By reilo Go To PostI get Ramona is an insider but it's quite clear she's getting the positive spin from the Lakers camp. Everyone else is contradicting her.Where are the contradicting quotes? I haven't seen em.
Ramona did not report Kobe wasn't an issue. But if the above was his response and that bothered LMA, I don't know what to say. Kobe didn't say anything offensive, there.
Maybe it was another question where an issue arose?
By SamuraiX- Go To Postwe don't like that nickname anymore? that's cooYea, we asked a while back for people to stop doing that. It's casually sexist in many ways and just outright insulting to Vahagn.
By Mamba Go To PostWhere are the contradicting quotes? I haven't seen em.That's the positive spin though on Kobe telling LaMarcus he'd be a second banana. Same story, different take on it. The contradicting reports are that Kobe didn't quite say it that nicely.
Ramona did not report Kobe wasn't an issue. But if the above was his response and that bothered LMA, I don't know what to say. Kobe didn't say anything offensive, there.
Maybe it was another question where an issue arose?
By reilo Go To PostThat's the positive spin though on Kobe telling LaMarcus he'd be a second banana. Same story, different take on it. The contradicting reports are that Kobe didn't quite say it that nicely.
Can you quote them? I posted Bres and Woj and nothing they said contradicts.
Maybe Kobe implied he'd be second banana. I don't know.
As I said, Lakers striking out with win now FA's isn't relevant. We're not in a place to win now. We're trying to build from scratch.
All it does is give anti Kobe people ammo to froth over.
To the point that guys lien DB would think a 5 time champion is a "complete liability and detriment to his team" because of his attitude.
All it does is give anti Kobe people ammo to froth over.
To the point that guys lien DB would think a 5 time champion is a "complete liability and detriment to his team" because of his attitude.
By KingGondo Go To PostHow much room would the Rox need to clear to sign LMA?
I dunno but LMA doesn't have a daughter, so that's a plus.
Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne 2m2 minutes ago
Ultimately Lakers don't really have much to offer free agents besides cap space and young players. That's why they keep striking out
Exactly what I've been saying.
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.@aldridge_12 has not made any decisions yet. All reports to the contrary are false & he looks forward to sharing his plans soon.
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By SamuraiX- Go To PostTo be fair, it was a really nice bean bag chair. One of those microbead ones.i cant lol
Honestly next offseason might be a whiff too if our young guys aren't who we hope they are and fast.
that's really all there is to it, until LA has a couple top 20 or so talents, free agents have haven't a clue whats in store for them if they sign.
By Mamba Go To PostExactly what I've been saying.
that's really all there is to it, until LA has a couple top 20 or so talents, free agents have haven't a clue whats in store for them if they sign.
By Vahagn Go To PostAs I said, Lakers striking out with win now FA's isn't relevant. We're not in a place to win now. We're trying to build from scratch.
All it does is give anti Kobe people ammo to froth over.
To the point that guys lien DB would think a 5 time champion is a "complete liability and detriment to his team" because of his attitude.
He isn't in ring winning worthy condition and right now, neither is the #LakeShow.
By Mamba Go To PostCan you quote them? I posted Bres and Woj and nothing they said contradicts.I mean, outright here...
Maybe Kobe implied he'd be second banana. I don't know.
RT @Mike_Bresnahan: More LMA: He and Kobe didn't quite gel. It's a little vague, but Aldridge apparently didn't quite get answers from Kobe he was seeking.
Like, what else could have Kobe said? If Aldridge asked Kobe "how do you envision this tandem working" and Kobe made it sound like he'd be chucking 25-30 shots a game, then that's Kobe saying "I'll be doing me".
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostHonestly next offseason might be a whiff too if our young guys aren't who we hope they are and fast.
see thats the part yall dont know about
picks bust
they really really do
By reilo Go To PostI mean, outright here…That doesn't contradict Ramona in any way.
RT @Mike_Bresnahan: More LMA: He and Kobe didn't quite gel. It's a little vague, but Aldridge apparently didn't quite get answers from Kobe he was seeking.
Like, what else could have Kobe said? If Aldridge asked Kobe "how do you envision this tandem working" and Kobe made it sound like he'd be chucking 25-30 shots a game, then that's Kobe saying "I'll be doing me".
If Kobe's answer was what Ramona posted, and LMA didn't like it, then fine. But the answer wasn't offensive is all I'm saying.
I'm not saying he didn't say he's gonna shoot a lot or whatever. Just saying there's no actual contradiction yet.
Jim should start going after cokehead players.
He can offer them much more than any other owner in the league.
And they can bond too, like Dr. Buss bonded with Magic over pussy.
He can offer them much more than any other owner in the league.
And they can bond too, like Dr. Buss bonded with Magic over pussy.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postsee thats the part yall dont know aboutI'm aware, I'm just hopeful. Russ and Randle could be Foye and TRob 2.0 and then LA is really fucked.
picks bust
they really really do
By db Go To PostPeople bring up past accomplishments in order to ignore the current reality.
Current reality is that a 20 year veteran broken down isn't good enough to attract win now superstars with rookie rosters.
No ones ignoring it, we're just not pretending Houston SAS and LAL are presenting equal basketball opportunities with Kobe's attitude being the only difference.
That's the delusion you seem to be arguing
replace Kobe with Danny Green and LMA isn't signing with the Lakers. Honestly, there's no way Kobe was any sort of deciding factor.
If LMA signed with LA it was because of the off court opportunities and willing to wait at least a year.
If LMA signed with LA it was because of the off court opportunities and willing to wait at least a year.
By Mamba Go To Postreplace Kobe with Danny Green and LMA isn't signing with the Lakers. Honestly, there's no way Kobe was any sort of deciding factor.
If LMA signed with LA it was because of the off court opportunities and willing to wait at least a year.
Are you gonna ignoring having to play with Kobe at least 1 season, possibly 2 if LA puts toget a good squad for him to piggyback on?
Kobe's rep is pretty shitty league wide right now and doesn't have the skills to offset it anymore. Be reality.
By Vahagn Go To PostCurrent reality is that a 20 year veteran broken down isn't good enough to attract win now superstars with rookie rosters.
No ones ignoring it, we're just not pretending Houston SAS and LAL are presenting equal basketball opportunities with Kobe's attitude being the only difference.
That's the delusion you seem to be arguing
Yes I created those tweets out of my ass.
Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne*yawn*
The Lakers pitches to free agents focus on their strengths as an organization: tradition, off court business & marketing, cap space
By vic Go To Post*yawn*
Seriously, players wants something tangible like their role in the offense and who they will be complimented by on the roster.
I mean, it's one thing to say "players don't want to come here because the roster is shitty", which is 100% true. BUT!! It's another thing to completely ignore the fact that it's shitty in huge part BECAUSE OF KOBE.
Also Reilo, I took that "answers" thing to be more about Kobe's future with LA. He's undecided about his future and I would imagine LMA or anyone would want to know if he's going to keep playing.
They may even want him to at a steep discount.
Lakers FO just needs to stay in their lane and stick to their plan. Slowly build, find pieces. Then make moves when we're playoff caliber instead of selling Hollywood and 27th seed's to players
They may even want him to at a steep discount.
Lakers FO just needs to stay in their lane and stick to their plan. Slowly build, find pieces. Then make moves when we're playoff caliber instead of selling Hollywood and 27th seed's to players
Aldridge go be straight up already so SAS can go after Gasol if Aldridge is off the table. We need answers.
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostAre you gonna ignoring having to play with Kobe at least 1 season, possibly 2 if LA puts toget a good squad for him to piggyback on?
Kobe's rep is pretty shitty league wide right now and doesn't have the skills to offset it anymore. Be reality.
No. I agree with you. But I don't think it affected LMA.
Kobe's presence, if anything, hurts with the middle tier FAs.
Your star player that's been in the league almost longer than your potential future star player has even been alive, telling the biggest FA on the market that he can be a sidekick if he comes to play for the team.
By reilo Go To PostI mean, it's one thing to say "players don't want to come here because the roster is shitty", which is 100% true. BUT!! It's another thing to completely ignore the fact that it's shitty in huge part BECAUSE OF KOBE.Are you saying the roster is shitty because of Kobe?
I don't think that's necessarily true. He hasn't helped, but I don't see a realistic scenario where the team would be in a much better place, otherwise.
By Mamba Go To PostNo. I agree with you. But I don't think it affected LMA.
Kobe's presence, if anything, hurts with the middle tier FAs.
In what ways would it hurt middle tier guys but not 30 year old LMA?
By Mamba Go To PostNo. I agree with you. But I don't think it affected LMA.sure it did.
Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan 6m6 minutes agothis tweet is pretty self explanatory.
More LMA: He and Kobe didn't quite gel. It's a little vague, but Aldridge apparently didn't quite get answers from Kobe he was seeking.
LMA wanted some answers.
Kobe didn't answer adequately.
LMA wasn't satisfied.
so you can't say kobe didn't affect his decision.
By vic Go To Post*yawn*
no playoffs means more time for extracurriculars
The Lakers being terrible is why LMA is not interested, not Kobe. However, offering the Pau example is hilarious.
Mainly because it translates to: "Get my rebounds and be blamed for every loss."
Mainly because it translates to: "Get my rebounds and be blamed for every loss."
By Omega Go To PostYour star player that's been in the league almost longer than your potential future star player has even been alive, telling the biggest FA on the market that he can be a sidekick if he comes to play for the team.At least Kobe wasn't lying.
Ian Begley @IanBegley
#Knicks have been in touch with forward Lance Thomas about a new deal, per sources. Spurs and Nets have also expressed interest in Thomas.[\quote]
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Only way I see LMA changing his mind is if they pick up RoLo but I dunno how that works money wise or if it can. I don't know shit about salaries and the cap.
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostIn what ways would it hurt middle tier guys but not 30 year old LMA?
Quickly, are there any answers Kobe could have given to convince LMA to come? I can't imagine any. If the answer is "no," then he had no effect.
By etiolation Go To PostThe Lakers being terrible is why LMA is not interested, not Kobe. However, offering the Pau example is hilarious.P much
Mainly because it translates to: "Get my rebounds and be blamed for every loss."
By db Go To PostOnly way I see LMA changing his mind is if they pick up RoLo but I dunno how that works money wise or if it can. I don't know shit about salaries and the cap.$23m in capspace, if the reports are true that there's an extra $2m for this year's cap, we'd have $25m to spend.
By reilo Go To PostI mean, it's one thing to say "players don't want to come here because the roster is shitty", which is 100% true. BUT!! It's another thing to completely ignore the fact that it's shitty in huge part BECAUSE OF KOBE.You're wrong. We've gone through this.
But I'm waiting for the "Spurs never sign FA's so no one likes Duncan or Pop's idgaf about you attitude".
It's all nonsense. Without Kawhi, who was a rookie trade, SA is all contemplating retirement now after a 8th straight disappointing end to the season.
We hired bad coaches, fired our scouts, didn't embrace Analytics, and are fielding a shitty team pitching Hollywood bright lights. That our problem
By Mamba Go To PostQuickly, are there any answers Kobe could have given to convince LMA to come? I can't imagine any. If the answer is "no," then he had no effect.maybe along the lines of, "this is your team now."
i'll be duncan, and you'll be my tony parker.
i dunno, something along that line of rhetoric would be more suitable.
By Vahagn Go To PostYou're wrong. We've gone through this.and kobe
But I'm waiting for the "Spurs never sign FA's so no one likes Duncan or Pop's idgaf about you attitude".
It's all nonsense. Without Kawhi, who was a rookie trade, SA is all contemplating retirement now after a 8th straight disappointing end to the season.
We hired bad coaches, fired our scouts, didn't embrace Analytics, and are fielding a shitty team pitching Hollywood bright lights. That our problem
seriously though, the lakers are in no position to attract big name FA who wants to win chips now when we're going through a youth movement.