By GillianSeed79 Go To PostYeesh, Jeff Gerstmann's comments during the most recent Bombcast on the relevancy of internet forums and online message boards in 2017 are really kind of disheartening, humbling, and depressing to some extent. They were basically saying GAF used to be informative for the industry but it was supplanted, like most message boards, by social media sites (i.e. Twitter/Facebook/Discord) years ago and that message boards in general are rapidly dying as members get older, get married and have children. He also insinuated that most users left are older ones, as social media has taken over. In fact, both the Giant Bombcast and Waypoint kind of spoke GAF with a little disdain despite it being a refuge from the general toxicity of the gaming community. It's fitting considering, much like Tyler's ego, GAF kind of fancied itself as this elite group of gamers/intellectuals that industry insiders looked to for guidance, when it fact it seems like a lot of journalists/industry members looked at us with eyes kind of rolling or outright discomfort. It kind of sucks because it hits home to me the fact I am getting older, I don't have many real life friends, I don't even have a Twitter account (although I've been considering making one), I just got engaged and I'm trying to have a kid. I also have no idea what the hell Discord is. It's hard when you get older and the only people you have left to talk to about your interests are your immediate family and those you meet on message boards. Oh well, you guys are cool.At least they talked about it. I haven't gotten to that part of the 'cast yet, but I was expecting them to sideways discuss it without digging into the meat of it, as they generally remain apolitical. Waypoint is at least guaranteed good for that catharsis.
Only ever needed a community to hang out in. Not be an industry insider or whatever. That was always illusory
By Papercuts Go To PostEverything on reset got pushed because a spy got through the vetting, lmao.
Oh boy this whole thing.
I feel like they're trying to do everything too perfectly. At some point they just need to dive in with both feet and see how it goes, whenever the site goes up it's going to be leaked anyway.
By GillianSeed79 Go To PostYeesh, Jeff Gerstmann's comments during the most recent Bombcast on the relevancy of internet forums and online message boards in 2017 are really kind of disheartening, humbling, and depressing to some extent. They were basically saying GAF used to be informative for the industry but it was supplanted, like most message boards, by social media sites (i.e. Twitter/Facebook/Discord) years ago and that message boards in general are rapidly dying as members get older, get married and have children. He also insinuated that most users left are older ones, as social media has taken over. In fact, both the Giant Bombcast and Waypoint kind of spoke GAF with a little disdain despite it being a refuge from the general toxicity of the gaming community. It's fitting considering, much like Tyler's ego, GAF kind of fancied itself as this elite group of gamers/intellectuals that industry insiders looked to for guidance, when it fact it seems like a lot of journalists/industry members looked at us with eyes kind of rolling or outright discomfort. It kind of sucks because it hits home to me the fact I am getting older, I don't have many real life friends, I don't even have a Twitter account (although I've been considering making one), I just got engaged and I'm trying to have a kid. I also have no idea what the hell Discord is. It's hard when you get older and the only people you have left to talk to about your interests are your immediate family and those you meet on message boards. Oh well, you guys are cool.You know, I was going to refute some of this, go on about how GAF is as relevant as it ever was, it seemed like more in the industry were taking part in it.
But you know what, my GAF is dead, I think at this point I don't care to defend its reputation. So whatever anybody says about GAF is right.
By DY_nasty Go To PostI don't think they're exclusive either.Reddit gets a bit of getting used to and it's pretty good for finding communities centered around very specific topics but like with social media, it's shit for actually having that community feel. I pretty much knew must Gaf members in the OT, I could tell you what dumb ass opinions they had about a movie or whatever but with Reddit, I'm pretty much just communicating with people like it's matchmaking or something, I reply to them once and never see them again. For being the frontpage of the internet, it sure does feel lonely.
Thing is, damn near every message board out there is archaic. Why use stuff that's a decade old and incompatible with baseline of social media? If anything, once message boards catch up they'll be intertwined.
edit: reddit is eye vomit
By makingmusic476 Go To PostRIP gaf.Hey Makingmusic !
Seems I can't upload an avatar because you can't get .jpgs on a Chromebook (afaik?).
By Not Go To PostI archived it. Is that ok? It's not a link to GAF anymore and it's not NSFW. It's hilarious though.So good. The losers trying to shit on it in the thread are so pissed I love it 😂😂😂
http://archive.is/iWzSw
Going through some gaf threads now is just depressing....
But then I see things like the recent Ace Attorney DLC Case suicide thread and for a moment things feel good again lmao
But then I see things like the recent Ace Attorney DLC Case suicide thread and for a moment things feel good again lmao
Yeah I just want a place to shoot the shit about things I like where conversations can happen relatively rapidly. If said place isn’t full of insiders I don’t really care as long as everyone is chill. The older I get and the farther my friends move away I have noticed that I’ve become more active on GAF (and elsewhere now I guess) as a way to maintain some sort of social sphere.
Social media really is lonely most of the times, even the ones you have your friends in and whatnot, most of the times you are talking with strawmen that are also humans. The level of public discourse that social media has is part of its inherently "mass media" design. It is mass media, but anyone can contribute. It's just as alienating and depersonalizating (probably wrote that wrong) as mass media, but you can scream back at the idiot box.
Tbh, blogging in the early 2000s felt that way too, so maybe there's a cycle. Maybe people will get tired of being part of those mass commentary boxes and will naturally seek stuff like forums for that more humane feel.
Or they will go outside and meet people, but that's just ridiculous.
Tbh, blogging in the early 2000s felt that way too, so maybe there's a cycle. Maybe people will get tired of being part of those mass commentary boxes and will naturally seek stuff like forums for that more humane feel.
Or they will go outside and meet people, but that's just ridiculous.
By Einchy Go To PostReddit gets a bit of getting used to and it's pretty good for finding communities centered around very specific topics but like with social media, it's shit for actually having that community feel. I pretty much knew must Gaf members in the OT, I could tell you what dumb ass opinions they had about a movie or whatever but with Reddit, I'm pretty much just communicating with people like it's matchmaking or something, I reply to them once and never see them again. For being the frontpage of the internet, it sure does feel lonely.
Yeah, unless you're some big name poster (which would require way, way more work than it would ever be worth putting into) it's pretty much exactly like you describe. It say something when smaller subs are actively scared of growing and trying to keep subscriptions low.
By Wazzy Go To PostHe still isn't banned too LOLLLLI'M STILL NOT BANNED LMAO.
I need to check out Toa's
By BlueBadger Go To PostI'M STILL NOT BANNED LMAO.Guess Tyler's not an Ace Attorney fan
By Not Go To PostGuess Tyler's not an Ace Attorney fanI think he's scared Edgeworth would actually best Phoenix.
reading the sexual assault thread is depressing and infuriating. I don't know why I'm doing this to myself lol. Men really don't like to be told how they probably shouldn't interact with women
By ApatheticDolphin Go To Postreading the sexual assault thread is depressing and infuriating. I don't know why I'm doing this to myself lol. Men really don't like to be told how they probably shouldn't interact with womenCertain people don't like to be told their ideas on other people are wrong.
By Sblargh Go To PostOr they will go outside and meet people, but that's just ridiculous.hey there, easy on the crazy talk!
I have a feeling that some older folk might just quit posting anywhere altogether. Kinda like when all your friends get married and have kids but replace them with the various forum off shoots. heh I might just become a lurker.
I just find it so crazy that people won't listen to others' experiences and testimony about how events like that make them feel. "oh, 90% of women don't like being approached on the street by random guys?? but you're saying there's a 10% chance??" like, wat. Most women don't like it. Don't do it. You'll be ok.
By Not Go To PostOmbra got in there. Aaaany second now.
Got in where?
By Not Go To PostOmbra got in there. Aaaany second now.Yup it's done soon when that junior invades
By YungMagus Go To PostShould added this songLMAO. I should have. So good.
Also, I know that feel
I'm just waiting now.
By ApatheticDolphin Go To PostI just find it so crazy that people won't listen to others' experiences and testimony about how events like that make them feel. "oh, 90% of women don't like being approached on the street by random guys?? but you're saying there's a 10% chance??" like, wat. Most women don't like it. Don't do it. You'll be ok.
People are convinced they're different, people are always convinced they're special, that they're the one, of course she wouldn't listen to that guy but this is me. People are insufferably full of themselves.
By Not Go To PostOmbra got in there. Aaaany second now.
You can set a watch to that little brown noser.
You know what infuriates me the MOST about it all, and always has?
The concept of virtue signalling. This idea that they ALWAYS put out, like, IMMEDIATELY, that you don't actually care about what you're arguing about. Because if you actually cared, that would mean it's an actual problem. And I don't care. And that would make me an asshole. And I'm not an asshole, so you can't POSSIBLY actually care about this thing that you're passionate about and you say is really important to many lives but I think is dumb and pointless and crazy. So they just ASSUME that you MUST be arguing in bad faith, and are saying the things you are saying to get "brownie points" or even worse, they assume you're just a "white male" speaking for minorities and try to turn it on how YOU are actually the one who is racist. Because they intrinsically realize that arguing with a minority about how they should respond to the treatment of minorities is gonna make them the bad guy, so they have to twist reality into being on their side.
The concept of virtue signalling. This idea that they ALWAYS put out, like, IMMEDIATELY, that you don't actually care about what you're arguing about. Because if you actually cared, that would mean it's an actual problem. And I don't care. And that would make me an asshole. And I'm not an asshole, so you can't POSSIBLY actually care about this thing that you're passionate about and you say is really important to many lives but I think is dumb and pointless and crazy. So they just ASSUME that you MUST be arguing in bad faith, and are saying the things you are saying to get "brownie points" or even worse, they assume you're just a "white male" speaking for minorities and try to turn it on how YOU are actually the one who is racist. Because they intrinsically realize that arguing with a minority about how they should respond to the treatment of minorities is gonna make them the bad guy, so they have to twist reality into being on their side.
I've clicked my Subscriptions tab a billion times today. It's muscle reflex to move my hand to that click and hit the left click on my mouse.
By adamsappel Go To PostI wore my NeoGAF t-shirt today. It came up in the basket rotation, which seemed like kismet. Even though it was a little warm I threw a sweatshirt on when I had to go out. Just like GamerGate made me hesitant to proclaim myself a "gamer" in unknown company, I now realize I can't even reveal that I was there during the "good years" (those 14K posts between August of 2005 and Sunday, and a couple of years of lurking before that). Beyond the fact it now seems to be skewing alt-right/GG/anti-p.c./but mah games, it's run by a petulant little shit who won't confront his own failings. Visiting the site today was sad and shocking. I recognize almost nobody, save for those leaving ashes behind them. GAF has become something to be ashamed of.
Are you adam from poligaf? I remember you from gaf, but I can't remember which adam you are, lol
By Cream Go To PostYou know what infuriates me the MOST about it all, and always has?All this. Pretty fascinating how stupid people co-opt academic terms they don't understand, strip them of all nuance and context, and gleefully parrot them in scenarios that don't apply until they just become slurs equivalent to "bad person doing bad things making me uncomfortable"
The concept of virtue signalling. This idea that they ALWAYS put out, like, IMMEDIATELY, that you don't actually care about what you're arguing about. Because if you actually cared, that would mean it's an actual problem. And I don't care. And that would make me an asshole. And I'm not an asshole, so you can't POSSIBLY actually care about this thing that you're passionate about and you say is really important to many lives but I think is dumb and pointless and crazy. So they just ASSUME that you MUST be arguing in bad faith, and are saying the things you are saying to get "brownie points" or even worse, they assume you're just a "white male" speaking for minorities and try to turn it on how YOU are actually the one who is racist.
BlueBadger holy shit man Evilore is overlooking your thread so hard and some people are finding out about his bullshit for the first time thanks to your images.
A++++++++++++++++
A++++++++++++++++
By YungMagus Go To PostBTWIf you find one, please tell me. LOL.
Is there an AA discord?
By Not Go To PostBlueBadger holy shit man Evilore is overlooking your thread so hard and some people are finding out about his bullshit for the first time thanks to your images.LMAO i can't believe it's still up!!!! I still haven't been banned
A++++++++++++++++
By Cream Go To PostYou know what infuriates me the MOST about it all, and always has?
The concept of virtue signalling. This idea that they ALWAYS put out, like, IMMEDIATELY, that you don't actually care about what you're arguing about. Because if you actually cared, that would mean it's an actual problem. And I don't care. And that would make me an asshole. And I'm not an asshole, so you can't POSSIBLY actually care about this thing that you're passionate about and you say is really important to many lives but I think is dumb and pointless and crazy. So they just ASSUME that you MUST be arguing in bad faith, and are saying the things you are saying to get "brownie points" or even worse, they assume you're just a "white male" speaking for minorities and try to turn it on how YOU are actually the one who is racist. Because they intrinsically realize that arguing with a minority about how they should respond to the treatment of minorities is gonna make them the bad guy, so they have to twist reality into being on their side.
To say you care genuinely about something altruistic and decent at heart scares them. Because in their cynical world, caring is the most powerful weapon they know they can't fucking win against. Even if GAF dies, them celebrating it's demise speaks volumes of the type of human beings they are. To act as if EL was a representative of the decent people who made that community, speaks so much.
By BlueBadger Go To PostLMAO. I should have. So good.
I'm just waiting now.
You should post the Bruce Lee img to top it off lmao
LMAOOOOOO I LOVE THAT HE STILL HASN'T REALIZED YOUR THREAD IS A SUICIDE THREAD AND NOW POSTERS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HIS REVENGE PORN
THIS IS AMAZING
THIS IS AMAZING
By Raiku Go To PostYou should post the Bruce Lee img to top it off lmaoYup. See if you can make it in.
EDIT: Lmao nice work.
By GillianSeed79 Go To PostYeesh, Jeff Gerstmann's comments during the most recent Bombcast on the relevancy of internet forums and online message boards in 2017 are really kind of disheartening, humbling, and depressing to some extent. They were basically saying GAF used to be informative for the industry but it was supplanted, like most message boards, by social media sites (i.e. Twitter/Facebook/Discord) years ago and that message boards in general are rapidly dying as members get older, get married and have children. He also insinuated that most users left are older ones, as social media has taken over. In fact, both the Giant Bombcast and Waypoint kind of spoke GAF with a little disdain despite it being a refuge from the general toxicity of the gaming community. It's fitting considering, much like Tyler's ego, GAF kind of fancied itself as this elite group of gamers/intellectuals that industry insiders looked to for guidance, when it fact it seems like a lot of journalists/industry members looked at us with eyes kind of rolling or outright discomfort. It kind of sucks because it hits home to me the fact I am getting older, I don't have many real life friends, I don't even have a Twitter account (although I've been considering making one), I just got engaged and I'm trying to have a kid. I also have no idea what the hell Discord is. It's hard when you get older and the only people you have left to talk to about your interests are your immediate family and those you meet on message boards. Oh well, you guys are cool.That's cool, but Jeff Gerstmann has a community he can access and interact with any time he wants. Some of us have to work harder at it and so message boards are a great asynchronous way to do that. I'm not interested in having to look at my phone every 30 seconds to see what new dumbshit thing I should retweet.
I think we can agree that for as flashy as the others were, BluBadger's account suicide is the best
if only because i love ace attorney
You should have added apollo saying "I-I'm NOT fine (with this)"
if only because i love ace attorney
You should have added apollo saying "I-I'm NOT fine (with this)"
By Raiku Go To PostYou should post the Bruce Lee img to top it off lmaoJust edited it into the OP lmao
By Mailbox Go To PostI think we can agree that for as flashy as the others were, BluBadger's account suicide is the best
if only because i love ace attorney
You should have added apollo saying "I-I'm NOT fine (with this)"
Hahahahaha. I love Ace Attorney too. It's an unhealthy obsession. Thanks sis! ;P
By BlueBadger Go To PostJust edited it into the OP lmaoOhh my god, I haven't even played the Ace Attorney games and your thread is officially my favorite of them all. I can't stop laughing every time I check in on it. Well done, man LMAO
Hahahahaha. I love Ace Attorney too. It's an unhealthy obsession. Thanks sis! ;P
SLAENT needs a reload button at the bottom, and also a way to enter a page number, rather than next page or last page.
By Jotakori Go To PostOhh my god, I haven't even played the Ace Attorney games and your thread is officially my favorite of them all. I can't stop laughing every time I check in on it. Well done, man LMAOLMAO. Thanks ;P I gotta thank Wazzy for suggesting/helping me out with it.
By BlueBadger Go To PostI'M STILL NOT BANNED LMAO.I've seen you in the Music Production Thread. Trying to get people in the production discord, but so many people went grey. You want an invite?
By The Kree Go To PostI've seen you in the Music Production Thread. Trying to get people in the production discord, but so many people went grey. You want an invite?Yeah count me in! :) Thanks!!
By GillianSeed79 Go To PostYeesh, Jeff Gerstmann's comments during the most recent Bombcast on the relevancy of internet forums and online message boards in 2017 are really kind of disheartening, humbling, and depressing to some extent. They were basically saying GAF used to be informative for the industry but it was supplanted, like most message boards, by social media sites (i.e. Twitter/Facebook/Discord) years ago and that message boards in general are rapidly dying as members get older, get married and have children. He also insinuated that most users left are older ones, as social media has taken over. In fact, both the Giant Bombcast and Waypoint kind of spoke GAF with a little disdain despite it being a refuge from the general toxicity of the gaming community. It's fitting considering, much like Tyler's ego, GAF kind of fancied itself as this elite group of gamers/intellectuals that industry insiders looked to for guidance, when it fact it seems like a lot of journalists/industry members looked at us with eyes kind of rolling or outright discomfort. It kind of sucks because it hits home to me the fact I am getting older, I don't have many real life friends, I don't even have a Twitter account (although I've been considering making one), I just got engaged and I'm trying to have a kid. I also have no idea what the hell Discord is. It's hard when you get older and the only people you have left to talk to about your interests are your immediate family and those you meet on message boards. Oh well, you guys are cool.
I of course can't talk for everybody, but that wasn't the reason I was on GAF and I'm maybe projecting, but I think most of GAF wasn't either.
GAF was an excellent source for gaming news for me. One click on my smartphone and I was able to see all the "important" news on the front page. No matter where I was, or what I was doing atm. The informations were easy to access and loading was fast. Even better, because of the sheer mass of people active on GAF, most information was available fast. The relevant stuff stayed on the front page, while all the rest wandered slowly into the background. It worked perfectly, I no longer had to browse through several sites like kotaku, IGN, etc.
Load up GAF, look through the threads, pick one. done. Easy and convenient.
The second reason were PC performance threads. Wanted to know if a new game runs fine? Just look into it. There is your answer. People (with similar hardware) often sometimes posted "optimal" settings that helped running a game at your desired resolution/fps. This was sometimes more reliable then benchmarks.
The third reason were gaming OTs: People there were very helpful. Stuck on a certain part? Just ask, wait a minute and there was your helpful answer. No jokes or stupid comments about your "noobish" question. In some cases people even randomly grouped up to help other gafers in MP/co-op games. That was amazing and a huge difference to other social media sites/forums.
Other people had of course different reasons to be on GAF, community threads, movie talk, tech talk, forum games etc. You name it, you get it (for the most part). I was also under the impression that GAF was relatively drama free. For example I only learned about the current EL drama because NeoGaf was offline for such a long time, so I started digging around myself (aka use google). I stumbled that way about the amirox stuff and about him defending pedophiles. My mind was blown that second and even more after learning that people were banned just because they wanted to talk about this (and sorry for my language) massive pile of shit. I later found some ridiculous EL posts (like the Sextology stuff), some archived, "you were banned because I say so and don't like you" messages etc. That started to paint a totally different picture about NeoGad tbh. That alone was enough to made me regret ever visiting that site. EL response to the current drama was just the icing on the cake. I'm starting to get a good picture about who this guys really is.
By BlueBadger Go To PostJust edited it into the OP lmao
Hahahahaha. I love Ace Attorney too. It's an unhealthy obsession. Thanks sis! ;P
lol np bud. I really wanna play the ace attorney games again but the 123 HD collection isn't on android and i don't have a nintendo handheld :(
I'm a guy actually. Maybe i should stop using women as my avi lolol
By Buffer Go To PostSLAENT needs a reload button at the bottom, and also a way to enter a page number, rather than next page or last page.You can do it in the URL, unlike GAF