Blake was the reason i got back into the NBA so i will always have a soft spot in my heart for him. Wish him all the best in Detroit.
If this leads to Doc walking and they get a couple of good guys in the draft i will be excited again.
If this leads to Doc walking and they get a couple of good guys in the draft i will be excited again.
By Mariosalic Go To PostBlake was the reason i got back into the NBA so i will always have a soft spot in my heart for him. Wish him all the best in Detroit.The big plus side is that you have Jerry West running the FO now.
If this leads to Doc walking and they get a couple of good guys in the draft i will be excited again.
Which has basically meant chips everywhere else he's been.
By giririsss Go To PostThe big plus side is that you have Jerry West running the FO now.The griz chipped?
Which has basically meant chips everywhere else he's been.
By blackace Go To PostThe griz chipped?Their best decade was after he arrived.
Jerry West is really righting the ship over there.
Doc has no interest in rebuilds.
This is how the West* gets rid of Doc.
That's Jerry West to you.
Doc has no interest in rebuilds.
This is how the West* gets rid of Doc.
That's Jerry West to you.
By The Frankman Go To PostBest on the Cavs isn't a high bar.That's... kind of the point? Individual DRtg is so very heavily correlated with team DRtg that it is useless by itself with no context.
I've had time to think about the Blake Griffin trade... good job by the Clippers cashing out.. Completely forgot about the Warriors' effect.
By Kibner Go To PostThat's… kind of the point? Individual DRtg is so very heavily correlated with team DRtg that it is useless by itself with no context.Here's the context:
Out of necessity (owing to a lack of defensive data in the basic boxscore), individual Defensive Ratings are heavily influenced by the team's defensive efficiency. They assume that all teammates are equally good (per minute) at forcing non-steal turnovers and non-block misses, as well as assuming that all teammates face the same number of total possessions per minute.LeBron is not an excellent perimeter defender, nor does he steal the ball alot. I'd wager in past years going by the eye test his ratings were directly due to his teammates and not him. This season (and really the past 2 years) it's more him than his teammates. He's a disinterested help defender who doesn't really guard the other team's best threats, and his only real impact is the occasional chasedown block. In past years his sphere of defensive influence could negate his team's poor D if it existed, not so much now and it's as much him as the roster.
Perhaps as a byproduct, big men tend to have the best Defensive Ratings (although Oliver notes that history's best defensive teams were generally anchored by dominant defensive big men, suggesting that those types of players are the most important to a team's defensive success). A corollary to this is that excellent perimeter defenders who don't steal the ball a lot — for instance, Joe Dumars or Doug Christie — are underrated defensively by DRtg, and are prone to look only as good as their team's overall defense performs.
As a response to someone posting saying "LeBron can be elite on defense", you posted that image of the worst defensive rating in basketball, suggesting individual DRtg would completely preclude that.
Another poster said that individual DRtg is trash (which is true, go check Kawhi's last season as teams schemed him out).
You should stay with your argument that he's bad at defense now because he doesn't give a fuck, which is also true. But using individual DRtg is the laziest and up there with the least effective ways to use stats to demonstrate that.
Back to the original point, if he gave the bulk of his effort on D and let Harden and CP3 run the offense, that would make for a better overall team than letting CP3 focus on D and have LeBron do some heavy lifting on offense with Harden. Simply because LeBron is bigger and still has enough athleticism to make a difference.
Another poster said that individual DRtg is trash (which is true, go check Kawhi's last season as teams schemed him out).
You should stay with your argument that he's bad at defense now because he doesn't give a fuck, which is also true. But using individual DRtg is the laziest and up there with the least effective ways to use stats to demonstrate that.
Back to the original point, if he gave the bulk of his effort on D and let Harden and CP3 run the offense, that would make for a better overall team than letting CP3 focus on D and have LeBron do some heavy lifting on offense with Harden. Simply because LeBron is bigger and still has enough athleticism to make a difference.
Also, that quote explanation about DRtg is starting to be outdated as to who it values since defenses are moving away from an anchor big guy and moving towards someone who can switch and guard multiple positions on the perimeter and down low as the most important piece.
Knicks fans your boy is not about that tank life: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22257018/kristaps-porzingis-says-new-york-knicks-add-experience-trade-deadline
Told ya'll Philly was gonna make it in. Interesting to see how Kristaps reacts if they trade Thomas, Lee, Hernangomez, or Kanter for picks.
"Playoff experience for myself, individually, would be huge at this point in my career – the sooner, the better," Porzingis said Monday, when asked his opinion about the Knicks' approach at the Feb. 8 trade deadline. "And for most of the [Knicks] – most of the guys haven't felt that playoff experience that everybody talks about – that the guys talk about that have been there. For myself, selfishly I would want to play in the playoffs but we'll see what happens and how we can end the season."
Told ya'll Philly was gonna make it in. Interesting to see how Kristaps reacts if they trade Thomas, Lee, Hernangomez, or Kanter for picks.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2756488-cavs-front-office-mistakes-pushing-lebron-and-co-to-breaking-point
Thomas has become a favorite of Gilbert, and they often exchange calls and text messages, a league source familiar with their relationship told B/R. This isn't necessarily unusual on a team with an owner who is as involved in the basketball side of things as Gilbert is. It also isn't great for locker room chemistry, because the rest of the players know it.
As The Ringer's Kevin O'Connor reported after Irving was dealt to the Celtics in August (the holdup being Thomas' ailing hip), Gilbert was the driving force behind the trade—in large part due to how much he coveted the Celtics' unprotected first-round pick from the Nets.Why is the owner running the basketball ops for the Cavs
Sure enough, Gilbert was spotted with Altman and several Cavs scouts at the Oklahoma-Alabama game Saturday, taking in a matchup of two top points guards in the draft, Trae Young and Collin Sexton.
"The word is out that Dan is running things," a rival executive told B/R. "Frankly, that's where he's happiest and the role he's most comfortable in."
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostJohn out minimum 6 weeks.Simmons. Also:
Drummond all star? Kemba? Whiteside?
By Kibner Go To PostAs a response to someone posting saying "LeBron can be elite on defense", you posted that image of the worst defensive rating in basketball, suggesting individual DRtg would completely preclude that.My point is that even if he had better pieces around him he'd still be a poor defender, maybe not league worst but his best days at D are long gone. I think the teams' shit D hides him as much as it drags him down at this point, which is what my eyetest seems to imply.
Another poster said that individual DRtg is trash (which is true, go check Kawhi's last season as teams schemed him out).
You should stay with your argument that he's bad at defense now because he doesn't give a fuck, which is also true. But using individual DRtg is the laziest and up there with the least effective ways to use stats to demonstrate that.
Back to the original point, if he gave the bulk of his effort on D and let Harden and CP3 run the offense, that would make for a better overall team than letting CP3 focus on D and have LeBron do some heavy lifting on offense with Harden. Simply because LeBron is bigger and still has enough athleticism to make a difference.
By Kibner Go To PostAlso, that quote explanation about DRtg is starting to be outdated as to who it values since defenses are moving away from an anchor big guy and moving towards someone who can switch and guard multiple positions on the perimeter and down low as the most important piece.Pretty sure that's the team LeBron tried to construct and failed.
By s y Go To PostSimmons. Also:
Washington slipping to 7 and Boston slipping to 2 might actually work out well for WAS, especially if the Celtics have no plans to bring Hayward back this year.
By Sho_Nuff82 Go To PostKnicks fans your boy is not about that tank life: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22257018/kristaps-porzingis-says-new-york-knicks-add-experience-trade-deadlineI've said that for 3 months. I told masud if they try and do a blatant tank, see if KP sticks around. Hell, I think sometimes Knick fans deserve to see KP leave; enjoy that tank life then!
Told ya'll Philly was gonna make it in. Interesting to see how Kristaps reacts if they trade Thomas, Lee, Hernangomez, or Kanter for picks.
That being said, they need to trade one of Kanter/O'Quinn. Got to have a spot for Hernangomez. Heck, flip Beasley or Burke for a late 1st from a dumb team.
By The Frankman Go To PostPretty sure that's the team LeBron tried to construct and failed.Because he's spending his limited energy on offense instead of his defense. He could be nearly as impactful as Draymond on defense but chooses not to so he can save himself for offense.
e: also, not having enough other players with similar defensive versatility hurts them. crowder can kinda do it on wings, but not bigs and even then...
By The Frankman Go To PostI've said that for 3 months. I told masud if they try and do a blatant tank, see if KP sticks around. Hell, I think sometimes Knick fans deserve to see KP leave; enjoy that tank life then!
That being said, they need to trade one of Kanter/O'Quinn. Got to have a spot for Hernangomez. Heck, flip Beasley or Burke for a late 1st from a dumb team.
If the Knicks want to keep Kristaps happy and still be just bad enough to miss the playoffs, they could try to flip a few expirings + O'Quinn for a Lou Williams or Tyreke rental:
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yacxs67o
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yafejdd3
By jjasper Go To Postplease trade tyreke to the wizards for nothing
I was saying a few weeks back that the only teams that should be interested in giving up a first for a Tyreke rental are WAS and SAS.
By Sho_Nuff82 Go To Posthttp://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yacxs67oI don't dislike those moves, I really like the Tyreke one. I just question if Hornacek would ok it if it meant dealing Jarrett Jack. He's Ntilikina's mentor right now and the only vet PG on the roster; Frank isn't ready to start games yet. Knicks actually seem to like Burke but he can't start either.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yafejdd3
I was saying a few weeks back that the only teams that should be interested in giving up a first for a Tyreke rental are WAS and SAS.
By Smokey Go To PostJarret Jack?wow how will they live
boi
Wiz aren't trading a first for a role player again according to DA and I believe him. There's a limit to going that route and the wiz have reached it.
Not sure where Tyreke ends up. There's just not a lot of money available around the league at the moment
Not sure where Tyreke ends up. There's just not a lot of money available around the league at the moment
Tyreke isn't going to haul a first rounder. I hope he gets a couple second rounders but I wouldn't be surprised if it is less than that.
Knicks won't make a decent move before the ASG. Watch. They will carry on as is, and make moves during the summer.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostKnicks won't make a decent move before the ASG. Watch. They will carry on as is, and make moves during the summer.
For Lebron amirite
By Smokey Go To PostFor Lebron amirite
Nope. Just in general they'll pick up a few midgrade pieces.
They'd be stupid if they traded Lee though.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostNope. Just in general they'll pick up a few midgrade pieces.
They'd be stupid if they traded Lee though.
And Jarret Jack
I like how we went to "Not sure if Hornacek would want Jack dealt" in a theoretical deal to "Jack is untouchable".
when is the last time the Pelicans had a draft pick
By rodeoclown Go To PostMirotic is good, but why give up a first for a rental?they need to make the playoffs.
By rodeoclown Go To PostMirotic is good, but why give up a first for a rental?The year after this one is a team option.
By reilo Go To PostPelicans are idiots. Why are you sending a first round pick after the DeMarcus injury? Dear godThey still won't fall behind that many teams if they miss the playoffs so the pick itself will be a back lottery one. Assuming they have at least top 3 protection, anyway.
By diehard Go To Postwhen is the last time the Pelicans had a draft pick.Buddy Hield. AD and Austin before that.
By diehard Go To Postwhen is the last time the Pelicans had a draft pick
they need to make the playoffs.
Yeah this move smells like a FA strategy move where they can try and retain both Boogie and AD by saying "look we're serious about competing, we didn't just blow it all up at first injury"
By rodeoclown Go To PostMirotic is good, but why give up a first for a rental?
If the GM's worth his salt, it's because he has some assurance from the agent.
By livefromkyoto Go To PostIf the GM's worth his salt, it's because he has some assurance from the agent.Next season is also a team option, which helps with both keeping him for a run next season and also trading him during the off-season since he can just be cut before his contract guarantees.
By Moris Go To PostGiving up a first to make the playoffs when Boogie is out for the year is hella shortsighted.
Not if this is the thing that shows him you're serious and gets him to re-sign. Besides, everyone's saying this is a big man draft. Not worth snuffing the only momentum that franchise has had in years for positions that are the last thing that you need.
By Moris Go To PostGiving up a first to make the playoffs when Boogie is out for the year is hella shortsighted.If it is the 2018 draft, then whatever. If it is a future draft, then I would be worried. They are still not bad enough without Cousins to get a good draft pick this year.