By giririsss Go To PostRondo didn't like the free flowing style of dallas's offense. They don't call a ton of pre-defined plays. He regularly used to argue with carlisle about it. That they needed more set plays, needed to call more of them too.
I don't think he'll like George Karl much then...
Very possible. Not sure what will happen. Everyone is sure it will go terribly, but Karl's system does involve the PG a bit more. If Rondo doesn't work, Collison is perfectly capable and had a really good season last year.
Yahoo Sources: As Lakers work to clear cap space to sign free agents and absorb HIbbert, Nick Young is a strong candidate to be unloaded.
Aww man
By etiolation Go To PostCollison is perfectly capable and had a really good season last year.Did you see his reaction on Twitter?
Also when things go bad with Rondo they don't go bad in a way where you bench him quietly and sweep it all under the rug; they get explosive. Your team is already a powder keg. If you think things can't get worse...
Why would Khloe do that?
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With Lou they must think he can jack shots and make than the Swaggy one. I don't know the stats, but 6th man award probably backs that up.
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With Lou they must think he can jack shots and make than the Swaggy one. I don't know the stats, but 6th man award probably backs that up.
LA has a decent amount of leverage in the Lin to Dallas discussion. I want Justin Anderson and/or a future first (they owe Boston, so it couldn't be conveyed for like 5 years)
By RATHasReturned Go To PostWhy would Khloe do that?He's got Taco Bell Breakfast Morning Burrito money dude.
By Forever Go To PostDid you see his reaction on Twitter?
Yeah, and that's the first chemistry issue. Rondo, Boogie and Gay will get along. Fuck, Rondo and Boogie can bond over hate stories.
It's more of a chemistry issues with the guys who were a part of the 9-6 start last year and who thought they could do it again without coaching drama going on. That's Casspi and Collison, who were both good additions to chemistry last year.
If DC asks for a trade then Rondo is immediately not worth it.
Jesus the Lakers starting lineup could be D'Angelo/Kobe/Swaggy/Bass/Hibbert.
Hibbs gonna have to put in some insane amount of overtime defending the rim.
Hibbs gonna have to put in some insane amount of overtime defending the rim.
There's like a 90% chance Rondo is a terrible acquisition for Sac Town, don't say we didn't warn you.
You forget that Dallas had a squad of good shooters and Rondo couldn't make it work, put a strangle hold on that offense.
You forget that Dallas had a squad of good shooters and Rondo couldn't make it work, put a strangle hold on that offense.
By cloudy Go To PostAww manBye swag.
Mitch US zeroIng on Justin Anderson
Not really sure what LA's endgame is. These are the type of signings you do to fill out a contending roster..not a tank roster.
By etiolation Go To PostYeah, and that's the first chemistry issue. Rondo, Boogie and Gay will get along. Fuck, Rondo and Boogie can bond over hate stories.Forget DC, if this upcoming season descends into clownfuckery for the second year in a row you'll have to worry about losing DMC sooner than later.
It's more of a chemistry issues with the guys who were a part of the 9-6 start last year and who thought they could do it again without coaching drama going on. That's Casspi and Collison, who were both good additions to chemistry last year.
If DC asks for a trade then Rondo is immediately not worth it.
By K@do Go To PostBye swag.
Mitch US zeroIng on Justin Anderson
I think if the Lakers ask for Anderson, the Mavs hang up the phone. They can't trade this guy already...
By knux-future Go To PostNot really sure what LA's endgame is. These are the type of signings you do to fill out a contending roster..not a tank roster.
Mitch has been adamant that he only makes moves to improve the roster and will never tank....even if it's to slightly improve a tank squad, he'll do it.
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostMitch has been adamant that he only makes moves to improve the roster and will never tank....even if it's to slightly improve a tank squad, he'll do it.He should probably be fired then.
By joefu Go To PostI think if the Lakers ask for Anderson, the Mavs hang up the phone. They can't trade this guy already...When was the last time Dallas developed someone, just give him and you'll get a average starting PG like you've always wanted.
By Forever Go To PostHe should probably be fired then.Meh, when was the last time all-out tanking actually helped in the long run?
By knux-future Go To PostNot really sure what LA's endgame is. These are the type of signings you do to fill out a contending roster..not a tank roster.They are not tanking. It's much easier to get free agents to come when you are a 30 win team with promising young players than a bottom 3 team.
Enjoy your pick next season.
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostThere's like a 90% chance Rondo is a terrible acquisition for Sac Town, don't say we didn't warn you.
You forget that Dallas had a squad of good shooters and Rondo couldn't make it work, put a strangle hold on that offense.
Would Rondo be a good acquisition for anyone? I keep struggling to understand his appeal. Are teams just more likely to pick an FA up or trade for a somewhat known rather a complete unknown?
It makes sense.
If you're in a big market like LA/NY/Chicago, you're not really allowed to blatantly tank unless star players get injured.
If you're in a big market like LA/NY/Chicago, you're not really allowed to blatantly tank unless star players get injured.
I don't really understand the concept of tanking. I mean I get it but it just seems like a waste of the talent you currently have.
By Forever Go To PostHe should probably be fired then.
He put together a repeat champion squad after losing Shaq, I think he should probably keep his job.
By db Go To PostWould Rondo be a good acquisition for anyone? I keep struggling to understand his appeal. Are teams just more likely to pick an FA up or trade for a somewhat known rather a complete unknown?
The NBA fits his play style less and less every year and he has gotten worse at the few things he was good at. Every team is worse off paying him than they are gambling on an unknown
By Sharp Go To PostMeh, when was the last time all-out tanking actually helped in the long run?
Right, but not tanking this year means they surrender their 2016 pick to the 76ers and they owe a first round pick to the Magic in 2018 (becomes a 2018 second rounder if they don't surrender a 2016 pick to the 76ers).
The two teams in the Finals this year have also tanked more shamelessly than any non-Hinkie team.
By db Go To PostI don't really understand the concept of tanking. I mean I get it but it just seems like a waste of the talent you currently have.
Sometimes you don't have any current talent and FAs avoid you like the plague, it's a bit cyclical but by steering into it in theory you get top tier rookie prospects who can turn your franchise around. All you need is great franchise players to make your team enticing to join.
It's misery while it's occurring to your team tho, knux ain't even alive right now
By SamuraiX- Go To PostIf you're in a big market like LA/NY/Chicago, you're not really allowed to blatantly tank unless star players get injured.Phil just did it.
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostHe put together a repeat champion squad after losing Shaq, I think he should probably keep his job.Times change. Ask Joe Dumars.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostRight, but not tanking this year means they surrender their 2016 pick to the 76ers and they owe a first round pick to the Magic in 2018 (becomes a 2018 second rounder if they don't surrender a 2016 pick to the 76ers).They are not planning on getting a high lottery pick in 2018. You can't expect any team to tank 3 more seasons. That's insane unless you're the 76ers.
The two teams in the Finals this year have also tanked more shamelessly than any non-Hinkie team.
There's also no guarantee they will keep their pick next season. Ask the Knicks.
By Forever Go To PostPhil just did it.
Times change. Ask Joe Dumars.
He traded trash for Ariza, trash for Pau, trash for Dwight, a mediocre package for CP3....I think he has earned some job security.
By knux-future Go To PostNot really sure what LA's endgame is. These are the type of signings you do to fill out a contending roster..not a tank roster.Pretty clear Mitch isn't tanking.surrounding our rookies with veterans is a really wise move. Now stfu and take our pick.
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostSometimes you don't have any current talent and FAs avoid you like the plague, it's a bit cyclical but by steering into it in theory you get top tier rookie prospects who can turn your franchise around. All you need is great franchise players to make your team enticing to join.
It's misery while it's occurring to your team tho, knux ain't even alive right now
Well you can't turn over all 12 players really is my point. So you're doing a disservice to ones who just need some experience under the belt. I guess I just think a lot of NBA shit is counter-intuitive, every era, despite whatever kind of play was in vogue, the best teams didn't necessarily start out powerhouses, they grew into them. Now you just have people leaving or teams shuffling when they don't reach and win the Finals.
By pkaz01 Go To PostIts crappy to overpay for Chandler and miss out on Aldridge, but it theoretically puts them on the map for big free agents. Last year it was Lebron (shared agent with Bledsoe), this year Aldridge, eventually someone will bite. Still have a lot of young players and tradeable bargain contracts. And I don't think McD is done yet by any means.Suns were never getting LBJ.
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostHe traded trash for Ariza, trash for Pau, trash for Dwight, a mediocre package for CP3....I think he has earned some job security.Why do you not like the moves he made though? You know they have to sign somebody. These are all pieces that are easily moveable. If shit hits the fan Mitch and do a lot of trades by mid season.
I pains me to say it but I think the moves the Knicks and Lakers made after striking out were pretty solid
By knux-future Go To PostNot really sure what LA's endgame is. These are the type of signings you do to fill out a contending roster..not a tank roster.
We have no first-round pick in 2016 (or 2018. That Nash trade was horrendous!). What would we be tanking for? Best thing is to field a competitive team that's attractive to 2016 FAs.
tanking should only be done to develop players... tanking only for the first pick is never a good move imo
By DY_nasty Go To PostTanking DOES work.
And Mitch has earned a bad off-season or two tbh
has it worked for the Hornets?
By IWMTB19 Go To PostRight, but not tanking this year means they surrender their 2016 pick to the 76ers and they owe a first round pick to the Magic in 2018 (becomes a 2018 second rounder if they don't surrender a 2016 pick to the 76ers).
The two teams in the Finals this year have also tanked more shamelessly than any non-Hinkie team.
We won 21 games last year with tons of injuries and had just the 4th worst record. There is no way we'll be bad enough to keep that pick unless we have players out there shaving points..
By blackace Go To Posthas it worked for the Hornets?
By IWMTB19 Go To PostRight, but not tanking this year means they surrender their 2016 pick to the 76ers and they owe a first round pick to the Magic in 2018 (becomes a 2018 second rounder if they don't surrender a 2016 pick to the 76ers).The Cavs, at least, were absurdly lucky (getting a number one pick with the eighth seed?) and don't really represent a model you can easily follow, IMO.
The two teams in the Finals this year have also tanked more shamelessly than any non-Hinkie team.
Granted about the 2016 pick, but if the Lakers are still tanking in 2018 Hinkie-style it's safe to say they already lost.
By blackace Go To Posttanking should only be done to develop players... tanking only for the first pick is never a good move imoI think you need two reasons to tank, and not JUST that pick. Yeah.
Tanking cause you're playing a lot of youth, to see what you got / develop them. Fine.
Tanking cause you're blowing up a team for some chemistry/injury problem that ruined it. Fine.
Tanking cause #lottery. Bad.
By blackace Go To Posthas it worked for the Hornets?we could've stayed with felton, wallace, jackson
that would've been cool
By RATHasReturned Go To PostThe endgame is making the playoffs.LOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
The Lakers not tanking in 2018 still leads to a pick between 8 and 20 most likely and that's still valuable to surrender. I don't expect them to tank in 2018, but I still expect them to give up a top 12 pick.
By psychintellect Go To PostLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL8th seed brah. Shock the world.
By cloudy Go To PostWe won 21 games last year with tons of injuries and had just the 4th worst record. There is no way we'll be bad enough to keep that pick unless we have players out there shaving points..And all the teams worse than the Lakers will be better. They could have easily been bad enough.