By jman2050 Go To PostWe finally JUST got rid of Vaughn for goodness' sake.... really uncool.
By jman2050 Go To PostIf Scotty Brooks comes to Orlando I might just throw something.
We finally JUST got rid of Vaughn for goodness' sake.
I called Brooks to orlando a while ago and it makes so much sense. He is a player development coach and that is what Orlando needs because they have a ton of young talent with potential. That team shouldn't even be thinking about playoff lvl coaching and brooks isn't the guy they will want when that time comes anyhow. Its the right move for everybody involved
Adam Zagoria (who reported that the Thunder had Kevin Ollie in their sights yesterday) says that they're talking to him now.
He's my first choice for sure.
He's my first choice for sure.
who the fuck even knows who's gonna be good or not
kerr's front office work with the suns was complete truffle butter and he comes out of nowhere only because of phil jax and sends the Warriors to their final form
kerr's front office work with the suns was complete truffle butter and he comes out of nowhere only because of phil jax and sends the Warriors to their final form
By jman2050 Go To PostIf Scotty Brooks comes to Orlando I might just throw something.Brooks is a good coach for an up and coming team. Just not one with title aspirations.
We finally JUST got rid of Vaughn for goodness' sake.
Orlando would be a good fit for a few years.
Funny how the media is saying Rondo max is unlikely NOW after he struggled in Dallas.
buuut when you take a look at the numbers he has been playing just as bad as he ever has, he's just being a shithead while he's doing it.
buuut when you take a look at the numbers he has been playing just as bad as he ever has, he's just being a shithead while he's doing it.
By Mamba Go To PostBrooks is a good coach for an up and coming team. Just not one with title aspirations.
Orlando would be a good fit for a few years.
He reminds me of Monty Williams in that sense. If you can't land a top talent you could do worse.
Good family guy that players can get along with. Has developed talent. Can oversee a young franchise for a few years. When given a stacked roster and a superstar he can be a season manager that isn't going to wow you but isn't the worst out there.
I honestly like Monty better but they are in the same tier of coaches to me. Below average in terms of system and X's and O's but above average in terms of talent development and can do just enough in other ways to be competitive if given talent.
The only people mentioning Gentry are fans. Gentry doesn't seem interested in head coaching again. Dudes old, with grand kids. He doesn't need to be killing him self as a head coach now.
By Moris Go To PostFunny how the media is saying Rondo max is unlikely NOW after he struggled in Dallas.
buuut when you take a look at the numbers he has been playing just as bad as he ever has, he's just being a shithead while he's doing it.
You can make an excuse for poor numbers or make excuses like "team wasn't built around his strengths!" or some non-sense. You can't excuse a bad attitude at his skill level, dude probably isn't even top 25 PG in the league. He's not worth the headache to any team
By Omega Go To PostYou can make an excuse for poor numbers or make excuses like "team wasn't built around his strengths!" or some non-sense. You can't excuse a bad attitude at his skill level, dude probably isn't even top 25 PG in the league. He's not worth the headache to any team
A lot of Rondo's hype was unwarranted imo, people saw a 23 y/o who had court vision and played D, how hard would it be for him to learn to shoot? 6 seasons later and he's the same player.
His attitude popped up every now and then but above all else he just never was very good.
By Omega Go To PostYou can make an excuse for poor numbers or make excuses like "team wasn't built around his strengths!" or some non-sense. You can't excuse a bad attitude at his skill level, dude probably isn't even top 25 PG in the league. He's not worth the headache to any teamIts like I heard today. Rondo needs the ball in his hands to be the best he can be. But with who Rondo is today, how good can your team actually be with the ball in Rondo's hands?
So if you aren't committed to putting the ball in his hands what does Rondo give you anymore? Nothing.
I always thought Rondo was garbage, I'm just saying that's probably why people are acknowledging he's not getting a max anymore.
He was never deserving of it but no owner is going to pay him now after his actions. His agent would have to be God to somehow spin this around and get a team dumb enough to pay him.
He was never deserving of it but no owner is going to pay him now after his actions. His agent would have to be God to somehow spin this around and get a team dumb enough to pay him.
By Omega Go To PostI always thought Rondo was garbage, I'm just saying that's probably why people are acknowledging he's not getting a max anymore.If the Lakers don't fall into the trap I don't know who will TBH.
He was never deserving of it but no owner is going to pay him now after his actions. His agent would have to be God to somehow spin this around and get a team dumb enough to pay him.
If i were a Laker fan i would look at it from a positive angle:
Just think how much money/cap space you saved by him going to Dallas. Dude lost himself Millions.
Just think how much money/cap space you saved by him going to Dallas. Dude lost himself Millions.
By diehard Go To PostIf i were a Laker fan i would look at it from a positive angle:
Just think how much money/cap space you saved by him going to Dallas. Dude lost himself Millions.
That thought crossed my mind sadly. Rumor bouncing around that Rondo was all but certainly gonna sign a Max sheet with LA when he entered free agency.
The best I can hope for is he signed for cheap. =\
I see Rondo on either the Lakers, Knicks, Kings, Nets or Detroit. Yes, Detroit. Jennings/Jackson isn't so sacred that you wouldn't give them up.
What I hear from the Kings is that all the various voices want a defensive guy, a passer and more floor spacers. I think a PF solution would be a priority. Milsap is ideal next to Cousins, but I don't see him leaving Atlanta. Ibaka is ideal next to Cousins, but don't know why OKC would trade him. Draymond Green they could throw money at and he'd fit as well.
Rondo does fit the passing/defensive guy thing though. It's just a question of whether he has that level of play in him anymore. Gay/Cousins are high level talent for him to be around. The issue is whether Stauskas or McLemore ever become consistent.
However, Collison/Miller/MacCallum is good PG production at a cheap price.
What I hear from the Kings is that all the various voices want a defensive guy, a passer and more floor spacers. I think a PF solution would be a priority. Milsap is ideal next to Cousins, but I don't see him leaving Atlanta. Ibaka is ideal next to Cousins, but don't know why OKC would trade him. Draymond Green they could throw money at and he'd fit as well.
Rondo does fit the passing/defensive guy thing though. It's just a question of whether he has that level of play in him anymore. Gay/Cousins are high level talent for him to be around. The issue is whether Stauskas or McLemore ever become consistent.
However, Collison/Miller/MacCallum is good PG production at a cheap price.
By Moris Go To PostI'm jus gonna accept it brehs
Most dangerous 11th seed of all time
By knux-future Go To Postnot talking shit about Rondo until he is signed by someone…nope
You don't have anything to worry about.
It's either LA or NY. LA because he was supposed to sign a max there before he threw away tens of millions and NY because we're the only people dumb enough to still offer him a max.
By etiolation Go To PostI see Rondo on either the Lakers, Knicks, Kings, Nets or Detroit. Yes, Detroit. Jennings/Jackson isn't so sacred that you wouldn't give them up.
What I hear from the Kings is that all the various voices want a defensive guy, a passer and more floor spacers. I think a PF solution would be a priority. Milsap is ideal next to Cousins, but I don't see him leaving Atlanta. Ibaka is ideal next to Cousins, but don't know why OKC would trade him. Draymond Green they could throw money at and he'd fit as well.
Rondo does fit the passing/defensive guy thing though. It's just a question of whether he has that level of play in him anymore. Gay/Cousins are high level talent for him to be around. The issue is whether Stauskas or McLemore ever become consistent.
However, Collison/Miller/MacCallum is good PG production at a cheap price.
Stan Van is too smart to sign somebody who literally can't shoot.
Granted, Reggie Jackson and Brandon Jennings are below average shooters, but they're good enough that it's not an unmitigated catastrophe. Rondo is MCW level bad.
By Vyer Go To PostHas YNB commented on Brooks yet?No. KD tweeted out a supportive message and Serge just tweeted out "SMH" with nothing else.
I take it that means they're still figuring out how to feel. Haha.
Over time it'll be fine. The Dubs players were pissed when they fired Mark Jackson too.
I think Kevin Ollie would be good with the Thunder. Definitely their best option if they can get him.
By Forever Go To PostI think Kevin Ollie would be good with the Thunder. Definitely their best option if they can get him.Yep. Mainly because he's the surest bet to connect with Russ and KD.
Is it true that OKC is finally going over the cap? If so I think this is a sign that Presti recognizes that they have a window that is closing. They need to be active in the offseason.
By Forever Go To PostIs it true that OKC is finally going over the cap? If so I think this is a sign that Presti recognizes that they have a window that is closing. They need to be active in the offseason.There's a strong chance we'll pay the tax next season by extending Kanter.
We're technically over the tax now but we can get under by shipping out a couple players this summer.
As long as we make a solid coaching hire I'm not worried about windows closing or KD leaving. I think he wants to stay with one franchise for his whole career if possible.
By KingGondo Go To PostThere's a strong chance we'll pay the tax next season by extending Kanter.
We're technically over the tax now but we can get under by shipping out a couple players this summer.
As long as we make a solid coaching hire I'm not worried about windows closing or KD leaving. I think he wants to stay with one franchise for his whole career if possible.
I can somehow read how nervous you are.
By etiolation Go To PostI see Rondo on either the Lakers, Knicks, Kings, Nets or Detroit. Yes, Detroit. Jennings/Jackson isn't so sacred that you wouldn't give them up.Lawson will likely be up for sale and Karl has voiced publicly how much he loved Lawson and will probably make a huge push. I just can't see a Karl team going for a guy like Rondo that can't shoot. Just keep Collison who would be better then Rondo.
What I hear from the Kings is that all the various voices want a defensive guy, a passer and more floor spacers. I think a PF solution would be a priority. Milsap is ideal next to Cousins, but I don't see him leaving Atlanta. Ibaka is ideal next to Cousins, but don't know why OKC would trade him. Draymond Green they could throw money at and he'd fit as well.
Rondo does fit the passing/defensive guy thing though. It's just a question of whether he has that level of play in him anymore. Gay/Cousins are high level talent for him to be around. The issue is whether Stauskas or McLemore ever become consistent.
However, Collison/Miller/MacCallum is good PG production at a cheap price.
By KingGondo Go To PostIf Ollie comes here that would be a huge sign that KD is staying.I can't comprehend how one can come to this conclusion.
By RBK Go To PostI can't comprehend how one can come to this conclusion.Ollie was his college coach.
that relationship stuff means dick
KD will go to the best combination of success and money, not because of Ollie
KD will go to the best combination of success and money, not because of Ollie
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postthat relationship stuff means dickMy logic is that Ollie would be leaving great pay, stability and a potential contending program at his alma mater to come to OKC, which would mean that he's confident that KD and Russ are both in it for the long haul.
KD will go to the best combination of success and money, not because of Ollie
Or he could just be making the leap while his stock is highest. Personally I think KD is going to stay, but Ollies coming because OKC is a good NBA gig with or without KD due to Presti's ability to consistently bring in talent. He can always go back for a college gig if things don't work out, and he'd probably get a better recruiting school than UConn too.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostOr he could just be making the leap while his stock is highest. Personally I think KD is going to stay, but Ollies coming because OKC is a good NBA gig with or without KD due to Presti's ability to consistently bring in talent. He can always go back for a college gig if things don't work out, and he'd probably get a better recruiting school than UConn too.It would still be hard to leave the job you dreamed of your whole adult life after 3 or 4 years.
My ideal scenario is that the situation in Dallas sours to the point that we're able to snag Carlisle. Sweet Jesus we'd wreck some shit with him.
By KingGondo Go To PostMy logic is that Ollie would be leaving great pay, stability and a potential contending program at his alma mater to come to OKC, which would mean that he's confident that KD and Russ are both in it for the long haul.KD would never assure any coach that he's staying. Don't be daft.
By thekad Go To PostKD would never assure any coach that he's staying. Don't be daft.I think he's probably staying regardless unless the head coaching hire is disastrous.
I agree with you that KD is very unlikely to state definitively whether he's staying or not. But a phone call to Ollie saying that he wants him in OKC (or relaying that message to Ollie through Presti) would be a good sign.
By Diprosalic Go To Posti think he wouldn't let Russ behind unless Russ wants to be the man, which is certainly possible.I think this season was (or should be, at least) proof to Russ that he needs KD to really contend for titles.
By KingGondo Go To PostI think this season was (or should be, at least) proof to Russ that he needs KD to really contend for titles.you could turn KD's money in to more help too.
idk about all that
if anything he thinks he can probably be a first option if the team is built around him with that in mind, but yea, im sure he'd like KD there
if anything he thinks he can probably be a first option if the team is built around him with that in mind, but yea, im sure he'd like KD there
By Dark PhaZe Go To Postidk about all thatHim and KD are tight. They like each other and they like playing with each other.
if anything he thinks he can probably be a first option if the team is built around him with that in mind, but yea, im sure he'd like KD there
Man, I would kill to have a great tactical coach like Carlisle who could maximize their effectiveness when they're on the court with each other.
By Diprosalic Go To Postyou could turn KD's money in to more help too.Of course I'd like to have Love if we lost KD, but it would be a massive downgrade.
Apparently Ollie has removed himself from consideration for the Thunder job.
Now we're in the Donovan danger zone.
Now we're in the Donovan danger zone.
Currently reading up on Ettore Messina to convince myself we aren't gonna hire Billy Donovan.
We're gonna hire Billy Donovan :(
We're gonna hire Billy Donovan :(