"Want to see a dead body?" | Reuters Investigates: The Body Trade
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I personally love the stuff Reuters run with sometimes and I thought I'd share one of the newer special reports here.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodies-brokers/
So.... as many know, I am often "triggered" by anything and everything Human Trafficking related. This though, is new to me - because even though I've heard of organ harvesting and all sorts of ridiculousness regarding the donors and malpractice, I didn't even know this sort of thing existed. And especially not at the levels discussed.
Way more at the link, and a very well done article - the first part of an ongoing series (Reuters also just finished with a series of in-depth reports regarding the non-lethal weapons industry. And how companies like Taser will actually have their contracted physicians chase ambulances to remind coroners how to 'properly' make sure that their hardware wasn't the cause of death).
But yeah... this shit is crazy.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodies-brokers/
Each year, thousands of Americans donate their bodies in the belief they are contributing to science. In fact, many are also unwittingly contributing to commerce, their bodies traded as raw material in a largely unregulated national market.
So.... as many know, I am often "triggered" by anything and everything Human Trafficking related. This though, is new to me - because even though I've heard of organ harvesting and all sorts of ridiculousness regarding the donors and malpractice, I didn't even know this sort of thing existed. And especially not at the levels discussed.
“The current state of affairs is a free-for-all,” said Angela McArthur, who directs the body donation program at the University of Minnesota Medical School and formerly chaired her state’s anatomical donation commission. “We are seeing similar problems to what we saw with grave-robbers centuries ago,” she said, referring to the 19th-century practice of obtaining cadavers in ways that violated the dignity of the dead.I mean... that can't be that bad. Right? Its just a dead body. How much money could you even make off of
“I don’t know if I can state this strongly enough,” McArthur said. “What they are doing is profiting from the sale of humans.”
In most states, anyone can legally purchase body parts. A Tennessee broker sold Reuters a cervical spine and two human heads after just a few email exchanges.
Through interviews and public records, Reuters identified Southern Nevada and 33 other body brokers active across America during the past five years. Twenty-five of the 34 body brokers were for-profit corporations; the rest were nonprofits. In three years alone, one for-profit broker earned at least $12.5 million stemming from the body part business.
Because only four states closely track donations and sales, the breadth of the market for body parts remains unknown. But data obtained under public record laws from those states – New York, Virginia, Oklahoma and Florida – provide a snapshot. Reuters calculated that from 2011 through 2015, private brokers received at least 50,000 bodies and distributed more than 182,000 body parts.
Permits from Florida and Virginia offer a glimpse of how some of those parts were used: A 2013 shipment to a Florida orthopedic training seminar included 27 shoulders. A 2015 shipment to a session on carpal tunnel syndrome in Virginia included five arms.
As with other commodities, prices for bodies and body parts fluctuate with market conditions. Generally, a broker can sell a donated human body for about $3,000 to $5,000, though prices sometimes top $10,000. But a broker will typically divide a cadaver into six parts to meet customer needs. Internal documents from seven brokers show a range of prices for body parts: $3,575 for a torso with legs; $500 for a head; $350 for a foot; $300 for a spine.
Body brokers also have become intertwined with the American funeral industry. Reuters identified 62 funeral operators that have struck mutually beneficial business arrangements with brokers. The funeral homes provide brokers access to potential donors. In return, the brokers pay morticians referral fees, ranging from $300 to $1,430, according to broker ledgers and court records.
These payments generate income for morticians from families who might not be able to otherwise afford even simple cremation. But such relationships raise potential conflicts of interest by creating an incentive for funeral homes to encourage grieving relatives to consider body donation, sometimes without fully understanding what might happen to the remains.
“Some funeral home directors are saying, ‘Cremation isn’t paying the bills anymore, so let me see if I can help people harvest body parts,’” said Steve Palmer, an Arizona mortician who serves on the National Funeral Directors Association’s policy board. “I just think families who donate loved ones would have second thoughts if they knew that.”
Some morticians have made body donation part of their own businesses. In Oklahoma, two funeral home owners invested $650,000 in a startup body broker firm. In Colorado, a family operating a funeral home ran a company that dissected and distributed body parts from the same building.
When a body is donated, few states provide rules governing dismemberment or use, or offer any rights to a donor's next of kin. Bodies and parts can be bought, sold and leased, again and again. As a result, it can be difficult to track what becomes of the bodies of donors, let alone ensure that they are handled with dignity.
Way more at the link, and a very well done article - the first part of an ongoing series (Reuters also just finished with a series of in-depth reports regarding the non-lethal weapons industry. And how companies like Taser will actually have their contracted physicians chase ambulances to remind coroners how to 'properly' make sure that their hardware wasn't the cause of death).
But yeah... this shit is crazy.
I expected even more of a bait and switch from the funeral homes tbh. Such as giving families b.s. ashes and selling the parts off, then faking the paperwork since most families aren't going to suspect anything and demand a thorough investigation. Unless that's also in there and not in the quoted text.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostI expected even more of a bait and switch from the funeral homes tbh. Such as giving families b.s. ashes and selling the parts off, then faking the paperwork since most families aren't going to suspect anything and demand a thorough investigation. Unless that's also in there and not in the quoted text.There's a bit on that as well.
There's a segment early on that describes how lower income families in particular are exploited in this. By saying you'll cremate a body, they're already inclined to be grateful because of the price for funeral/burial costs in general - there's no way for many to actively pursue (or even suspect) shady business at work here.
Ethically though.... this business is outrageous. I mean, the ways you can 'cut corners' and not break a law are wild - and this all US based stuff too.
Can't bury or spread human ashes in various places (because technically human remains) but nothing about half this crap. Priorities lol.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostCan't bury or spread human ashes in various places (because technically human remains) but nothing about half this crap. Priorities lol."In another case, Detroit body broker Arthur Rathburn is scheduled to stand trial in January for fraud, accused of supplying unsuspecting doctors with body parts infected with hepatitis and HIV for use in training seminars. U.S. officials cited the case as an example of their commitment to protect the public. But Reuters found that, despite warning signs, state and federal officials failed to rein in Rathburn for more than a decade, allowing him to continue to acquire hundreds of body parts and rent them out for profit. He has pleaded not guilty."
more than a decade brehs
Wow what a read. Thanks for sharing. Fucked up that some bodies were used by the Army in blast experiments against the paperwork the family did stating they didn't want them to be used in military experiments.
By Supha_Volt Go To PostWow what a read. Thanks for sharing. Fucked up that some bodies were used by the Army in blast experiments against the paperwork the family did stating they didn't want them to be used in military experiments.Here's the link to that story in particular: http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodybrokers-industry/
BRC cremated her hand. Sent that to her son, then gave the rest of her body to the army for testing the damage of IEDs.
They wanted to donate her brain for Alzheimer's research. And they're lucky just to know what happened.
By DY_nasty Go To PostHere's the link to that story in particular: http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodybrokers-industry/
BRC cremated her hand. Sent that to her son, then gave the rest of her body to the army for testing the damage of IEDs.
They wanted to donate her brain for Alzheimer's research. And they're lucky just to know what happened.
Wow BCR are scumbags and then some... From lying about how the body is used to changing paperwork to give the army indicating that the family gave consent to BCR that they could give their bodies.
Something really fucks me up about the phrase "rent them out for profit" when it comes to human remains.
I'm actually kind of relieved you guys are as disturbed about this as I am. I don't think I ever had to consider this stuff before but now I'm like shit....
You can't even trust people to put your family in the dirt right.
You can't even trust people to put your family in the dirt right.
By DY_nasty Go To PostHere's the link to that story in particular: http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodybrokers-industry/This is so fucked. How do these people live with themselves man.
BRC cremated her hand. Sent that to her son, then gave the rest of her body to the army for testing the damage of IEDs.
They wanted to donate her brain for Alzheimer's research. And they're lucky just to know what happened.
By DY_nasty Go To PostI'm actually kind of relieved you guys are as disturbed about this as I am. I don't think I ever had to consider this stuff before but now I'm like shit….You can't even die in certain states without everyone taking their cut. Can't end your life sooner. Gotta suffer from your terminal shit. How much you wanna suffer? What do you want to make your family pay?
You can't even trust people to put your family in the dirt right.
By DY_nasty Go To PostHere's the link to that story in particular: http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-bodybrokers-industry/Exactly what I was talking about upthread. Not even surprised.
BRC cremated her hand. Sent that to her son, then gave the rest of her body to the army for testing the damage of IEDs.
They wanted to donate her brain for Alzheimer's research. And they're lucky just to know what happened.
I've always considered donating my body to science but now I'm a bit more hesitant. I mean I understand why it's dismembered and sent off to used for other things but I wish it would be used for other medical research other than for the army testing IED's....
Granted, that may have (lol no it didn't) contribute to saving lives in its own way - people should at the very least have a true, regulated, guarantee that the donation of their body go to the cause they selected.
By Supha_Volt Go To PostI've always considered donating my body to science but now I'm a bit more hesitant. I mean I understand why it's dismembered and sent off to used for other things but I wish it would be used for other medical research other than for the army testing IED's….
Yeah if I'm donating I'm not doing it for someone's profit. The lack of guarantee is the issue. The creepy business practices surrounding the sale of body parts is just the icing
By tino Go To PostI am going to saying that sound tasteless, do you not save funeral cost when you donate your body?You do often times.
By DY_nasty Go To PostYou do often times.
If you save the funeral cost and save a piece of land from the grave site, it's a win-win situation.
I am not a Buddhist, but Buddhism doesn't care about the body after you are dead.
By tino Go To PostIf you save the funeral cost and save a piece of land from the grave site, it's a win-win situation.That win-win situation as you describe would also be defined as a war crime under most modern circumstances.
I am not a Buddhist, but Buddhism doesn't care about the body after you are dead.
By tino Go To PostNah just legalize it.nah lol
if you don't personally care what happens to your body that's not weird or anything. but mindy from the dmv wants to know her body will help train surgeons not feed high end cannibals or assist in weapons development
you say "legalize it" but its in a legal no man's land. there's nothing in this but ethical hope and general belief that human rights are being protected