By Diprosalic Go To PostI clicked the ads on purpose š¤£I dont' think google algorithim counted on the community supporting the site.
And, as reilo said, we were too small, and the appeal process is virtually a "who the fuck are you?".
YEA BOIIIII
Looking forward to some non-loony bants and being allowed to say "Damn that girl fine" without 30 replies along the lines of "That's problematic"
Looking forward to some non-loony bants and being allowed to say "Damn that girl fine" without 30 replies along the lines of "That's problematic"
By ShimshonNaharai Go To PostHow many GAF refugees have there been in the past 24 hours?Last count we had over 500 new users.
Another GAFugee reporting in. Was Monado Blade on GAF but I doubt anyone would remember me.
Phew! What a day this has been. Went to sleep last night right after I saw some weird threads being made on OT and they were all almost immediately locked. One of the threads had ModBot saying that there'd be a statement "soon" and was wondering what the hell is going on. Figured I'd go to sleep first and find out what'd happen when I wake up in the morning. Woke up this morning and found GAF in flames and people on Twitter and Reddit dancing around it. ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Eventually found my way here from one of the Reddit threads. Just finished reading this thread and you lot seem like good people. Glad to make Slaent fill this NeoGAF sized hole in my life. Man, I think I've been a member there for almost 10 years. I'm gonna miss it, despite the stupid politics that popped up occasionally.
Phew! What a day this has been. Went to sleep last night right after I saw some weird threads being made on OT and they were all almost immediately locked. One of the threads had ModBot saying that there'd be a statement "soon" and was wondering what the hell is going on. Figured I'd go to sleep first and find out what'd happen when I wake up in the morning. Woke up this morning and found GAF in flames and people on Twitter and Reddit dancing around it. ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Eventually found my way here from one of the Reddit threads. Just finished reading this thread and you lot seem like good people. Glad to make Slaent fill this NeoGAF sized hole in my life. Man, I think I've been a member there for almost 10 years. I'm gonna miss it, despite the stupid politics that popped up occasionally.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostI hope there are some more Asian based SLAENTers, this place is always so dead when I am at work and everyone else is asleep.Malaysian reporting in!
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostI hope there are some more Asian based SLAENTers, this place is always so dead when I am at work and everyone else is asleep.You're looking at one! (Malaysian, surprised there are a number of us here)
By toadhall Go To PostMalaysian reporting in!Coolies, another Malaysian. Where from?
Join us in footballSlaent if that's your kind of thing.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostCoolies, another Malaysian. Where from?Don't, it's a trap.
Join us in footballSlaent if that's your kind of thing.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostCoolies, another Malaysian. Where from?Kajang! Thanks for the invite but unfortunately footy's not my thing :( I'll stick to my videogames
Join us in footballSlaent if that's your kind of thing.
By giririsss Go To PostDon't, it's a trap.lol
By toadhall Go To PostKajang! Thanks for the invite but unfortunately footy's not my thing :( I'll stick to my videogamesAh that's alright
By Deadbeat Go To PostHopefully the gaf crowd coming here isnt the dog piling "I dont like thing therefore you should campaign against it too" people.I agree so much with this.
Female videogame characters in skimpy clothes? Dont give a shit. Pokemon only having male or female as character choices? Dont see the outrage to go boycott nintendo. Link being male only in zelda games? Again dont see the outrage. People complaining about white male protagonists in Red Dead Redemption 2 trailer? shutup already.
That was the problem on gaf. Complaining about things that if you so much as said you didnt care about it you got dogpiled because "it's 2017 get with the program". I dont want that cesspool of thought police coming here.
The outrage culture on there had gotten so out of control that it became unbearable. And it was fully encouraged by the administration as well.
Not being able to talk about a certain group of official Vita releases because they don't fit into their world view, yet much worse things going on behind the scenes is a-ok?
I hardly ever posted on there anymore unless something aggravated me so much that I couldn't help myself to comment.
As far as I'm concerned, the place was way overdue for a complete reset so I'm certainly not sad about it crumbling to dust.
The problem with that it though, that we're losing a ton of fantastic content that got buried underneath the daily heap of BS.
I just hope there's a backup somewhere so that someone can put together an archive of some of the great stuff the board did have, mostly in the community sections.
http://slaent.com/thread/1236143/
I made a new thread so that new members could maybe reconnect with their old communities from GAF.
I made a new thread so that new members could maybe reconnect with their old communities from GAF.
By potam Go To Postyou're on goofballs, mister
edit: ok lemme rephrase: the views of the average person on there weren't that extreme, but the obsession with bringing up race/gender/sexuality at every turn is definitely not normal
Not to derail, but I donāt think thatās really what āfar-leftā means.
By meppi64 Go To PostI agree so much with this.
The problem with that it though, that we're losing a ton of fantastic content that got buried underneath the daily heap of BS.
I just hope there's a backup somewhere so that someone can put together an archive of some of the great stuff the board did have, mostly in the community sections.
The most probable reason that GAF is still down is that people are datamining it hard core.
By sohois Go To PostSeems crazy to say that Gaf was a far-left forum considering how pro-Hilary they were. You would pretty much never find anyone shilling for Venezuela or North Korea over there, and there were pretty much no genuine communists or socialists beyond the Bernie or Corbyn style. Compare that to some of the lunatic enclaves over at Reddit and Gaf looks way more moderate. I wouldn't say it was a centre left forum but it was pretty closeYup. I was banned for stating the following: Hillary has too much baggage. She won the primary but she might lose the general.
Lo and behold, election night comes and dead silence from the Hillary crowd. Bringing up the popular vote seemed like a half-ass attempt to
assauage the loss, while conveniently forgetting that these same posters predicted an outright Hillary blowout.
By Deadbeat Go To PostHopefully the gaf crowd coming here isnt the dog piling "I dont like thing therefore you should campaign against it too" people.
Female videogame characters in skimpy clothes? Dont give a shit. Pokemon only having male or female as character choices? Dont see the outrage to go boycott nintendo. Link being male only in zelda games? Again dont see the outrage. People complaining about white male protagonists in Red Dead Redemption 2 trailer? shutup already.
That was the problem on gaf. Complaining about things that if you so much as said you didnt care about it you got dogpiled because "it's 2017 get with the program". I dont want that cesspool of thought police coming here.
Here's hoping you can respect / be emphatic that there's an audience that would prefer to see inclusivity in the media they consume.
As someone who was permaād for ridiculously petty reasons, I would actually like to defend what I consider to have been the good parts of NeoGAF.
Mods were generally thorough and clear about where the forum stood on the political spectrum, and allowed for calm rational disagreement far more often than not. Meanwhile, in recent years the political right has moved so far to the extreme that what seemed then sensibly āliberalā must appear like evil communism to young dumb kids ā who, frankly, tend to parrot the irrational, cognitively dissonant talking points from their echo chambers.
GAF, in some ways, was also an echo chamber, with some very poor moderation at times, but it was a very loud and resonant one, that did offer space for broad and intellectually superlative discussion, were its users to bother engaging in it. But people on all sides ā endemic to the Internet ā used their anonymity to launch personal attacks amid unending logical fallacies.
Itās really a microcosm of greater society.
A society whose President, as it turns out, boasts about sexual harassment.
Mods were generally thorough and clear about where the forum stood on the political spectrum, and allowed for calm rational disagreement far more often than not. Meanwhile, in recent years the political right has moved so far to the extreme that what seemed then sensibly āliberalā must appear like evil communism to young dumb kids ā who, frankly, tend to parrot the irrational, cognitively dissonant talking points from their echo chambers.
GAF, in some ways, was also an echo chamber, with some very poor moderation at times, but it was a very loud and resonant one, that did offer space for broad and intellectually superlative discussion, were its users to bother engaging in it. But people on all sides ā endemic to the Internet ā used their anonymity to launch personal attacks amid unending logical fallacies.
Itās really a microcosm of greater society.
A society whose President, as it turns out, boasts about sexual harassment.
I was a member there since 2006. Over time I just quit posting and lurked only for breaking news, gaming and otherwise.
Tyler is a hypocritical asshole for the way presented himself and the site, only to act in ways he did it appears over a long period of time.
I feel sorry for the community there, who by and large are left with this mess and scattered to the winds of the internet. But most of all I feel sorry to his victims. I hope by publicly airing these terrible acts of harassment that they are able to move on somewhat.
Tyler is a hypocritical asshole for the way presented himself and the site, only to act in ways he did it appears over a long period of time.
I feel sorry for the community there, who by and large are left with this mess and scattered to the winds of the internet. But most of all I feel sorry to his victims. I hope by publicly airing these terrible acts of harassment that they are able to move on somewhat.
NeoGAF is a shithole and was for a long time. Little of value was lost, especially considering how little the gaming industry actually cared about NeoGAF.
I just hope this place doesn't turn into anti-Islam talk. If anything, Lets not discuses religion or politics. It just brings the worst of people and its one thing that I hated GAF for it. While moderators, did ban people for ''extreme'' comments, Anti-Islam/Xenphobia was left unscathed.
By sohois Go To PostSeems crazy to say that Gaf was a far-left forum considering how pro-Hilary they were. You would pretty much never find anyone shilling for Venezuela or North Korea over there, and there were pretty much no genuine communists or socialists beyond the Bernie or Corbyn style. Compare that to some of the lunatic enclaves over at Reddit and Gaf looks way more moderate. I wouldn't say it was a centre left forum but it was pretty closeA good chunk of us were more pragmatic than strict Socialist.
Pragmatic to our own detriment maybe?
Like I never believed for an instance that Bernie would have a shot in a general election. I knew one utterance of the tax increases people would see to fund single-payer that he'd be dead in the water. I thought Hillary would be the best shot to continue this middling normalcy we have. Where things are bad for some, but not any worse than they had been. Which is sadly about the best I've ever expected from this country. I knew Trump would be the Rep nom, I just didn't really think it'd be possible for him to win.
I expected more from the country. Not a lot more, but more. Bernie had a simplistic form of something I'd love to have in his country in his single-payer plan, but I didn't think it'd do enough on the cost control side to be feasible without massive tax increases on a good swath of the population. Doing it the right way might be too much Socialism for the masses.
A couple of us liked talking about basic incomes, but no, we were nowhere near as far left as some corners of other discussion boards. We talked a lot about feasibility, and working these ideas within the existing system. PoliGAF in particular ran the gamut of the left. Everything from the unabashed Socialists, to the Pragmatic, to the neolib shills *he says with a mocking guffaw*.
Definitely left leaning in the strictest sense. Okay... it's 7:40 in the morning here. I think I'm gonna sleep. Have fun out there today Slaent. Be safe.
By Screaming Meat Go To PostNot to derail, but I donāt think thatās really what āfar-leftā means.
yeah I tried to clarify with the edit...it's early and i'm not thinking straight
By potam Go To Postyeah I tried to clarify with the editā¦it's early and i'm not thinking straight
Ah, fair enough :)
By BowieZ Go To PostItās really a microcosm of greater society.
A society whose President, as it turns out, boasts about sexual harassment.
Nicely put. What a fucked up world
Also, I really hope all the Women who sufferd in the hands of Gaffer(s) gets their justice. The world is tough as it is, lets not make it even more tougher if you are female.
By faridmon Go To PostI just hope this place doesn't turn into anti-Islam talk. If anything, Lets not discuses religion or politics. It just brings the worst of people and its one thing that I hated GAF for it. While moderators, did ban people for ''extreme'' comments, Anti-Islam/Xenphobia was left unscathed.most of the mods would be left leaning.
But we try to make sure the place is centre moderated.
And hate speech of any sort is not welcome, racism, sexism, discrimination.
Unless you call soccer football, then we make you post with "that lot".
By meppi64 Go To PostI agree so much with this.
The outrage culture on there had gotten so out of control that it became unbearable. And it was fully encouraged by the administration as well.
Not being able to talk about a certain group of official Vita releases because they don't fit into their world view, yet much worse things going on behind the scenes is a-ok?
I hardly ever posted on there anymore unless something aggravated me so much that I couldn't help myself to comment.
As far as I'm concerned, the place was way overdue for a complete reset so I'm certainly not sad about it crumbling to dust.
The problem with that it though, that we're losing a ton of fantastic content that got buried underneath the daily heap of BS.
I just hope there's a backup somewhere so that someone can put together an archive of some of the great stuff the board did have, mostly in the community sections.
Yup the outrage culture has been whatās destroying America. Not to both sides this but the average people likely also doesnāt care whether NFL players are standing or kneeling as evident by the fact that the NFL still has ratings. The outrage culture of the right has basically forced the āpick a sideā mentality where if you arenāt in agreement then you āhate Americaā. This type of mentality is dangerous regardless of who does it. Like I keep saying some things are a no-go. But when the environment actively fosters groupthink whether that be faux news or Neogaf it becomes a dangerous weapon for censorship and injustice no matter who wields it. Thatās the biggest take away from all of this.
By hasanahmad Go To PostIt comes from the perception that most gaf users were Sony fans and Xbox console was constantly derided on its failure
I hadn't been active on the gaming side since PS3 days, so this sounds like opposite day to me.
By giririsss Go To Postmost of the mods would be left leaning.
But we try to make sure the place is centre moderated.
And hate speech of any sort is not welcome, racism, sexism, discrimination.
Unless you call soccer football, then we make you post with "that lot".
Your football involves a lot of fucking hand touching for it to be called football
Eat my shorts
By Dirk Go To PostSo he still hasn't come out and made that statement, huh?At this point, he is probably talking to / waiting on legal counsel. And that would be smart.
By mernst23 Go To PostI think there's a zero chance at that. EL should be deluded enough to think he can recover from this. He needs the site for money because he has nothing else and no other prospects. To think what was once worth millions will be likely to be thousands only if he sells to someone trying to recover the site is what is truly amazing.
He should have cashed out when he had the chance smh.
By Raging GAFfot Go To PostThunder plz, no buttfigs here. How about a fresh startThat definitely wasn't meant to stoke those flames again.
I was just saying "Those were my thought processes, and damn were they ever wrong, on every front."
By n8 dogg Go To PostYour football involves a lot of fucking hand touching for it to be called footballPresent them.
Eat my shorts
Hi I am another runaway gaffer. Kinda sad to see the whole thing destroyed as itās been home for me for the last 11 years. Hopefully the community will be able to rebuild either here or somewhere else. Iāve gotten into so many games thanks to it that I otherwise wouldnāt. Dx
By Dirk Go To PostSo he still hasn't come out and made that statement, huh?
Winds of Winter is releasing earlier :P
By Altazor12 Go To PostWelcome to all ex-GAF members seeking a new community!Thanks for the welcome! This site rocks on mobile btw
By Ignatz Mouse Go To PostI hadn't been active on the gaming side since PS3 days, so this sounds like opposite day to me.
I don't think gaf was full of sony fanboys it just reflected he market. I was all in on the 360 and i barely touched my xb1, sony just outdid them this time. I also remember that Sony got it rough on GAF during the early years of the ps3. I'm sure it would've flipped again if Sony fucked up the PS5.
By GestaltGaz Go To PostThanks for the welcome! This site rocks on mobile btwI agree. A nice and clean look. Dark theme of course.
Also EL was really counting on Gaf Gold to bring in some good income. I know a lot of users were willing to pay to support the forum.
He will be missing that influx of cash.
He will be missing that influx of cash.
Hi, yet another gaf refugee here. I'm not a very active poster and principally gaf was a good site for news. I was asking my self why in the last days more and more people were being banned, and finally yesterday the hell broke loose. Watching the forum slowly burn in that way was surreal, and heart breaking.
By giririsss Go To Postmost of the mods would be left leaning.
But we try to make sure the place is centre moderated.
And hate speech of any sort is not welcome, racism, sexism, discrimination.
Unless you call soccer football, then we make you post with "that lot".
I am sure its gonna be fine here, just had to pronounce my annoyance at the world.
and yes, I am aware of the shenanigans those footy dudes pull up amongst each other lol
I would KILL for Bernie and Hillary fans to have a fresh start and unite. I really canāt see any rational justification for not doing so. They were both problematic candidates for one reason or another, maybe one more so than the other or not. But if politically minded GAFers are to flee here (especially in this toxic Internet-driven era), I would suggest we all focus more on what we all share in common.
We are all real people struggling to figure out the world, and we all share a common humanity. Letās discuss complex issues with that first and foremost in mind.
We are all real people struggling to figure out the world, and we all share a common humanity. Letās discuss complex issues with that first and foremost in mind.
It's not true that little of value was lost.
NeoGAF had knowledge. From professionals working in the industry. From developers. From passionate people. From people that have been following industry trends and games for decades. This kind of human capital will be hard to find elsewhere, to be honest.
NeoGAF had knowledge. From professionals working in the industry. From developers. From passionate people. From people that have been following industry trends and games for decades. This kind of human capital will be hard to find elsewhere, to be honest.
By Epsilon-delta Go To PostDark theme of course.First thing I changed lol