By Diprosalic Go To Postso how did the downfall start? what triggered it? a thread about the allegation getting deleted? how did everyone know it's going to end?
Was staying at a hotel with a female friend of his. The girl was feeling sick from drinking and got in the shower. He then decided to get in there aswell.
She revealed it on FB.
Mods start quitting in droves. Threads closed. etc
crud's now banned btw
like... if you got shit to get off your chest, don't go about it like that. this place has been around for a while and we're typically very understanding of a lot of frustrations, but that's not gonna be the norm.
like... if you got shit to get off your chest, don't go about it like that. this place has been around for a while and we're typically very understanding of a lot of frustrations, but that's not gonna be the norm.
By Diprosalic Go To Postokay so the mods quit and people started to freak? crazy.
When modbot stopped locking threads you could tell it was the end. There was just a floodgate of shitposts and threads when people realized that the mods left the building. It was almost amusing except for the fact that it was like watching your house burn down lol
By Deadbeat Go To PostStrong at screaming and swinging fists wildly at everyone, poor at intelligent discussion.
Where is the statement? I want to read it.
not posted yet (and I'm not getting my hopes up), I'm just going by what Karpalajoe posted earlier.
By Ahasverus Go To PostIt's been a wild ride.
thanks for the breakdown.
Brand new account here. I’m a long time member of GAF. My account number is 1xxx. Not sure how I feel about this. I like GAF but there’s no doubt it has gone downhill over the years. OT is a giant pool of political threads and serious stuff and half the damn threads were about Trump. No fun allowed anymore and all the stuff that made OT great in the past are gone. Also I do agree that the forum has become quite an echo chamber.
But then again, I really doubt we’ve seen the last of it. It has far too many users to die just like that. The forums will go back up with a new team of mods and admins and EL will probably work his ass off in the next few months to do most of the modding, I’d imagine.
But then again, I really doubt we’ve seen the last of it. It has far too many users to die just like that. The forums will go back up with a new team of mods and admins and EL will probably work his ass off in the next few months to do most of the modding, I’d imagine.
By Irminsul Go To PostI thought the same reading through this thread. And that wasn't a positive thought.Might as well particpate within other topics.
This one is gonna attract alot of anger, frustration and discussions about GAF. Which isn't that suprising considering alot of people spend a big chunk of their life on that platform.
By Enter The Noid Go To PostThey were socially pretty liberal in OT, I didn't catch much of an anti-capitalist sentiment though.Socially liberal until it came to black people or women, but yeah, I see what you mean.
To be honest, I thought large swaths of GAF was consumerist hell. The amount of people enthusiastic about an impending Amazon monopoly was fucked up man.
By sunshine and gasoline Go To PostLove triangle…Evilore pls. I can see this actually being the case. Makes sense given the departures of the staff.
Lol yeah, the admin I know, said to me that the Evilore explanations were a convulted mess, he was panicked because - supposedly again, I was not there - the girl had some witness who can testify her story AND - that's my guess this time - she's probably not the only one who will come forward to speak.
Evilore was ice cold during his explanations, the mods felt that the guy was lying. Plus, a member contacted a mod to relate the Barelona ass grapping incident, because he was there, the whole story is more messed up than what Evilore said about it. That added up.
By Pennywise Go To PostMight as well particpate within other topics.
This one is gonna attract alot of anger, frustration and discussions about GAF. Which isn't that suprising considering alot of people spend a big chunk of their life on that platform.
Seconded.
By John Rabbit Go To PostBeing a member of NeoGAF for a decade has made me a generally more educated, open-minded, and socially progressive and active person. It's a real loss that I'm going to feel in the near future. There were some truly amazing members and threads that contained loads of useful, relevant, and interesting information about a wide variety of topics. The loss of the community around that cannot be understated.yeah shit sucks.
That mouth-breathing chuds like Boogie and gamergators feel that this is some kind of "vindication" is just further proof of the destructive and hateful toxicity that NeoGAF "supposedly" stood against. Goddamnit this is so infuriating.
By John Rabbit Go To PostBeing a member of NeoGAF for a decade has made me a generally more educated, open-minded, and socially progressive and active person. It's a real loss that I'm going to feel in the near future. There were some truly amazing members and threads that contained loads of useful, relevant, and interesting information about a wide variety of topics. The loss of the community around that cannot be understated.it's fine. If you have anyone on twitter subscribing to Gamergaters unfollow them.
That mouth-breathing chuds like Boogie and gamergators feel that this is some kind of "vindication" is just further proof of the destructive and hateful toxicity that NeoGAF "supposedly" stood against. Goddamnit this is so infuriating.
At this point ignore cunts who celebrate for the wrong reasons. It will help much more if we ourselves help cultivate a community composing of the best of GAF than confronting them.
Here, or somewhere else on the internet.
By Enter The Noid Go To PostThey were socially pretty liberal in OT, I didn't catch much of an anti-capitalist sentiment though.
To be honest, I thought large swaths of GAF was consumerist hell. The amount of people enthusiastic about an impending Amazon monopoly was fucked up man.
So many people who seemed like they built their lives around buying shit and preordering shit and posting about how they couldn't wait for some shit to become available so they could buy it
Also so much of the pop culture discussion was just completely uncritical consumption of obvious marketing bullshit. That was my first ban actually, talking about how it was kind of sad to start a thread about a post Chris Pratt made on Instagram to plug a movie
The less we are like neogaf the better tbh. We need to be like the communities, not the board. This place should feel like a bar where you meet your mates but its online.
By Pastry Go To PostWhen modbot stopped locking threads you could tell it was the end. There was just a floodgate of shitposts and threads when people realized that the mods left the building. It was almost amusing except for the fact that it was like watching your house burn down lolCan't remember who said it in here, but the best analogy I saw was sitting in a new bar drinking whilst watching your favourite bar burn down.
By SiddX Go To PostI'm not happy that gaf is probably dead, but it's been a long time coming. After (rightfully) driving most of the bigoted pricks off the site, people got addicted to that feeling of calling people out and having the moral high ground. So much so they started turning on each other when they ran out of legitimate fuckboys to condemn and made a lot of discussion threads ugly as hell. Evilore not just owning up to his shit also doesn't surprise me but is stupid as hell. I'm not mad he did something shitty cause I damn sure have in my past as well, I'm mad at his response after, the way he treated that girl and didn't seem to learn anything from it. But what ever, I've meant to move here years ago, I just couldn't quit the convenience of familiarity.
Oh hell yeah.
I'm a fairly liberal guy but certain threads just quickly devolved into people trying to 'catch out' others. At times like that, I'd even try and play devils advocate.
I know a few mods did try and cut that crap out though.
But yeah if it's down forever then it's a big loss. There were some really great people there.
Even down to stuff like 'new news new thread' resulted in me getting a lot of daily news just through discussions posted.
But.... Cloud silver lining - make the most of this!
And to reiterate what DY said, it was definitely not appropriate to post in the manner that CRUD did, so that will not be tolerated here.
By VitalNonsense Go To PostIt doesn't look like anyone is really taking that place seriously, though. More interestingly, a user there is telling everyone to be patient because a true successor to GAF is in the works that will be contacting gaf members soon to provide invites with restricted registration. I'm over there mainly just to stay in the loop on that. I think in the longrun, forms of restricted registration are necessary to create the kind of discussion gaf had at its best.
I'd be happy sticking with slaent as long as we get some quality of life improvements, though. This is the best alternative so far. From what I've seen, I really like the stances the management here takes. They really try to avoid putting people into tiers, letting everyone edit their own tags, not using mod colors on usernames, and no junior labels.
But I dont like light themes, my eyes are starting to hurt reading all this red on red with the dark theme, and I can't subscribe to any threads which is driving me crazy. Plus I'm worried that with completely open registration, mods won't be able to keep a handle on trolls in the longrun as population grows.
Yeah, this place needs some TLC for sure. But it's all stuff I can handle as long as the toxic shit doesnt start leaking into here.
By Karpalajoe Go To PostLol yeah, the admin I know, said to me that the Evilore explanations were a convulted mess, he was panicked because - supposedly again, I was not there - the girl had some witness who can testify her story AND - that's my guess this time - she's probably not the only one who will come forward to speak.
Evilore was ice cold during his explanations, the mods felt that the guy was lying. Plus, a member contacted a mod to relate the Barelona ass grapping incident, because he was there, the whole story is more messed up than what Evilore said about it. That added up.
he was always a snide motherfucker. too bad the community that was infinitely better than him is suffering and most of all too bad for his victims having to endure that assault and behavior and see him continue on as a "successful" person.
By Deadbeat Go To PostStrong at screaming and swinging fists wildly at everyone, poor at intelligent discussion.
Where is the statement? I want to read it.
Okay yeah actually I agree with that, and to be honest I kind of feel like GAF was that way about most topics dare I say?
I feel like most users were honestly pretty comfortable/middle class, socially isolated/shut in dudes who weren't really affected by any of those issues, and they mostly went along with them because it took root in the board's culture, which hey that's fine.
But I feel like many users didn't know why they argued the things that they did and therefore couldn't discuss a lot of those things with any nuance. Many GAFers only exposure to "politics" was only because of GAF and because of that they didn't have any truly strong convictions.
I can imagine how a dude that hops in the shower naked with some girl throwing up wouldn't just randomly grab someone's ass in Barcelona and that be the end of the story
By Diprosalic Go To Postyeah i was. sup?
did you post there? and yeah sucks big time but he showed nadal whose king in Shanghai :)
I posted some, but lurked mostly after my ban.
By Pastry Go To PostWhen modbot stopped locking threads you could tell it was the end. There was just a floodgate of shitposts and threads when people realized that the mods left the building. It was almost amusing except for the fact that it was like watching your house burn down lol
It was more like watching the house of neighbor that professes to be pro-feminist and accepting of all but hits on your wife behind your back burn down.
By moop2000 Go To PostWatching it devolve was pretty amazing (archived link): http://assets.neogafllc.netdna-cdn.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3Hahaha. Holy shit. Some of this is heartbreaking.
By spooks Go To PostHey guys, anyone know why GAF is down?lolthey made blame space an admin and to no one's surprise everyone regreted it immediately
By Jellycrackers Go To PostI skimmed through this thread but it's moving so fast! I made an account here back when HaloGAF was exiled. Seems like a cool alternative. Likin the vibe! Thanks for the warm welcomes.
The most important question though… is the $30 Italian Meal meme gonna make it over here!?!?
Yeah, it's moving as fast as a thread...on GAF, lol!
By ViewtifulJC Go To PostEvilore let the mods proof read his "statement"
then all the mods left
what that tell you
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostWhat a cunt.
Maybe I thought this but didn't say it already, but dude is a grown assed man still acting like a teenager.
By Ahasverus Go To PostIt was a slow snowball. The first strike happened when the Wenstein scandal blew up, then there started to appear more and more sexual assaults threads, and Evilore participated in one, saying it was better to "wait for evidence" and started banning people left and right for calling him out (Really good people, Box office GAF died that day).
But the big strike happened, well, yesterday, when that girl spoke out about Evilore' rape attempt. People started to ask questions especially in the milkshake duck thread. More bans happened, more locked threads.
Everything however, snowballed out of control once the first mods started to resign. After years of going against inappropriate behavior Mods weren't pleased with Evilore's actions and they stepped down all in a few hours.
The less mods, the more account suicides and shit posts started to appear. In a matter of minutes, Neogaf became worse than then darkest 4chan, well, Chan.
It all happened in a bang, it was incredible to see. I honestly take this as a lesson of how frail order is. Imagine if this happened on a global scale, now I believe 100% on post apocalyptic scenarios, once order loses power, it all goes to shit.
It's been a wild ride.
Na, on a global scale, there would be a coup or a revolution.
Tyler was basically a Greek god, and NeoGaf was his "creation." But then everyone wisened up to the myth.
By Goose Se7en Go To PostI posted some, but lurked mostly after my ban.
cool, cool. Tennis-Slaent so far is basically me with an occasional Omzz post.
I grew up alot thanks to GAF, but i also realized alot of their hypocrisy aswell (which also helped me grow).
For example, despite there being tons of talk about not body shaming women, and men abit, about things like being fat, whenever someone was too thin or muscular, the tune changed.
There was a contreversial ad in London from a company called Protein World, where they used a "thin" woman as the model. And the CEO was ripped as hell.
The threads were filled with people calling them anorexic, cunt, grotesque, gross, and making all sorts of judgment about their bodies. And ofcourse, no bans.
For example, despite there being tons of talk about not body shaming women, and men abit, about things like being fat, whenever someone was too thin or muscular, the tune changed.
There was a contreversial ad in London from a company called Protein World, where they used a "thin" woman as the model. And the CEO was ripped as hell.
The threads were filled with people calling them anorexic, cunt, grotesque, gross, and making all sorts of judgment about their bodies. And ofcourse, no bans.
By mlclmtckr Go To PostSo many people who seemed like they built their lives around buying shit and preordering shit and posting about how they couldn't wait for some shit to become available so they could buy it
Also so much of the pop culture discussion was just completely uncritical consumption of obvious marketing bullshit. That was my first ban actually, talking about how it was kind of sad to start a thread about a post Chris Pratt made on Instagram to plug a movie
Hell yeah. I feel like that's where the weird Amazon fetish came from. "I can't wait until they take over literally everything so I can BUY THINGS easier!"
Oh nice, CRUD being banned quickly and effectively has pretty much cemented I'll be frequenting this place. That's really all I'm looking for, is a decently moderated site with good/frequent discussion that has a gaming aspect.
Wish it had a true dark theme tho.
Wish it had a true dark theme tho.
By The Rain King Go To PostHahaha. Holy shit. Some of this is heartbreaking.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMs4ds3WAAEcq_1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMs4ZJbX0AAtNsv.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMs4ackW0AAtAN2.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMs4bZpWAAA8J-Y.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMs4cWsXUAEMSlx.jpg
That was the front page of OT. No mods doing anything.
By Raging GAFfot Go To PostI'm pretty sure GeoNAF is an identity theft scam
You're probably gonna want to change that username.
By VitalNonsense Go To PostIt doesn't look like anyone is really taking that place seriously, though. More interestingly, a user there is telling everyone to be patient because a true successor to GAF is in the works that will be contacting gaf members soon to provide invites with restricted registration. I'm over there mainly just to stay in the loop on that. I think in the longrun, forms of restricted registration are necessary to create the kind of discussion gaf had at its best.Having initially left another forum for NeoGAF that did this exact same kind of thing, that's a recipe for total disaster. It's only going to exponentially strengthen the echo chamber effect.
A "true" successor to GAF would be to start over completely with a new name with new staff.
By Pennywise Go To PostMight as well particpate within other topics.I totally get that, and I mean, there's a lot to be frustrated about. I'm frustrated as well, because muscle memory again lead me to check GAF just a short while ago.
This one is gonna attract alot of anger, frustration and discussions about GAF. Which isn't that suprising considering alot of people spend a big chunk of their life on that platform.
That may also explain my "Not again" post. In all honesty it wasn't that many posts.
I feel genuinely bad for the people that relied on GAF as emotional support. For many communities, like the depression thread, I think it was a legitimate force for good and the community made a positive impact on many lives. Now all those people that relied on GAF to get them through rough times are just shit out of luck.
By DY_nasty Go To Postcrud's now banned btwDamn, get off slaent for a few hours and in that time span CRUD returns and joins reirom/3SP
like… if you got shit to get off your chest, don't go about it like that. this place has been around for a while and we're typically very understanding of a lot of frustrations, but that's not gonna be the norm.
Tf is going on here
By Altazor12 Go To Postnot posted yet (and I'm not getting my hopes up), I'm just going by what Karpalajoe posted earlier.At this point why even bother with a statement. The damage is done, you can't really put the ship back together after the last 48 hours.
By Pastry Go To PostI feel genuinely bad for the people that relied on GAF as emotional support. For many communities, like the depression thread, I think it was a legitimate force for good and the community made a positive impact on many lives. Now all those people that relied on GAF to get them through rough times are just shit out of luck.I agree but at the same time if this gets them to join actual support groups where they can go and meet real people rather than interact with strangers by text, it might be for the best. I don't think message boards are healthy for putting out personal problems. No one knows you.
By NimbusD Go To PostWish it had a true dark theme tho.
if you use the Stylish extension you can install this one
By Ruga Go To PostWas staying at a hotel with a female friend of his. The girl was feeling sick from drinking and got in the shower. He then decided to get in there aswell.
She revealed it on FB.
Mods start quitting in droves. Threads closed. etc
That's not really the main problem, it was the fact he acted like a fuckhead afterwards and made her feel like she was in the wrong for not wanting to fuck him. If he just been a decent human being about it and said to her "shit I am so sorry, I was wrong as hell to have done that, it was totally inappropriate and I am ashamed of myself" instead of treating her like dogshit.
By NimbusD Go To PostOh nice, CRUD being banned quickly and effectively has pretty much cemented I'll be frequenting this place. That's really all I'm looking for, is a decently moderated site with good/frequent discussion that has a gaming aspect.
Wish it had a true dark theme tho.
I'm using the dark theme
it's aight
By Ahasverus Go To PostIt's horrible. There are loads of parody accounts (CBOAT, Verendus, Cucking Eden (lol)). It's a parody and a cesspool. Same with the bore.
This is the only good replacement site, truly.
Yeah. Atmosphere is weird there.
By Pastry Go To PostI feel genuinely bad for the people that relied on GAF as emotional support. For many communities, like the depression thread, I think it was a legitimate force for good and the community made a positive impact on many lives. Now all those people that relied on GAF to get them through rough times are just shit out of luck.
I can testify they were a lot of broken people there. It was probably the vast majority, hence why the global mood about ripped people, religious optimistic, "alpha-male" culture and everything else.
It would be sad if all the good things about gaf, would disappear. I quite enjoyed the NintyGaf threads (never really bothered with other topics because i'm a Nintendo only gamer), the fact that (especially indie) devs would interact with common gamers, the fact that it was the only gaming forum where you could actually LEARN something from knowledgable posters like Blu or Thraktor... And yet, Gaf could also be a narrow minded place, and mods often were a bunch of hypocritical assholes. Only got banned three times, but damn, the last time i got banned for talking about certain minorities in general that are having a hard time in the context at hand (colored people, gay people, girl gamers...) and instead of writing them down every time i mentioned them in full, i made the mistake of saying something like "whether you're black, blue or green" (meaning in the context of my post, colored, gay, or any other minority) and some dumbass mod took it as a dig at those minorities, banned me and said i "should take my disingenious crap elsewere". WTF. But the owner of the forum can grope girls, cover up and protect pedopholes...
Gaf was too elitist for its own good. I had to wait one entire year to get approved (litterally 12 months). Perfectly fine topics got closed because the idiot controlling modbot wanted to be a dick. You could get banned for factually NOTHING. Once got banned for replying "no" to a topic that asked if Windwaker was the worst Zelda. Not constructive enough, apparently. If the owner of this elitist selfmasturbating gang, then turns out to be a class A asshole, you can bet your ass people will dance on your grave.
I hope some of the leading forum figures (that are not rapists, pedopholes or appologists) can form a new forum, without the stupid elitist crap, and build on all the good things.
Gaf was too elitist for its own good. I had to wait one entire year to get approved (litterally 12 months). Perfectly fine topics got closed because the idiot controlling modbot wanted to be a dick. You could get banned for factually NOTHING. Once got banned for replying "no" to a topic that asked if Windwaker was the worst Zelda. Not constructive enough, apparently. If the owner of this elitist selfmasturbating gang, then turns out to be a class A asshole, you can bet your ass people will dance on your grave.
I hope some of the leading forum figures (that are not rapists, pedopholes or appologists) can form a new forum, without the stupid elitist crap, and build on all the good things.
By Angry Puppy Go To PostAt this point why even bother with a statement. The damage is done, you can't really put the ship back together after the last 48 hours.
obvs nobody's gonna buy whatever he says, but at least it'd be some form of closure I'd guess? And probably a bit more decent (not that's saying much) than just going full temper tantrum.
Also, while we're venting, what was with the GAF tendencies to latch on to certain words and phrases and use them nonstop in almost EVERY thread? Was that just a byproduct of a lot of GAF's only social interaction being GAF itself and not really knowing how to talk to people?
Like fucking "milkshake duck" man....Pixelated Boat is popular in lefty Twitter and other social media places, but honestly I never saw it used really much elsewhere, but it was in every single goddamn thread for the last few months.
Like fucking "milkshake duck" man....Pixelated Boat is popular in lefty Twitter and other social media places, but honestly I never saw it used really much elsewhere, but it was in every single goddamn thread for the last few months.