Where’s the lad inky? 🤔
By Laboured Go To PostDear Lord.
Fucking morons.
After selling Paulinho back to China, Valverde asked club to sign another psychical player and it looks like he got one.
By Scum Go To PostWhere’s the lad inky? 🤔Never mind Inky (sorry amigo, you are important), where's Francis?
Dear Lord.
AOC to Liverpool was a perfect example of why the early transfer window closure is important. The whole concept of the window lasting until the league has been running for a month is ridiculous. The managers need their teams finalized before the season starts, it improves the quality of football, and makes sure the league doesn’t start while teams are scrambling to put together a squad.
Every supporter of a team that isn’t signing players expediently is going to place the blame outward when the problem is entirely internal. If the deadline was still Aug 31, these same exact teams would be waiting till Aug 31 to make their signings.
Every supporter of a team that isn’t signing players expediently is going to place the blame outward when the problem is entirely internal. If the deadline was still Aug 31, these same exact teams would be waiting till Aug 31 to make their signings.
Coventry City are set to sign Huddersfield Town striker Jordy Hiwula-Mayifuila.
The chants will be glorious.
The chants will be glorious.
But it's pointless if the market doesn't close at the same time across all of the major leagues because it's asymetrically advantageous to those whose window closes later. Also, deals are getting bigger and more complex every year.
It's a great change. They've known it was coming for a while now, and certain clubs will use it as an excuse for a shit summer but other big clubs have been able to get shit done no problem.
The English clubs are in a weakened selling position, no club in Europe is in a rush to buy their players, and if you replace them/leave them out of the registered squad for the league, their value will be negatively effected.
Its probably going to give us a proper mental last day or two before the window closes so it's a good move from a banter perspective
By Oddinho Go To PostThe whole concept of the window lasting until the league has been running for a month is ridiculous. The managers need their teams finalized before the season starts, it improves the quality of football, and makes sure the league doesn’t start while teams are scrambling to put together a squad.I know you’re just reiterating what others have said before, so I’m not calling you out in particular, but this concept is absolutely ridiculous. Look at every major sport in America. All of them let teams make moves for roughly the first half the season! Baseball just had its trade deadline and over 2/3rd of the games have been played. There are mechanisms in place that let you do trades for the entire season. Why is soccer the only sport that requires a coach to have a set team in place for them to be effective?
Managers need to be able to adjust their teams and methods on the fly. This concept that they need to have a team finalized before the start of the season is absolutely nonsensical and only serves to suggest a lack of skill from a coach if they can’t make any adjustments. When a major player goes down over the next few weeks and a team is seriously jeopardized because they can’t replace him, it’ll reiterate how stupid this change was.
If some of the teams wanted to place an arbitrary limit on transfers from other English teams to not promote a competitive disadvantage, fine. Dumb, but a compromise at least. As it is, they’ve just entirely fucked themselves and every other league will benefit from it.
By Hixx Go To Postcomparing football to shit like baseball is ludicrous from a team play perspectiveIt’s a pro sport with pro athletes and coaches who manage them. There is far more managing in baseball than just about any sport tbh. They tell the players what to do at essentially every moment of the game. The coaches direct every action before a pitch and regularly direct what happens on both sides once the ball is in play. But even if you compare it to say the NBA — the deadline is 4 months into the season. The NHL deadline is 5 months into the season. The NFL is only 2 months but that’s out of a ~4 month regular season.
What makes soccer/football unique in that the coach has to have his team set? Nothing. It’s a statement that has absolutely zero basis in reality.
By Meier Go To PostIt’s a pro sport with pro athletes and coaches who manage them. There is far more managing in baseball than just about any sport tbh. They tell the players what to do at essentially every moment of the game. The coaches direct every action before a pitch and regularly direct what happens on both sides once the ball is in play. But even if you compare it to say the NBA — the deadline is 4 months into the season. The NHL deadline is 5 months into the season. The NFL is only 2 months but that’s out of a ~4 month regular season.
What makes soccer/football unique in that the coach has to have his team set? Nothing. It’s a statement that has absolutely zero basis in reality.
you're literally ripping your own argument to shreds
this is impossible to do in football. which. is. why. building. a. team. takes. so. much. time.
also, just because we got sidetracked:
the transfer window is not there in any way to help the largest of clubs. it is there to protect the smaller ones which is why they unanimously voted for this. It's there to stop the big clubs doing exactly what you mentioned above: "oh our striker got injured in the last game before the window closes :(). nevermind, we'll just go cherry pick the best player from club x now a few weeks into the season and they'll just have to deal with the hole in their squad"
the transfer window is not there in any way to help the largest of clubs. it is there to protect the smaller ones which is why they unanimously voted for this. It's there to stop the big clubs doing exactly what you mentioned above: "oh our striker got injured in the last game before the window closes :(). nevermind, we'll just go cherry pick the best player from club x now a few weeks into the season and they'll just have to deal with the hole in their squad"
By Hixx Go To Postyou're literally ripping your own argument to shredsWhat?! That is not true. What do you think managers do on the sidelines? They're constantly telling players what to do. Every team sport involves the same thing (hell, even individual sports regularly). The coach tries to get their players to do something he wants but it's down to the players to do that. They make adjustments during the game based on whether things are working or not. If you add a new guy 2 weeks after everyone else, he still has 36 weeks to get entirely on the same page. It's nonsense.
this is impossible to do in football. which. is. why. building. a. team. takes. so. much. time.
Take this season for instance. These coaches are going to have maybe a week with their players before the season starts. In the case of at least 3 guys on City, they won't even be back until after the Community Shield. What's your take in this scenario? Should the season start 5 weeks later so that the teams can all be built in time? Or is duration of preparation an entirely arbitrary concept?
By Hixx Go To Postalso, just because we got sidetracked:Which is why I said I could understand if they had voted to limit transfers within the Premier League or even within England as a whole -- to allow for some protection. But why should they be beholden to teams elsewhere? And what about from leagues that aren't even playing on the same schedule? This has only weakened Premier League's bargaining power. That is all it has done. Nothing else.
the transfer window is not there in any way to help the largest of clubs. it is there to protect the smaller ones which is why they unanimously voted for this. It's there to stop the big clubs doing exactly what you mentioned above: "oh our striker got injured in the last game before the window closes :(). nevermind, we'll just go cherry pick the best player from club x now a few weeks into the season and they'll just have to deal with the hole in their squad"
By Meier Go To PostWhat?! That is not true. What do you think managers do on the sidelines? They're constantly telling players what to do. Every team sport involves the same thing (hell, even individual sports regularly). The coach tries to get their players to do something he wants but it's down to the players to do that. They make adjustments during the game based on whether things are working or not. If you add a new guy 2 weeks after everyone else, he still has 36 weeks to get entirely on the same page. It's nonsense.
Take this season for instance. These coaches are going to have maybe a week with their players before the season starts. In the case of at least 3 guys on City, they won't even be back until after the Community Shield. What's your take in this scenario? Should the season start 5 weeks later so that the teams can all be built in time? Or is duration of preparation an entirely arbitrary concept?
THAT THEY'VE BEEN AT CITY FOR OVER A YEAR.
oh my god how can a fan of a club that has pep guardiola, a manager so meticulous in his style of football and a club that has literally seen the difference that time has on a team FIRST FUCKING HAND (no, signing Ederson and Kyle Walker does not turn an underwhelming team into one of the strongest in the league's history).
im triggered as fuck and done with this.
"Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola also supports the change decided upon on Thursday: "I am so happy with the decision they have taken in the Premier League. I think it's really good.""
""Obviously I am in favour," Mourinho said. "Of course I want to arrive on day one and have my squad, my players, I want to work with them, travel with them. I don't want to be waiting for late decisions when the championship has already started. That is the coach's perspective."
"But from a manager's point of view, then it's definite for me because you want to work with the players you've got."
Bournemouth boss Eddie Howe summed the situation up nicely, as he said there simply was not just a 'yes' or 'no' answer. But, he did ultimately support the final decision.
"I think its good news," he said. "It won't be plain sailing but overall I think it's healthy for the team.
"But I'd rather the challenges it will bring, than the uncertainty in the squad."
Don't know why you are getting so worked up baby. Sunderland have played 3d underwater chess by not having any players anyway, these rule changes won''t affect you.
By Wahabipapangus Go To PostDon't know why you are getting so worked up baby. Sunderland have played 3d underwater chess by not having any players anyway, these rule changes won''t affect you.
We have 23 senior players atm and are looking to sign more. Bad wooden banter.
All a bit Brexit really.
The change really does have all the distinctive self-harming stupidity of Brexit. It's divided us entirely. And there's a northern lad that's all for it even though it'll probably negtively effect him.
The change really does have all the distinctive self-harming stupidity of Brexit. It's divided us entirely. And there's a northern lad that's all for it even though it'll probably negtively effect him.
I always said the shortened transfer window was a fucking stupid idea that was only going to harm the Premier League. If all European clubs don't share the same deadline date then it just creates more problems with unfair advantages to the clubs that have longer. This year was always going to be a clusterfuck with the World Cup and sure enough nearly all the top Premier League clubs have struggled to sign top players.
Man City - Mahrez (didn't play in the world cup)
United - Fred + a few young players nobody's heard of
Spurs - nobody
Liverpool - Keita (signed last year), Fabinho (didn't play in the world cup), Shaqiri, Alisson
Arsenal - Torreira, Leno + a few B tier players that didn't go to the world cup
Chelsea - Jorginho (didn't go to the world cup)
So that's zero elite level players and about half a dozen world class players signed between all of the Premier League's top clubs.
The shortened transfer window is about as helpful as Brexit.
Man City - Mahrez (didn't play in the world cup)
United - Fred + a few young players nobody's heard of
Spurs - nobody
Liverpool - Keita (signed last year), Fabinho (didn't play in the world cup), Shaqiri, Alisson
Arsenal - Torreira, Leno + a few B tier players that didn't go to the world cup
Chelsea - Jorginho (didn't go to the world cup)
So that's zero elite level players and about half a dozen world class players signed between all of the Premier League's top clubs.
The shortened transfer window is about as helpful as Brexit.
Who are the elite players left that are available? Also Arsenal signed Auba and Micky in fucking January.
wut
Maybe he had a stormer last season and I missed it, but he's well below PL quality from what I saw the season before
edit: he didn't even play half of Boro's games last season
Maybe he had a stormer last season and I missed it, but he's well below PL quality from what I saw the season before
edit: he didn't even play half of Boro's games last season
Traore is far too good for the Championship tbh, stood out every time I watched him. Huge blow for Boro as he is by far and away their best player.
By Hitch Go To PostTruly elite players don't join the PL whether the deadline is the end or the middle of August.Pogba
Transfer window as a concept is indeed dumb.
But Meier is only arguing to abolish it because clubs like City would drastically prosper from such a move.
But Meier is only arguing to abolish it because clubs like City would drastically prosper from such a move.
By Hitch Go To PostTruly elite players don't join the PL whether the deadline is the end or the middle of August.What’s your definition of truly elite?
By FortuneFaded Go To PostWhat’s your definition of truly elite?Divock Origi
Players who would feasibly make a World XI. From the last few years the likes of Neymar, Ronaldo, Lewandowski, Bonucci
I don't recall anyone with that status joining a PL team when they're already in that category, plenty of players have gained it while playing in it though. That's not to say everyone in the PL has to settle for a bunch of nobodys, its just a step below the very top players.
I don't recall anyone with that status joining a PL team when they're already in that category, plenty of players have gained it while playing in it though. That's not to say everyone in the PL has to settle for a bunch of nobodys, its just a step below the very top players.
By ATTICUS H Go To PostI think players should only be allowed to play for clubs within 200km of their birth placeDover FC would be bigger than Man Utd and Liverpool put together
By ATTICUS H Go To PostI think players should only be allowed to play for clubs within 200km of their birth place
Grønkjær born in Greenland feels bad man.