DWill still has the ability to be a good set up man for teammates. He would probably be good on the Rockets. Could get Dwight some easy buckets.
I find the idea that the Knicks are specifically looking for a coach to run the triangle a bit baffling. You should be adapting to the personnel you have, not trying to build a team to fit this system that has only ever worked when you had Jordan or Kobe. That's some Rambis/Kahn thinking.
I find the idea that the Knicks are specifically looking for a coach to run the triangle a bit baffling. You should be adapting to the personnel you have, not trying to build a team to fit this system that has only ever worked when you had Jordan or Kobe. That's some Rambis/Kahn thinking.
It's not crazy if they adapt it around the personnel a little.
No system will work without greqt players but Pop uses a system that he plugs players into and then makes slight adjustments according their strengths. If New York can't sign great players or draft them then it's a moot point.
I find the idea that the Knicks are specifically looking for a coach to run the triangle a bit baffling. You should be adapting to the personnel you have, not trying to build a team to fit this system that has only ever worked when you had Jordan or Kobe. That's some Rambis/Kahn thinking.
If Luke Fucking Walton is mentioned as a candidate......
No more words needed.
After missing out on Steve Kerr, a source has indicated that Phil Jackson is open to hiring a head coach who doesn’t specialize in running the triangle offense (Berman, May 16).
According to Marc Berman, the potential willingness to bring in a non-triangle head coach could open the door for Mark Jackson, who was recently fired by Golden State.
Aside from Jackson, Phil Jackson is reportedly interested in Derek Fisher (who is still playing for the Thunder), Brian Shaw (who has stated that he’s happy with the Nuggets), and Nate McMillan, among others.On ESPN Radio on Friday, Stephen A. Smith reported that Brian Shaw, currently serving as head coach of the Nuggets, is attempting to get out of his contract in order to become head coach of the Knicks (Stephen A. Smith, ESPN Radio).If Shaw can get out w/o Knicks having to give up compensation that'd be a steal. Shaw and Jackson are really the top two guys right now, coach doesn't need to be well versed in the triangle as long as you have assistants who are.
Phil Jackson and The Knicks were recently linked to Shaw, and it was reported Thursday that he was happy in Denver.
Also word is Phil Jackson informed Raymond Felton that he will look to trade him this offseason. I think this (plus a few Nets 1st rounders) is fair. ;)
I really don't want Mark Jackson. But a Brian Shaw and Scottie Pippen duo would be pretty fantastic (Pippen is on the list as one of the primary assistant coaches).
Not sure if this was posted, but I'm glad Phil is sticking to his guns and not blowing loads of money and giving in like Dolan would have.
Apparently, the annual salary was set: $4.4 million. The question was, over how many years? That’s where the New York Knicks allegedly bungled negotiations with Steve Kerr, their No. 1 coaching candidate who wound up agreeing to a deal with the Golden State Warriors instead.
Marc Berman, who covers the Knicks for the New York Post, related the tale of dickering gone awry:
The Post has learned [Phil] Jackson’s initial offer to Kerr was a lowball of three years, $13.2 million. That offer stuck for more than a week before the Warriors got involved Tuesday. Kerr wound up agreeing to terms with Golden State on a five-year, $22 million contract — not the $25 million that was widely reported.
Had the Knicks originally offered Kerr five years, $22 million — $4.4 million a year — he probably would have closed the deal before Golden State could reenter the fray. Jackson only bumped the offer to four years in response to Golden State’s offer.
A source said Kerr wasn’t moving across the country for less money than the Warriors were offering. The Knicks have insisted Jackson, not owner James Dolan, handled the negotiations. Kerr never spoke to Dolan during the process, meeting with general manager Steve Mills and basketball operations director Jamie Mathews.
Again, having a coaching staff consisting of Brian Shaw, Pippen, and even Rambis...that would be one fantastic staff with or without Melo, as much as pains me to say.
And trading away Felton? God I hope he really did let him know, I can't wait to get rid of that bum for good.
I find the idea that the Knicks are specifically looking for a coach to run the triangle a bit baffling. You should be adapting to the personnel you have, not trying to build a team to fit this system that has only ever worked when you had Jordan or Kobe. That's some Rambis/Kahn thinking.
But fuck our personnel though. Hopefully Phil is getting rid of all of them. I agree about the triangle though.
There are five teams (including the Cavs) still looking for head coaches. If one of them wants UConn’s Kevin Ollie, it’s going to cost them. One source with knowledge of at least one team’s coaching search said Ollie will want a contract larger than the five-year, $25 million deal the Golden State Warriors handed Steve Kerr. The reasoning is simple: Ollie has a longer record of success and accomplished more (won a national title) than Kerr.http://www.ohio.com/sports/cavs/ohio-state-s-aaron-craft-knows-he-ll-have-to-improve-shot-to-stick-in-nba-1.488634
And trading away Felton? God I hope he really did let him know, I can't wait to get rid of that bum for good.It's gonna be funny when they can't find anyone willing to take him and Felton gets stuck as a Knick after all that talk.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/lawrence-dolan-gilbert-meddling-hazard-teams-health-article-1.1796220
sorry rodeo
Kevin Love’s people reiterated to the Timberwolves this past week that they had better trade him or else he’ll leave via free agency when his contract is up after next season. With Love looking to exit, there’s your No. 1 reason the T-wolves have not been able to find a head coach to take over for Rick Adelman. Love wants to play for the Lakers but he’s also open to coming to the Knicks.
sorry rodeo
Stat or Bargnani but not both.Ehh I MIGHT give up Bargs for Love, but I doubt it. Kevin Love can't stop Dwight Howard like Bargs can.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/lawrence-dolan-gilbert-meddling-hazard-teams-health-article-1.1796220Kevin Love’s people reiterated to the Timberwolves this past week that they had better trade him or else he’ll leave via free agency when his contract is up after next season. With Love looking to exit, there’s your No. 1 reason the T-wolves have not been able to find a head coach to take over for Rick Adelman. Love wants to play for the Lakers but he’s also open to coming to the Knicks.
sorry rodeo
There is a shining light in all of this
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--sam-mitchell-emerges-as-minnesota-candidate-with-kevin-love-s-future-undecided-074004019-nba.html
As the Minnesota Timberwolves consider the future of All-Star forward Kevin Love, Sam Mitchell has emerged as a serious candidate for the franchise's head coaching job, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
Also
The Boston Celtics, Golden State Warriors, Los Angeles Lakers and Phoenix Suns are among many teams determined to make hard runs at trades for Love, league sources said. Boston and Los Angeles plan to make high-lottery picks in the 2014 NBA Draft available in offers for Love, sources said.
What the fuck can Boston even offer? Rondo to pair with Rubio?
The Suns would be an interesting one.
What the fuck can Boston even offer? Rondo to pair with Rubio?
Uh...the #5 pick in the draft. Not that I think Love would feel comfortable heading there as much as Boston loves their white people.
5th pick + anything else Boston has is a good offer, Minny would be lucky to get it.
Klove seems like the type to not only refuse to verbally agree to re-up in Boston but guarantee he'll bolt for NY or LA at the end of the season.
This might be another Dwight situation where teams have offers but aren't willing to give up the world without an understanding that he'll stick around. Not that this went well for LA last time an asshole bigman said they'd only resign in LA.
Klove seems like the type to not only refuse to verbally agree to re-up in Boston but guarantee he'll bolt for NY or LA at the end of the season.
This might be another Dwight situation where teams have offers but aren't willing to give up the world without an understanding that he'll stick around. Not that this went well for LA last time an asshole bigman said they'd only resign in LA.
Lakers really need to be patient. Magic, Worthy, Kobe...all of those guys came through high draft picks. If Love truly wants to be a Laker then he'll wait one year.
Lakers really need to be patient. Magic, Worthy, Kobe…all of those guys came through high draft picks. If Love truly wants to be a Laker then he'll wait one year.
Agreed. I don't really even want KLove at least not right now. Kobe/Love ain't winning shit and he isn't good enough to be the man.
In the 2016 off season Durant and Love will both be UFA if neither extend before then...a man can dream.
Love+Kobe+Nash+Swag+$10m in cap space probably could get to... 30 wins? Is Love picking out the worst roster in the league that he can go to to keep up the playoff-less streak?
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10949807/kevin-love-tells-minnesota-timberwolves-sign-extension-likes-chicago-bulls-golden-state-warriors
Omg. Steph and Love pick and roll would be fucking unstoppable. Btw, I would trade klay / Barnes / Lee for love right now.
Kevin Love has made it clear to the Timberwolves that he intends to become an unrestricted free agent after next season and has no interest in a contract extension this summer to stay in Minnesota, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.
Although sources say Love has stopped short of demanding a trade, his position could effectively force the Timberwolves to deal the All-Star forward before next season – or before the trade deadline in February 2015 at the latest – if they hope to dodge the risk of losing him without compensation.
Kevin Love
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Kevin Love has told the Timberwolves that he is not interested in a long-term deal to stay in Minnesota, according to sources.
Sources told ESPN.com that the Golden State Warriors and Chicago Bulls are among the potential trade destinations that intrigue Love.
The Los Angeles Lakers and New York Knicks have likewise been mentioned all season as big-market landing spots that would tempt Love, but going to the best situation for immediate contention is said to be the power forward's priority.
Sources say that the Phoenix Suns, armed with several draft assets to offer Minnesota, also have strong interest in trading for Love, but the 25-year-old's interest in joining the Suns is unclear.
Any team that trades for Love before he hits the open market in 2015 would naturally need assurances that they can keep him before surrendering quality assets.
The Timberwolves, at the behest of owner Glen Taylor, have rebuffed all trade interest in Love for months, clinging to hope that they can still sell him on committing for the long term and relying at least partly on the belief that he would be unwilling to walk away from the extra year – worth roughly $30 million – in his next deal that he can only get from Minnesota if he becomes an unrestricted free agent.
But sources say Love has stressed to the Timberwolves that he's desperate to get to a winning situation and that the constant losing has worn on him. Minnesota has yet to reach the playoffs in Love's six pro seasons and endured a particularly disappointing 2013-14 season, missing out on a top-eight spot in the West thanks in part to a number of close-game defeats.
The uncertainty surrounding Love's future, sources say, has complicated Minnesota's search for a new coach.
ESPN.com reported last month that the Wolves would pursue three of the most high-profile names in the college game to replace the retiring Rick Adelman – Michigan State's Tom Izzo, Florida's Billy Donovan and Iowa State's Fred Hoiberg – but quickly discovered they have little chance to lure any coach already under contract in a good situation without clarity regarding Love.
Sources told ESPN.com this week that veteran coach Scott Skiles is among the candidates Wolves president Flip Saunders has interviewed in his search for Adelman's successor.
Yahoo! Sports reported Sunday that Saunders has also interviewed former Wolves forward Sam Mitchell, while the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported in Sunday's editions that he has likewise interviewed former Memphis Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins.
Sources say the possibility remains that Saunders will move downstairs to coach the Wolves himself for a second time, but his focus to date has been trying to find a coach and plot roster moves that would entice Love to stay in the Twin Cities.
Sources say that the Warriors, in particular, have emerged as a top contender for Love should Minnesota relent and decide to trade him. The Warriors don't have a stash of draft picks to offer the Wolves like Phoenix or the Boston Celtics could offer, but Golden State could assemble a trade package featuring the likes of forwards Harrison Barnes and David Lee.
ESPN.com reported in March that rumblings about the Lakers using their forthcoming high lottery pick to try to tempt the Wolves into trading Love were already in circulation.
The lottery to determine the order for the June 26 draft is Tuesday.
ESPN.com also reported in March that Taylor has remained determined to keep resisting all trade offers for his franchise player until, as one source put it, he "has no choice."
Teams around the league are increasingly expected to test that resolve once the lottery order is established
Omg. Steph and Love pick and roll would be fucking unstoppable. Btw, I would trade klay / Barnes / Lee for love right now.
Love is gonna end up in Boston (they got a fuckton of draft picks thanks to Brooklyn) and Sam Mitchell will be their next coach? I'm so sorry Rodeo.
Lol trueBtw, I would trade klay / Barnes / Lee for love right now.Of course you would. It's a shitty offer.
Boston is more interesting than LA for Love, but you still have to wonder if Rondo is going to be even back to his prior level after his injuries.
Love is gonna end up in Boston (they got a fuckton of draft picks thanks to Brooklyn) and Sam Mitchell will be their next coach? I'm so sorry Rodeo.I don't actually think that's the worst case scenario. I'm not in love with the idea of the Smitch, but I don't have any problems sending Love to Boston. Their lottery pick this year, plus some of the cache of firsts they have, well, we could do a lot worse than that. We'd probably have to take Jeff Green to make it work and we all know how I feel about him, but I would still probably do it.
Scott Skiles?
I'm so sorry Rodeo.
um fuck no lul
I'm so sorry Rodeo.
Love is gonna end up in Boston (they got a fuckton of draft picks thanks to Brooklyn) and Sam Mitchell will be their next coach? I'm so sorry Rodeo.I don't actually think that's the worst case scenario. I'm not in love with the idea of the Smitch, but I don't have any problems sending Love to Boston. Their lottery pick this year, plus some of the cache of firsts they have, well, we could do a lot worse than that. We'd probably have to take Jeff Green to make it work and we all know how I feel about him, but I would still probably do it.
um fuck no lul
If Boston isn't willing to part with their pick this year, then what the fuck are we even talking about. It's their best asset and those conversations start and end there. 2014 first, plus future considerations and some salary to make it work (NOT GERALD WALLACE). That's the deal.
Minn pretty much has to get draft picks. No way they bring in more people who'll just leave when they can.
Doesn't Phoenix have like 4 first round draft picks this year? They could offer a nice package for Love but I wouldn't want them to give up too much talent for a guy that could walk.
Minn pretty much has to get draft picks. No way they bring in more people who'll just leave when they can.Pretty much. Need guys that the Wolves can have under team control for several years, if they break right. Plus, don't bring back garbage, overpaid vets like David Lee.
Doesn't Phoenix have like 4 first round draft picks this year? They could offer a nice package for Love but I wouldn't want them to give up too much talent for a guy that could walk.None of those picks are good enough. They're all 14 or later.
Draft is pretty deep but yeah, the Suns would have to give up major talent for the Wolves to even consider.Minn pretty much has to get draft picks. No way they bring in more people who'll just leave when they can.Pretty much. Need guys that the Wolves can have under team control for several years, if they break right. Plus, don't bring back garbage, overpaid vets like David Lee.Doesn't Phoenix have like 4 first round draft picks this year? They could offer a nice package for Love but I wouldn't want them to give up too much talent for a guy that could walk.None of those picks are good enough. They're all 14 or later.
I don't see Boston giving up it's first though.
Draft is pretty deep but yeah, the Suns would have to give up major talent for the Wolves to even consider.Then they don't get Kevin Love. They'd be getting a getting a top-10 player in return, the no. 5 pick isn't that much to ask.
I don't see Boston giving up it's first though.
If Boston isn't willing to part with their pick this year, then what the fuck are we even talking about. It's their best asset and those conversations start and end there. 2014 first, plus future considerations and some salary to make it work (NOT GERALD WALLACE). That's the deal.
It's called being patient
The C's have like three 1st rounders from Brooklyn in 16, 17, 18, their own first in 2015 and 2016, a Brooklyn or Atlanta first THIS year, and LAC's 1st in 2015.
Like, yes, you absolutely let them keep their 1st this year for the possibility of getting like three Brooklyn 1sts a few years from now when that team has a great chance of being complete shit. Even if they don't, that's still an incredible haul. Teams have lost superstars for literally nothing.
lol Minny is gonna get trash or they're gonna get nothing. Nothing might be better than David Lee's contract.
I hope Love walks.
I hope Love walks.
lol Minny is gonna get trash or they're gonna get nothing. Nothing might be better than David Lee's contract.True. Lee is asscheecks
I hope Love walks.
Truthfully, I'm just damn excited the Warriors name even came up as one of his few choices lol
A top 5 pick in this draft is what the Twolves should be after. I don't see this core getting anywhere in the West and with the right pick they can at least generate some excitement and give their fan base more false hopes for a few years.
Love wouldn't be talking about leaving if they played in the East though, since they would be in the playoffs every year. It's just unfortunate.
Love wouldn't be talking about leaving if they played in the East though, since they would be in the playoffs every year. It's just unfortunate.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 6m
Another contender planning aggressive play for a Kevin Love trade, sources tell Yahoo: Houston. Kevin McHale has strong bond with Love.
Mchale is gonna get an extension, just watch :lol:
Another contender planning aggressive play for a Kevin Love trade, sources tell Yahoo: Houston. Kevin McHale has strong bond with Love.
Mchale is gonna get an extension, just watch :lol:
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 6mDoes Morey not care about defense? Dude are gonna score 130 and give up 140.
Another contender planning aggressive play for a Kevin Love trade, sources tell Yahoo: Houston. Kevin McHale has strong bond with Love.
Mchale is gonna get an extension, just watch :lol:
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 6m
Another contender planning aggressive play for a Kevin Love trade, sources tell Yahoo: Houston. Kevin McHale has strong bond with Love.
Mchale is gonna get an extension, just watch :lol:
They can literally have anything outside of the big two. I dunno if they'd want anything we have to offer.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 6mDudes Morey not care about defense? Dude are gonna score 130 and give up 140.
Another contender planning aggressive play for a Kevin Love trade, sources tell Yahoo: Houston. Kevin McHale has strong bond with Love.
Mchale is gonna get an extension, just watch :lol:
It's apparent that Morey is only capable of tracking offensive stats.
His first move was firing JVG after all.
If Love is smart he says no to any Western team trade especially with Miami big three possibly being broken up this summer. If Boston gets Love and has room to sign another max guy, that would look like a real nice destination for Melo or Lebron.
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 6m
Another contender planning aggressive play for a Kevin Love trade, sources tell Yahoo: Houston. Kevin McHale has strong bond with Love.
Mchale is gonna get an extension, just watch :lol:
kadstradamus predicted this Wizard move. Keeping McHale right up until the Love chips fall then dropping his ass on the street.
Boston is more interesting than LA for Love, but you still have to wonder if Rondo is going to be even back to his prior level after his injuries.
And whether 2011 Rondo and Love is anywhere near a contender.