By Sharp Go To PostTwo foot surgeries pretty much mean he's done for sure, right? I'm thinking of baseball, where a single Tommy John surgery is usually fine, but two means you're fucked for life.
Yeah, I think this is pretty much it.
The 76ers still have Noel (who is a great player) and they have Saric next year and they have whatever Okafor can get in a trade in February... But this team's future is going to be determined entirely by the 2016 draft now and isn't too bright otherwise.
The worrying part about Embiid's foot isn't that he re-injured it, it's that it never healed or recovered from the first injury.
Sounds like bad genetics, guy just has a bum foot
Sounds like bad genetics, guy just has a bum foot
By Nobility Go To PostJust heard the news.I just don't understand this. Why don't they actually release details?
Knux, I'm so sorry.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/11/8933635/joel-embiid-injury-philadelphia-76ers-foot-surgery
Last month, the Sixers announced Embiid had suffered another setback, but they did not give a timetable for his return or rule him out for the year. Now, Embiid definitely will undergo a second surgery, and the only question is when and where he will have it.What exactly is the "setback"? Exactly wtf could you do to your foot when YOU'RE NOT EVEN PLAYING that would require a second surgery?
By Moris Go To PostThe worrying part about Embiid's foot isn't that he re-injured it, it's that it never healed or recovered from the first injury.Is that it? It could be that he's not taking the recovery period seriously and clowning around, which would be a damn shame.
IIRC Embiid went to a specialist to check his progress and his foot was healing slower than it should. Could have been surgar coated, I suspect it just stopped healing.
Do the Nuggets have to move on from Ty Lawson?
Billups : Yes. I think so. I mean, well, one, Ty, he has not demonstrated what you want from the leader of your team and a guy who they’ve handed the keys to. He’s not demonstrated the kind of leadership that you want. And you have a young kid named [Emmanuel] Mudiay coming in who I think has a chance to be a star in this league. Right now the best player on the team is Ty Lawson. As a young player in the league, you come in 19-20 years old, you oftentimes try to emulate some of the actions on the floor and off the floor of the best player because that’s one day what you want to be. So I think just from the standpoint of the welfare of Mudiay and the well-being and the growth of Mudiay, you have to get Ty Lawson and you have to move him along.
What would you take for Ty? How desperate are you to make that move?http://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25238817
Billups : It’s tough. You know, I think he just needs a change of scenery. Obviously you gotta get proper value for him because he is still a very good player and I think in the right situation Ty can be good for somebody. But Ty can’t be the leader of your basketball team. I thought they knew that, but you find out how you find out. But I think you try your best to move him but you don’t want to get beat over the head for him. At the moment right now, he’s not giving everybody a good snapshot of what he is, with the immature things that he’s doing, whether it’s social media, the things that he’s saying. So you're looking from the flips side and you’re saying, ‘Yeah, the guy’s a good player, but do I really want him on my team with all of that?’ You know what I mean? So it’s not just him as a player and what he can do. This is a guy that’s gonna come there, he’s not coming to be nobody’s backup. He’s a starter. He’s a good player. So it’s tough what he’s doing right now.
Hinkie's a piece of work.
Cubes not at all impressed with DAJ's "apology"
By psychintellect Go To Posthttp://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25238817LOLLLLLLL
Billups went all in.
git fukt lawson
also, Billups knows wazzup about Mudiay
By Sharp Go To PostTwo foot surgeries pretty much mean he's done for sure, right? I'm thinking of baseball, where a single Tommy John surgery is usually fine, but two means you're fucked for life.Not necessarily, the sixers have been really smart about it, and seemed to have caught this one really early. They're being super cautious with him. So there's a real chance he'll be able to heal properly.
Most guys who have their careers ended by foot problems are older guys, ~30.
The only other young guy that I can think of with feet problem is Brooke Lopez. And the Nets don't seem to have a particularly cautious med team.
By SamuraiX- Go To PostIs that it? It could be that he's not taking the recovery period seriously and clowning around, which would be a damn shame.I think it's just weak bones or something. There were whispers of that nature at the draft.
Really a loss for the sport, he had the talent and the personality to be an all timer.
By K@do Go To PostI've always liked billups.
except in the 2004 finals of course.
I figured Billips would move into coaching at some point. Retired last year. Wonder if he gets an assistant job somewhere.
By Nobility Go To PostJust heard the news.Jesus
Knux, I'm so sorry.
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/11/8933635/joel-embiid-injury-philadelphia-76ers-foot-surgery
Also,
By giririsss Go To PostNot necessarily, the sixers have been really smart about it, and seemed to have caught this one really early. They're being super cautious with him. So there's a real chance he'll be able to heal properly.Are here any examples of basketball players who have had two consecutive foot surgeries without playing a game, and gone on to have productive careers? I really hope the answer is "yes," because I would also like to see him play.
Most guys who have their careers ended by foot problems are older guys, ~30.
The only other young guy that I can think of with feet problem is Brooke Lopez. And the Nets don't seem to have a particularly cautious med team.
I bet they just have people come back too soon after foot issues. How long was he out of commission before he got back on the court?
By db Go To PostI bet they just have people come back too soon after foot issues. How long was he out of commission before he got back on the court?I think it's pretty universal in professional sports to have people come back way too soon after injuries. My parents are doctors and always shocked at how quickly athletes are claimed to have fully recovered. Yes, they're much physically fitter than the average schlub, but that only explains so much.
By db Go To PostI bet they just have people come back too soon after foot issues. How long was he out of commission before he got back on the court?forever
they were super conservative with his rehab.
By Sharp Go To PostI think it's pretty universal in professional sports to have people come back way too soon after injuries. My parents are doctors and always shocked at how quickly athletes are claimed to have fully recovered.Yeah. Not a doc but wouldn't feet would be the worst to come back too early? You can't really "go light" on them, they suffer under the pressure and weight of the body.
By db Go To PostYeah. Not a doc but wouldn't feet would be the worst to come back too early? You can't really "go light" on them, they suffer under the pressure and weight of the body.Feet are complicated, there's a reason you have to get an entirely different license to operate on them. I'm sure basketball teams know how long and whether these sorts of things can heal properly (however they ultimately choose to interpret that advice).
My personal theory is that a lot of these injuries are never recovered from properly, and the reason that players who get injured early seem to be injury prone is because they're playing injured the rest of their careers (leading to improper favoring, weakness of the affected area, etc.).
By Sharp Go To PostFeet are complicated, there's a reason you have to get an entirely different license to operate on them. I'm sure basketball teams know how long and whether these sorts of things can heal properly (however they ultimately choose to interpret that advice).Well it seems for the most part the Bulls dealt with it fine, same with the Nets. Can't really say the same about the Thunder though.
Embiid had surgery (2 screws put in his foot) June 20th 2014. 6 months later he was cleared for standstill shooting drills, 3 months after that cleared for running a month after that he was cleared for 1 on 1 drills.
Some point between the beginning of April and now he was brought in for an evaluation and despite him saying he felt better than ever doctors said his foot wasn't healing as projected and now this.
Some point between the beginning of April and now he was brought in for an evaluation and despite him saying he felt better than ever doctors said his foot wasn't healing as projected and now this.
By Moris Go To PostEmbiid had surgery (2 screws put in his foot) June 20th 2014. 6 months later he was cleared for standstill shooting drills, 3 months after that cleared for running a month after that he was cleared for 1 on 1 drills.If I were Embiid in that situation, I'd probably also try to get back on the court as soon as possible, even if I was still hurting. "Bad for your long term career" is meaningless if you get cut before you have a career.
Some point between the beginning of April and now he was brought in for an evaluation and despite him saying he felt better than ever doctors said his foot wasn't healing as projected and now this.
If it's a bone problem (would also explain his back?) there's probably no fixing it.
I heard that in Cameroon there isn't as much access to milk and calcium and stuff like that which might have been a factor for him growing up as a 7 footer.
I heard that in Cameroon there isn't as much access to milk and calcium and stuff like that which might have been a factor for him growing up as a 7 footer.
By Forever Go To PostIf it's a bone problem (would also explain his back?) there's probably no fixing it.From the images of him when he came over, he's also gained a lot of weight, which probably doesn't help.
I heard that in Cameroon there isn't as much access to milk and calcium and stuff like that which might have been a factor for him growing up as a 7 footer.
Yeah you look at even the Lopez bros and Rolo's been relatively lean compared to his bro, who had the foot issues. If you look at Brook pre and post injury he's lost some weight too.
By db Go To PostYeah you look at even the Lopez bros and Rolo's been relatively lean compared to his bro, who had the foot issues. If you look at Brook pre and post injury he's lost some weight too.The elephant in the room regarding Bropez's last break was the fact that he put on 20 pounds of muscle while rehabbing from his previous surgery. He even touted the weight gain and said it was the only upside to sitting out. It made him absolutely unstoppable for the couple months we had him, but in hindsight...
Well he's staying lean now.
Yeah you need muscle and strength but tall people either gotta deal with foot or back issues. Weight will compound either terribly.
Well he's staying lean now.As he should honestly unless you guys want more problems.
By Sharp Go To PostTwo foot surgeries pretty much mean he's done for sure, right? I'm thinking of baseball, where a single Tommy John surgery is usually fine, but two means you're fucked for life.
for big men? yeah... but he is 20 so there might be hope
By Sharp Go To PostAre here any examples of basketball players who have had two consecutive foot surgeries without playing a game, and gone on to have productive careers? I really hope the answer is "yes," because I would also like to see him play.He's played a lot of Basketball really. Just no NBA.
And no, there isn't. Because it's not a "common" injury in young players. Brook/Durant are the only two I can think of. And Durant is basically going through similar stuff.
I think Embiid should be fine,given the conservative nature philly are taking.
By Moris Go To PostSome point between the beginning of April and now he was brought in for an evaluation and despite him saying he felt better than ever doctors said his foot wasn't healing as projected and now this.
My understanding is that philly was making him go to fortnightly / monthly checkups regardless of what anyone was saying. Which is smart.
By giririsss Go To PostHe's played a lot of Basketball really. Just no NBA.MJ broke his foot his second season into the NBA.
And no, there isn't. Because it's not a "common" injury in young players. Brook/Durant are the only two I can think of. And Durant is basically going through similar stuff.
I think Embiid should be fine,given the conservative nature philly are taking.
By giririsss Go To PostHe's played a lot of Basketball really. Just no NBA.To be clear, I meant "two consecutive surgeries with no games in between," not that the player had never played a game. I guess Durant is an example, but... he hasn't actually come back yet.
By reilo Go To PostDurant most definitely came back early and played some games after initially breaking his foot.Yep. Which is sorta scary long term. He's a big dude too (tall).
You really can't fuck around with feet injuries :|
By db Go To PostMJ broke his foot his second season into the NBA.it's the kiss of death for big men
all that torque and weight on them little bones
By blackace Go To Postit's the kiss of death for big menYeah. Complicated piece of machinery too, the foot is.
all that torque and weight on them little bones
By db Go To PostYeah. Complicated piece of machinery too, the foot is.most people can't even draw feet correctly, imo.
By K@do Go To Postmost people can't even draw feet correctly, imo.Those and hands, uggggggggh.
By RATHasReturned Go To PostJesus
Also,
That's the face of a man who's too scared to look anywhere but straight ahead.
I'd have put my shades on and try not to strain an eye-socket lookin sideways... :|
LAS VEGAS – “So, what are your thoughts on DeAndre Jordan now?”******* ****** officially doesn't exist anymore.
"Who?" Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban told Yahoo Sports.
“DeAndre Jordan … now?”
"It's over. You move on. [Expletive] happens," Cuban said.
Q: Do you need a face-to-face apology from [DeAndre] Jordan?
Cuban: Why would I care? That's it. Who were you talking about?
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/q-a--mavs-owner-mark-cuban-on-deandre-jordan---who---213713428.html
By SamuraiX- Go To Post******* ****** officially doesn't exist anymore.lol what a child. Cuban doing his best to make me side against him on this one.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/q-a--mavs-owner-mark-cuban-on-deandre-jordan---who---213713428.html
By Sharp Go To Postlol what a child. Cuban doing his best to make me side against him on this one.Eh, I think it's a way of making sure the next press guy doesn't ask him about it.