All PS4 Pro enhanced games (native support and boosted)
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From Liabe Brave, this thread will be served as an archive until Liabe can take over this thread, either on here or on ResetEra so all the text and pictures will lifted from that thread to this thread, this will be in two different posts
I thought it might be beneficial to create fast, easy-to-use lists comparing all PS4 Pro and standard PS4 modes at a glance. The post after this one covers games which have been programmed specifically to take advantage of the new hardware, whether released after PS4 Pro with support built in, or released earlier and patched down the line. The third post covers VR games with enhancements (some titles appear again here). The fourth post lists unpatched games which are enhanced by the Boost Mode available from Pro's console settings.
The data here is either compiled from other sources, or based on my own analysis of screenshots and video. Though this thread is intended to be thorough, it's also succinct. For more details regarding specific titles, these external resources may be helpful:
PlayStation Blog Announcements https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2016/11/03/heres-the-list-of-games-that-will-be-optimised-for-ps4-pro-on-launch-day
Digital Foundry's analysis tracker http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-playstation-4-pro-game-upgrade-guide
NXGamer's analysis tracker http://nxgamer.com/Technical-Analysis/ps4pro-central-gamespatch-update-hub
Eurogmer PS4 Pro Summary http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-10-ps4-pro-games-list-specs-comparison
Gamespot List of Announcements http://www.gamespot.com/articles/every-ps4-pro-game-that-is-and-isnt-getting-an-upg/1100-6443385/
IGN List http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PS4_Pro_Game_Upgrades_and_Differences
List of VR games by Fgoat on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/5cqw2h/psvr_ps4_pro_enhancements/
Digital Foundry selects best upgrades of certain types https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-USLdspwawY
• Most games with high-res modes automatically downsample when played on a 1080p display. Pro modes that do not downsample, and are only usable on a 4K display, are marked by a red X. For those games, the modes marked with an orange dot are obligatory on 1080p displays. Players with 4K screens can force them with OS-level settings, but not from in the game.
• Effects, resolution, and framerate in Pro modes are color coded versus standard PS4. White indicates essentially no change. Red is worse, yellow is arguably better or worse depending on personal preference, and green is definitely better. Sometimes the exact same text might be listed, but the block colored in anyway. This means both modes have the same target, but Pro meets the target more often (green) or less often (red).
• Games using CBR have their resolutions listed as e.g. 1800c or 2160c. Standard rendering is listed as e.g. 1800p or 2160p. (Note that CBR is not upscaling. Upscaling to 4K is still necessary if the checkerboard is below 2160c.) There are also other methods, which use appropriate abbreviations; if you're unclear on any just post a question in the thread and I'll attempt to answer.
• Games that support HDR are tagged to the right of their title bar in the list. Both PS4 models can output HDR. However, only a very few 1080p displays—like Sony's 2017 TV models—can show the effect. A 4K display is therefore usually needed to see HDR, even if the attached console is a standard PS4. A short list of all titles with HDR support can be found in the Statistics section below, in Table 1. Only one game, Sniper Ghost Warrior 3, is known to have HDR but no official Pro support.
• Games are listed in alphabetical order by title. I use official names, so it may take a moment to find them (Tom Clancy's The Division versus The Division, Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor versus Shadow of Mordor, etc.) For this reason, as well as the ever-expanding nature of this list, you may wish to automatedly search. The graphic format means a specific method has to be used.
• Boost Mode opens a portion of the Pro's extra power to all games. Thus, games without official support may still see upgrades. (Boost Mode does not affect games with official Pro support.) Please keep in mind that, unlike the others, my Boost Mode list does not attempt to be exhaustive. There are surely hundreds of other games improved by Boost Mode that aren't shown here. Improvements are also too numerous for me to research as thoroughly as I do official enhancements. So the details in the Boost Mode list are more tentative and subject to error (which is why I've given it a different color scheme.)
• The games that Boost Mode affects were not explicitly designed to run on the new hardware. Therefore, upgrades are more minor than with official support. Since resolution and framerate can't rise above their original limits from standard PS4 hardware, some well-performing games may simply not be visibly affected at all. In rare cases, problems with framerate, graphics, game logic, or program stability could be introduced. Games with no benefits are listed in the Statistics section below, in Table 5. Games with reports of errors are listed in Table 6. As with all Boost Mode info, details may be inaccurate, and more impressions and screenshots would be appreciated!
• Yes, loading times are improved over standard PS4 hardware. A better drive interface means all games see shorter load times, even if they don't have official support, and even if Boost Mode is turned off. Boosted games, or ones with official support, can have further load time reductions on top of the universal improvement. Because games and hard drives vary, so does the size of the benefits. Along with lack of extensive testing, this is why shortened loading times aren't explicitly stated below. But they are present in almost every game.
• The majority of games have better framerates on Pro versus standard PS4, but few raise the target framerate by 30fps. The overall graphical power difference, as well as the presence of bottlenecks not addressed by the new hardware, make such a change in performance rare. However, there are some games that do this, either across the board or in specific modes (including VR). A short list of these titles can be found in the Statistics section below, in Table 2.
• Games are only included in the main lists if I can find proof of specific improvements. That includes analysis by me, or by others across the web. Developers often announce Pro support without any details, and it's possible for enhancement plans to change or be delayed. Or, some games may actually be improved but evidence isn't easy to obtain. In the Statistics section below, Table 3 lists titles that have been claimed, but not fully analyzed due to lack of material. If you post links or screenshots I'll try to check them. Table 4 lists titles that have been claimed and analyzed, but for which I found no improvements. Since I could be mistaken, please feel free to post contrary impressions and analysis, including your own.
• Some entries on this list are incomplete, and the whole thing is necessarily a work in progress. (The VR section is especially spotty. Since the social screen output isn't necessarily related to the headset view, they often can't be easily analyzed.) If you can supply material on unlisted games yourself, or know where they're up elsewhere, please post the links! When posting in this thread, screenshots should be at 4K size to allow pixel counting (even if the game is running at 1080p). Thanks!
Number of listed games with enhancements: 197
Number of listed games with VR enhancements: 59
Total number of games with official support: 239 (some are both regular and VR)
Number of listed games with Boost Mode benefits: 191
Total number of listed games: 430
From Liabe Brave, this thread will be served as an archive until Liabe can take over this thread, either on here or on ResetEra so all the text and pictures will lifted from that thread to this thread, this will be in two different posts
I thought it might be beneficial to create fast, easy-to-use lists comparing all PS4 Pro and standard PS4 modes at a glance. The post after this one covers games which have been programmed specifically to take advantage of the new hardware, whether released after PS4 Pro with support built in, or released earlier and patched down the line. The third post covers VR games with enhancements (some titles appear again here). The fourth post lists unpatched games which are enhanced by the Boost Mode available from Pro's console settings.
The data here is either compiled from other sources, or based on my own analysis of screenshots and video. Though this thread is intended to be thorough, it's also succinct. For more details regarding specific titles, these external resources may be helpful:
PlayStation Blog Announcements https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2016/11/03/heres-the-list-of-games-that-will-be-optimised-for-ps4-pro-on-launch-day
Digital Foundry's analysis tracker http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-playstation-4-pro-game-upgrade-guide
NXGamer's analysis tracker http://nxgamer.com/Technical-Analysis/ps4pro-central-gamespatch-update-hub
Eurogmer PS4 Pro Summary http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-11-10-ps4-pro-games-list-specs-comparison
Gamespot List of Announcements http://www.gamespot.com/articles/every-ps4-pro-game-that-is-and-isnt-getting-an-upg/1100-6443385/
IGN List http://www.ign.com/wikis/playstation-4/PS4_Pro_Game_Upgrades_and_Differences
List of VR games by Fgoat on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/5cqw2h/psvr_ps4_pro_enhancements/
Digital Foundry selects best upgrades of certain types https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-USLdspwawY
• Most games with high-res modes automatically downsample when played on a 1080p display. Pro modes that do not downsample, and are only usable on a 4K display, are marked by a red X. For those games, the modes marked with an orange dot are obligatory on 1080p displays. Players with 4K screens can force them with OS-level settings, but not from in the game.
• Effects, resolution, and framerate in Pro modes are color coded versus standard PS4. White indicates essentially no change. Red is worse, yellow is arguably better or worse depending on personal preference, and green is definitely better. Sometimes the exact same text might be listed, but the block colored in anyway. This means both modes have the same target, but Pro meets the target more often (green) or less often (red).
• Games using CBR have their resolutions listed as e.g. 1800c or 2160c. Standard rendering is listed as e.g. 1800p or 2160p. (Note that CBR is not upscaling. Upscaling to 4K is still necessary if the checkerboard is below 2160c.) There are also other methods, which use appropriate abbreviations; if you're unclear on any just post a question in the thread and I'll attempt to answer.
• Games that support HDR are tagged to the right of their title bar in the list. Both PS4 models can output HDR. However, only a very few 1080p displays—like Sony's 2017 TV models—can show the effect. A 4K display is therefore usually needed to see HDR, even if the attached console is a standard PS4. A short list of all titles with HDR support can be found in the Statistics section below, in Table 1. Only one game, Sniper Ghost Warrior 3, is known to have HDR but no official Pro support.
• Games are listed in alphabetical order by title. I use official names, so it may take a moment to find them (Tom Clancy's The Division versus The Division, Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor versus Shadow of Mordor, etc.) For this reason, as well as the ever-expanding nature of this list, you may wish to automatedly search. The graphic format means a specific method has to be used.
• Boost Mode opens a portion of the Pro's extra power to all games. Thus, games without official support may still see upgrades. (Boost Mode does not affect games with official Pro support.) Please keep in mind that, unlike the others, my Boost Mode list does not attempt to be exhaustive. There are surely hundreds of other games improved by Boost Mode that aren't shown here. Improvements are also too numerous for me to research as thoroughly as I do official enhancements. So the details in the Boost Mode list are more tentative and subject to error (which is why I've given it a different color scheme.)
• The games that Boost Mode affects were not explicitly designed to run on the new hardware. Therefore, upgrades are more minor than with official support. Since resolution and framerate can't rise above their original limits from standard PS4 hardware, some well-performing games may simply not be visibly affected at all. In rare cases, problems with framerate, graphics, game logic, or program stability could be introduced. Games with no benefits are listed in the Statistics section below, in Table 5. Games with reports of errors are listed in Table 6. As with all Boost Mode info, details may be inaccurate, and more impressions and screenshots would be appreciated!
• Yes, loading times are improved over standard PS4 hardware. A better drive interface means all games see shorter load times, even if they don't have official support, and even if Boost Mode is turned off. Boosted games, or ones with official support, can have further load time reductions on top of the universal improvement. Because games and hard drives vary, so does the size of the benefits. Along with lack of extensive testing, this is why shortened loading times aren't explicitly stated below. But they are present in almost every game.
• The majority of games have better framerates on Pro versus standard PS4, but few raise the target framerate by 30fps. The overall graphical power difference, as well as the presence of bottlenecks not addressed by the new hardware, make such a change in performance rare. However, there are some games that do this, either across the board or in specific modes (including VR). A short list of these titles can be found in the Statistics section below, in Table 2.
• Games are only included in the main lists if I can find proof of specific improvements. That includes analysis by me, or by others across the web. Developers often announce Pro support without any details, and it's possible for enhancement plans to change or be delayed. Or, some games may actually be improved but evidence isn't easy to obtain. In the Statistics section below, Table 3 lists titles that have been claimed, but not fully analyzed due to lack of material. If you post links or screenshots I'll try to check them. Table 4 lists titles that have been claimed and analyzed, but for which I found no improvements. Since I could be mistaken, please feel free to post contrary impressions and analysis, including your own.
• Some entries on this list are incomplete, and the whole thing is necessarily a work in progress. (The VR section is especially spotty. Since the social screen output isn't necessarily related to the headset view, they often can't be easily analyzed.) If you can supply material on unlisted games yourself, or know where they're up elsewhere, please post the links! When posting in this thread, screenshots should be at 4K size to allow pixel counting (even if the game is running at 1080p). Thanks!
Number of listed games with enhancements: 197
Number of listed games with VR enhancements: 59
Total number of games with official support: 239 (some are both regular and VR)
Number of listed games with Boost Mode benefits: 191
Total number of listed games: 430
By Patitoloco Go To PostYou're a heroindeed
By reilo Go To PostThis is dope. Smokey, get in here.
Present. This is NICE. This was one of the most useful threads on gaf, glad it was saved and brought over.
I hope Tango/Bethesda is hurrying up with their patch.
Already annoying enough that this wasn't ready for launch, after they already screwed up patch for Dishonored 2 at first.
Already annoying enough that this wasn't ready for launch, after they already screwed up patch for Dishonored 2 at first.
By Pastry Go To PostYaaaaasssss I just noticed that this survived. Do we know Wolfenstein will be like on Pro?
Was JUST coming to ask this. Bethesda has been real suspect with Pro support. I don't think we've heard anything about HDR nor potential Pro support yet?
By Smokey Go To PostWas JUST coming to ask this. Bethesda has been real suspect with Pro support. I don't think we've heard anything about HDR nor potential Pro support yet?Nothing specific yet.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/wolfenstein-2-director-talks-strangely-topical-sto/1100-6453930/
Thank you for bringing this over :D Hoping Wolfenstein 2 isn't another game Bethesda are late on with Pro support...
I was just thinking about the GAF version of this thread this morning, wondering what would happen to the data and how all of that hard work may have been lost to the ether. Thanks a ton, ArmVanDam! Do we know if Liabe Brave is coming back for sure?
Looks like Wolfenstein II will have PS4 Pro support (1440p)
https://bethesda.net/en/article/6CO5i9jTEW8yO2OukYIUMM/wolfenstein-ii-the-new-colossus-launch-details
PlayStation 4 Pro
Resolution: 1440p Performance: 60 FPS (with Day One Patch)
Xbox One X
Support will be coming in a future patch to coincide with the release of the console.
https://bethesda.net/en/article/6CO5i9jTEW8yO2OukYIUMM/wolfenstein-ii-the-new-colossus-launch-details
By Smokey Go To PostNo mention of HDR either.Maybe it's coming later.
Bethesda :x
By Pennywise Go To PostMaybe it's coming later.
Bethesda :x
xbox one x is getting it tho
It now appears that Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus will be getting some notable upgrades for Xbox One X, as detailed on the game's dedicated page on the official Xbox site. For the first time, we now know the game will leverage the additional resources of Microsoft's upcoming flagship console, with support for both 4K resolution and High Dynamic Range (HDR).
Bethesda has been real funny when it comes to Pro support.
By Smokey Go To Postxbox one x is getting it thoDoubt they're gonna just leave one platform with HDR support.
Bethesda has been real funny when it comes to Pro support.
Assume every platform is gonna get it and it's just not listed, since the HDR part on X1 is from an article.
But yeah, it's embarassing. It wasn't a problem when it happened with one game, but they fucked up the launch for D2,Prey and Evil Within 2.
The information on NeoGAF has been changed to a legacy mode, as I will no longer be updating it there. I would like to continue adding to the list in a public space, but I'm still deciding where and how to proceed with that.
By Liabe Brave Go To PostThe information on NeoGAF has been changed to a legacy mode, as I will no longer be updating it there. I would like to continue adding to the list in a public space, but I'm still deciding where and how to proceed with that.
Good to see you, LB!
Also, the site design here is as modern as you're going to get for an internet forum. Might as well continue here! Of course, you can do it at multiple places as well.
The image host just gave us a hard “nope.”
By Liabe Brave Go To PostThe information on NeoGAF has been changed to a legacy mode, as I will no longer be updating it there. I would like to continue adding to the list in a public space, but I'm still deciding where and how to proceed with that.Thanks for working on keeping your project alive!
Image host has been updated
By Liabe Brave Go To PostThe information on NeoGAF has been changed to a legacy mode, as I will no longer be updating it there. I would like to continue adding to the list in a public space, but I'm still deciding where and how to proceed with that.I would be fine if you update it anywhere else if it's on here or on ResetEra, either way I'm completely fine with it, thank you for keeping this alive!
Just like to add, Torment: Tides of Numenera has been patched months ago and now runs at 30fps.
Soma has also been patched to address the boost mode crashes, it now runs at a more stable framerate although there are still some minor stuttering especially when loading new areas.
Soma has also been patched to address the boost mode crashes, it now runs at a more stable framerate although there are still some minor stuttering especially when loading new areas.
By brainchild Go To PostGood to see you, LB!I will almost certainly only maintain a single active list. Version control is a real hassle even with that; I don't want to contemplate syncing multiple sources.
Also, the site design here is as modern as you're going to get for an internet forum. Might as well continue here! Of course, you can do it at multiple places as well.
By ArmVanDam Go To PostImage host has been updatedI appreciate the kind words. Just a note, the first post in the old GAF thread has also been changed as well. It's much more compact but still gets all the most important stuff in. More importantly, while it has slightly less info it adds a fully searchable list of games. This is important to make the legacy version more functional.
I would be fine if you update it anywhere else if it's on here or on ResetEra, either way I'm completely fine with it, thank you for keeping this alive!
By Jr_Painkiller Go To PostJust like to add, Torment: Tides of Numenera has been patched months ago and now runs at 30fps.Great, thanks for the info! Just a couple questions: so Torment doesn't have a user toggle, it just always caps at 30fps? That'd be disappointing, since there's very little else that distinguishes the Pro version.
Soma has also been patched to address the boost mode crashes, it now runs at a more stable framerate although there are still some minor stuttering especially when loading new areas.
Second, SOMA actually isn't in the lists at all. From the videos I saw, I couldn't find any framerate improvements with Boost Mode. Are you saying that it's now more stable, do you mean on Pro?
Torment is locked at 30fps on the pro, no option for uncapped mode.
One of the notable stress points in Soma is the site upsilon flooding. From my experience there's no noticeable drops anymore from that event with the boost mode on.
Here's the scene on a regular ps4.
One of the notable stress points in Soma is the site upsilon flooding. From my experience there's no noticeable drops anymore from that event with the boost mode on.
Here's the scene on a regular ps4.
Liabe i hope you continue to update the list, whether here or somehwere, it's been a real help as a fairly recent Pro owner.
The new version of the list is now available at ResetEra.