Spurs suffering won't really happen until Pop is gone. As great as Duncan is, they could lose him, Ginobili, and Parker and still be contenders.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostLmao Spurs fans acting like they know suffering like Drake knows what "started from the bottom" is like.
Well they did miss the playoffs recently in 1996.
By ratcliffja Go To PostSpurs suffering won't really happen until Pop is gone. As great as Duncan is, they could lose him, Ginobili, and Parker and still be contenders.Lol no way. Duncan has been arguable their best player the last 3 or 4 years.
I'd raise you and say that the suffering will start when RC Buford steps down as GM. A replacement coach might do as well as Pop. Losing Buford means losing those system pieces and future smart drafts. The system and culture has been embedded into the team and others can succeed that.
Dunacan being a generational talent was huge for SA, I don't think Leonard can fill those shoes....I feel bad for whoever takes Pop's job when he retires
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostIf the Rockets are seriously in play, Aldridge would be a fool not to go thereRockets would be interesting. Seems like they'd have to renounce rights to everyone and then trade Ariza to be able to sign LMA.
Thought they may be able to keep one of Beverly or Smith if they dump Ariza. Haven't worked out the numbers.
harden, LMA, Dwight, Jones, Capella, Dorsey, DoMo, Room Exception, rookie(s), min contracts. If they could keep Beverly it's definitely something worth looking into, but if not, oh man they may only have one perimeter player!
By Omzz Go To PostLakers trying to create cap space per wojYoung is the only possible answer to this. Only other players on contract are Kelly ($1.7) and Randle (not being offered) beside Kobe (obviously not being offered).
Whatever that means
Unloading $5 mil would be lice. $27 mil in cap space could bring another good player if someone like LMA joined. Demarre Carroll?
By Shun Go To PostI'd raise you and say that the suffering will start when RC Buford steps down as GM. A replacement coach might do as well as Pop. Losing Buford means losing those system pieces and future smart drafts. The system and culture has been embedded into the team and others can succeed that.Spurs honestly haven't drafted worth a shit the last few years besides Kawhi.
By Omzz Go To PostLakers trying to create cap space per wojWe didn't pick up Jordan hill's team option, and assuming Nick young is next.
Whatever that means
Someone gave Nick Young multiple guaranteed years?
How would this work with Russell's cap hold?
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Around the league, executives believe the Lakers are pursuing space to offer free agent deals to LaMarcus Aldridge and DeAndre Jordan.
5:59 PM - 30 Jun 2015
How would this work with Russell's cap hold?
By thekad Go To PostSomeone gave Nick Young multiple guaranteed years?lol no fucking way they pull this off.
How would this work with Russell's cap hold?
By thekad Go To PostHow would this work with Russell's cap hold?
Sounds literally impossible even if they shed Young and Kelly without taking salary 14 mil each? pfffft.
By thekad Go To PostSomeone gave Nick Young multiple guaranteed years?It's very possible the wording was incorrect and he just meant an offer to each of them, but not both.
How would this work with Russell's cap hold?
Because if the Lakers dump everyone but Kobe, Russell, Clarkson, Randle, Nance Jr, and Brown, they get $29.2 mil in cap space which clearly isn't enough.
Jesus, Nick Young's contract runs until 2018? I thought he was expiring. Tell me someone got fired for that.
By thekad Go To PostJesus, Nick Young's contract runs until 2018? I thought he was expiring. Tell me someone got fired for that.im going to pull the kingsfan card and ignore this post.
By Kuma Go To PostLakers going into win now mode?Yeah it makes no sense. They already have Randle. Are they looking to trade him if they could get both LMA and DJ? Even then, you'd have a rookie PG, old and brittle Kobe at SG, LMA at PF, DJ at Center, and uh... I have no idea who would play SF.
By ratcliffja Go To PostYeah it makes no sense. They already have Randle. Are they looking to trade him if they could get both LMA and DJ? Even then, you'd have a rookie PG, old and brittle Kobe at SG, LMA at PF, DJ at Center, and uh… I have no idea who would play SF.Byron scott said he was going to start Russell, Clarkson and kobe at the SF.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostIf the Rockets are seriously in play, Aldridge would be a fool not to go there
We'd be the best team for him but if he's upset about Lillard taking his shine we have no chance. SA he gets to be the man and contend. That ain't happening anywhere else with who he's set to meet.
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostGuys. Give me your pathetic attempts at talent evaluation I want to start keeping track of everyone's scouting skills for future gloating and crow eating.Alright, I did all the lottery players plus a few non-lottery players who I thought were sleepers/steals:
Karl-Anthony Towns
Ceiling: more mobile Tim Duncan
Floor: Derrick Favors
Likely Outcome: bigger, longer, stronger Al Horford with a better post game and rim protecting ability
D'Angelo Russell
Ceiling: Hybrid of Prime Deron Williams/Brandon Roy
Floor: Damian Lillard (driving/finishing) / James Harden (defense) / Manu Ginobili in twilight years
Likely Outcome: Brandon Roy w/ average finishing ability and w/o effectively learning to use his offhand
Jahlil Okafor
Ceiling: softer Vlade Divac
Floor: Greg Monroe
Likely Outcome: Al Jefferson with way better bbball IQ and passing ability
Kristaps Porzingis
Ceiling: athletic Andrea Bargnani w/ better rim protecting ability
Floor: a softer Andrea Bargnani with even worse passing ability and feel for the game
Likely Outcome: athletic Channing Frye
Mario Hezonja
Ceiling: athletic Klay Thompson
Floor: Linas Kleiza/Andres Nocioni
Likely Outcome: athletic Klay Thompson w/ lower bball IQ and symptomatic for penatsomy for the chromosome carrying the asshole gene
Willie TRILL Cauley-Stein
Ceiling: Ben Wallace/Tyson Chandler hybrid w/ a mid-range jumper
Floor: Marcus Camby w/ no touch around the basket
Likely Outcome: quicker/more mobile Tyson Chandler
Emmanuel Mudiay
Ceiling: athletic Super Jrue Holiday
Floor: Reggie Jackson/Rodney Stuckey
Likely Outcome: athletic Jrue Holiday
Stanley Johnson
Ceiling: Gerald Wallace w/ a consistent jumper
Floor: Wesley Johnson
Likely Outcome: stronger Wesley Johnson with higher bballIQ
Frank Kaminsky
Ceiling: taller Kevin Love that doesn't box out his own teammates for rebounds
Floor: Danilo Gallinari
Likely Outcome: more mobile, less athletic/long LaMarcus Aldridge w/ consistent 3-pointer
Justise Winslow
Ceiling: 2014 Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard
Floor: Wilson Chandler with a post game
Likely Outcome: very close to or at ceiling
Myles Turner
Ceiling: Mehmet Okur with rim protection ability but lower bball IQ
Floor: unathletic Meyers Leonard
Likely Outcome: Raef LaFrentz
Trey Lyles
Ceiling: Blake Griffin w/o the athleticism or explosiveness
Floor: Carlos Boozer w/o the rebounding ability or savvy to get to the line
Likely Outcome: closer to his floor
Devin Booker
Ceiling: Anthony Parker (Raptors years)
Floor: Gary Neal
Likely Outcome: closer to ceiling
Cameron Payne
Ceiling: unathletic Damian Lillard but more pure point guard
Floor: Jordan Farmar
Likely Outcome: closer to ceiling
Kelly Oubre
Ceiling: Super Trevor Ariza
Floor: Al Thornton w/o a post game
Likely Outcome: somewhere in the middle
Bobby Portis
Ceiling: a stronger, more mobile and active Greg Monroe with better defense and shooting ability
Floor: NBA-ready Noah Vonleh w/ higher bball IQ
Likely Outcome: at or near ceiling
Jerian Grant
Ceiling: Prime Chauncey Billups
Floor: Randy Foye
Likely Outcome: close to ceiling
Delon Wright
Ceiling: taller Rajon Rondo when he gave a fuck about basketball
Floor: Elfrid Payton with a jumper
Likely Outcome: close to ceiling
Tyus Jones
Ceiling: Prime Jameer Nelson with better point guard skills
Floor: Trey Burke with better shot selection
Likely Outcome: closer to ceiling
R.J. Hunter
Ceiling: Prime Mike Miller with better defense
Floor: taller/longer inconsistent J.J. Redick
Likely Outcome: closer to ceiling
Log it in, Moris!
By ratcliffja Go To PostYeah it makes no sense. They already have Randle. Are they looking to trade him if they could get both LMA and DJ? Even then, you'd have a rookie PG, old and brittle Kobe at SG, LMA at PF, DJ at Center, and uh… I have no idea who would play SF.They can't get both. This is more likely a move to try to pair LMA/DAJ with a Demarre Carroll or something like that.
By K@do Go To PostByron scott said he was going to start Russell, Clarkson and kobe at the SF.I really don't like the idea of two starting guards who traditionally play the point. When has that been successful?
I'd be really surprised if Tyus Jones is ever more than a backup. I think he's too small, unathletic and defensively deficient. But all we need is someone to take over for Ricky and not be a tire fire so.
By ratcliffja Go To PostI really don't like the idea of two starting guards who traditionally play the point. When has that been successful?
Lakers feel clarkson is more of a two
Would fucking love if the Lakers found space to have a team that's just Kobe, daj, randle, and russell
Lullllll
Lullllll
Rumor says we're going after Wesley Johnson for the vet minimum.
So assuming no trades, and that we keep Alexander, and sign Biyombo (plz)...
So assuming no trades, and that we keep Alexander, and sign Biyombo (plz)...
Lopez/Biyombo/AlexanderI'd be very pleased with that. A successful off-season if we can pull that off.
Young/Teletovic/McCullough
Johnson/Hollis-Jefferson/Karasev
Bogdanovic/Wesley/Brown
Williams/Jack/Blake
By Fenderputty Go To PostRadio saying lakers are targeting both and not one or the other. I want what Mitch is smokingwell, he almost did pull off bringing in cp3 and dwight.
mitch thinks big.
bigger than us apparently.
By K@do Go To Postwell, he almost did pull off bringing in cp3 and dwight.And did pull off Dwight and Nash. There's hope yet!
mitch thinks big.
bigger than us apparently.
I can't figure out why my Twitter language is set to... Greek I think?
LMA having a meeting with the RAPS?!
Hope Masai hops up on him, and doesn't make the mistake he did on Bargnani back in 2009
#BLESSED
Hope Masai hops up on him, and doesn't make the mistake he did on Bargnani back in 2009
#BLESSED
By Face it Tiger.. Go To PostLMA having a meeting with the RAPS?!He'll bathe in your maple syrup and eat all your poutine and then sign with the Spurs.
Hope Masai hops up on him, and doesn't make the mistake he did on Bargnani back in 2009
#BLESSED
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostYou shut your motherfuckin whore mouth kadohashtag KD2LA has a nice ring to it.
come at me.
By Jonm Go To PostI'm actually a George Karl fan so maybe this is clouding my judgement, but could it be that DMC just doesn't fit an up-tempo style of basketball? You know, the mandate Karl was hired to do?Karl may have praised his skill but karl was always a fan of shipping DMC out of SAC.
That, you know, what many have thought was common knowledge about DMC is in fact still true? He likes to play his way which is half court based and he is fickle to people trying to push him to change?
Karl praised the crap out of DMC before he was even seriously considered being hired. But now he wants him gone? It just seems like there is more to this.
DMC has played many styles, and is a half court beast. You can still play up tempo with a C like that. Suns did it around old Shaq. And DMC runs the floor regularly. Look at the amount of times he tries to lead a fastbreak (and turns it over).
By Forever Go To PostHe'll bathe in your maple syrup and eat all your poutine and then sign with the Spurs.
suck it, america
By IWMTB19 Go To PostWhat team would actually take Kobe's contract? lol.Apparently the Lakers.
By diehard Go To PostApparently the Lakers.
I set that up like Stockton.
This is where we remember that Hinkie is not building a team yet. He's hoarding assets. He's collecting as many lottery tickets as possible and occasionally cashing one in. If he doesn't hit the jackpot with one of them, he'll flip it for another ticket.http://www.sbnation.com/2015/6/26/8851109/philadelphia-76ers-draft-sam-hinkie-jahlil-okafor
Carter-Williams is a perfect example: Hinkie hit well enough to land the Rookie of the Year, but decided to put those winnings back into the system to grab a future Laker first-rounder. If one of the three centers hits, but isn't a superstar Hinkie wants to keep, chances are that player will be flipped, possibly for another draft pick.
This is a fine business strategy. The problem is all of the damn humans involved. Hinkie runs the Sixers like a venture capital firm: He makes lots of bets knowing a bunch will go bust but also knowing that the ones that win will win big. When you put that model on the necks of a bunch of 19- and 20-year-olds, it looks rather inconsiderate. When you hire Brett Brown to teach and develop a roster that will turn over more than rotisserie chicken, it looks rather silly.
There's also the matter of the fan base, an important piece considering this is an entertainment business. Plenty of smart fans have embraced Hinkie's plan, wearing those unintentionally hilarious "Trust the Process" t-shirts at the draft and at games and watch parties. It would be nice to be able to trust the process if Hinkie ever actually explained the process or got results. Hope, faith and trust are all good and righteous feelings. But how has Hinkie earned it? Just by having a plan? That's an awfully low threshold.
Sure, the NBA is a business, and everyone here is an adult. Okafor is in for some weird days and he'll be paid handsomely for the trouble. Embiid or Noel (or both) will find themselves on a new team soon. In all likelihood, they won't be the first or last supposed franchise cornerstones to get shipped off. And eventually the Sixers will try to win games.
fuckin lol
Fantastic summary on the man, the myth, the legend: Sam Hinkie
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qfo3mw4 Who says no?
By D'Moris Russell Go To PostEmbiid and Noel aren't listed as part of Philly's summerleague team, Okafor about to get the first sextuple team.Sam Thompson Future and Jakarr da Gawd are going to style.
This is their element breh
By ratcliffja Go To Posthttp://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qfo3mw4 Who says no?Us, for Knux's sake.
By Kuma Go To PostSad Embiid looking another Oden…the wasted potential :(At risk of knocking on wood, Bropez's latest surgery seems to have worked. They rearranged the bone structure of his foot to redistribute weight differently. Modern medicine can save Embiid.