By DY_nasty Go To Postplus i don't think rubio is complete shit yetThey're just a better team with him. The offense is better, the defense is a lot better, the idea that he's bad because he can't shoot is crazy. It's so myopic.
Yeah, maybe it matters a lot in a playoff series, but isn't that putting the cart way before the horse when they haven't got there in 11 years? Rubio is their best overall, two-way player. It's not his fault and it's not easy to replace someone as good as him.
I don't think he's shit rodeo. I'm just jaded. I measure PGs and team PG situations using Kemba Walker and Charlotte. The definition of a middling PG and "we can't move him" situation.
Rubio's situation is slightly better while being a good degree better than Kemba.
Rubio's situation is slightly better while being a good degree better than Kemba.
By Moris Go To Post2011-2014They wouldn't even need LBJ if they were smart. Now he's got that org by the sack all over again
Cavs could have drafted an amazing squad
By Moris Go To PostKyrie/IT5th seed this year, top 2 next season. In the East.
Klay
Wiggins/Khris MIddleton
Draymond
Noel/Gobert
like…:whoa:
It's absurd to fault them for not finding all that talent.
but as it stand they only hit with #1 overall in Kyrie which is fucking crazy
basically the current Cavs roster but with Nerlens Noel.
but as it stand they only hit with #1 overall in Kyrie which is fucking crazy
By DY_nasty Go To Postshit like… imagine if they just hadn't wasted a pick on bennett alone
basically the current Cavs roster but with Nerlens Noel.
GS had 4 of their starter from their pick is the real story here, they about to achieve what OKC should.
By fertygo Go To PostGS had 4 of their starter from their pick is the real story here, they about to achieve what OKC should.That is a good point.
Also, the bulls have a more fucked up PG situation than charlotte. i just now thought about this.
We only got lucky having that many picks after trading away all our picks years prior to 2011/2012 drafts.
Out of the ~8 players we got those 2 years, only half really panned out and are still here. We don't even know how Barnes and Green would have panned out had they not regained their confidence with the new coach and had veteran mentorship.
We had no picks in 2013/2014.
Imagine what the Celtics can do with their picks if they choose not to trade them...
Out of the ~8 players we got those 2 years, only half really panned out and are still here. We don't even know how Barnes and Green would have panned out had they not regained their confidence with the new coach and had veteran mentorship.
We had no picks in 2013/2014.
Imagine what the Celtics can do with their picks if they choose not to trade them...
By DY_nasty Go To PostThat is a good point.Derrick will return being an all-star next year breh
Also, the bulls have a more fucked up PG situation than charlotte. i just now thought about this.
But seriously tho as shitty its looked on paper at least Thibs always manage our PG situation decently and its always crapshoot between 2 game, either they hot or not.. we could do worse.
By fertygo Go To PostDerrick will return being an all-star next year brehrose could either be an all-star next year or hit your fo with a "i am larry sanders" swerve and be done before game 7
But seriously tho as shitty its looked on paper at least Thibs always manage our PG situation decently and its always crapshoot between 2 game, either they hot or not.. we could do worse.
I want Rose to be back...but my mind says otherwise. I just hope he makes it through this postseason in one piece....getting styled on by MCW is a bad look tho
michael can't win should never be getting buckets on you in the playoffs
i mean are you even trying rose
i mean are you even trying rose
How long Sacramento Kings been bad. Feel like they been bad all decade. You knew Cavs organization wasnt going to be shit when they drafted Dion Waiters
By fertygo Go To PostNice, more good candidate available for our coach.With how hard we're competing in the playoffs I'm afraid Hollins is here to stay.
It'll be interesting to see who wins the Mike Malone sweepstakes.
By DY_nasty Go To PostHe's gonna use up an NBA team like OKC then run back to a better situation in college as a desperate, big name school rolls out the red carpet for him
(Hope he goes to OKC for 3 years - Roy Williams should be fired by then and Donovan can come in and save us)
hubert davis future breh. it's already written.
:/
http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2015/04/29/playoff-sweep-ruins-ujiris-pitch-to-free-agents/
When it comes to on-court success, the Raptors have one of the worst track records in the NBA, highlighted again this week when they once more failed to win a seven-game series, instead succumbing listlessly to a lower-seeded Washington Wizards team in four games.
The fallout from that series is going to have far deeper repercussions than it seems like anyone wants to talk about right now. People are obsessed with using these Playoffs as a referendum on the past; this past season, Dwane Casey’s past transgressions as a coach and Masai Ujiri’s past decisions as a roster builder. The past, though, is in the past, and the real ramifications that Toronto’s postseason embarrassment will have is on the future — namely Toronto’s longstanding issue of attracting coveted talent to their beleaguered franchise.
After all, if you’re a popular free agent, or a trade target for multiple teams, what is it about the Raptors that would have you excited about signing up? What about that organization says that it’s worth a multi-year investment as a player over the several other options that they’ll have? One can crow about how poorly the Lakers have fared since Phil Jackson left, but that’s still a braintrust that has built Champions, whereas no one in Toronto has ever done so much as win a seven-game series (that includes Casey and Ujiri, by the way, in their respective positions as head coach and general manager).
Look at how readily the Raptors players cast blame for the failures of the club once the season unceremoniously concluded. No one was exactly selling the narrative that that was a locker room people should be clamouring to join. There was finger-pointing, there was coach-killing and there was a general refusal on anyone’s part to truly shoulder blame. They may feel like they are only a piece or two away from making some noise, but they did a terrible job of selling what they have on those course-altering pieces. Looking at the sniping coming out of that Monday afternoon would give anyone pause about signing up to join that foxhole.
Ujiri has done a good job of positioning the Raptors financially (a fact he was sure to point out at his press conference in Tuesday), but that won’t matter if the company he’s trying to sell people on looks too flawed to join. Last year the idea was that the Raptors were an ascendant team, one that could attract a star, or even a superstar, with the idea that they’d put the Raptors over the top. That narrative was destroyed by the Washington series. Instead they are a team with some money to spend (although it should be noted, not as much as several other teams) but a bad image to overcome. Ujiri wanted to avoid making short-term decisions when it came to contracts so that he had maximum flexibility when he was ready to spend, but he risk he took was that the product he was selling players on was going to remain an attractive one. He was always realistic about what the ceiling was for this group, but he seemed unaware of how far down the floor extended. Clearly this club plummeted far deeper than he ever anticipated they would, and it has made his job as a recruiter exponentially more difficult this summer.
Ujiri’s product is flawed, and is totally in keeping with the club’s history of an inability to build upon mild successes. That’s a hard story to overcome when selling your franchise on difference-making players. Yes, the Playoffs proved all the doubters right about what this team was last year, but the real damage is how it might prevent the club from getting better going forward. A lot of the euphoria over last year’s success was that it seemed like the Raptors were finally on an ascendant path, with new highs finally within sight. After the disaster against Washington the Raptors couldn’t have looked more familiar, and they’ll enter the summer — once again — as a club that has to do as much begging as selling if they want the kind of talent that will right the ship going forward.
By DY_nasty Go To Postwelcome, #ripcityI'm thankful you kept the seats warm over a month ago. *dap*
By giririsss Go To PostCousins to newyork? stop fronting like you like DMC, dynasty. You're an absolute fucking asshole.i always liked dmc :o
There's a chance we'll look back on Cousins as one of the biggest wasted talents ever.
Thanks Sacramento.
(Although he's still only 24. Damn, I had no idea he was that young.)
Thanks Sacramento.
(Although he's still only 24. Damn, I had no idea he was that young.)
By Diprosalic Go To Postso for Clips it's either max DJ or nothing, unless someone agrees to a sign and trade.Apparently the Mavs really want him. A sign-and-trade with Tyson Chandler is possible I guess.
:/
By Branduil Go To PostApparently the Mavs really want him. A sign-and-trade with Tyson Chandler is possible I guess.
honestly is a sign and trade for Tyson a bad move for the clippers if Tyson is healthy?.... CP and Tyson were great together before and Tyson can usually hit his FT's and they might be able to get some picks for their trouble.....maybe even aminu for salary matching reasons.
RT @WojYahooNBA: Yahoo Sources w/ @YahooForde: Florida's Billy Donovan is finalizing a multi-year deal to become the head coach of the Oklahoma City Thunder.
ok somebody break down Billy Donovan. I don't fuck with college hoops much so i only know him from those 2 title teams. Is he really better than brooks? Does he have a system or tendency with the teams he had?
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To Postok somebody break down Billy Donovan. I don't fuck with college hoops much so i only know him from those 2 title teams. Is he really better than brooks? Does he have a system or tendency with the teams he had?Asked this question in the NCAAB thread on NeoGAF yesterday:
You can expect a damn fine college basketball coach. As an NBA coach? Yet to be determined.His defenses have been dominant in recent years, and apparently he really embraces analytics, which was always a sticking point with Brooks. Hopefully that means that guys like Waiters will see their minutes reduced or even eliminated.
Billy's offense likes to run a lot of ball screens so it takes some time to learn on the college level. Also he needs a floor general, a point guard who can distribute and get other players involved. If you don't have a good, dependable point guard (see Wilbekin) then you get what the Gators had this past season with Chiozza and Hill. Also his offense on the college level needs a good center to kick it down low to draw the defense in and have open shooters at the perimeter which the Gators also lacked this past season so that teams can't simply zone the Gators out (which normally the Gators can shoot the defense out of but again this past season's team lack perimeter shooters). Billy's college basketball teams are team orientated, one player may go off one night but then the next night someone else will go off. There are typically no ball hogs on Billy's teams.
Anyway, Billy is a very good coach and can adapt if needed. We shall see if he does become the OKC coach how this will all pan out. I hate to lose him as a Gator fan, but hope he does well if he does go to the NBA. I'd hate to see him fizzle out in NBA and then come back and coach Kentucky to multiple national titles *shudder* If he does go to the NBA but returns to college basketball hopefully he'd help replace Pitino at Louisville and be a thorn in UK's side for many, many years. ;-)
By KingGondo Go To PostAsked this question in the NCAAB thread on NeoGAF yesterday:
His defenses have been dominant in recent years, and apparently he really embraces analytics, which was always a sticking point with Brooks. Hopefully that means that guys like Waiters will see their minutes reduced or even eliminated.
That's interesting. He sounds like on paper the exact coach you guys need.
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostThat's interesting. He sounds like on paper the exact coach you guys need.One of my gripes with the Thunder has been that our defense allows too many threes and isn't concerned about stopping penetration because we have the luxury of Serge waiting around the basket.
This works reasonably well when we're all healthy, but it requires us to fly around the floor and exert a lot of energy to close out shooters. There's no reason we can't play smarter and be just as effective considering our personnel.
Honestly, this team has room to improve simply by adjusting rotations. We won 59 games two years ago with Russ missing a ton of games, Fisher getting major minutes and with Caron Butler coming off the bench. We won 60 the previous year with Thabo and Perk starting and getting major minutes.
If our personnel is utilized effectively, there's no reason 60 games shouldn't be the minimum expectation next season.
By Adrian WojnarowskiOklahoma City has hired Billy Donovan as coach, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.5-year deal.
By psychintellect Go To PostRegardless of their regular season win total OKC's roster is so ready to chip its not even funny.
The only thing that could screw it up are injuries or reaching on an unproven, unqualified coach.
By Moris Go To PostThe only thing that could screw it up are injuries or reaching on an unproven, unqualified coach.lol
Y'all are acting like it's gonna take a miracle for Billy to succeed here.
There are very few guys who don't carry risks. I'd personally rather try someone new than a retread.
There are very few guys who don't carry risks. I'd personally rather try someone new than a retread.
Billy is qualified, just not what I'd have went for in OKC's situation. Regardless though I expect OKC to be good barring injury. I'm more concerned with Ibakas health than anything else.
TBF sans Phil Jackson or Pat Riley walking through that door...there weren't many great options...so why not reach for the unknown? Lets not act like Steve Kerr didn't just step into GS and has them contending, he never coached in his life.