By AlphaSnacks Go To Post While the Knicks have a 25% shot at the 1st pick...they also have a 75% chance of not getting 1st. LOL
The worst team is a lot more likely to pick 4th than first. The lottery rules suck and there needs to some kind of change to get teams help that actually need it. Instead, the league is trying to even out lottery odds, which is so not the answer.
By rodeoclown Go To PostThe worst team is a lot more likely to pick 4th than first. The lottery rules suck and there needs to some kind of change to get teams help that actually need it. Instead, the league is trying to even out lottery odds, which is so not the answer.
No one has any idea who the "worst" team is when teams are tanking. That's the point. Was NY the worst team in the league coming into the season? Should they be rewarded with a 1st overall pick simply because they shut Melo down and freed up tons of cap space trading away any assets worth a damn?
Should Philly be rewarded for drafting players and then shelfing them till they're 23 and trading away ROTY players for nothing but more picks?
Should LAL be rewarded because they paid a super high salary to an injury prone aging superstar who again has to miss most of the season?
The entire system is bullshit because teams are exploiting the system. There's not a team in the bottom 4 right now that's there only because they're pure shit. They're there because they've done things on purpose to be pure shit
Teams need to hold GM's and scouting departments to more accountability as well. Lately, there's been a lot of 2nd round picks that have become big pieces for teams. And we've seen legit all-stars come from mid first round picks also. Yea, getting a top pick helps, but the 2nd overall has missed probably as much as its hit lately, and it all comes down to teams being able to make wise decisions in the drafting room.
I think you're too hard on your team. This is a competitive business with only 30 people. There isn't a GM in the league that's great at every facet.
Riley hasn't drafted a gem since Wade. Buford hasn't signed a free agent of any note in decades or performed any hugely significant trades of stars or superstars. Presti seemingly can't do anything except draft. Morey swung the bat 500 times before he landed anyone of note either in the draft or through trades. Mitch is decent at a lot of things but can't sustain success without going through full blown rebuilds.
And those are the good ones.
Your team isn't great at drafting but has done things well enough to rebuild from the Arenas disaster to a top 6 EC team for years to come.
Yea. Potentially turned down Harden for Beal as well.
It's honestly like...say whatever the fuck you want to me about basketball, but saying I'm too hard on this FO? I mean thank god I'm at work right now or I'd be catching a ban.
I know you mad phaze, but getting Nene was a good move. Gortat has worked out well.
The Wiz drafted poorly, but so did the Grizz. I could argue the Grizz drafted far worse than the Wizards. It's stuff like trading for Sessions and not getting enough out of the little pickups that hurt the Wizards.
I worry about Russell as a PG. Don't think he is a true PG and I worry about him getting by anyone. Great shooter and passer as a whole but he looked mad average anytime he faced competant defenders. Now mind you this could be moreso on his team being assssss outside of him but still. Its worrysome.
Real talk? I wouldn't mind getting owned by the tank gods and falling to 5...I have begun to like Mario and Winslow a lot more than the two PGs and I rather not give Hinkie ammo to trade Noel or Embiid because we have a Towns or Okafor (not to mention they are worse fits with Noel or Embiid...Okafor especially...).
INb4 we win the lottery and take Poringiz.
I really hope Clarkson keeps up his pace. From the sound of it, other teams barely know he exists, so I don't expect him to face tough defense until next season at the earliest. Randolph went up to his former teammate Ed Davis after Clarkson lit up Conley and asked "who is this guy?"
If he doesn't regress, a PG that can give you 15-5-5 on 49% shooting would be amazing. Could mean we get the added bonus of staying away from Dragic and Rondo since we might have a guy who matches their production at like 1/20th of their cost next year.
Not sold on Mudiay and I think it becomes an unwise choice if the FO believes in Clarkson, but Russell at the 2 might be a good option alongside Clarkson/Randle, the passing could be awesome.
I'll revist my original (tongue in cheek) post with a little more seriousness.
Clarkson for Exum...who says no. lol.
I expect the Kings to go after Dragic and Rondo. Don't know how they'd swing it or why either would come here. Failing that, they'll go after Ty Lawson in trade.
The thing is that I really liked Collison. His personality balanced out the rest of the squad and he actually cares about defense.
By knux-future Go To PostI worry about Russell as a PG. Don't think he is a true PG and I worry about him getting by anyone. Great shooter and passer as a whole but he looked mad average anytime he faced competant defenders. Now mind you this could be moreso on his team being assssss outside of him but still. Its worrysome.
I've never thought of Russell as a point guard, definitely a 2 that could handle it some. I think with his shooting, he'd be awesome next to Rubio.
By Vahagn Go To PostMorey swung the bat 500 times before he landed anyone of note either in the draft or through trades.
And those are the good ones.
Don't even try it.
By rodeoclown Go To PostI've never thought of Russell as a point guard, definitely a 2 that could handle it some. I think with his shooting, he'd be awesome next to Rubio.
yesh but wiggins and k mart are 2's. If there is a team out there that should pick okafor flaws and all its the wolves they got pek to hide his flaws and need his inside scoring.
Morey just had one of the worst off season ever dawg. Wiggins is a 3, you don't pass up on Russell cause of Kevin fucking martin.
By Vahagn Go To PostI'll revist my original (tongue in cheek) post with a little more seriousness.
Clarkson for Exum...who says no. lol.
That stopped being a possibility like two months ago. Exum is still really young, but he is looking quite bust-y.
By Moris Go To PostMorey just had one of the worst off season ever dawg.
He made up for it with the mid-season acquistitions at least.
By knux-future Go To Post Pek and Okafor is an awful pairing. Neither can step out that far and Pek isn't exactly a stopper...The Wolves need Towns
With our luck the Wolves will get him. For years the division was ass besides us and Portland and all of a sudden Utah and Minny look somewhat promising. At least there's always Denver to beat up on.
I'd rather have that than play in a joke division, but things never seem to get easier in the West in general.
Playoff realignment needs to happen ASAP. It'll be good for the game.
By knux-future Go To Post Pek and Okafor is an awful pairing. Neither can step out that far and Pek isn't exactly a stopper...The Wolves need Towns
Pekovic isn't a bad defender. He's quite good on the pick and roll, for example. He's just not a rim protector and the generally poor perimeter defense leads to people getting layups on him and such.
Towns would be the perfect fit, but I'd love Russell, too. Then we'd just try to outscore everybody.
People out here forgetting that it took 50 wins to make the west playoffs even in 09 and 10 and back in the early 2000's the WCF was the defacto finals.
it's been this competitive in the west and lopsided interconference for a long long time. The sky isn't falling
Phil said in a press conference today that he knows who he would pick today in the draft.
Okafor is gonna be lookin sweet in that Knix jersey.
By Moris Go To PostPhil said in a press conference today that he knows who he would pick today in the draft.
Okafor is gonna be lookin sweet in that Knix jersey.
He's more NBA ready than Towns. They should definitely take him.
By rodeoclown Go To PostHe's more NBA ready than Towns. They should definitely take him.
I agree, Rondo-THJ-Melo-Bargnani-Okafor
That's a solid squad right there.
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Y'all think this tank shit is a fuckin game?
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By Moris Go To PostI agree, Rondo-THJ-Melo-Bargnani-Okafor
That's a solid squad right there.
Prepare for your Lin-Kobe-Randle-Love-Cauly Stein laker future breh.....its going to be ugly
And if the wolves have the first pick I see them getting okafor. They got a youth core with a potential star in Wiggins. If they can add inside scoring they could turn it around a whole lot quicker.
Lin got treated like trash here, he ain't sticking around. Kevin Love ain't stupid enough to pass up that money either.
At worst it'll be Clarkson-Kobe-Wes-Randle-Hill Young/Black and our pick to Philly.
Strong 11th seed right there bruh
So after reading the notes from the Phil Jackson Townhall. For the first time as a knicks fan I actually believe the knicks have competent FO leadership. Phil said things like lets NOT trade the pick for short term gains, and lets NOT get oneitis for a FA who doesn't want to play for the knicks and lets get player who DO play defense.
Its like they're a whole new organization.
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To PostSo after reading the notes from the Phil Jackson Townhall. For the first time as a knicks fan I actually believe the knicks have competent FO leadership. Phil said things like lets NOT trade the pick for short term gains, and lets NOT get oneitis for a FA who doesn't want to play for the knicks and lets get player who DO play defense.
Its like they're a whole new organization.
Theres a comprehensive set of notes? Where at?
riegarding winslow -- hnfi
tell me the last prospect who shot so well on threes and so bad on free throws with high sample sizes for both? i've gotta take a much closer look at him to really get an idea
By Vahagn Go To PostTheres a comprehensive set of notes? Where at?
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50846 check the post from s3231 on page 2. He was at the town hall and basically is the only source for what was said. Its a long read
By knux-future Go To Post Pek and Okafor is an awful pairing. Neither can step out that far and Pek isn't exactly a stopper...The Wolves need Towns
You're under the impression that Pek and Okafor would play along side each other. Pek is done as a starter. I see him playing 20 mins from here on out. He's going to have surgery on his Achilles btw.
I mean, yeah, I'm really worried about Pekovic. He's had ankle problems going back two or three years now, with a couple of surgeries and now he has an achilles problem they never mentioned.
I don't know that he's done. I don't want him to be, I love the guy, but it's a real concern.
But I still don't like Okafor.
By Zeus Ex Machina Go To Posthttp://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50846" target="_blank">http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50846 check the post from s3231 on page 2. He was at the town hall and basically is the only source for what was said. Its a long read
There's some clown on that forum adament that Phil is going to draft Willie Stein.
By Vahagn Go To PostThere's some clown on that forum adament that Phil is going to draft Willie Stein.
people accuse me of being optimistic/delusional but a shit ton of knicks fans on knick forums are air heads. A lot of them still cry for gallinari and lin
Cauley-Stein is really good and probably the only player who's close to contributing to wins now.
But he's obviously not going to go above Towns/Okafor/Russell.
By DominicanPower Go To PostYou're under the impression that Pek and Okafor would play along side each other. Pek is done as a starter. I see him playing 20 mins from here on out. He's going to have surgery on his Achilles btw.
Then it would make sense I guess. Didn't know that.
Regardless, you will need a stopper next to Okafor for the long term tho
Frank Isola hates on the Knicks so relentlessly even I got to ask him to chill.
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taking shots at any and all opportunities.
A team that had a guard rotation of JR, Shump, THJ, Calderon, Larkin gets another guard in the draft and lets Melo have no backups.
There's a reason media members shouldn't play armchair GM. Their trolling doesn't pass the most basic test of "what the fuck you talkin bout Willis"
JR and Shump were getting the boot. Larkin ain't shit and THJ is a 2guard.
More importantly no one thought much of Clarkson, he went 46th after all.
By Moris Go To PostJR and Shump were getting the boot. Larkin ain't shit and THJ is a 2guard.
More importantly no one thought much of Clarkson, he went 46th after all.
None of that was known in June. Larkin was promising, Clarkson is a combo guard, and they had a logjam at the 1 and 2. No reason to waste a late first round draft pick on your 6th or 7th guard when you have no backup SF's
Like 15% of second round picks turn out to be anything, if you're drafting for need over talent in the second round, you're already dead. It makes zero sense.
I think Clarkson was rated on par with Early, but seriously, if you pass on talent for need in the second-round, you're going to be scrapping the bottom of the barrel in terms of talent to the point where your guy is almost a certain bust.