vogel looked miserable and probably wanted to leave anyway.
please please whoever the next guy is, dont have a fetish for post up bigs
and fire vucevic into the sun too
please please whoever the next guy is, dont have a fetish for post up bigs
and fire vucevic into the sun too
The Philly process is overrated. Magic have been worse and Philly didn't even have the worst record in the league in the years they tanked.
By Red Blaster Go To Postthey got ben simmons the year they went 10-72, learn some facts lmaoAye. Their tanking years (after Jrue trade through last season):
2014: 29th best record
2015: 28th
2016: 30th
2017: 27th
By Red Blaster Go To Postthey got ben simmons the year they went 10-72, learn some facts lmaoWhat does that have to do with what I said? They won 19 games and picked Embiid. They won 18 and picked Okafor.
Magic fucking sucked for years now and having nothing to show for it. They trusted the process worse than any other team in the league and are garbage top to bottom.
By s y Go To PostWhat does that have to do with what I said? They won 19 games and picked Embiid. They won 18 and picked Okafor.You said they didn't even have the worst record in the league during the tanking years which could also be interpreted as saying not having the worst record in any given year among the tanking years. That 10 win season was the worst record that year.
Magic fucking sucked for years now and having nothing to show for it. They trusted the process worse than any other team in the league and are garbage top to bottom.
lmao sy you know nothing
magic have picked in the top 3 literally *once* in the post-dwight era and that was 2013. if anything they weren't as committed as they should have been to 'the process'
magic have picked in the top 3 literally *once* in the post-dwight era and that was 2013. if anything they weren't as committed as they should have been to 'the process'
Lakers tank will last at least as long as Philly's and the best they got is Lonzo Ball and Kuzma which they could've picked as a playoff team.
At least The Process is more repeatable than the OKC model (back when that was talked about being the way to team build). It makes for a less enjoyable product while it is in use, though.
By Kibner Go To PostYou said they didn't even have the worst record in the league during the tanking years which could also be interpreted as saying not having the worst record in any given year among the tanking years. That 10 win season was the worst record that year.Gotcha I worded it wrong. J meant to say they didn't have he worst record in all the years.
By Red Blaster Go To Postlmao sy you know nothing
magic have picked in the top 3 literally *once* in the post-dwight era and that was 2013. if anything they weren't as committed as they should have been to 'the process'
Don't worry y'all will have a Minnesota playoff drought so I'm sure youll get a good pick eventually.
The Process involved a set of principles Hinkie adhered to, it wasn’t just finishing with the worst record. The core one being expected value - he specifically drafted guys who would have gone higher but whose stock dropped due to injury, knowing they’d usually recover. He stockpiled mountains of picks because he knew it was impossible to bat 1.000 even at the top of the draft. He understood the real value of 2nd round picks way before most did. He targeted size first, knowing it was easier to accrue value trading down in height than up. He was always about bpa, wasn’t worried about fit during the building because it wasn’t relevant yet. Everything was about maximizing assets.
Orlando and Sacramento and whoever else haven’t been doing all these same things.
Orlando and Sacramento and whoever else haven’t been doing all these same things.
By livefromkyoto Go To PostThe Process involved a set of principles Hinkie adhered to, it wasn’t just finishing with the worst record. The core one being expected value - he specifically drafted guys who would have gone higher but whose stock dropped due to injury, knowing they’d usually recover. He stockpiled mountains of picks because he knew it was impossible to bat 1.000 even at the top of the draft. He understood the real value of 2nd round picks way before most did.
By Red Blaster Go To Postsy literally didn't watch basketball until the decision and he's talking about history lmaoOrlando hasn't played basketball since around the decision
By livefromkyoto Go To PostThe Process involved a set of principles Hinkie adhered to, it wasn’t just finishing with the worst record. The core one being expected value - he specifically drafted guys who would have gone higher but whose stock dropped due to injury, knowing they’d usually recover. He stockpiled mountains of picks because he knew it was impossible to bat 1.000 even at the top of the draft. He understood the real value of 2nd round picks way before most did. He targeted size first, knowing it was easier to accrue value trading down in height than up. He was always about bpa, wasn’t worried about fit during the building because it wasn’t relevant yet. Everything was about maximizing assets.are you trying to kill knux
Orlando and Sacramento and whoever else haven’t been doing all these same things.
By s y Go To PostSo yeah, Okafor fucking sucks.
The question at this point is if Noel is also china bound
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostThe question at this point is if Noel is also china boundhe needs to stay of the weeeeeeeed
(pls come back Nerlins)
Hinkie's Okafor pick was extremely bad. Hinkie confused the fact that players like Okafor had succeeded in the past (based on his statistical model) did not mean that players like Okafor would succeed in the future. Okafor would have been good 15 years ago... He's got no chance in the 2018 NBA though.
Hinkie relied too much on backward looking statistics there instead of trying to adjust for how the game had changed (which is very hard in general, but the Okafor pick was an easier case because he's a guy with lead shoes in a pick and roll league).
But the rest of his moves were very good I think even if Noel never developed like he should have.
Hinkie relied too much on backward looking statistics there instead of trying to adjust for how the game had changed (which is very hard in general, but the Okafor pick was an easier case because he's a guy with lead shoes in a pick and roll league).
But the rest of his moves were very good I think even if Noel never developed like he should have.
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostDid Hart have some type of game against the Clips last night or what?!I think he tied D'angelo for most 3s as a laker with 7.
By IWMTB19 Go To PostHinkie's Okafor pick was extremely bad. Hinkie confused the fact that players like Okafor had succeeded in the past (based on his statistical model) did not mean that players like Okafor would succeed in the future. Okafor would have been good 15 years ago… He's got no chance in the 2018 NBA though.There's been a lot of rumors since that draft happened that it wasn't even Hinkie's pick but was forced on him from above.
Hinkie relied too much on backward looking statistics there instead of trying to adjust for how the game had changed (which is very hard in general, but the Okafor pick was an easier case because he's a guy with lead shoes in a pick and roll league).
But the rest of his moves were very good I think even if Noel never developed like he should have.
By Kibner Go To PostThere's been a lot of rumors since that draft happened that it wasn't even Hinkie's pick but was forced on him from above.Of course there's an excuse. *rolls eyes*
By reilo Go To PostIt's not my fault the UI is shit on RTsuse a third party app. twitter sucks.
By joefu Go To Postuse a third party app. twitter sucks.I'm using Tweetbot and it's the same fucking issue
By s y Go To PostFUCKING Smh REILO
lmao
Rodeo might enjoy today's Ringer podcast about the playoffs when they discuss Minnesota
totally wrong on their Jazz-OKC take though
totally wrong on their Jazz-OKC take though
By diehard Go To PostRodeo might enjoy today's Ringer podcast about the playoffs when they discuss MinnesotaSaw that Bill Simmons was on there, so yeah, I'll pass. I don't know why, I just can't stand listening to him.
totally wrong on their Jazz-OKC take though
By Jeff-DSA Go To PostSaw that Bill Simmons was on there, so yeah, I'll pass. I don't know why, I just can't stand listening to him.Because he's awful
his takes are bad, but every once in a while he can be entertaining. Mostly I'll listen to his stuff because i want to know what he's telling a ton of people.
By reilo Go To PostDamn I got hyped
no way