By slider Go To PostGosh, there's so much that I didn't pay attention to / wasn't aware of. Of course I understand the difference between unsubstantiated rumours and something with more weight but still.Because Tyler was quick to scrub any references to the 2012 incident. This included nuking accounts so that references in their posts or even their account name was unsearchable in the Advanced Search option in OT.
There was a mod I remember called Steve Youngblood I think. Always struck me as pretty smart and decent.
By recon_zero Go To PostFollow wario64I’m not really a fan of twitter, gaming side of gaf was like a heaven for me.
It was always Wario64 -> GAF -> Internet ->GAF
By Smokey Go To Posti may actually get more work done now tbhYes please, i’m hoping some of the people who used to make threads on gaf end up here and it picks up from there, I feel so lost not knowing what is going on out there.
it was very easy to fall down the rabbit hole at gaf as a central location for news, which is basically what I used it for.
By Epsilon-delta Go To PostBecause Tyler was click to scrub any references to the 2012 incident. This included nuking accounts so that references in their posts or even their account name was unsearchable in the Advanced Search option in OT.
What was the 2012 incident? The ass-grabbing cover-up?
By Smokey Go To PostTo be pettyMore like facist.
Shitty people exist everywhere, the problem is when there is a system where they become... too big to fail or something. If EL was a moderator, we would be in GAF right now talking about him, but since he was The Owner, the site crashed. Weinstein is the same; if he was one producer at Sony pictures or something, it would still be a scandal, but he also wouldn't have being able to build protection during decades, so it would be naturally smaller.
EL wasn't a great community leader, he was this one awkward nerd who did the right thing at the right time and a community built around him. That said, it did built around him and so his shitness destroyed that community.
Power fucks things up.
EL wasn't a great community leader, he was this one awkward nerd who did the right thing at the right time and a community built around him. That said, it did built around him and so his shitness destroyed that community.
Power fucks things up.
I haven't been following the drama but from what I see on Twitter it's about Evilore being a sexual harasser? Has that been proven or aren't the facts on the table yet? Just trying to get it straight before forming an opinion.
By fredrancour Go To PostWell if a nerd-toy painting thread pop up here let me know so I can pop in to get told how trash I am at art get feedback on how I butcher kingdom death's minisStart one up. I think myself and Shun posted a couple things about that in the anime thread but it never took off.
So, start a thread for model painting or whatever and see who bites!
By Yharnam Go To PostWhat was the 2012 incident? The ass-grabbing cover-up?Yup.
Slightly off-topic, Opiate just posted on another forum. Everyone is coming out of the woodworks.
By fortunato Go To PostAny way to get invited? ;)Check yo PMs
By Alpende Go To PostI haven't been following the drama but from what I see on Twitter it's about Evilore being a sexual harasser? Has that been proven or aren't the facts on the table yet? Just trying to get it straight before forming an opinion.
I'm going on the basis that if every single admin and moderator stepped down, then it isn't just a rumour.
By Sblargh Go To PostI'm going on the basis that if every single admin and moderator stepped down, then it isn't just a rumour.
I would imagine it is how he wanted to handle the situation.
By Sblargh Go To PostI'm going on the basis that if every single admin and moderator stepped down, then it isn't just a rumour.
So they're all gone. Damn.
By Alpende Go To PostI haven't been following the drama but from what I see on Twitter it's about Evilore being a sexual harasser? Has that been proven or aren't the facts on the table yet? Just trying to get it straight before forming an opinion.I feel like the way this has been handled speaks more to the matter than anything. Forum is nuked, was essentially the wild-wild west since afternoon yesterday. All mods dipped too
By Sblargh Go To PostI'm going on the basis that if every single admin and moderator stepped down, then it isn't just a rumour.
Fair enough, where there's smoke there's usually fire
By Alpende Go To PostI haven't been following the drama but from what I see on Twitter it's about Evilore being a sexual harasser? Has that been proven or aren't the facts on the table yet? Just trying to get it straight before forming an opinion.There was a recent accusation and it has gotten people to bring up multiple incidents in the past of EvilLore being abusive towards women.
By BitStyle Go To PostI feel like the way this has been handled speaks more to the matter than anything. Forum is nuked, was essentially the wild-wild west since afternoon yesterday. All mods dipped too
I haven't been on since two days ago or something, wanted to check out the latest today and it was down.
By Alpende Go To PostI haven't been following the drama but from what I see on Twitter it's about Evilore being a sexual harasser? Has that been proven or aren't the facts on the table yet? Just trying to get it straight before forming an opinion.
If somebody accused you of a thing, I would think you'd quickly defend yourself in your own forum of all places. Not delete threads and any evidence about it. And then the entire mod staff decides to step down?
nah
By Alpende Go To PostI haven't been following the drama but from what I see on Twitter it's about Evilore being a sexual harasser? Has that been proven or aren't the facts on the table yet? Just trying to get it straight before forming an opinion.Tyler admitted himself he grabbed a woman's ass in Spain in 2012. Posters called him out and then he changed his story that she initiated contact first.
The woman in question then posted in the thread that Tyler did indeed sexually assault her. He then nuked her account. Posters again called him out and their accounts were also nuked to orbit.
Now, there is another incident Tyler was recently involved in and this is the fallout.
By Meus Renaissance Go To PostAny plans to be able to subscribe to threads? Or have a proper search feature?Search is currently being worked on, subscription is one of the next features.
long time gaf lurker here. known for years evil lore was a trash human being - all you gotta do is a google search - and from my experience, the ot stuff was pretty terrible, outside of the sports and series communities. now, the gaming part was spot on with news agreggation and media create threads. the sony bias and anti nintendo stuff was kinda disgusting though.
most probably will only continue to lurk wherever post gaf quality peepz go. that said, people seem nice here, if you can focus on bringing gaf gaming quality people and redesigning the site a bit, i feel its a bit too overbloated right now, you might have something here
most probably will only continue to lurk wherever post gaf quality peepz go. that said, people seem nice here, if you can focus on bringing gaf gaming quality people and redesigning the site a bit, i feel its a bit too overbloated right now, you might have something here
Hello there, another refugee from (German) GAF. That's my second forum purge of a forum I regularly visited, so I'm getting kinda used to it. Well.
Even though I was less and less inclined to discuss politics on GAF, I'll still miss it. Just this morning I thought "Man, SMO's review thread is gonna be someth...oh."
Let's see whether SL&ENT is what I wanted.No thread subscriptions is gonna hurt If subscriptions are coming, all the better (I used that feature on GAF basically as a "every thread I'm slightly interested in" filter), but at least in here the people seem nice enough ;) Also, I'm really interested if GAF in gone for good or if we'll ever hear from it again.
Even though I was less and less inclined to discuss politics on GAF, I'll still miss it. Just this morning I thought "Man, SMO's review thread is gonna be someth...oh."
Let's see whether SL&ENT is what I wanted.
By Meus Renaissance Go To PostAny plans to be able to subscribe to threads? Or have a proper search feature?
These things are in the works, especially search, but because of the situation and new users, I imagine he'll take a deeper look at it.
Keep in mind reilo made this whole place from scratch and is the only developer, with Kibner helping from time to time.
Another GAF refugee here. I have a few thousands post there but I doubt anyone would recognise me as I posted randomly here and there.
I loved the site and spent most of my procrastinating time there, but in hindsight and out the bubble, the flaws were huge.
My biggest problem is that the website was/is totally dominated by American politics. I understand that a majority of the users were from there and there's a cultural civil war going on currently in the country, but there was little to no empathy or understanding to those of us that do not reside in the US. Like, no one tries to see things from our perspective, only the USA issues matter and yours are casted aside, most of the time with total disdain. And if sometimes you fail to grasp something because it doesn't apply in your country at all you're a racist or misogynist as well. The American way is the only way.
Things went to the shit when Trump got elected. It became impossible to talk and discuss videogames for their own merits, without any political insight. No, I don't care if Zelda doesn't allow me to choose Link's gender. I'm OK with them allowing it but also don't mind if they don't. I want good representation in games but I also think that race quotas are a terrible idea. And I don't give a fuck if a Japanese artist or developer makes some creepy painting or game because as of today I still know what fiction and reality is; I just don't buy it and end of the story.
The previous paragraph a year ago would get me called a bigot, today, a white-supremacist or a nazi.
I see those at the GamerGate subreddits cheering for GAF's downfall and claiming themselves to be stalwarts of freedom, well, you aren't either. Freedom is neither black or white.
I loved the site and spent most of my procrastinating time there, but in hindsight and out the bubble, the flaws were huge.
My biggest problem is that the website was/is totally dominated by American politics. I understand that a majority of the users were from there and there's a cultural civil war going on currently in the country, but there was little to no empathy or understanding to those of us that do not reside in the US. Like, no one tries to see things from our perspective, only the USA issues matter and yours are casted aside, most of the time with total disdain. And if sometimes you fail to grasp something because it doesn't apply in your country at all you're a racist or misogynist as well. The American way is the only way.
Things went to the shit when Trump got elected. It became impossible to talk and discuss videogames for their own merits, without any political insight. No, I don't care if Zelda doesn't allow me to choose Link's gender. I'm OK with them allowing it but also don't mind if they don't. I want good representation in games but I also think that race quotas are a terrible idea. And I don't give a fuck if a Japanese artist or developer makes some creepy painting or game because as of today I still know what fiction and reality is; I just don't buy it and end of the story.
The previous paragraph a year ago would get me called a bigot, today, a white-supremacist or a nazi.
I see those at the GamerGate subreddits cheering for GAF's downfall and claiming themselves to be stalwarts of freedom, well, you aren't either. Freedom is neither black or white.
Also looking for Sales-age if someone can help, I always count down the days until the Media Create numbers on Wednesdays...:)
By Epsilon-delta Go To PostTyler admitted himself he grabbed a woman's ass in Spain in 2012. Posters called him out and then he changed his story that she initiated contact first.
The woman in question then posted in the thread that Tyler did indeed sexually assault her. He then nuked her account. Posters again called him out and their accounts were also nuked to orbit.
Thanks for this. Nuking threads and users is suspicious as hell, wonder what the official statement is gonna be. Kinda sucks for the forum though, I really liked it and was active. Now we gotta find out where all the quality news people are gonna go.
By BitStyle Go To PostCheck yo PMsIf possible, can I please get one as well?
By Irminsul Go To PostHello there, another refugee from (German) GAF. That's my second forum purge of a forum I regularly visited, so I'm getting kinda used to it. Well.Are the reviews dropping today?
Even though I was less and less inclined to discuss politics on GAF, I'll still miss it. Just this morning I thought "Man, SMO's review thread is gonna be someth…oh."
Let's see whether SL&ENT is what I wanted. No thread subscriptions is gonna hurt (I used that feature on GAF basically as a "every thread I'm slightly interested in" filter), but at least in here the people seem nice enough ;) Also, I'm really interested if GAF in gone for good or if we'll ever hear from it again.
There's been a lot of hooting and hollering from people who disagreed with GAF politically about how ironic it was that misogyny brought it down, but I have to give the mods credit for bailing as fast as they did. I'm sure it would have been a slower death if at least some of them weren't genuine in their convictions.
By A Serious Man Go To PostIs there a general GAF discord and could I scope an invite?Would like to know too. I looked around, but it seemed like there were so many separate ones for different communities.
Totally sucks the entirely community falls apart because of it's narcissistic douchebag owner. If he has any decency in him he will hand the site over to another staff member for the sake of the community. The community is bigger than one person but unfortunately was held together but a few.
Can we keep all trump news in the politics thread a) to keep that thread busy and b) so i dont need to be reminded that turbocunt exists in my beautiful south london bubble
By Alpende Go To PostThanks for this. Nuking threads and users is suspicious as hell, wonder what the official statement is gonna be. Kinda sucks for the forum though, I really liked it and was active. Now we gotta find out where all the quality news people are gonna go.At this point I wonder if there will be a statement at all.
By Alpende Go To PostI haven't been following the drama but from what I see on Twitter it's about Evilore being a sexual harasser? Has that been proven or aren't the facts on the table yet? Just trying to get it straight before forming an opinion.
As the site was crashing, a poster said he was there and stoped the girl's BF from beating up Tyler. Also, there's recorded posts of Malka being shithead about other stuff.
BTW, anyone got a link to dragon ball/general gaf discord?
By pbsapeer Go To PostYou know GAF, this really is the last of us.HAHAHAHAHA
damn
Would definitely like an invite to the discord as well. Someone sent me one but just when I was about to click on the pm, the site died
By Widdle Puppy Go To PostTotally sucks the entirely community falls apart because of it's narcissistic douchebag owner. If he has any decency in him he will hand the site over to another staff member for the sake of the community. The community is bigger than one person but unfortunately was held together but a few.
At this point a complete fresh start might be the best. Neogaf as a brand now is considerably toxic. If enough of the people that made Neogaf fun/worthwhile join together in a new forum then the community has a decent chance of living and growing.
By boris_feinbrand Go To PostAt this point I wonder if there will be a statement at all.
Probably not at this point.
By Yharnam Go To PostThere's been a lot of hooting and hollering from people who disagreed with GAF politically about how ironic it was that misogyny brought it down, but I have to give the mods credit for bailing as fast as they did. I'm sure it would have been a slower death if at least some of them weren't genuine in their convictions.
Indeed. But part of me feels like its a “straw that broke the camel’s back” type of situation. They all knew he did some seriously shady shit. They all had insider perspective of the censorship going on. This latest dirt was just big enough to hurt them by association so they bailed.
By Raging GAFfot Go To PostWell we don't need to tiptoe around this here, so plainly stated, the following have always creeped me the fuck out with their posts:Got to say I find this speculation a bit skeevy. Those are some extremely strong accusations to be made against people based on some weak circumstantial evidence and the loosest of connections.
#1 Besada - Strong impressions of him perving on some of the young and displaced Trans posters like Dax, who he met IRL, and Dax dropped off GAF right after
#2 Opiate - Repeated justifications of paedophilia, and the weird way he persecuted Fiction off the forum
#3 Charlequin - I have seen neither hide nor hair of his supposed wife, but lots and lots of his sketchy comments
Amir0x had GAF as his main source of community and social interaction for a tremendous length of time, as well as multiple private channels of communication with the rest of staff. And paedo traders always get busted as a ring.
By n8 dogg Go To PostCan we keep all trump news in the politics thread a) to keep that thread busy and b) so i dont need to be reminded that turbocunt exists in my beautiful south london bubble
From what I’m seeing they tend to keep all that consolidated to the politics trend so that should go a long way to preventing those topics from sucking up all the oxygen.
By boris_feinbrand Go To PostAt this point I wonder if there will be a statement at all.Putting his site in maintenance mode to prevent anyone from posting is statement enough.
By Ukumio Go To PostI'm going to try to post news but tbh I'm not entirely sure where to go for it as NeoGAF was my main source of news. I was mainly a lurker but as this is a fresh start I thought I'd try and be more active and contribute any way I can.A good source of news, at least for Japanese games should be http://gematsu.com as well as http://www.siliconera.com which is a bit more niche I suppose.
Gematsu especially is a site that gets a ton of news that got reposted on Gaf among other sites.
By sohois Go To PostGot to say I find this speculation a bit skeevy. Those are some extremely strong accusations to be made against people based on some weak circumstantial evidence and the loosest of connections.
It is which is why the topic was dropped and likely won’t continue throughout the forum.
By BitStyle Go To PostAre the reviews dropping today?Nah, next Thursday (at around noon-ish CEST I think), it was just anticipation of things to come. No NPD thread on Monday there either :(
By Script Kiddies LLC Go To PostPutting his site in maintenance mode to prevent anyone from posting is statement enough.True enough. Actions speak louder than words.