By FortuneFaded Go To PostI was reading this yesterday. For context, this was the tweet that started it:
I do agree with some of her latest tweets about how people disguise mean spirited attacks as concern for others health but her ideas about obesity & unhealthiness not being linked are just plain wrong.
My women’s studies teacher in university was absolutely obsessed with the notion that obesity has no effect on health. She mentioned this every single class.
By Oddinho Go To PostI disagree with the prevailing opinion that you need a hardass to whip Arsenal’s players into shape. Wenger’s failings aren’t in his personality or man management it’s in his tactical inflexibility and stubbornness to improve on the defensive side.
Simeone is obviously a great coach but I don’t think he’s got the magic bullet, and Atletico’s style of play is absolutely horrid to watch. Ancelotti shouldn’t even be considered, Bayern fired him because he was so relaxed he barely did anything at all.
Arsenal need someone with a bit more flexibility, who can continue to teach attacking football but add more aggressiveness and defensive nous.
You're missing the fact that the team has a serious mentality problem. Without fail, the teams always crumble when there's pressure to win. We crumbled in 13/14 and 15/16. This is why we need someone like Simeone, to coach out the weakness.
By Oddinho Go To PostMy women’s studies teacher in university was absolutely obsessed with the notion that obesity has no effect on health. She mentioned this every single class.
Was she obese
By Facism Go To PostWas she obese
What do you think
I don't think Carlo was relaxed as you said Odd.
I think he took a different measure in training to lessen injuries for the Bayern players, but it was the wrong move for a lot of reasons.
I think he took a different measure in training to lessen injuries for the Bayern players, but it was the wrong move for a lot of reasons.
By Oddinho Go To PostMy women’s studies teacher in university was absolutely obsessed with the notion that obesity has no effect on health. She mentioned this every single class.Was she obese?
By Oddinho Go To PostWhat do you thinkSmoking has no negative effects! *puffs cigarette*
Carlo's strengths that come up time and again are his lack of clashing with owners, and creating a relaxed atmosphere in which players can just get on with things
Exactly what Arsenal don't need, even if he'd be an improvement
Exactly what Arsenal don't need, even if he'd be an improvement
By Hitch Go To PostCarlo's strengths that come up time and again are his lack of clashing with owners, and creating a relaxed atmosphere in which players can just get on with thingsIs he obese
Exactly what Arsenal don't need, even if he'd be an improvement
By Hitch Go To PostMerely fat, like all the great managersThe best managers are fit not fat though. Great managers are fat thats true.
I don't think we need a coach who is gonna come in an instill a new mentality.
We need someone who will come in and make us more tactically sound.
The poor mentality mainly comes from how defensively fragile we are, which can be corrected through proper training and tactics.
My problem with Carlo is that he has never managed a team like us in the past 20 years. The whole hands off approach has worked well because he has always had access to the best players in the world. Our problems start on the training ground, and recent reports make it sound like he isn't the man for the job.
We need someone who will come in and make us more tactically sound.
The poor mentality mainly comes from how defensively fragile we are, which can be corrected through proper training and tactics.
My problem with Carlo is that he has never managed a team like us in the past 20 years. The whole hands off approach has worked well because he has always had access to the best players in the world. Our problems start on the training ground, and recent reports make it sound like he isn't the man for the job.
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I was obese when I was a teen and there's lasting effects until now.
Fuck people trying to say otherwise.
Fuck people trying to say otherwise.
By Hitch Go To PostCarlo's strengths that come up time and again are his lack of clashing with owners, and creating a relaxed atmosphere in which players can just get on with thingsHe was fired twice in the last couple of years
Exactly what Arsenal don't need, even if he'd be an improvement
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostI don't think we need a coach who is gonna come in an instill a new mentality.100% agree. No Arsenal fan but this is how I see it.
We need someone who will come in and make us more tactically sound.
The poor mentality mainly comes from how defensively fragile we are, which can be corrected through proper training and tactics.
My problem with Carlo is that he has never managed a team like us in the past 20 years. The whole hands off approach has worked well because he has always had access to the best players in the world. Our problems start on the training ground, and recent reports make it sound like he isn't the man for the job.
By Oddinho Go To PostHe was fired twice in the last couple of yearsYou feeling the need to mention it suggests otherwise. No shame in it, there's a little of Arsene in all of us.
100% agree. No Arsenal fan but this is how I see it.
The thing we should be debating is how many more injuries can Juve pick up before tonight's game.
Does anyone here actually believe that the Arsenal board is gonna manage to do the right thing and hire the right guy for the job according to you all ( Simeone, Jardim, etc.) Nothing what they have done so far suggests to me they are capable of making a good decision like that.
By Officer_lool Go To PostDoes anyone here actually believe that the Arsenal board is gonna manage to do the right thing and hire the right guy for the job according to you all ( Simeone, Jardim, etc.) Nothing what they have done so far suggests to me they are capable of making a good decision like that.Well, Inter proved it can be done with Mourinho. They were making shit decisions before, they're making them now.
By Officer_lool Go To PostDoes anyone here actually believe that the Arsenal board is gonna manage to do the right thing and hire the right guy for the job according to you all ( Simeone, Jardim, etc.) Nothing what they have done so far suggests to me they are capable of making a good decision like that.
Who knows. Things can change over time. We’ve seen large scale changes on board room behavior with pretty much every top club but Spurs over the last 5 years
If, as many say, the Arsenal board are largely motivated by earning more money, why wouldn't they go and hire the best person they can? Will they be happy watching the value of their asset degrade because of Duff hirings?
I suppose you might say that they already let that happen with Wenger, but it's worth remembering that last season was the first time in decades that Arsenal finished outside of the top 4, and they still got 76 points. The Moyes situation would have had a big effect on their thinking, I'm sure.
I suppose you might say that they already let that happen with Wenger, but it's worth remembering that last season was the first time in decades that Arsenal finished outside of the top 4, and they still got 76 points. The Moyes situation would have had a big effect on their thinking, I'm sure.
Thomas Tuchel would be ideal for Arsenal. His personal flaws don't really matter. Since there are no core Arsenal players left he can't alienate them anyway.
He worked well with Micki and Auba. He speaks german and will be able to communicate perfectly with Özil, Mustafi and Kola and maybe that might be also the golden ticket that saves Mertesacker's assistant spot next year.
Tuchel was also able to turn a 13M 17yo french prospect into a 105M money day and developed Pulisic.
Yeah he burned bridges along the way, with management and several players but a lot of the "core players" at BVB responsible for his sack, were utter shit. The likes of Sahin, Bender, Neven, Schmelle and Reus might have been core players and personas of identification for fans and club, but in terms of pure performance, they were rightfully benched (Reus is always injured and shouldn't count anyway).
The only Arsenal player in that type of position would be Wilshere and maybeeeeee maybe Kosc. Everybody seems expendable for fans right now.
Tuchel is a master of tactical flexibilty, rotates often if given the options and preps for every single opponent. He gives very specific instructions to neutralize opponents key player, while never completely forfeiting own key strengths (unlike Mou). He plans defensively and offensively for each game.
Yes he is a big fat Fraudiola stan. And no I'm not the biggest fan of his play style (especially considering Klopp as his predecessor) but I bet Penny and Milch would chime in to agree that his philosophy is not that far off Arsenal's play style and he'd be a good fit for Arsenal. More so than Simeone.
He worked well with Micki and Auba. He speaks german and will be able to communicate perfectly with Özil, Mustafi and Kola and maybe that might be also the golden ticket that saves Mertesacker's assistant spot next year.
Tuchel was also able to turn a 13M 17yo french prospect into a 105M money day and developed Pulisic.
Yeah he burned bridges along the way, with management and several players but a lot of the "core players" at BVB responsible for his sack, were utter shit. The likes of Sahin, Bender, Neven, Schmelle and Reus might have been core players and personas of identification for fans and club, but in terms of pure performance, they were rightfully benched (Reus is always injured and shouldn't count anyway).
The only Arsenal player in that type of position would be Wilshere and maybeeeeee maybe Kosc. Everybody seems expendable for fans right now.
Tuchel is a master of tactical flexibilty, rotates often if given the options and preps for every single opponent. He gives very specific instructions to neutralize opponents key player, while never completely forfeiting own key strengths (unlike Mou). He plans defensively and offensively for each game.
Yes he is a big fat Fraudiola stan. And no I'm not the biggest fan of his play style (especially considering Klopp as his predecessor) but I bet Penny and Milch would chime in to agree that his philosophy is not that far off Arsenal's play style and he'd be a good fit for Arsenal. More so than Simeone.
I always thought Tuchel did well - and Dortmund were pretty good at Anfield, barring us being better - but I trust the Dortmund-bros who’re over the moon to get rid of him.
Buzzing here, brother coming round for a cooked breakfast with the fam then we’ll head to Liverpool. Few bevs and the match. Not been to Anfield since the Leicester game.
Buzzing here, brother coming round for a cooked breakfast with the fam then we’ll head to Liverpool. Few bevs and the match. Not been to Anfield since the Leicester game.
It's like United, Sohois. We are very much motivated to earn more money, but we got LVG because he he was available, our other targets refused our offer, and has a fantastic portfolio of winning titles and cups.
Same as why Real hired Benitez.
Same as why Real hired Benitez.
This country is a piece of shit country. So my cousin mailed me some stuff from the states, stuff that I owned since I was 14 years old and these fuckers slap a £36.13 customs charge on it.
By DerZuhälter Go To PostThomas Tuchel would be ideal for Arsenal. His personal flaws don't really matter. Since there are no core Arsenal players left he can't alienate them anyway.He's not.
He worked well with Micki and Auba. He speaks german and will be able to communicate perfectly with Özil, Mustafi and Kola and maybe that might be also the golden ticket that saves Mertesacker's assistant spot next year.
Tuchel was also able to turn a 13M 17yo french prospect into a 105M money day and developed Pulisic.
Yeah he burned bridges along the way, with management and several players but a lot of the "core players" at BVB responsible for his sack, were utter shit. The likes of Sahin, Bender, Neven, Schmelle and Reus might have been core players and personas of identification for fans and club, but in terms of pure performance, they were rightfully benched (Reus is always injured and shouldn't count anyway).
The only Arsenal player in that type of Position would be Wilshere and maybeeeeee maybe Kosc. Everybody is expendable for fans.
Tuchel is a master of tactical flexibilty, rotates often if given the options and preps for every single opponents. He gives very specific instructions to neutralize opponents key player, while never completely forfeiting own key strengths (unlike Mou). Yes he is a big fat Fraudiola stan. And no I'm not fan of his play style, but I bet Penny and Milch would chime in to agree that his philosophy is not that far off Arsenal's play style and he's be a good fit for Arsenal. More so than Simeone.
While he is a good coach, he still lacked the balance of asking for the right amount of flexibility. He often overloaded the team with his ideas, especially when there were new players or those that weren't flexibel to begin with.
And he burned bridges with the entire club, it's somewhat telling that people from all levels of the club genuinely hated him and you heard the same stories from Mainz. Motivating the team by splitting them into groups still has lasting effects to this day, so he can get fucked.
He's a good coach that happens to be stoic with some of his decisions. A terrible human being though and I dunno how that would fit into Arsenal, as long as they got no sport director who manages the transfers and other things. Also Mislintat and Tuchel would never work out.
Think he would be a good fit as well, but there are some questionable points.
By Arnie Go To PostI always thought Tuchel did well - and Dortmund were pretty good at Anfield, barring us being better - but I trust the Dortmund-bros who’re over the moon to get rid of him.Aye. Those personal problems were pretty bad, and I don't think Arsenal needs another internal drama after Wenger.
Buzzing here, brother coming round for a cooked breakfast with the fam then we’ll head to Liverpool. Few bevs and the match. Not been to Anfield since the Leicester game.
And now I remembering about Marco Silva. Will he ever get a job in the EPL again? From what we heard happened after Everton took an interest in him, would any English club take a chance on him again?
Yes, because they are idiots.
By Pennywise Go To PostHe's not.
While he is a good coach, he still lacked the balance of asking for the right amount of flexibility. He often overloaded the team with his ideas, especially when there were new players or those that weren't flexibel to begin with.
And he burned bridges with the entire club, it's somewhat telling that people from all levels of the club genuinely hated him and you heard the same stories from Mainz. Motivating the team by splitting them into groups still has lasting effects to this day, so he can get fucked.
He's a good coach that happens to be stoic with some of his decisions. A terrible human being though and I dunno how that would fit into Arsenal, as long as they got no sport director who manages the transfers and other things. Also Mislintat and Tuchel would never work out.
Think he would be a good fit as well, but there are some questionable points.
He showed his flexibilty a lot more in Mainz than in Dortmund. At Mainz he often completely changed line-up and formation according to the opponent, even while being successful the game before. Dortmund had the luxury of being so good offensively, that he didn't see the need to be as flexible as before simply because he could outmuscle his opponents with Auba, Micky, Reus et al.
But you are right about Mislintat, though. They'll never get along. Tuchel is a rat, don't get that twisted. He burned bridges left and right. But Arsenal need an overhaul anyway. Nothing of value to burn there anyway. And I do believe that he is a good manager. But he isn't a good human being.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostIt's like United, Sohois. We are very much motivated to earn more money, but we got LVG because he he was available, our other targets refused our offer, and has a fantastic portfolio of winning titles and cups.I don't think Arsenal fans would complain if the Jardims and Sarris of the world turned them down and they ended up with a Rodgers, as long as they made serious attempts to attract those managers. But the way it was phrased above suggested that Arsenal would just go straight for Eddie Howe and ignore the class managers available elsewhere. (Not that Howe or Rodgers couldn't do a good job at Arsenal)
Same as why Real hired Benitez.
By WJD Go To PostLoad of shite fixtures this weekend and United don’t play until Monday. Football you’ve failed me.#premfacing
By sohois Go To PostI don't think Arsenal fans would complain if the Jardims and Sarris of the world turned them down and they ended up with a Rodgers, as long as they made serious attempts to attract those managers. But the way it was phrased above suggested that Arsenal would just go straight for Eddie Howe and ignore the class managers available elsewhere. (Not that Howe or Rodgers couldn't do a good job at Arsenal)Shanks fuming
Mandzukic out.
By rossonero Go To PostBoth Napoli and Juve need to win tonight. Please win.A draw would be a miracle at this point.
By Zabojnik Go To PostA draw would be a miracle at this point.You're moving dangerously into Hitch territory.
By Pennywise Go To PostYou're moving dangerously into Hitch territory.You say it like it's a bad thing.
I've been mostly right about our recent performances and consequent results so far. A trend that will continue after tonight, I can assure you.
By Pennywise Go To PostHe's not.this tends to happen with managers who heavily favor tactics over the human aspect, Tuchel would be a one season fix for arsenal, he would get burned by his 2nd season because the players can't cope with so many demands and, as you say, being overloaded with information
While he is a good coach, he still lacked the balance of asking for the right amount of flexibility. He often overloaded the team with his ideas, especially when there were new players or those that weren't flexibel to begin with.
And he burned bridges with the entire club, it's somewhat telling that people from all levels of the club genuinely hated him and you heard the same stories from Mainz. Motivating the team by splitting them into groups still has lasting effects to this day, so he can get fucked.
He's a good coach that happens to be stoic with some of his decisions. A terrible human being though and I dunno how that would fit into Arsenal, as long as they got no sport director who manages the transfers and other things. Also Mislintat and Tuchel would never work out.
Think he would be a good fit as well, but there are some questionable points.
for as much as Tuchel knows about football, he sort of disregards players and that doesn't work unless you have very specific conditions
the only managers that come to mind that find a somewhat happy medium between both things is... Sarri and Pep, maybe. Some players need an ass kicking, some need a pat on the back.
By batong Go To PostShanks fuming
Every Arsenal fan and I would rightfully be fuming.
If Wenger leaves we have potentially 12 million a year to play with. If we can't attract top managers with that type of money then I don't know what we are doing.
And I have seen people say that we are a selling club and no top manager would want to come here. I just think that is a load of bollox. We sell players because we have been shit and they have wanted to leave. We don't sell players just for a profit. The last players who I think we sold when we really didn't want to were Ade, Nasri, and Fabregas. Everyone else was not a lockdown starter. We sold RVP and Sanchez, but that was more that we had fucked up badly with contracts and it was clear they didn't want to be here anymore.
I don't know if there are many clubs that are more appealing than us. The Spanish two, United, Bayern, Juve, and Chelsea. We have world class facilities, a brilliant history, and can offer great wages. There is also the added appeal of turning our fortunes around.
Um, pep is that kind of manager. He needs soldiers and doesn't work with those with strong characters.
He definitely favor tactics over the human aspect.
He definitely favor tactics over the human aspect.
By Zabojnik Go To PostYou say it like it's a bad thing.
I've been mostly right about our recent performances and consequent results so far. A trend that will continue after tonight, I can assure you.
We are gonna lock Immobile down. Although, I think he is on something like 32 goals in 32 games across all competitions.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostUm, pep is that kind of manager. He needs soldiers and doesn't work with those with strong characters.he has had to deal with a lot of egos, he is not that kind of manager
He definitely favor tactics over the human aspect.
how many world class players has Pep managed in his 3 clubs? Literally dozens. He does favor tactics over the human aspect, but he finds a much better balance between the two than other like-minded managers. Look at Sacchi, he ran those teams into the ground, yet you can't name one manager that was at his level in terms of football. They smashed Europe around for a couple of seasons. Of course he greatly benefited from having a bunch of world class players, but after some time the players just told him to fuck off.
Tuchel is the sort of manager that will find incredible success managing 6th and 7th place teams, because they don't have much to go by other than your tactical model. If he has to manage players that earn ridiculous wages? Have big egos? They'll buy into his stuff as long as he produces results, as soon as he doesn't, it's over.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostEvery Arsenal fan and I would rightfully be fuming.Worth considering which clubs are going to be looking for new managers this summer. Madrid, PSG, Bayern and Chelsea almost certainly will. Man U is a distinct possibility. Dortmund will, as will Atletico, but I don't think they would be able to compete with Arsenal. There will also be some national teams after the world cup. And if the likes of Sarri and Poch don't leave their clubs then that reduces the pool of available managers, more so if Simeone ends up going to Inter.
If Wenger leaves we have potentially 12 million a year to play with. If we can't attract top managers with that type of money then I don't know what we are doing.
And I have seen people say that we are a selling club and no top manager would want to come here. I just think that is a load of bollox. We sell players because we have been shit and they have wanted to leave. We don't sell players just for a profit. The last players who I think we sold when we really didn't want to were Ade, Nasri, and Fabregas. Everyone else was not a lockdown starter. We sold RVP and Sanchez, but that was more that we had fucked up badly with contracts and it was clear they didn't want to be here anymore.
I don't know if there are many clubs that are more appealing than us. The Spanish two, United, Bayern, Juve, and Chelsea. We have world class facilities, a brilliant history, and can offer great wages. There is also the added appeal of turning our fortunes around.
It's not hard to imagine Arsenal being left with a choice between Ancelotti or taking a chance on a lower level manager.
By sohois Go To PostWorth considering which clubs are going to be looking for new managers this summer. Madrid, PSG, Bayern and Chelsea almost certainly will. Man U is a distinct possibility. Dortmund will, as will Atletico, but I don't think they would be able to compete with Arsenal. There will also be some national teams after the world cup. And if the likes of Sarri and Poch don't leave their clubs then that reduces the pool of available managers, more so if Simeone ends up going to Inter.
It's not hard to imagine Arsenal being left with a choice between Ancelotti or taking a chance on a lower level manager.
Good point.
Mou to Madrid
Conte to PSG
Enrique to Chelsea
Blanc to United
Allegri to Arsenal
Simeone to Inter
Sarri to Juve
Ancelotti to Italy
Some 12 y.o to Bayern.
