I love my OLED. That new Samsung sounds impressive though. Maybe a bit pricey compared to the £1500, buy now pay in 12 months, that I got my TV for.
I'm sure it'll come down from the MSRP over the course of the year.
I'm sure it'll come down from the MSRP over the course of the year.
By Kibner Go To PostIn Smokey's quote:
That's also MSRP. Street pricing will be lower.
The Samsung sounds impressive, but I can't spend 3 racks on a TV that doesn't have a major HDR standard (Dolby Vision).
They are going with HDR10+. A proprietary HDR standard that is able to gave dynamic metadata like Dolby Vision, but is free. DV you have to pay licensing costs. Amazon is only service that is on board with HDR10+ at the moment.
But this TV does feature VRR ( Variable Refresh Rate) which the One X can take advantage of...
But this TV does feature VRR ( Variable Refresh Rate) which the One X can take advantage of...
DV = G-Sync
HDR10+ = Freesync
If those were the only two HDR standards at play, it wouldn't be too bad. There are others, unfortunately.
Why can't anything ever be easy with these video industry cunts.
HDR10+ = Freesync
If those were the only two HDR standards at play, it wouldn't be too bad. There are others, unfortunately.
Why can't anything ever be easy with these video industry cunts.
By Zabojnik Go To PostDV = G-Sync
HDR10+ = Freesync
If those were the only two HDR standards at play, it wouldn't be too bad. There are others, unfortunately.
Why can't anything ever be easy with these video industry cunts.
I mean...you still get HDR10. But DV is better in every way and is gaining way more traction on Netflix,Apple 4K TV, and physical releases.
By Smokey Go To PostI mean…you still get HDR10. But DV is better in every way and is gaining way more traction on Netflix,Apple 4K TV, and physical releases.I don't even consider HDR10. It should've never been approved.
I was thinking about getting one of the latest and greatest OPPO, but, *phew*, I think they are a little too rich for my taste. At least. with how little I watch movies. Especially since I only have a stereo setup instead of surround.
Dreaming of a 75'' TV, took measurements of current distance to the 65'' OLED. We're at about 11.5 ft. From RTings
a 75" minimum is recommended for this distance for a 4k tv. All I needed to know. I now have the evidence to move forward in 2019/2020. 77'' OLED mmmmm
a 75" minimum is recommended for this distance for a 4k tv. All I needed to know. I now have the evidence to move forward in 2019/2020. 77'' OLED mmmmm
By Kibner Go To PostYou ain't gonna link that, bro?
am i...supposed to?
By Smokey Go To Postam i…supposed to?Yeah, so other people can use it for their own homes!
And I found it: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship
I'm about 8 ft away so 55" is what they recommend.
By Kibner Go To PostYeah, so other people can use it for their own homes!
And I found it: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship
I'm about 8 ft away so 55" is what they recommend.
oh my bad lol
thought i mentioned it was from rtings, but it doesn't sound like it from the post.
but anyway after i got over the size of the 65'', i've been like a 75''+ would be PERFECT. Just never looked at any official charts. The 2018 65'' C8 has a MSRP of 3.8k...the 77'' C8 has a MSRP of 10k. And that's a drop from I think the 15k that was being asked for the 2017 models.
whew
By Smokey Go To Post
Interested to see what's up. Vizio been on the come up for awhile.
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/4/10/17216688/vizio-2018-4k-tv-p-series-quantum-m-series-pricing-features-release-date
At the top of the 2018 family is an entirely new flagship, the P-Series Quantum. Available only in a 65-inch model, the P-Series Quantum is the company’s brightest TV yet and reaches peak brightness of 2,000 nits. It’s priced at $2,199.99, which is higher than the $1,799.99 asking price for Vizio’s non-Quantum P-Series in the same size. The P-Series Quantum will be released sometime this summer, trailing the rest of the lineup by a bit.
That regular 2018 P-Series is no slouch either. It doesn’t have the quantum dot tech or as many dimming zones, but it does have the “bezel-less design,” albeit with a more noticeable silver chin at the bottom of the display. That’s still a very nice improvement over the obvious silver border that framed the screen on its predecessor. The number of dimming zones in the new P-Series depends on size: the 55-inch model has 56, 65-inch has 100, and the 75-inch TV has 120. Peak HDR brightness is advertised as 1,000 nits — another nice bump over the older P-Series. As always, it’s got Dolby Vision HDR built in. All sizes are using VA panels this year, including the 55-inch variant which differed from the rest of the line with an IPS panel last time around.
2018 P-Series pricing:
75-inch $2,599.99
65-inch: $1,799.99
55-inch: $1,199.99
Samsung is the only hold out of Dolby Vision in US. Meanwhile they and Panasonic are the only ones supporting Samsungs propietary HDR10+. Idiots. They're gonna have to cave eventually.
Looks like my Chromecast Ultra supports HDR10 & Dolby Vision. I have no idea what HEVC HLG is in that chart, though.
By Kibner Go To PostLooks like my Chromecast Ultra supports HDR10 & Dolby Vision. I have no idea what HEVC HLG is in that chart, though.Broadcast HDR in UK/Japan. I don't believe the ATSC standard has defined what they will use for HDR broadcasts yet.
2018 models looks much brighter, but looks to lose some of the tone mapping detail of the 2017, most notably on the ground.
Man, these OLED TVs are great, I just wish they'd make them in 32-40" sizes for PC use. Something that could be used as a secondary monitor, for gaming and watching video, since traditional desktop use is not an option for obvious reasons.
On second look at the video I posted, the 2018 is what I'd expect a bright ass Egyptian day to look like.
Can't wait for #2020. OLED will (should) really drop in price with the opening of LGs new factory, HDMI 2.1, VRR, and Xbox One Two and PS5.
Can't wait for #2020. OLED will (should) really drop in price with the opening of LGs new factory, HDMI 2.1, VRR, and Xbox One Two and PS5.
Not sure I see enough to justify the 1K+ difference between the c7 and c8 models. I am getting a TV in the next few weeks so I I will probably go for C7. Or I guess I could get some cheaper hold over like a 2018 TCL 6 series/Vizio P (depending on price and reviews) and then look at OLEDs again in a few years.
By RATHasReturned Go To PostLG OLED is still the best for 65" 4K with HDR?
It depends on your viewing, but overall as a TV, yes. The LEDs get brighter, but OLED's contrast and infinite black evens it out imo.
By jjasper Go To PostNot sure I see enough to justify the 1K+ difference between the c7 and c8 models. I am getting a TV in the next few weeks so I I will probably go for C7. Or I guess I could get some cheaper hold over like a 2018 TCL 6 series/Vizio P (depending on price and reviews) and then look at OLEDs again in a few years.
I wouldn't spent $2,000+ on a TV this year. We're really close to VRR (variable refresh rate) and HDMI 2.1 being implemented. VRR even in its early form, is on Samsung's new high end Q9.
By jjasper Go To PostNot sure I see enough to justify the 1K+ difference between the c7 and c8 models. I am getting a TV in the next few weeks so I I will probably go for C7. Or I guess I could get some cheaper hold over like a 2018 TCL 6 series/Vizio P (depending on price and reviews) and then look at OLEDs again in a few years.TCL is pretty dang good. I would go with them and wait because, like Smokey mentioned, VRR and HDMI 2.1 are pretty big for gaming.
Also, the price for OLEDs should hopefully come down even more by then.
By Smokey Go To PostI wouldn't spent $2,000+ on a TV this year. We're really close to VRR (variable refresh rate) and HDMI 2.1 being implemented. VRR even in its early form, is on Samsung's new high end Q9.
By Kibner Go To PostTCL is pretty dang good. I would go with them and wait because, like Smokey mentioned, VRR and HDMI 2.1 are pretty big for gaming.Yeah this is kind of what I have been thinking but I can get the B7 at target for 1599 with 5% off which is pretty tempting.
Also, the price for OLEDs should hopefully come down even more by then.
Anything will be an improvement over this shit samsung I got 4 years ago.
If you got the cash, go after the B7. It's a good TV. TCL stuff is real damn good for the price, too, but you obviously won't be getting OLED with them.
I just wouldn't break the bank getting a real nice TV this year when we are on the cusp of getting some important changes for gaming.
I just wouldn't break the bank getting a real nice TV this year when we are on the cusp of getting some important changes for gaming.
Good information as always. I'll hold off a little bit longer and wait. God of War was gonna make be go out and get an OLED this weekend, but I'll wait.
So at A8F review. 50ms input lag is TERRIBLE. LG OLEDs get < 25ms. On top of that , this panel isn't any brighter than their 2017 A1E
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1523863026
But here is a really good take on OLED vs LED:
Basically what I've been getting at, but stated in a much clearer way. I've noticed this when I've looked at top end LEDs. Yes it's bright, but that "pop" isn't there compared to OLED (but still a very very very good picture, no mistake about it)
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1523863026
But here is a really good take on OLED vs LED:
OLED continues to trail the best LCD TVs in terms of peak brightness but because OLED has far superior control (on a pixel level) of luminance and color, it wins whenever there are both bright and dark areas in a movie scene. HDR video on OLED looks nothing less than stunning and beat any LCD TV out there, which is further cemented by the fact that HDR looks great even when watching the OLED TV off-axis. HDR performance on LCDs suffers significantly when moving away from the sweet spot
Basically what I've been getting at, but stated in a much clearer way. I've noticed this when I've looked at top end LEDs. Yes it's bright, but that "pop" isn't there compared to OLED (but still a very very very good picture, no mistake about it)
By reilo Go To Post50ms? WTF Sony
They used to be near the top in that category, what happened?
No clue. Them out of all manufacturers, you'd think would have a vested interest in getting them category as low as possible vs the field.
At this point there's really no reason to pay more for Sony's OLED models.
E: actually that may be a 1080p input lag number, not 4k. Still high though.
Well I happened to stop at a TV store by my wife’s work on a whim and they had the 55c7 for 1399 so I jumped on it.
By jjasper Go To PostWell I happened to stop at a TV store by my wife’s work on a whim and they had the 55c7 for 1399 so I jumped on it.Should be happy with it!
By jjasper Go To PostYeah I pretty excited. Now I got to figure out which 4K steaming box to getI just use a Chromecast Ultra. :v
By jjasper Go To PostYeah I pretty excited. Now I got to figure out which 4K steaming box to get
DirecTV is doing a "free" Apple 4k tv when you prepay for 3 months of service. So if you do the $35 a month package, you can get a A4K for $105.
By jjasper Go To PostI am pretty sure after 2 hours with it I can never go back to LEDLmao
Be sure to read my OP and find settings for your TV on rtings to make it look the best it can.
By jjasper Go To PostI am pretty sure after 2 hours with it I can never go back to LED
:)
make sure you enable Deep Color on each HDMI input. This is what enables HDR when an appropriate device is plugged into the port.
