By Laboured Go To PostYep, samesies. I'd give away Jones and Smalling on a free on principle. They're the totems of accepted mediocrity within the club.I really don't know what successive United managers see in either of them. Smalling's had one good season in all the years he's been here.
Problem with moving Rojo is that he's on £160k per week and is contracted up to 2021. Not many clubs would shell out that much. Lack of forwarf planning on United's part again.
Edit: Wolves for £25m? Praise Mendes.
By Cleff Go To PostI really don't know what successive United managers see in either of them. Smalling's had one good season in all the years he's been here.
Problem with moving Rojo is that he's on £160k per week and is contracted up to 2021. Not many clubs would shell out that much. Lack of forwarf planning on United's part again.
Wolves are paying £25 mill for him apparently. Decent offset. #NetSpend
By Laboured Go To PostVery good for our Net Spend.
By Laboured Go To PostWolves are paying £25 mill for him apparently. Decent offset. #NetSpendJust seen that. It would be a crazy outlay for a newly promoted club.
We'll need it I think. Expect Leicester to demand at least £60m.
Considering how much shit was thrown our way for paying £75m to buy Van Dijk, who is an absolute monster of a CB - this huge bid for Harry fucking Maguire is jokes.
By Cleff Go To PostJust seen that. It would be a crazy outlay for a newly promoted club.And the rest.
We'll need it I think. Expect Leicester to demand at least £60m.
Young - Maguire - Smalling - Shaw
opening day of the league
the carabao is surely coming home to papa, lads
opening day of the league
the carabao is surely coming home to papa, lads
By Arnie Go To PostAnd the rest.That's just a guess for what would get Leicester to the table.
By Arnie Go To PostConsidering how much shit was thrown our way for paying £75m to buy Van Dijk, who is an absolute monster of a CB - this huge bid for Harry fucking Maguire is jokes.A huge bid for a huge head
I definitely like Maguire but I feel he will be scapegoated for a disappointing summer of business ala Fellaini; irrespective of whether you think that vitriol was deserved, it would be a shame to happen again.
By Arnie Go To PostConsidering how much shit was thrown our way for paying £75m to buy Van Dijk, who is an absolute monster of a CB - this huge bid for Harry fucking Maguire is jokes.
He might actually be good. you know. I've liked the look of him for the past two seasons and he's gotten better with each culminating in a good WC. People seem to think it's hilarious that we're knee jerking on him but not every player who plays well at the WC is Salif Diao. We bought Rio and Rooney off the back of good WCs and people declared them to be overpriced too. Final point - no one is overpriced for us cus we're phenomenally rich too. Doesn't really represent any sort of a risk.
By Cleff Go To PostThat's just a guess for what would get Leicester to the table.Leicester have no reason to sell and he has four years on his contract. And he had a great World Cup. If Leicester negotiate at any less than £70m they’re idiots.
By Laboured Go To PostHe might actually be good. you know. I've liked the look of him for the past two seasons and he's gotten better with each culminating in a good WC. People seem to think it's hilarious that we're knee jerking on him but not every player who plays well at the WC is Salif Diao. We bought Rio and Rooney off the back of good WCs and people declared them to be overpriced too. Final point - no one is overpriced for us cus we're phenomenally rich too. Doesn't really represent any sort of a risk.He’s a good defender. He’s not excellent but he’s good. I like him too. But you will end up paying what we did for Van Dijk - which caused mass hysteria - and Maguire isn’t anywhere near Van Dijk’s overall level.
Not a criticism of the transfer. I’d love Maguire at Liverpool as a backup to Lovren and Van Dijk, but it’s more an example of the transfer window once again going nuts. Same with Alisson, next window someone is paying £80m for Nick Pope.
We should play rank the top 10 centre halfs in the Premier League
Don’t chat shit. He’s decent. He would be straight into your team as well.
By Pele.gif Go To PostMaguire is average
If United pay more than 25m they're being robbed at daylight
Don’t chat shit. He’s decent. He would be straight into your team as well.
By Arnie Go To PostHe’s a good defender. He’s not excellent but he’s good. I like him too. But you will end up paying what we did for Van Dijk - which caused mass hysteria - and Maguire isn’t anywhere near Van Dijk’s overall level.
Not a criticism of the transfer. I’d love Maguire at Liverpool as a backup to Lovren and Van Dijk, but it’s more an example of the transfer window once again going nuts. Same with Alisson, next window someone is paying £80m for Nick Pope.
Top bantering of the United boys Arnie
Like rain under orange lamps
Lovren is quick and can pass. For what a CB needs to be playing a high line and dominating possession that’s a lot of what you need.
Has an absolute clanger in him though.
Another reason why Alderweireld is a much better signing for United. He’s a top five Premier League CB.
Has an absolute clanger in him though.
Another reason why Alderweireld is a much better signing for United. He’s a top five Premier League CB.
By Pele.gif Go To PostMaguire is averageyeah he's very average, I don't know why united are interested other than for marketing, but he's worth more than 25m for sure, that's nothing in this market
If United pay more than 25m they're being robbed at daylight
1. Jan Vertonghen
2. Virgil van Dijk
3. Vincent Kompany
4. Nicolas Otamendi
5. Toby Alderweireld
6. Cesar Azpilicueta
7. Davinson Sanchez
8. James Tarkowski
9. John Stones
10. Harry Maguire
2. Virgil van Dijk
3. Vincent Kompany
4. Nicolas Otamendi
5. Toby Alderweireld
6. Cesar Azpilicueta
7. Davinson Sanchez
8. James Tarkowski
9. John Stones
10. Harry Maguire
By Bungie Go To PostWe should play rank the top 10 centre halfs in the Premier LeagueOur best defender is worth 16m
Don’t chat shit. He’s decent. He would be straight into your team as well.
of course he would
By Bungie Go To Post1. Jan VertonghenIsn’t a bad list but I think you’ve been very, very generous on Davinson Sanchez.
2. Virgil van Dijk
3. Vincent Kompany
4. Nicolas Otamendi
5. Toby Alderweireld
6. Cesar Azpilicueta
6. Davinson Sanchez
7. James Tarkowski
8. John Stones
9. Harry Maguire
10. Michael Hector
Spotting the talent by the first "big" move would be nice, a lot of the top clubs are so risk averse, they end up paying 4-5x more than they need to. Don't quite get it.
Liverpool could have bought van Dijk directly from Celtic, and United could have bought Maguire directly from Hull, for not a lot of risk, but then you could argue they would not have developed the same way.
Liverpool could have bought van Dijk directly from Celtic, and United could have bought Maguire directly from Hull, for not a lot of risk, but then you could argue they would not have developed the same way.
Matip's better than Lovren. There you go.
Lovren will actively lose you games, and in his better moments is merely adequate.
Lovren will actively lose you games, and in his better moments is merely adequate.
By Lego Go To PostSpotting the talent for the first "big" move would be nice, a lot of the big clubs are so risk averse, they end up paying 4-5x more than they need to. Don't quite get it.We did that with Andy Robertson who is now one of the league’s best left backs. I take your point though.
Liverpool could have bought van Dijk directly from Celtic, and United could have bought Maguire directly from Hull, for not a lot of risk, but then you could argue they would not have developed the same way.
By Laboured Go To PostMatip's better than Lovren. There you go.This is a really dumb thing to say.
Lovren will actively lose you games, and in his better moments is merely adequate.
Lovren got to a Champions League and World Cup Final because he’s a really good central defender. He’s not merely present, or adequate. He was the man of the match against City at the Etihad and one of the top performers against Rome.
He’s a threat from set pieces and a relentless worker. He also hasn’t let serious blunders such as the Spurs match impact him negatively to the point of career collapse.
People are way too harsh on Lovren. He would start in way more teams than you think.
By Arnie Go To PostWe did that with Andy Robertson who is now one of the league’s best left backs. I take your point though.
This is a really dumb thing to say.
Never watched a match that made me think otherwise. Matip isn't great, but Lovren is just supremely poor if you ever want to win anything because he will lose you an important game along the line. Sakho was also better than him.
By OneTwoTee Go To PostLovren was better than Matip last season, especially once VVD was in.
Doesn't help that Matip seems to be made of tissue paper.
Ya I'll give you his injury issues. Lovren would make wish injury upon him if he was in a team I supported.
By Laboured Go To PostMatip's better than Lovren. There you go.Lovren was better than Matip last season, especially once VVD was in.
Lovren will actively lose you games, and in his better moments is merely adequate.
Doesn't help that Matip seems to be made of tissue paper.
What's all this madness between Liverpool & Man Utd Sla-
International Champions' Cup - 28/7
Manchester United ? - ? Liverpool
I didn’t realise I had two at no. 6. Big Mike Hector had to go
I can defend Davinson up there. He is quality. And only ahead of Stones (who was benched quite a bit, perhaps unfairly), Tarkowski, and Maguire who none of you had even heard of a month ago.
I can defend Davinson up there. He is quality. And only ahead of Stones (who was benched quite a bit, perhaps unfairly), Tarkowski, and Maguire who none of you had even heard of a month ago.
By Laboured Go To PostNever watched a match that made me think otherwise. Matip isn't great, but Lovren is just supremely poor if you ever want to win anything because he will lose you an important game along the line. Sakho was also better than him.See above. You’re wrong. Lovren is way better than Matip.
Ya I'll give you his injury issues. Lovren would make wish injury upon him if he was in a team I supported.
No United players in that list and yet we had the second best defence last year by a goal. DDG's alright.
By Arnie Go To PostSee above. You’re wrong. Lovren is way better than Matip.
I know why he's picked ahead of him. His attributes are for a first line screening CB for VVD's cover role, which his mobility is better suited to than Matip. I know which player I'd take at a push though. As I said, Lovren has actively lost you games and as a United fan it is of considerable comfort that you continue to play him.
By Pele.gif Go To Postwhat about baily is love baily is life
Had a bad second half of last season which means he is now bad forever.
By Pele.gif Go To Postwhat about baily is love baily is life
The next set of players to pick from would include Bailly, Mee, Lovren, Tomkins, Mawson, David Luiz, and probably some others I am forgetting or didn’t see play enough like Winston Reid and Lascelles
