Re: Politics | 2017 | "Troubling, if true", says GOP Congressman that does nothing when the allegations turn out to be true
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Learning US history in the UK was eye opening,
I don't know how history is taught in the States.
No censorship here when it came to lynching of blacks police brutally with dogs during the civil rights movement.
The holocaust bit of my A levels was harrowing.
But learning thus stuff is essential, lest future generations repeat the same mistakes.
I don't know how history is taught in the States.
No censorship here when it came to lynching of blacks police brutally with dogs during the civil rights movement.
The holocaust bit of my A levels was harrowing.
But learning thus stuff is essential, lest future generations repeat the same mistakes.
By Bold 2 in One Go To PostLearning US history in the UK was eye opening,
I don't know how history is taught in the States.
No censorship here when it came to lynching of blacks police brutally with dogs during the civil rights movement.
The holocaust bit of my A levels was harrowing.
But learning thus stuff is essential, lest future generations repeat the same mistakes.
It's not...fully. Americans have the audacity to talk down other countries about their rewriting of history (rightfully so), when we do the same: largely via omission and watering the facts down.
By EldritchTrapStar Go To PostIt's not…fully. Americans have the audacity to talk down other countries about their rewriting of history (rightfully so), when we do the same: largely via omission and watering the facts down.
Larger issue is it comes down to where you live in the US as well.
If you live in a pretty liberal state, you will end up learning some more of the detailed history vs. many of the more conservative states have some major historical revisionism or just omit things entirely.
By Bold 2 in One Go To PostLearning US history in the UK was eye opening,After learning about the States as a student in the UK, were you more relieved your people lost the colonies or did you feel more guilty about it as if you guys would have been more humane about it?
I don't know how history is taught in the States.
No censorship here when it came to lynching of blacks police brutally with dogs during the civil rights movement.
The holocaust bit of my A levels was harrowing.
But learning thus stuff is essential, lest future generations repeat the same mistakes.
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostAfter learning about the States as a student in the UK, were you more relieved your people lost the colonies or did you feel more guilty about it as if you guys would have been more humane about it?
Not sure if the UK has a ton of moral high ground to stand on tbh.
By HasphatsAnts Go To PostNot sure if the UK has a ton of moral high ground to stand on tbh.No country with hundreds of years of history does.
By Kibner Go To PostNo country with hundreds of years of history does.Pound for pound, in terms of years of history, who is the vilest villain of them all?
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostPound for pound, in terms of years of history, who is the vilest villain of them all?
This is sort of a challenging question because there's been so much flux over the last 100-200 years. At one point Germany was probably the most awful. Hasn't been that way for a half a century or more though. Now we're cracking jokes about Angela being the leader of the free world. Perspective also matters. If you're looking at it from the lens of imperialism, you'll get different results. South African is the result of imperialism for instance and they have the apartheid on their hands. The US at time has been the evil participant and at time not. How many genocides have happened? Russia? China? North Korea? Turkey?
By KingGondo Go To PostWhen the Dems offer them nothing and the Republicans offer them even one thing of substance, guess which one people are gonna pick?
Dems don't need to become rabidly pro-gun, but they need to offer solutions that address the basic economic and health insecurity that a huge number of people are needlessly experiencing every day.
People like Third Way can hardly even be counted as liberal. They should be booted to the fucking curb.
The dems offered people plenty in 2016. They packaged it with a poor salesman and racial animus won. "Trumped up Trickle Down" was actually a good catch phrase, didn't matter.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThe dems offered people plenty in 2016. They packaged it with a poor salesman and racial animus won. "Trumped up Trickle Down" was actually a good catch phrase, didn't matter.lmao
To respond with some substance: the Dems offered nothing that could be summed up as a slogan or as an appeal to emotional decency.
The basic question we're grappling with in this country is whether everyone deserves a basic degree of security from the worst things that life can throw at you. The Republicans say "HELL NO" loudly, and the Dems say "if you go to strongertogether.org and read our 15-point plan that includes job training and tax credits for small business owners you'll see that we are clearly the better option."
They need to stop marketing the wonkish stuff and talk about healthcare, a basic living wage, and retirement security as rights, not as benchmarks to be hopefully reached if we just keep on incrementally progressing for 50 more years.
People are hurting now and they don't. fucking. listen.
By KingGondo Go To Postlmao
/shrug
Your criticisms woukd carry more weight if you weren't constantly on team #demsaintshit
By KingGondo Go To PostTo respond with some substance: the Dems offered nothing that could be summed up as a slogan or as an appeal to emotional decency.
The basic question we're grappling with in this country is whether everyone deserves a basic degree of security from the worst things that life can throw at you. The Republicans say "HELL NO" loudly, and the Dems say "if you go to strongertogether.org and read our 15-point plan that includes job training and tax credits for small business owners you'll see that we are clearly the better option."
They need to stop marketing the wonkish stuff and talk about healthcare, a basic living wage, and retirement security as rights, not as benchmarks to be hopefully reached if we just keep on incrementally progressing for 50 more years.
People are hurting now and they don't. fucking. listen.
FYI ... this is a completely different opinion than "the dems aren't offering anything voters want". Messaging is an issue. So is racial animus. The messaging catch phrase the right developed played right into that animus too. Dems did also run on healthcare pretty openly as well as a minimum wage increase.
IMO dems real issue is breaking through the fox news propoganda being pushed. Which isn't going to be easy considering we'll now have to deal with social media helping to distort messages.
To some extent messaging only gets dems so far. This isn't an easy barrier to break into.
Well... I mean... it's hard not to be on team #demsaintshit... I'm actually considering switching my voting registration to Republican so I can be more effective at primarying Republicans than controlling any shitfaced thing the Dems and their health insurance overlords do anymore.
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostPound for pound, in terms of years of history, who is the vilest villain of them all?Look up Belgium's colonial past.
Shocking stuff
By Smoke Dogg Go To PostWell… I mean… it's hard not to be on team #demsaintshit… I'm actually considering switching my voting registration to Republican so I can be more effective at primarying Republicans than controlling any shitfaced thing the Dems and their health insurance overlords do anymore.
depending on the state you live in, this isn't a bad option.