By reilo Go To PostHolographic sound? Am I being trolled?Probably, but also much of this "hobby" is fake snake oil shit it's possible our boi is dead serious and got caught up in the hype.
Tube amp hype is a good example of brilliant marketing and "audiophile" wankery. Easily up there with stuff like DSD audio formats. Actually wanting distortion in your music is absurd to me, but there is merit to wanting a "warmer" sound or whatever, but you can get that from certain speakers instead of spending hundreds or thousands on stone-age tech that also functions as a safety hazard.
By MF Coom Go To PostWhy bother? It's holographic. Three-dimensional is a good way to explain it to novices.Like, what the fuck lol. My man said "50 percent better" I'm dying over here
When you close your eyes you can imagine walking around the singer and in between the instruments. It does that 50 percent better than solid state. The sense of layering is better and the higher priced tube amps create a better sense of air.
Then there's tube rolling. Tube rolling makes a big difference. There are so many varieties out there that you could easily pass a blind test because every model has their own sonic characteristic. I remember once going from one brand to another brand that I can hear the brightness gone completely just because I changed tubes.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostTube amp hype is a good example of brilliant marketing and "audiophile" wankery. Easily up there with stuff like DSD audio formats. Actually wanting distortion in your music is absurd to me, but there is merit to wanting a "warmer" sound or whatever, but you can get that from certain speakers instead of spending hundreds or thousands on stone-age tech that also functions as a safety hazard.I wouldn't expect you to understand what I'm on about because you've clearly never heard of such a thing. Either that or remain ignorant or start auditioning more 2 channel hi-fi systems and just educate yourself.
Like, what the fuck lol. My man said "50 percent better" I'm dying over here
By Perfect Blue Go To PostProbably, but also much of this "hobby" is fake snake oil shit it's possible our boi is dead serious and got caught up in the hype.I've got a bit of everything here so I'm in some position to form an opinion about the difference unlike you who vehemently dismisses everything that you've never listened to with your own ears as snake oil.
Someone asks if anyone has a tube amp. Another guy responds he has one and explains his personal reasons behind it. Then gets flamed by others. This is not really the way to have a constructive conversation about anything guys. We don't have to agree on everything but I think this thread is more fun if we all act kindly towards each others preferences and reasoning for having certain equipment.
As for myself, I decided to put in the order for the NAD C399 and the new Bluos MDC module. No idea when we have enough stock to fulfill staff orders but I imagine it's gonna take months. Since I'm making the step up from my current C368 I'm making a nice step. Packing more power, gaining EARC and Dirac functionality. That last thing being trough the module I'm adding. So yeah, something to look forward to.
As for myself, I decided to put in the order for the NAD C399 and the new Bluos MDC module. No idea when we have enough stock to fulfill staff orders but I imagine it's gonna take months. Since I'm making the step up from my current C368 I'm making a nice step. Packing more power, gaining EARC and Dirac functionality. That last thing being trough the module I'm adding. So yeah, something to look forward to.
By MF Coom Go To PostI wouldn't expect you to understand what I'm on about because you've clearly never heard of such a thing. Either that or remain ignorant or start auditioning more 2 channel hi-fi systems and just educate yourself.Of course I’m not going to agree or understand unquantifiable marketing spin. That’s precisely the point, lmao. It’s impossible to recognize this stuff in double blind tests because it doesn’t exist. “Tube sound” or whatever you want to call it is a myth, any actual differences with solid state is down to bad manufacturing and design of the tube amp to get the distortion. Fair enough if you’re fan for aesthetic reasons or like distorted sound or whatever else but to really say “50% better” than solid state is ridiculous and misleading to anyone who doesn’t know better.
I've got a bit of everything here so I'm in some position to form an opinion about the difference unlike you who vehemently dismisses everything that you've never listened to with your own ears as snake oil.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/if-tube-sound-is-a-myth-why-tubes.8656/
It's like talking to a brick wall. You just linked to something that has no bearing on what I was explaining. Might as well link to rottentomatoes.
I said it creates layers better than solid state. Like in a concert hall where the orchestra is sitting in rows. Painful to just spell it out for you.
I said it creates layers better than solid state. Like in a concert hall where the orchestra is sitting in rows. Painful to just spell it out for you.
I get exactly what you mean. And I’m saying it’s something that only exists in your own personal bias for the products you’ve bought. That’s okay, but it’s important to recognize this. Because, I’ll repeat, this stuff is impossible to point out or tell the difference in double blind tests between two properly designed amps, solid state or otherwise.
Great thing about audio equipment and sound in general is it’s totally objective and able to be accurately measured. Properly done tests like those found on Audio Science Review cut through so much of the BS of high fidelity audio equipment and the community.
Great thing about audio equipment and sound in general is it’s totally objective and able to be accurately measured. Properly done tests like those found on Audio Science Review cut through so much of the BS of high fidelity audio equipment and the community.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostBecause, I’ll repeat, this stuff is impossible to point out or tell the difference in double blind tests between two properly designed amps, solid state or otherwise.Once gain, I was talking about the a variety of tubes and not amps. You know that you can take them out and put in a different set, right? So, why even bring that up? Blind testing an amp is difficult but telling the difference between tubes is simple.
By MF Coom Go To PostOnce gain, I was talking about the a variety of tubes and not amps. You know that you can take them out and put in a different set, right? So, why even bring that up? Blind testing an amp is difficult but telling the difference between tubes is simple.Naw, bro that’s not what you said lol. You specifically said tube amps in your first reply to reilo asking why. The bit about the tubes themselves is just a personal preference which I recognize is a valid and totally understandable reason to be into tube amps. Still doesn’t make them better, though.
In any case I’ll agree to drop the topic since we will just go around in circles. Cheers.
I don't like to quote myself but just for you I'll make an exception.
By MF Coom Go To PostThen there's tube rolling. Tube rolling makes a big difference. There are so many varieties out there that you could easily pass a blind test because every model has their own sonic characteristic. I remember once going from one brand to another brand that I can hear the brightness gone completely just because I changed tubes.
Man y'all need to chill.
All I'll say is I get audio preferences and all but there's some terms that you used MF Coom that just sound straight science fiction to me. And as someone that comes from a background WRT tube amps from guitar, a lot of the stuff you're saying personally doesn't add up to me but at the end of the day it's your own preference like you said.
But please drop the "you wouldn't understand" nonsense.
All I'll say is I get audio preferences and all but there's some terms that you used MF Coom that just sound straight science fiction to me. And as someone that comes from a background WRT tube amps from guitar, a lot of the stuff you're saying personally doesn't add up to me but at the end of the day it's your own preference like you said.
But please drop the "you wouldn't understand" nonsense.
By reilo Go To PostMan y'all need to chill.They're common terms to describe the presentation, imaging etc. Linius probably uses those terms when he speaks to his customers. I can't imagine that he doesn't.
All I'll say is I get audio preferences and all but there's some terms that you used MF Coom that just sound straight science fiction to me. And as someone that comes from a background WRT tube amps from guitar, a lot of the stuff you're saying personally doesn't add up to me but at the end of the day it's your own preference like you said.
But please drop the "you wouldn't understand" nonsense.
So I can SEE ir?
Yo seriously I have told you a million times I have used tube amps playing guitar and I didn't see any notes flying out of the cab.
Yo seriously I have told you a million times I have used tube amps playing guitar and I didn't see any notes flying out of the cab.
By HonestVapes Go To Post
Thats awesome. I still have of ps lying around somewhere
By Kuma Go To PostThats awesome. I still have of ps lying around somewhereRead the thread a bit and it is apparently only the early PS's that were worth building around. They had different converters and output stages that were a step above most things out there.
I want this so bad: https://motu.com/en-us/products/gen5/ultralite-mk5/
Would be able to replace two pieces of gear with it (a behringer interface and a motu mixer). 600 USD, though...
Would be able to replace two pieces of gear with it (a behringer interface and a motu mixer). 600 USD, though...
Set up an NAD C268 power amplifier today. Using my Node 2i as the pre amp. Temporary setup since I already sold my c368. Sounds pretty amazing, it definitely packs more punch. I’ll enjoy this for a couple of months.
By Kuma Go To PostHow much do Dacs improve sound?In general, not much once you find quality ones around 100 USD. After that price point, you are looking for features more than performance.
Hell, there are audio interfaces with Dacs for under 100 USD that are perfectly fine for the vast majority of people and even come with quality, low-power headphone amps.
If you have a great pair of speakers, the very first thing that you should do is upgrade the dac. If you have an excellent dac, you can take a thirty dollar cd-player, take the digital output from it and plug it into that great dac and you will have spectacular sound.
If you do the opposite and you take a "meh" dac and put a ten thousand dollar source on it, It'll sound a little better but it will be like squeezing a perfect signal through something that doesn't really appreciate it.
So basically, if you take a Wallmart cd-player into a great dac it will always sound better than the opposite.
If you do the opposite and you take a "meh" dac and put a ten thousand dollar source on it, It'll sound a little better but it will be like squeezing a perfect signal through something that doesn't really appreciate it.
So basically, if you take a Wallmart cd-player into a great dac it will always sound better than the opposite.
The main things to look for with DACs are a capable chipset, the desired I/O, and proper signal shielding. It is hardest to find information on that last bit but the general rule of thumb is that units with external power supply (i.e. wall wart) are usually less noisy than ones with it built-in or get power over USB (which also can be relatively unstable). This is because the EMI of power sources and power conversion are relatively hard to shield against in small packages.
By Kuma Go To PostHow much do Dacs improve sound?Impossible to tell the difference in double blind tests on anything more than $100. Hell, if your source is a MacBook Pro you don’t even need an external DAC unless you just like buying audio equipment.
The more expensive ones come with extra features or have better construction but sound quality won’t get better.
Just got some Airpods Pro.
Fuck me, 20 minutes in my ear and they already feel like the greatest earpuds I have ever owned. The noise cancellation is amazing.
Fuck me, 20 minutes in my ear and they already feel like the greatest earpuds I have ever owned. The noise cancellation is amazing.
I can't stand hearing my own voice now when on a call with noise cancellation off because of them lol. They're pretty good for music, but they are easily great utility headphones.
Time to start splurge on some high end headphones. My Elegia and Sundaras are great daily drivers but I need some something with a little more pop
Dude I want to try electrostatic headphones but I am too poor lol I eend up get get the Focal Clear OG. I like the Focal house tuning. Manage to snag a used pair for $770 freedom bucks
By Kuma Go To PostDude I want to try electrostatic headphones but I am too poor lol I eend up get get the Focal Clear OG. I like the Focal house tuning. Manage to snag a used pair for $770 freedom bucksEntry level is affordable actually. Take a peek: https://www.headphoneauditions.nl/brand/stax/
By Lunatic Go To PostSeems like a good way to get that shit jacked.
Personally, I don't wear headphones in public. Just earbuds. If I'm really trying to listen to good music/audio it would be at home.