By Auto Simeone Go To Postholy shit that Fallout 3 RTTP thread π
Holy shit hahahaha
By TheBronxMan Go To PostThat Fallout thread is the winner of the day.Holy shit, just saw it ahahahahah
By SunhiLegend Go To PostYou know, I still lurked here over the last couple years but since I mostly stopped making gifs while watching NBA or Football games I stopped posting here aswell, but I would still keep up with the threads from time to time whenever there was a big game I was watching. I do feel a little guilty as it's taken this whole situation for me to leave GAF completely and start posting here again, I should never have stopped sorry.
join us in the slaent discord. :) I'll send you a PM.
I don't get it, do they really think they can just ban away everyone from even mentioning it over there?
lol there's a lot of effort going into those suicide threads... Gaf being gaf i suppose.
Its like watching the Titanic sink in that movie...
Its like watching the Titanic sink in that movie...
Guys, why is that fake Persona 5 OST that was created a few years back still one of the best Persona OSTs
Fallout thread and the MG survive one is amazing.
Other one is a troll job.
By pulsemyne Go To PostUrgh the resetera twitter isn't exactly great stuff to follow. Reads like 4chan lite.I think the @ReseteraForum is the real one with the people following it.
Other one is a troll job.
By pulsemyne Go To PostUrgh the resetera twitter isn't exactly great stuff to follow. Reads like 4chan lite.
Are you following the right one? The real one has only tweeted a video so far. 4chan and GG sites have set up loads of fake honeypot accounts.
By ryutaro's mama Go To PostI agree with the sentiment that the community is what made GAF what it was, not the domain. Seeing familiar faces here makes me happy, cause there is history with them more than GAF. Continuing to go to a place where those people no longer reside is an exercise in clinging to what was. For me, the analogy is, my "family" moved. I can stay in the old home where a new set of people moved in because the house represents a source of memories OR I can move on with my "family" and on to new memories.Lemme hold $5, cousin..
I choose the latter.
By TheBronxMan Go To PostThat Fallout thread is the winner of the day.The Gaf GOTY thread was classic too.
By Moris Go To PostI might be inclined to agree if there weren't previous red flags about the person in question's behavior.
This is also how I feel. I have two exes who are absolute maniacs and things ended very poorly with them. I have no doubt they are the type of people to try to fuck me over by lying about something in our mutual past. So if it was someone else I might believe him.
But Tyler has lost any benefit of doubt through years of questionable behavior and displays of staggering arrogance.
By SiddX Go To PostThis is also how I feel. I have two exes who are absolute maniacs and things ended very poorly with them. I have no doubt they are the type of people to try to fuck me over by lying about something in our mutual past. So if it was someone else I might believe him.WHHHHHHOOOOAAA!!!!
But Tyler has lost any benefit of doubt through years of questionable behavior and displays of staggering arrogance.
How have you been??
By Enter The Noid Go To PostMan, I just wanna talk about gameshave I got the forum for you...
By ElBoxyBrown Go To PostLOL10/10 for originality.
By Enter The Noid Go To PostI don't get it, do they really think they can just ban away everyone from even mentioning it over there?Seems to be the course of action, sweep it under the rug, it never happened/it's overblown. It worked to an extent with the incident from 2012. I joined GAF in 2013 and had never heard about it until just last week right before this new allegation came to light.
Man this sucks man. I lurked on GAF for the entirety of my High School life mostly because GAF was accepted through it's filters for some reason and it feels weird to say but I feel like it helped shape me as a person. I did make an account but I mostly used the search feature so I can see old threads and I rarely posted. I'm on some GAF discords so hopefully I can get into ResetERA but even if i do I'll stick around here. This was the community I was fearing would be gone and while it may not be as big it holds the spirit better than even NuGAF itself.
By Enter The Noid Go To PostI don't get it, do they really think they can just ban away everyone from even mentioning it over there?Eventually anyone that remains would rather talk about games than stick to things as morals
By Finale Fireworker Go To PostI don't think we actually disagree very much, I was just talking about a more specific population reaction. I'll elaborate a little, but first I'll respond to your comment about the mod team and the culture they reinforced.
Because you're right that moderation was often bizarre and unpredictable. ZHugeEX, a beloved user, was banned for "self-promotion" and nobody was allowed to talk about what happened to him. That was ridiculous. He brought a ton of information to the board and facilitated excellent discussion. But because he was deemed outside the acceptable range of propriety, he was banned unceremoniously. That was not a day I was glad to be a gaffer.
Likewise, when Romancing SaGa 2 was announced for smartphones in the west, nearly an entire thread was banned for mentioning the omission of the Vita version localization. Anybody who said the word Vita in any context was banned. Over thirty people of a thread with like fifty posts. I was one of those people and my ban message told me I was insufferable. That was another day I was not glad to be a gaffer.
These kinds of experiences were common, and you're right that even prolific posters and patriots of the board suffered at the hands of extremely strict and opaque moderation. With board loyalty dissolved, people are free to challenge and mock these parameters and let out latent resentment. I don't disagree at all with the idea that even "good gaffers" are angry at putting up with the board's problems for all these years only for it to end this way.
That has burned me in particular. There were lots of things I didn't post or was very careful to mention. I often went back and forward-quoted my replies to other responses to an original post so people would have full context on something I said and I wouldn't have to constantly explain or defend a single controversial point. I did this because I preferred GAF's problems than reddit's problems, or 4chan's problems, or any of the problems I was accustomed to elsewhere on the internet. I was unhappy when friends disappeared for no reason (Neiteio) and or were Juniored for boisterous thread making (Max Criden) but I shouldered the burden of GAF's sometimes punishing parameters because I considered everything else to be "worth it."
Now that the forum is not "worth it", I have a lot of pent up frustration regarding the things I handwaved or tolerated. I was played for a fool.
But in the wake up Evilore's utter human failings, the first sign the board was collapsing were the moderators walking out. It reached a point where even the staff was unhappy with what they were being asked to do, and based on some gossip in the Discord and conjecture from other members, many mods have been unhappy for a long time with the directives they had to follow. There were definitely still power trips that only the mod responsible can own, but much of GAF's suppression and restraint seems to have come from Evilore himself. Maybe this is absolving the staff too quickly, but moving forward, I am not willing to hold that grudge.
I admit that I wasn't considerate to all the reasons remaining gaffers might be bombing their accounts. Obviously there are hundreds of them biting the bullet and the fallout is immense. In the ResetEra Discord, the motivation for doing so is very consistent. As people announce their departures and post their suicide threads, it is accompanied by a denouncement of Tyler Malka and his board - not his staff or the community. I think this shows a lot in the content of the threads as well. Suicide threads focus on the inciting incident of this controversy, not as much the forum culture.
I certainly do not deny anybody's experiences. In fact, I often followed people out of the forum when they would be banned or driven out because I didn't want their last interactions with the forum to be negative ones. I'd send them PMs for the Twitters and chat with them privately and apologize for what they went through. This was also my way of sharing responsibility for the problems the forum had. I was not blind to them. At worst, I was an apologist. But that was a role I took sincerely.
So don't think I am trying to invalidate anybody's reasons for nuking their account. When I originally responded, I was relaying a POV based on what I'd seen in the Discord and Twitter. I think the confusion comes from the post I quoted was presenting an absolute, and I responded in an absolute, when really I meant to suggest it was more than one thing.
Which is the same thing you are suggesting.
Thanks for this.
I was interpreting the mods quitting as "You're an idiot, bye." Instead, you frame it as "Post-#45, it's been hell. We're not going to stick around to clean up your mess, TOO, especially in the wake of Harvey W."
By Xpike Go To PostEventually anyone that remains would rather talk about games than stick to things as moralsHow many people is that really gonna be though
By The Anti-Monitor Go To PostLong story short with me is that he hit on me a couple times, I rejected him, he found out I was criticising/making fun of him (heavily), he ended up permabanning me over⦠i don't even remember
Aha! I knew my memory wasn't that fucked up. 'sup anti, it's been a while
By SiddX Go To PostThis is also how I feel. I have two exes who are absolute maniacs and things ended very poorly with them. I have no doubt they are the type of people to try to fuck me over by lying about something in our mutual past. So if it was someone else I might believe him.
But Tyler has lost any benefit of doubt through years of questionable behavior and displays of staggering arrogance.
There's also the bit where the woman in question only posted it because of the #metoo movement and didn't actually expect anything to happen. Not to mention that post to the mods was insane.
By JasonMCG Go To PostIs there a way to follow/subscribe to Slaent threads? I already like this place!
It's coming!
By JasonMCG Go To PostIs there a way to follow/subscribe to Slaent threads? I already like this place!coming soon
By Enter The Noid Go To PostHow many people is that really gonna be though
Looks like after everyone took their shots, the board has already all but died. There isn't any real discussion going on.
So if he was falsely accused it still his bad for calling his false accuser crazy? He should be more sensitive to someone who is ruing his life?
I can not wait to shed some of you folks from my internet life. The crazy Gaf SJW movement Is over.
BYE BYE
I can not wait to shed some of you folks from my internet life. The crazy Gaf SJW movement Is over.
BYE BYE
By Enter The Noid Go To PostSo if he was falsely accused it still his bad for calling his false accuser crazy? He should be more sensitive to someone who is ruing his life?peace
I can not wait to shed some of you folks from my internet life. The crazy Gaf SJW movement Is over.
BYE BYE
By G Shumy Go To PostLaterhey, guys
you don't have to insult ppl (even on the way out) dude wants to find another place, by all means let him go.
By Enter The Noid Go To PostSo if he was falsely accused it still his bad for calling his false accuser crazy? He should be more sensitive to someone who is ruing his life?
I can not wait to shed some of you folks from my internet life. The crazy Gaf SJW movement Is over.
BYE BYE
Honestly, I think after Amir0x and the other things that people have started openly discussing since this broke (revenge porn, previous statements, and the statement to the mods), he's ruining his own life.
By DY_nasty Go To Posthey, guysNah. You'll notice I call everyone hoe..especially Slayven lol..my bad.
you don't have to insult ppl (even on the way out) dude wants to find another place, by all means let him go.
By Kimosabae Go To PostWhen the Bandwagon Effect happens in an insular bubble like NeoGAF had become; passengers feel emboldened enough to sling unsubstantiated insults at the outlier. More like white blood cells invading an antibody, than expressing general disagreement. The moderating curated this culture.thats fair it just seems super hard for a forum to moderate something like that without becoming too draconian. You can perhaps encourage well thought out responses void of insults and reaction gifs, and to be fair I've seen gaf mods try and do that, but even still if multiple people are responding with paragraphs to a posts they disagree with then what's stopping that person from feeling like they been "dog piled" on?
When there's large disagreement with a minority in a civil discussion, there's a distinct lack of "otherization" that became way too common place on NeoGAF.
By The Frankman Go To PostI like the "Some screens from Ancient Time" threadand it's gone
By Enter The Noid Go To PostSo if he was falsely accused it still his bad for calling his false accuser crazy? He should be more sensitive to someone who is ruing his life?His previous history has lost him "benefit of the doubt" in my eyes. I know compassion is an ugly word to many like yourself, but not surprising. Enjoy your video games and hopefully those "real life" and "SJW" problems you loathe and would rather ignore won't interfere with your precious hobby.
I can not wait to shed some of you folks from my internet life. The crazy Gaf SJW movement Is over.
BYE BYE
By reKon Go To PostYou indirectly brought me here (off someone tweeting you)
Good to see you made it out the war reKon
By Rave Go To Postmy thread was still peak tbh
no lies
The gravity rush one was pretty amazing though.