse Decision?

hahaha looking at the podcast info, le batard show got the wade news midshow

mike ryan melting down gonna be required listening

By RBK Go To PostDon't know how you came to that conclusion from my post.

Firing Thibs is most likely to appease Butler snd Gasol(who's pretty much severely underpaid at this point of his career). Noah is for sure gone though.

Has almost literally nothing to do with those players preferences.

By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostAlso try to reach out directly to current and former scouts. Hell up until Clarence Gaines got hired by the knicks he had a blog where he would share his old scouting reports. I could see a scout not currently employed being ok with giving their reports especially if they weren't working as scouts anymore.

Hmm, good call.

By Forever Go To PostSo, The Reverse Decision?

Probably worse tbh...

I mean the dude is literally the greatest sports star in the states history. Since winning three championships he even rose above deity status Marino. The Heat organization started this marketing promotion called "Heat Lifer" after Lebron left and Dwyane was prominently featured in all of those videos.

Even when things weren't going right with the big three, rarely ever did the blame go on Dwyane. They fucking renamed Dade County to Wade County once...

I'm telling you, shit would hit the fan like you've never seen.

By giririsss Go To PostHas almost literally nothing to do with those players preferences.

It doesn't, but I'm sure their opinions mattered the most assuming they were some of the starters that complained.

By vire Go To PostI'm telling you, shit would hit the fan like you've never seen.

Comic Sans?

I don't give a fuck about how classy bulls front office are, I only want resign jimmy and they play watchable basketball next year.

By RBK Go To PostIt doesn't, but I'm sure their opinions mattered the most assuming they were some of the starters that complained.

So you agree their opinion had not part.
But that it mattered the most.

By fertygo Go To PostI don't give a fuck about how classy bulls front office are, I only want resign jimmy and they play watchable basketball next year.

Class has a lot to do with it. No one wants to play for a FO that throws everyone under the bus. And good coaches are going to be hesitant in signing up for a FO that throws them under the bus. And this isn't the first time CHI have done this.

By giririsss Go To PostClass has a lot to do with it. No one wants to play for a FO that throws everyone under the bus. And good coaches are going to be hesitant in signing up for a FO that throws them under the bus. And this isn't the first time CHI have done this.

Don't made me sad ::(

Hoiberg it is then, sigh..

GarPax can FOH if cycle repeating again, he only forgiven because Jimmy and Mirotic looks awesome.

By vire Go To PostAt least we are going to make the Playoffs next year. lolz Lakers stay losing.

That you will, and you'll be out early. You are just following the Lakers timeline.

Deal with it.

By fertygo Go To PostDon't made me sad ::(

Hoiberg it is then, sigh..

GarPax can FOH if cycle repeating again, he only forgiven because Jimmy and Mirotic looks awesome.

To some degree it basically all comes down to class. The Bulls front office requests of minutes restrictions, player load balancing, injury management etc. are all reasonable. There's no need for starters to be playing 40 minutes in a game you win by 20. it means you're restricting development of rookies, and significantly increasing injury probability.

The Spurs being the gold standard of player welfare management. The Thibs Bulls being the shit stained standard.

But the bulls FO didn't handle it well at all. With VDN getting to a physical altercation with one of them. And the shitty way they went about releasing statements to the press about Thibs, while still employing him. They also take everything way too personally. Putting their personal feelings into everything it seems, and letting little disagreements get personal and turn into larger problems.

If Thibs didn't get on board wit their new theory of player management, you fire him. You can state your reasons afterwards. But you don't run a 2 year long press assassination of his character. It divides the team, the organisation, and creates a bad work environment.

GarPax are good at some things, but they seem to be at the end of their tenure as FO execs. To me, anyway. They probably need to be shown the door too, now that Thibs is gone. Refresh the organisation and update that culture.

It's still an attractive posting for a coach though. Look at what a "rookie" coach like Kerr did walking in with a loaded roster. The bulls are similar. Great roster, young guys, money, experience, good city.

wade aint betrayin miami. if he did it will be to chicago.

Wade to Cavs would make him look like a massive pussy ho and even I think he's above that.

Having said that, I see him going to Chicago or Rockets maybe.

But fuck no he ain't worth more than 16M a year. I wouldn't even give him 10M to be honest.

I can see him working out aite for clips

By DY_nasty Go To PostI can see him working out aite for clips

Clips Have absolutely no cap room even if deandre walks.

Dwayne Wade with the I'm Coming Home story. Signing with Chicago with a starting line up of Derrick Rose, Dwayne Wade, Jimmy Butler, Nikola Mirotic, and Pau Gasol.

Bench of Aaron Brooks, Tony Snell, Heinrich, Noah, etc.

I know they can't afford him.
My bet is he's staying with Miami only cause nowhere else is gonna take him and he ain't gonna like the other offers.

By Mamba Go To PostClips Have absolutely no cap room even if deandre walks.

but doc

By giririsss Go To PostSo you agree their opinion had not part.
But that it mattered the most.

You stated almost, which I agreed with. They weren't ultimately the deciding factor considering he's been on thin ice for like 3 years now nor do we think the opinion of E'TWaun Moore is more important than Taj Gibson's.

By unknown Go To Postwade aint betrayin miami. if he did it will be to chicago.

Do they have cap space?

By AlphaSnacks Go To PostI wouldn't even give him 10M to be honest.

4/40 million is a steal. Him coming to Houston is kind of a pipe dream though.

By DY_nasty Go To PostI can see him working out aite for clips

Is Doc the GM even capable of such moves?

So the Denver Knick-valiers gon win the chip or naw?

Naw

D'Angelo Russell
Jahlil Okafor
Karl Towns
Justise Winslow
Stanley Johnson
Kevon Looney
Myles Turner
Tyus Jones
Delon Wright
Frank Kaminsky
Christian Wood
Bobby Portis
Cameron Payne
Kelly Oubre
Jerian Grant
Willie Cauley-Stein
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Chris McCullough
R.J. Hunter
Montrezl Harrell

1-20 rankings per some assembled analytics polling.

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Analytics-Models-and-the-NBA-Draft-5021/

Analytics seem to be in love with Looney, and the Wiz have already interviewed him. IDK how to feel about him.

You know the saying their are lies, dirty lies, damned dirty lies, and statistics. First that list doesn't include Mudiay because he went to China or either of the 2 europeans who are lottery bound. That is fair but though reading through it they do not justify the reasoning for how some of the data was weighted either.

For example Steve Shea's model does not use regression and relies upon a scale based on time in college but it then doesn't explain how much weight is given to time in college in that model. Another example would be Jesse Fischer model which accounts for players he assumes are NBA bound as the players team mates, coaching preference (based on the writer's assumption not productivity) with the goal of trying to judge how long a kid who has never played in the NBA's career will be. I have no problem with analytics but I like to see where the Data is and have it broken down as to why certain factors are given precedent over others.

Steph is such a wholesome dude.

No wonder everybody's all over him.

Magic are entering negotiations with Skiles according to Marc Stein.

Yooo, why is Wade getting pedicures and shit?

dafuq

I like Kevin Looney. Wouldn't mind the Cs drafting him

By AWojPerhaps this partnership was forever doomed. Thibodeau was Jerry Reinsdorf's choice to coach the Bulls, choosing him over Paxson's (Doug Collins) and Forman's (Lawrence Frank and Mike Brown).

Bulls management really ain't shit. They wanted Thibs so sing their praises?

welp the magic offense wont be any worse under skiles than thibs

Wesley Matthews throwing jabs in this appearance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY0Em5JgFRA

Per Realgm wiretap:

The Chicago Bulls moved forward with firing Tom Thibodeau this week as it became clear that the front office had an understanding with Fred Hoiberg that he would accept the job.

Hoiberg played for the Bulls during his playing career and has prior front office experience with the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Hoiberg has had a successful run as head coach of Iowa State.

Its less about Hoiberg and more about his assists honestly. Breath of fresh air that Chicago could use though.

Bulls will be in the Finals next year.

This is assuming Rose's injury history is behind him.

Hoiberg vs. Donovan in the Finals.

The rookie coach curse was broken this year, the college coach curse gets broken next year. :3

By KingGondo Go To PostHoiberg vs. Donovan in the Finals.

The rookie coach curse was broken this year, the college coach curse gets broken next year. :3

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

By RBK Go To PostBulls will be in the Finals next year.

This is assuming Rose's injury history is behind him.

So they won't be in the finals.

OK.

By RBK Go To Post4/40 million is a steal. Him coming to Houston is kind of a pipe dream though.

Is Doc the GM even capable of such moves?

You already have Josh Smith who's stealing your team's money. What do you need Wade for? You know he wouldn't play off the bench right?

Either way, he's quickly going to realize no one is going to give him that kind of money and come to terms with it in Miami...where his stats will drop hard and he'll demand a trade.

Yo reilo, I managed to get my hands on some Stumptown Cold Brew.

Good shit.

By KingGondo Go To PostYo reilo, I managed to get my hands on some Stumptown Cold Brew.

Good shit.

Told you!

By reilo Go To PostTold you!

I saw it at Whole Foods this past weekend and bought several bottles. Really helps me get through the afternoons at work.

I can't believe it took this long for someone to create a mass-market cold brew coffee in a bottle with no sugar or milk.

By KingGondo Go To PostI saw it at Whole Foods this past weekend and bought several bottles. Really helps me get through the afternoons at work.

I can't believe it took this long for someone to create a mass-market cold brew coffee in a bottle with no sugar or milk.

They also have a milk-based version in a carton that's also fantastic. It's basically a really good cold latte. But yeah, I found some at Whole Foods the other day, too.