By thekad Go To PostMamba doesn't know that teams can renounce qualifying offers either. The circus of stupidity continues.Of course they can. Never said otherwise. They also have to renounce it before one is signed, however.
I just didn't think they'd bother with CoJo. They have Patty mills and I didn't think they'd bother paying him what he'll probably get in this year's offseason.
It's just funny that Lowe writes exactly what I write and you refuse to take the L.
By diehard Go To PostGobert has a 9'9 standing reach now, up 2 inches.
I call HAX. Someone needs to test dude...he aint human. Yall cheatin
lol it's hilarious seeing people in here shitting on the Kings FO and Vivek over this. For once, they weren't the ones fucking things up. Karl obviously thought he was the coach, the GM, the VP, and part owner of this team if he really believed we brought him in here so he can throw away our best player for some trash pieces he last had in Denver. Vlade's still trying to let DMC and Karl resolve their own shit but if Vivek and others believe the relationship is truly that tainted beyond repair then I fully support whatever happens with Karl.
By etiolation Go To Post1. No trade proposal of any merit existed. Not just that it wasn't close. The report of a "framework of a trade" is false.Or maybe Vivek talked about both.
2. That is a weasely way for Woj to say a job is offered without a contract. Cal's tweets report that Vivek and him discussed players the Kings had and were about to draft. That's the nature of their discussions. Not coaching the team.
This is what is done: Vivek and Cal talk about WCS and Cousins. So you have "VIVEK AND CAL TALKING", then you throw in that a NBA team knows it would have to overpay to lure Calipari and that's where you get that magical 10 million number. You then throw in "interest in front office and coaching" which is entirely made up.
You then put out something dishonest. In exchange, Woj gets to keep the source feeding him horseshit for when that source has real news.
Why this is so? Why does it get repeated in tweets by others? Because it's new media. Accuracy doesn't matter to the press nor the audience.
It feeds off the audience's prejudice that is built by a narrative. That's why you'll believe it, because you believe the Kings front office is literally a circus. That is the narrative and thus the prejudice. The Kings FO has been chaotic, but not an actual circus. There are limits to believability.
We actually have video evidence of vivek being a moron in last year's draft room. Not sure why any of this is a surprise.
Why do this to yourself as a fan? Clippers fans never sat back and defended Sterling. They understood he was a cheap clown (ignoring the racist stuff in this part of the convo) and that the front office was a mess (coaches having to sue him for their own pay!).
Vivek is also a clown. It's better for you to accept this as reality.
Think about it this way. Which is more likely? Vivek and the Kings front office being clown shoes, or Woj feeding lies or repeating lies given to him?
Not a hard choice.
By SamuraiX- Go To Postlol it's hilarious seeing people in here shitting on the Kings FO and Vivek over this. For once, they weren't the ones fucking things up. Karl obviously thought he was the coach, the GM, the VP, and part owner of this team if he really believed we brought him in here so he can throw away our best player for some trash pieces he last had in Denver. Vlade's still trying to let DMC and Karl resolve their own shit but if Vivek and others believe the relationship is truly that tainted beyond repair then I fully support whatever happens with Karl.the fact that Karl thought he had the power to trade DMC makes Vivek/FO looks clownshoes.
Spurs discussing sending Splitter to Cavs for Haywood's unguaranteed contract.
2 weird things about this.
1. Why would the Cavs make their move for another big center? they have Moz, Varajeo, and Thompson and presumably Love. Weird use of money...
2. It would require the Spurs adding more salary by rules, which probably means Mills or Diaw is gone. So that means Spurs can now keep Green too but it comes at a cost like I said earlier (Mills or Diaw being dumped).
2 weird things about this.
1. Why would the Cavs make their move for another big center? they have Moz, Varajeo, and Thompson and presumably Love. Weird use of money...
2. It would require the Spurs adding more salary by rules, which probably means Mills or Diaw is gone. So that means Spurs can now keep Green too but it comes at a cost like I said earlier (Mills or Diaw being dumped).
YOU MEAN WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH!?I'll be hanging myself around 3 if anyone needs me.
I hope Vlade tells Vivek to sit down and stfu. All either of these signings does is bring more toxicity into the locker room and hinder the development of McLemore, Stauskas, and McCallum.
By Mamba Go To Postthe fact that Karl thought he had the power to trade DMC makes Vivek/FO looks clownshoes.oh yeah, because I'm sure Vivek's sales pitch to Karl including something along the lines up "please come coach this team so you can completely fire sale the whole roster just to get a treadmill team to win games immediately with run'n'gun bull shit just so you can continue boosting your winning %" like, fucking what
mamba, you on some kinda shit right now
By Mamba Go To PostOr maybe Vivek talked about both.
We actually have video evidence of vivek being a moron in last year's draft room. Not sure why any of this is a surprise.
Why do this to yourself as a fan? Clippers fans never sat back and defended Sterling. They understood he was a cheap clown (ignoring the racist stuff in this part of the convo) and that the front office was a mess (coaches having to sue him for their own pay!).
Vivek is also a clown. It's better for you to accept this as reality.
Think about it this way. Which is more likely? Vivek and the Kings front office being clown shoes, or Woj feeding lies or repeating lies given to him?
Not a hard choice.
I am not defending Vivek. I don't believe I've ever said a kind word about Vivek here.
I am attacking the nature of the reports, the falsehood of these reports and their intent.
It is possible to know that both Vivek has meddled too much and that these reports are false and agenda driven.
By etiolation Go To PostI am not defending Vivek. I don't believe I've ever said a kind word about Vivek here.
I am attacking the nature of the reports, the falsehood of these reports and their intent.
It is possible to know that both Vivek has meddled too much and that these reports are false and agenda driven.
It's much more likely Vivek has meddled too much and the FO is a bit chaotic and these reports are largely accurate.
Like I said, take a cue from Clipper fans pre-Ballmer.
Grant Napear @GrantNapearshow 27m27 minutes ago
As expected the Kings will not be tendering a qualifying offer to Derrick Williams.
Hurray.
Mamba : You sill don't understand the limit to believability concept. That you bring up Sterling is evidence of this.
As expected the Kings will not be tendering a qualifying offer to Derrick Williams.
Hurray.
Mamba : You sill don't understand the limit to believability concept. That you bring up Sterling is evidence of this.
By etiolation Go To PostGrant Napear @GrantNapearshow 27m27 minutes agoHALLELUJAH
As expected the Kings will not be tendering a qualifying offer to Derrick Williams.
Hurray.
By Mamba Go To PostIt's much more likely Vivek has meddled too much and the FO is a bit chaotic and these reports are largely accurate.Except most reports have indicated that Vivek has been taking a step back since bringing Vlade in. He completely left the draft up to him. Vivek didn't even know who we were picking until shortly before Kings were on the clock on draft day.
Like I said, take a cue from Clipper fans pre-Ballmer.
Not sure the Kings are that interested in Rondo due to injuries.
I expect them to offer Danny Green as much money as they can. Failing that, they may pursue Corey Brewer. I do expect an offer to Ellis as well, and Rodney Stuckey, too.
They can't afford Green and Ellis, so it's sort of a tier system. You try to sign one of the defensive wigs or scoring small guards, and then try to get the plan B option cheap on the other.
I expect them to offer Danny Green as much money as they can. Failing that, they may pursue Corey Brewer. I do expect an offer to Ellis as well, and Rodney Stuckey, too.
They can't afford Green and Ellis, so it's sort of a tier system. You try to sign one of the defensive wigs or scoring small guards, and then try to get the plan B option cheap on the other.
By diehard Go To PostOnce upon a time i really wanted Derrick Williams and Evan Turner. True story.I was so wrong about Derrick Williams. Watching him play up close for a couple years, it's pretty obvious his sophomore year at Arizona was a fluke as far as his jumper goes. He couldn't really finish around the basket and didn't have the handle to play small forward (it's worse than Beasley, who isn't much of a 3, either). He just sucks.
That dunk against Duke doe.
but yeah Derrick Williams is the guy who made me realize I would be an awful NBA scout.
alas
but yeah Derrick Williams is the guy who made me realize I would be an awful NBA scout.
alas
By knux-future Go To PostThat dunk against Duke doe.I think scouting is even different from only four years ago. Statistics have caught up some for the college game and also for translating Euroleague numbers and I think it's slightly easier to tell now for prospects. Like, Ricky Rubio was one of the most hyped prospects in his class based largely off that Olympic game against America. That'd probably be different now.
but yeah Derrick Williams is the guy who made me realize I would be an awful NBA scout.
alas
Williams would score 25 points off the bench one night.
And then nothing for two weeks. He fits in the NBA, but on a small contract. At least until he establishes consistency or something. If he rebounded more then he'd have a solid career.
And then nothing for two weeks. He fits in the NBA, but on a small contract. At least until he establishes consistency or something. If he rebounded more then he'd have a solid career.
gratz phazeBy etiolation Go To PostI expect them to offer Danny Green as much money as they can. Failing that, they may pursue Corey Brewer. I do expect an offer to Ellis as well, and Rodney Stuckey, too.
By rodeoclown Go To PostI think I'd rather have Monta than Rondo, really.Heat, Pacers, and Hawks are also in play for HaveItAll, apparently. Hopefully one of them steals him away.
Would not at all mind throwing money at Danny Green or Rodney Stuckey though.
I feel like Monta or Rondo is more of a "gun to your head" type question and not a "hard pursuit" type scenario.
By SamuraiX- Go To PostThank you for taking him off our hands.
everytime someone mentioned rondo to the lakers, my right eyelid would twitch.
By etiolation Go To PostGrant Napear @GrantNapearshow 27m27 minutes agoyou're exaggerating what's reported and trying to make things seem less believable that what's really been said in order to defend against the reports.
As expected the Kings will not be tendering a qualifying offer to Derrick Williams.
Hurray.
Mamba : You sill don't understand the limit to believability concept. That you bring up Sterling is evidence of this.
I don't bring up Sterling. I bring up Clipper fans in the Sterling days. They understood owner was cheap. They didn't defend it, just accepted it. The Kings FO has been a mess and handled the Cousins-Karl thing pretty fucking shitty. This is undeniable and yet, here you are, trying to deny it.
By SamuraiX- Go To PostExcept most reports have indicated that Vivek has been taking a step back since bringing Vlade in. He completely left the draft up to him. Vivek didn't even know who we were picking until shortly before Kings were on the clock on draft day.Which is why he's talking to Cal!
By rodeoclown Go To PostI think I'd rather have Monta than Rondo, really.I can't believe I'm saying this...but me too.
Wow. I need a shower.
By rodeoclown Go To PostI was so wrong about Derrick Williams. Watching him play up close for a couple years, it's pretty obvious his sophomore year at Arizona was a fluke as far as his jumper goes. He couldn't really finish around the basket and didn't have the handle to play small forward (it's worse than Beasley, who isn't much of a 3, either). He just sucks.
Same. I thought he was going to be very good but he isn't even mediocre.
By diehard Go To PostRondo to the Lakers was my dreamAnother great reason to have Russell!
The Cavs-Spurs report might actually be Diaw + Mills instead of Splitter. Interesting.
By Mamba Go To PostAnother great reason to have Russell!
The Cavs-Spurs report might actually be Diaw + Mills instead of Splitter. Interesting.
I like Russell and the reports, but I don't follow college ball much. I definitely thought, "Yea this means no Rondo" on draft night. More so than I thought, "Maybe we have a big targeted in FA"
Also feel I should warn Samurai that Rondo in Sacto is still a possibility.
Like, who else wants him?
Like, who else wants him?
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postkanter might be getting a maxThat has always been a possibility.
Hopefully he accepts an offer without raises, something like 4/$56. Ultimately we'll match any offer though.
By etiolation Go To PostAlso feel I should warn Samurai that Rondo in Sacto is still a possibility.
Like, who else wants him?
@ESPNSteinLine
Free-agent scuttle: Kings forward Rudy Gay is among loudest voices urging on-the-market point guard Rajon Rondo to come to Sacramento
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Aldridge is "leaning toward" the Lakers, according to Ben Bolch of the Los Angeles Times. According to a Stein report from June 25, the Lakers have leapfrogged the Dallas Mavericks as a potential landing spot for the sweet-shooting power forward, and the Houston Rockets are also trying to get in the mix.
hmm...didn't expect this
That's the Clippers beat writer, though.
SHUT THE FUCK UP RUDYBy etiolation Go To PostAlso feel I should warn Samurai that Rondo in Sacto is still a possibility.;_;
Like, who else wants him?
By Smokey Go To PostAt this point why would anybody want to work for the Kings. Such a joke of a franchise. If not for the Knicks being the perennial Knicks they'd be the laughing stock of the league.I'm not sure Firing Karl makes them a joke. If anything it makes them look sane.
Of course the hiring of Karl....
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 4m4 minutes ago
Charlotte's expected to be aggressive with Spurs shooter Marco Belinelli on Day 1 of free agency. Hornets can offer mid-level exception.
Oh shit, Ezio and Frank in Charlotte
Yall done put two of Amerika's most wanted in the same muthafuckin place at the same muthafuckin time?
Charlotte's expected to be aggressive with Spurs shooter Marco Belinelli on Day 1 of free agency. Hornets can offer mid-level exception.
Oh shit, Ezio and Frank in Charlotte
Yall done put two of Amerika's most wanted in the same muthafuckin place at the same muthafuckin time?
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 5m5 minutes ago
Charlotte's expected to be aggressive with Spurs shooter Marco Belinelli on Day 1 of free agency. Hornets can offer mid-level exception.
Charlotte really wants shooters. Why not go after Green?
Yo I'd be pumped if the Cavs could swing a trade for Mills.
Never mind. :(
@JasonLloydABJ: Idea of trade between #Cavs and Spurs involving Haywood contract "never discussed," I was told.
Never mind. :(
By spooks Go To PostYo I'd be pumped if the Cavs could swing a trade for Mills.That makes the most sense. Diaw + Mills for Haywood is pure NBA 2K with trade override turned on levels of wtf.
Never mind. :(
By Mamba Go To PostCharlotte really wants shooters. Why not go after Green?because we're out of money lol
Marc BermanKnicks better sign Thanasis after Summa League
@NYPost_Berman
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#Knicks summer-league team stacked with familiar faces: Porzingis, Langston, Thanasis, Ledo, Wear, Grant.
By Mamba Go To PostCharlotte really wants shooters. Why not go after Green?The market for green is seemingly really high. He could get a stupid 4/48+ contract.
By obijkenobi Go To PostAs a Spurs fan, I can't take anymore of these rumors. I just want it over with. :(Oh what-the-fuck-ever.
Embiid and Noel aren't listed as part of Philly's summerleague team, Okafor about to get the first sextuple team.
By giririsss Go To PostI'm not sure Firing Karl makes them a joke. If anything it makes them look sane.I'm actually a George Karl fan so maybe this is clouding my judgement, but could it be that DMC just doesn't fit an up-tempo style of basketball? You know, the mandate Karl was hired to do?
Of course the hiring of Karl….
That, you know, what many have thought was common knowledge about DMC is in fact still true? He likes to play his way which is half court based and he is fickle to people trying to push him to change?
Karl praised the crap out of DMC before he was even seriously considered being hired. But now he wants him gone? It just seems like there is more to this.
By Mamba Go To Posthmm…didn't expect thisthat's 5 days old report, no?
That's the Clippers beat writer, though.
yesterday on Foxsports 1, woj said the Spurs is still LMA's frontrunner choice.
By obijkenobi Go To PostAs a Spurs fan, I can't take anymore of these rumors. I just want it over with. :(
By K@do Go To Posthey look, sbnation must read slaent or they know something.The latest rumors had Bropez signing a 3 year max with us with financial protections in case of another foot injury. We'll see.
What's your size DB, we'll all pitch in to get you a Rolo laker jersey.
Here are predictions on where the top 50 NBA free agents will sign9. Brook Lopez: 5-year max with the Nets. (Gulp.)
Lmao Spurs fans acting like they know suffering like Drake knows what "started from the bottom" is like.