the gaming section is going to heck with all these threads O.o like... i dont know how gaf could recover ya kno?
By G Shumy Go To PostDogpile
Group think
Hive mind
Toxic
BINGO!
Virtue signaling, dogwhistling, SJW, libtard, RINO...
Just need 15 more terms. WE CAN DO IT!
By Alexhex Go To PostThis is fairly widely-believed, no?
Known, but believed? IDK. I have seen my fair share of groups, online and off, that say "NO POLITICS." Of course, they are nothing but vapid.
GAF being an echo chamber or a hive mind isn't a controversial statement, I'd say it's the truth. If you had a dissenting opinion - no matter how minor - your ass would get banned 95% of the time.
The problem is people who use those terms often exaggerate them in order to further their own agenda of pushing racism/sexism/etc. as normality.
The problem is people who use those terms often exaggerate them in order to further their own agenda of pushing racism/sexism/etc. as normality.
By madstrike Go To PostG, we got a "new" "friend" telling us we should have a converstation with that guy, why won't you listen? ;_; staph the dawgpiles
Shiiiiit..nah, I'm good..
By iriscomeback Go To PostOh god somebody post Wrex porn LOLhttp://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1454016 there you go
By Nelo Ice Go To PostWell here's my exit. I tried.Whoosh, gone.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=252796467#post252796467
By ned_ballad Go To PostGAF was the biggest center-left website on the planet
Receipts? or is this hyperbole?
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostA worldview where people are placed on the two-dimensional axis of "left, center, right" rather than seeing them in three dimensions is doom.
Absolutely agree. Which is why a conservative can also be against bigotry.
By TheMikado Go To PostAfter seeing so of those who migrated over I'm thinking those looking for a more common and more left thought process may be better suited for Waypoint. This place is centrist -left in my experience.
Ehh I disagree but without defining what you consider "centrist or left" I suppose I can't
By recon_zero Go To Posthttp://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=252789577
This is the new neogaf
Even gamefaqs has offtopic forums for different interests. They are going to lose a lot more members with this mentality. What does the community offer now when it's stripped of most prominent members and industry connections?
By aguirre Go To Postthe gaming section is going to heck with all these threads O.o like… i dont know how gaf could recover ya kno?He had his chance when he took it offline.
Either he could have sold it right away or released a proper statement.
The statement he released and the waypoint article on top off the changes and everything else that came to light, like the statements from EL to the mods, just took every major chance he had.
Now he's left with people and their account suicide and disgusting assholes that celebrate their "victory".
By Kimosabae Go To PostTotally disagree.
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Evilore AND the mods used up any goodwill the forum could have potentially had in this very instance by overt-suppression tactics during the initial phase of the fallout (deleting threads, posts and banning people). All of it is related. This is more than people just being salty about getting banned. Obviously, there's still some of that, but modern-GAF as culture deserves plenty of criticism.
I don't think we actually disagree very much, I was just talking about a more specific population reaction. I'll elaborate a little, but first I'll respond to your comment about the mod team and the culture they reinforced.
Because you're right that moderation was often bizarre and unpredictable. ZHugeEX, a beloved user, was banned for "self-promotion" and nobody was allowed to talk about what happened to him. That was ridiculous. He brought a ton of information to the board and facilitated excellent discussion. But because he was deemed outside the acceptable range of propriety, he was banned unceremoniously. That was not a day I was glad to be a gaffer.
Likewise, when Romancing SaGa 2 was announced for smartphones in the west, nearly an entire thread was banned for mentioning the omission of the Vita version localization. Anybody who said the word Vita in any context was banned. Over thirty people of a thread with like fifty posts. I was one of those people and my ban message told me I was insufferable. That was another day I was not glad to be a gaffer.
These kinds of experiences were common, and you're right that even prolific posters and patriots of the board suffered at the hands of extremely strict and opaque moderation. With board loyalty dissolved, people are free to challenge and mock these parameters and let out latent resentment. I don't disagree at all with the idea that even "good gaffers" are angry at putting up with the board's problems for all these years only for it to end this way.
That has burned me in particular. There were lots of things I didn't post or was very careful to mention. I often went back and forward-quoted my replies to other responses to an original post so people would have full context on something I said and I wouldn't have to constantly explain or defend a single controversial point. I did this because I preferred GAF's problems than reddit's problems, or 4chan's problems, or any of the problems I was accustomed to elsewhere on the internet. I was unhappy when friends disappeared for no reason (Neiteio) and or were Juniored for boisterous thread making (Max Criden) but I shouldered the burden of GAF's sometimes punishing parameters because I considered everything else to be "worth it."
Now that the forum is not "worth it", I have a lot of pent up frustration regarding the things I handwaved or tolerated. I was played for a fool.
But in the wake up Evilore's utter human failings, the first sign the board was collapsing were the moderators walking out. It reached a point where even the staff was unhappy with what they were being asked to do, and based on some gossip in the Discord and conjecture from other members, many mods have been unhappy for a long time with the directives they had to follow. There were definitely still power trips that only the mod responsible can own, but much of GAF's suppression and restraint seems to have come from Evilore himself. Maybe this is absolving the staff too quickly, but moving forward, I am not willing to hold that grudge.
I admit that I wasn't considerate to all the reasons remaining gaffers might be bombing their accounts. Obviously there are hundreds of them biting the bullet and the fallout is immense. In the ResetEra Discord, the motivation for doing so is very consistent. As people announce their departures and post their suicide threads, it is accompanied by a denouncement of Tyler Malka and his board - not his staff or the community. I think this shows a lot in the content of the threads as well. Suicide threads focus on the inciting incident of this controversy, not as much the forum culture.
I certainly do not deny anybody's experiences. In fact, I often followed people out of the forum when they would be banned or driven out because I didn't want their last interactions with the forum to be negative ones. I'd send them PMs for the Twitters and chat with them privately and apologize for what they went through. This was also my way of sharing responsibility for the problems the forum had. I was not blind to them. At worst, I was an apologist. But that was a role I took sincerely.
So don't think I am trying to invalidate anybody's reasons for nuking their account. When I originally responded, I was relaying a POV based on what I'd seen in the Discord and Twitter. I think the confusion comes from the post I quoted was presenting an absolute, and I responded in an absolute, when really I meant to suggest it was more than one thing.
Which is the same thing you are suggesting.
By Loki619 Go To Posthttp://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1454016 there you go
Oh crap I meant posted, because I already saw it hahaha, now I saw it again nice
By Loki619 Go To Posthttp://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1454016 there you goLMAOOOO
By Loki619 Go To Posthttp://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1454016 there you goThe title looks like clickbait, but I think he copied a long-standing thread's title. Clever.
By LFMartins86 Go To PostIf anyone knows people from the Mental Health thread, you could direct them to here.
As someone who has suffered with depression for more than 15 years, I know how online communities can help and how you can feel lost without that safety net.
I mean, you could become a Belenenses fan, right?
:)
By Pennywise Go To PostHe had his chance when he took it offline.it's not a good place.. maybe my ban was a blessing :P p.s love the johan avatar!
Either he could have sold it right away or released a proper statement.
The statement he released and the waypoint article on top off the changes and everything else that came to light, like the statements from EL to the mods, just took every major chance he had.
Now he's left with people and their account suicide and disgusting assholes that celebrate their "victory".
Does anyone else feel that they'd rather GAF just never came back after Saturday than to see it in the state it's in now?
Siege may have one of the most toxic communities towards new players, but deep down they're good peoples.
Someone just posted a Krogan porn suicide thread. You have been warned: (Link removed as against TOS. My bad)
Edit - Ninja'd
Edit - Ninja'd
Any update on the launch of resetera? Its not that I don't like it here, but I wanna see what its like before committing to either. Chances are I will end up using both.
By Loki619 Go To Posthttp://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1454016 there you goPlease don't forget to tag stuff like that with NSFW.
While mods here are a bit more tolerant towards all the venting and the transition phase alot of people having, we still got rules.
By ned_ballad Go To PostDoes anyone else feel that they'd rather GAF just never came back after Saturday than to see it in the state it's in now?Yep, it's just sad watching it burn like this, like an old pet you know is in pain. :/
By ned_ballad Go To PostDoes anyone else feel that they'd rather GAF just never came back after Saturday than to see it in the state it's in now?I'm shocked he had the audacity to reopen. Of course with his multiple statements he went full Trump/O'Reilly/Weinstein.
My favourite part is that everyone seems to acting like there's nothing wrong just avoiding the bent over wired in the room
By Altazor12 Go To Postyou'd be surprised by how many people think "political" means "related to politicians" and just that.Yeaaah, I'm aware. I like to think people assume that out some sort of weird semantic--albeit it pedantic--distinction rather than outright hand-waving, but that just ain't the way the world works.
By ned_ballad Go To PostDoes anyone else feel that they'd rather GAF just never came back after Saturday than to see it in the state it's in now?
I do.
Man, it's just sad.
By Pennywise Go To PostPlease don't forget to tag stuff like that with NSFW.Sorry it didn't cross my mind will.remebernin future
While mods here are a bit more tolerant towards all the venting and the transition phase alot of people having, we still got rules.
By madstrike Go To PostI mean, you could become a Belenenses fan, right?
:)
Whoa man. Portuguese here?
By LFMartins86 Go To PostGuys, cool it with the NSFW links.Yeah..really didn't need to ever see that in my life..
By Arkanius Go To PostWhoa man. Portuguese here?
Pretty sure there's quite a few. We were talking about bacalhau here yesterday and all :>
By Arkanius Go To PostWhoa man. Portuguese here?Yes, at least 7 or 8 Portuguese users.
By Fenderputty Go To PostI stayed up way to late last night lolSame lol college is gonna suck today
By Altazor12 Go To PostI do.It really is.
Man, it's just sad.
I feel bad for the people blissfully ignorant of the scope of the problem, posting in dying community threads hoping to pick right back up where they stopped. They're not being hostile (they aren't celebrating GAF's new rules), they just know no other forum, there friends are on GAF (or were) and they want to just go back to whatever was going on before Saturday. But it never will. But they keep trying to make it.
Like SerebiiJoe posting a random Ultra Sun/Moon leak today. In the middle of the chaos, there's a new bit of Pokemon news, and it's posted just as it would on a random Tuesday. Like someone tending a garden in the middle of a war zone or something.
By GQman2121 Go To PostI just realized I have no idea what a Gator is…I ate it, once. Overrated meat.
I honestly had zero problems with GAF before all of this. So I either slept through the issues or am part of the problem...
By ned_ballad Go To PostDoes anyone else feel that they'd rather GAF just never came back after Saturday than to see it in the state it's in now?
Yes, I thought it would be better this way but it's hurting a lot. It feels sad.
what happened with neogaf is bad, but it does not compare with the horror i just experienced: my very late game save in dark souls III got corrupted.
Reilo is the source code for Slaent on Github? Just wanna look at your implementation of who quoted you...and to refresh myself on Django.
Reilo is constantly adding new features. He's doing this all on his own. So send him your energy.
By JershJopstin Go To Posthttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453678
Side note, just noticed you can see posts that quote you on this site. Awesome.
Edit: forgot to quote. Kinda ironic, given my above revelation :p
Reilo is constantly adding new features. He's doing this all on his own. So send him your energy.
By ned_ballad Go To PostDoes anyone else feel that they'd rather GAF just never came back after Saturday than to see it in the state it's in now?
yes and no
it's a damn shame to see it like this but it also keeps the moths flying around the big bright light instead of dispersing elsewhere
Hey folks, let's not coordinate suicide bans here. If y'all are going to do what you're going to do, that's on you but let's try to be above what they have going on over there. Thanks.
