By TheBronxMan Go To PostEvilore is a modhe don't care
on the internet
on a web forum
he does it for free
he takes his “job” very seriously
he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
he trolls images he doesn’t like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
he will never have a real job
he will never move out of his parent’s house
he will never be at a healthy weight
he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
he will never have a girlfriend
he will never have any friends
By c++ Go To PostI don't know if EvilLore is the one doing all of the bannings right now, but I literally just got perm'ed for saying that having an OT forum without political discussion would be a good thing. I don't even know anymore, I think he's gone full retard or something. I was literally agreeing with his decision and got permed over it? As for how my response was worded, it was like 4 words "honestly that sounds great"
lol Dude has been up all night.
He ain't taking any chances.
By rvy Go To Posthe don't careIs that really him or a dude that just looks like him?
man scrolling through the new thread twitter is crazy lol
is this the one and only bronx man? does kanye have any classics? has sam raimi ever made a good movie?
By TheBronxMan Go To PostEvilore is a mod
on the internet
on a web forum
he does it for free
he takes his “job” very seriously
he does it because it is the only amount of power & control he will ever have in his pathetic life
he trolls images he doesn’t like because whenever he gets upset he has an asthma attack
he will never have a real job
he will never move out of his parent’s house
he will never be at a healthy weight
he will never know how to cook anything besides a hot pocket
he will never have a girlfriend
he will never have any friends
is this the one and only bronx man? does kanye have any classics? has sam raimi ever made a good movie?
By Blizzard Go To PostI added a bunch of game songs and soundtracks since I've run out of game remixes. :(Dang. Might as well just post the Ctrl alt del evilore shop lol
The Trump-like excuses from those defending him him would make me laugh if they weren’t so sad. People justifying that this is normal male behavior, my ass, lol. Evilore could have made things so much better for himself if he just owned up to what he did, apologized, and “distanced” himself from the site. The backlash is in part to the allegations against him but also because of his ridiculously childish response and going out of his way to trash this woman as crazy and not worth listening. He’s bonkers. Even if he was telling the absolute truth, who wants to be around someone like that? Eek.
By phqphq Go To Postman scrolling through the new thread twitter is crazy lol7 classics, 8 if you count WTT. Spider-Man 2 still the GOAT cape movie.
is this the one and only bronx man? does kanye have any classics? has sam raimi ever made a good movie?
By hasanahmad Go To PostNo the hive mind mentality was to get outraged at everything that moved and talked if it didn’t conform to an inch within their world view.
Also those talking normally on GAF RIGHT now are pure enablers and supporters of evilore actions they cannot be this aloof or stupid
Ehh it's kinda taking one hivemind and replacing is with another. These people will still dogpile on those who go against their opinions but for different reasons. Happens all over the internet especially with sites like reddit and it's downvoting system. But it's only a safespace it it's pro minority I guess.
By black faust Go To PostA lot of people with contrarian views rarely made good arguments or poorly elaborated, leaving vague pieces of information as bait.
Posts like "I would post but I know I'm going to get dog piled for this" were just baits, if you have something to say and could back it up in that OP then the problem was mostly mitigated, but so many people relied on the vague shitpost style of the former, leading the reader annoyance.
There's people that were on GAF and this forum who have done agreements to disagree, but only because they've actually constructed posts in a decent manner.
Actually I think this forum will be a good judge and contrast to what GAF was like. I've seen some of the standard dog-pile/ban him tactics that had been used on GAF not work here and people were able to settle civilly without either party feeling ostracized or getting banned. I feel like those are the skills people should be learning and this site seems to foster and nurture those valuable adult skills.
By TheBronxMan Go To Post7 classics, 8 if you count WTT. Spider-Man 2 still the GOAT cape movie.
ok that checks out
By hasanahmad Go To PostNo the hive mind mentality was to get outraged at everything that moved and talked if it didn’t conform to an inch within their world view.Let's be honest, most people that were banned weren't banned because of their political position. CPP_is_King and Diablos were all over political discussions and managed to not get banned. No, it's just that everyone except those two didn't see that to avoid getting shit canned you only had to
Also those talking normally on GAF RIGHT now are pure enablers and supporters of evilore actions they cannot be this aloof or stupid
avoid complaining about hiveminds, derailing threads, and being homophobic/conspiracy nut/racist for the most part. Acting like a victim got more people banned than people expressing views.
There was definitely dog-piling though, and that was a problem.
By hasanahmad Go To Post2004-2012 you got discuss any game. Then you can’t discuss any game, no threads or bannedOk, first of all, as someone who was a lurker, not an active poster, that is absolutely not what happened in OT.
Dogpiling against centrist users was allowed
Any inch to the right or left to their view of society and politics and users were dogpiled and finally banned
Mods became the personalities and users became the cretins
The only decent places was communities , OT and Gaming section should were a rot and that too was getting infiltrated
Mods had favorites who would post drive by shit posts and trolls and never get permabanned but anyone’s not within the slipstream of group think especially when it was not hateful or bigoted or indicative of such ? Instabanned
Not outraged enough ? Dogpiled and banned
Not opinionated enough ? Dogpiled and banned
Didn’t have an idea what the sensitive matter what ? Dogpiled and banned
It became a toxic and negative place
Second, are you aware that the "I don't want politics in my video games" is kind of a thing the Gamer Gaters have been shouting from the roofs?
Which is... pretty much what you're saying there.
Third, to everyone in the world, except Americans, OT was centrist as hell.
Equality for everyone, LGBTQ rights, anti-racism, pro-feminism, pro-environment, pro-poor people, etc, etc, aren't political points, they are human decency and rights. These are literally the only times the OT would pile on someone, if they were behaving against these things.
And no, it's not "just another point of view" to not like TeH Gays, because you're religious.
The fact that conservatism embraces discriminatory practices made people following that line of thought naturally opposite to the people frequenting OT.
So, the "Group Think" was common decency, and being humanitarian.
If that is a problem, then I daresay it does not lie with the people in OT, but those who went against these principles.
By Novis Go To PostEvilore doesn't do it for free. He makes about 50k a month off of gaf.I'd be shocked if he ever sniffs anything close to that again. The number of users is plummeting and I suspect a large section of the community will solidify elsewhere and become the go to place for others.
Amazing post from Deli2000 on Gaf
Truth bombs all around
GAF has never respected minorities, just merely tolerated them. Any time we spoke up about an issue that affected us and that made white people uncomfortable people like me and the communities we occupied were deemed as 'toxic'. Meanwhile i've had to deal with 4 years of condescension, dog-whistling, & baiting on issues like blackface, police brutality, hate speech & the n-word and that gets placed under the banner of reasonable discussion. Now those 'toxic' communities have been eradicated and everyone is jumping out of the rafters dance on their grave. And people have the audacity to believe that this forum even cares about minority issues beyond lip service. What do we have left now? A pseudo-intellectual bubble where people can just talk about video games and nobody 'virtue signals' any more, wow I sure feel at fucking home. How fucking inclusive.
GAF cares so much about black people that people actively rebuked and ignored any point they made about racial issues to cry about dogpiling, ignored black members concerns about the forum as a whole as SJW hysteria, and actively turned a blind eye to people going into the BCT thread itself trying to bait people. That's all 'reasonable discourse' apparently. Y'all were willing to implicitly buy into the stereotypes of black people being rash, emotionally charged, and unreasonable, and let that dictate the way you interact with the black community on this forum and black issues as a whole. The lie that this forum and a large section of what remains of it's userbase actually cared about this stuff is some grade A bullshit. You tolerated us, that's all. And now you don't have to anymore.
Truth bombs all around
By Zem Go To PostIf anyone wants to see where GAF is heading in the future just check out the mental health thread. If that's something anyone wants to be a part of, well, good luck to you.Where is it?
I don't see it in Gaming or Gaming Community.
By HylianSeven Go To PostIs that really him or a dude that just looks like him?Oh, it's him alright. Batong described him to a tee.
By joefu Go To PostDang. Might as well just post the Ctrl alt del evilore shop lolI've started having fun contributing something positive on my way out now. :P
Also I just saw a thread suicide from someone with a 10-year account and 68,000 posts, whoa.
By kmfdmpig Go To PostI'd be shocked if he ever sniffs anything close to that again. The number of users is plummeting and I suspect a large section of the community will solidify elsewhere and become the go to place for others.
I wonder if it'll reach a point where he launches an actual GAF Gold to try to just sucker in whoever stays.
I'd think a ton of people there are adblocking if they weren't already.
By Mr. Adele Go To PostSo when is Etcetera going to launch? I’m curious to see how it will work on it’s first months.
I believe enrollment will begin today. That's what I heard last night.
I love that Net Neutrality thread. It's framed in a way of how it will effect gaming and the forum seems totally confused as to how to process a political thread about gaming. Is it allowed because it's game discussion? Is it banned because it's politics? Who knows? But the entire thread has been arguing over locking it because it's "political trash" or keeping it open because it's technically about gaming.
It's impossible to completely separate politics from discussion.
It's impossible to completely separate politics from discussion.
By Necronomicon Go To PostWhere is it?
I don't see it in Gaming or Gaming Community.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453869
By Blizzard Go To PostI've started having fun contributing something positive on my way out now. :PI guess. Godspeed sir. I feel bad about how I treated you back in the day when we played LoL together. Kinda just left you or something and I apologise :(.
Also I just saw a thread suicide from someone with a 10-year account and 68,000 posts, whoa.
It's just completely bizarre being looking at GAF right now. The site looks the same, but it's obviously different. Like, what are these people thinking that are continuing the conversation as usual as if nothing happened?
By Cymbal Head Go To PostGoddamn, it is surreal (for a lot of reasons) to see Dudebro MSIFUSIHTS/SY2 making a statement about removing all references to GAF.Holy shit that game has been in development hell and its still sending a fuck you to EL.
By thinwhitemint Go To PostIt's just completely bizarre being looking at GAF right now. The site looks the same, but it's obviously different. Like, what are these people thinking that are continuing the conversation as usual as if nothing happened?For a lot of them this is what they were waiting for. Some of the people there seem to be walking the line of a ban talking about things, but seem to want to wait on suicides.
By Alcotholic Go To PostAmazing post from Deli2000 on Gaf
Truth bombs all around
I'm not black, but damn. Can't quite disagree with that.
By Novis Go To PostFor a lot of them this is what they were waiting for. Some of the people there seem to be walking the line of a ban talking about things, but seem to want to wait on suicides.
I am waiting for a good timing for my GAF account suicide.
By ned_ballad Go To PostI love that Net Neutrality thread. It's framed in a way of how it will effect gaming and the forum seems totally confused as to how to process a political thread about gaming. Is it allowed because it's game discussion? Is it banned because it's politics? Who knows? But the entire thread has been arguing over locking it because it's "political trash" or keeping it open because it's technically about gaming.
It's impossible to completely separate politics from discussion.
Wonder when they'll realize that.
By Burial Go To PostI am waiting for a good timing for my GAF account suicide.Same. Gonna wait for things to quiet down a bit later in the week and post something. Probably won't be as clever as some of the threads I've seen, mind, but I don't want people to get too complacent thinking everything's over.
By Zem Go To Posthttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453869Well, hell....
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453966
Good one, Solo.
Good one, Solo.
What's your favorite water based level?
OoT's Water Temple?
DK64's Gloomy Ghalleon?
Evilore's Shower?
Uncharted's Sink or Swim?
Super Mario 64's Jolly Roger Bay?
I personally am I huge fan of Mario.
By joefu Go To PostI guess. Godspeed sir. I feel bad about how I treated you back in the day when we played LoL together. Kinda just left you or something and I apologise :(.I'm sure I was plenty annoying over the years, I apologize too. No hard feelings.
They nuked the thread entirely rather than leaving all my remix links up or evidence of JSnake's post. That's a bit sad. Also I got the form letter ban reason instead of something unique.
At any rate, now my watch is ended.
By Finale Fireworker Go To PostNot exactly.
People are protesting Evilore, not the mods or the forum culture. .
Totally disagree. I think there's a lot of false oppositioning happening, when there's much granularity for the reasons why people are reacting to Evillore/GAF's meltdown the way they are. The mountain of whimsical perm-bans and the suffocation of dissension from particular progressive talking points from even liberal-minded people curated a veritable bubble/safe space, which naturally curated an opposition to that. You can see the Blowback Effect from this all over the internet right now. Even here, and in the other areas housing the post-meltdown diaspora. And to suggest that these people are wrong about being/feeling oppressed/suppressed by the culture at neo-NeoGAF is denying them their experience in the same way a white-male coworker would deny victim-status to someone claiming sexual harassment.
Opiate is at The Bore talking about how very human the modding had become in the past several years and humans succumb to biases. He's admitted his own faults as a mod there.
You were the perfect poster in the sense that, as far as I can tell, you stayed largely away from the political side of GAF unless it was somehow related to a game you were talking about. So it's natural your experience on the forum would have been very different.
Evilore AND the mods used up any goodwill the forum could have potentially had in this very instance by overt-suppression tactics during the initial phase of the fallout (deleting threads, posts and banning people). All of it is related. This is more than people just being salty about getting banned. Obviously, there's still some of that, but modern-GAF as culture deserves plenty of criticism.
By Burial Go To PostI am waiting for a good timing for my GAF account suicide.
Wait till tomorrow. I think there is a Metal Gear Survival reveal tomorrow. Just before it drops post Kojima returning for it. Then have fun in the OP. :p
Just can't how over much some people are missing the point over there. the ones rejoicing that they can talk about games now: A, you could do that already, I would regularly spend more time on gaming when OT got a bit much without having overly political discussions. B: the moderation staff are the exact reason why the forum was that way for years, and the leader of them is still there. Is a dude with that kind of ego really going to take a step back? to properly self reflect?The loudest people trying to shout down others were defended by the mods or at the very least left to their own devices and not banned when they thread shit or insulted others.
Is it really so impossible to have a decent political discussion where people learn from the craziness of the last few years? are people left there that selfish or so cynical that they can't think these could even be possibly attempted?
If they want GAF to be like 95 percent of other gaming forums on the web, they can keep it I guess.
Is it really so impossible to have a decent political discussion where people learn from the craziness of the last few years? are people left there that selfish or so cynical that they can't think these could even be possibly attempted?
If they want GAF to be like 95 percent of other gaming forums on the web, they can keep it I guess.
Just want to say that I've migrated here from GAF. Haven't heard of SL%ENT before, but this seems to be a welcoming community. Looking forward to conversing with you all.
By Blizzard Go To PostI'm sure I was plenty annoying over the years, I apologize too. No hard feelings.RIP. You gonna post up here for the time being? Waiting for resetera?
They nuked the thread entirely rather than leaving all my remix links up or evidence of JSnake's post. That's a bit sad. Also I got the form letter ban reason instead of something unique.
At any rate, now my watch is ended.
By Zem Go To Postproof no one reads the OP - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453966
Oh they're reading it
By joefu Go To PostRIP. You gonna post up here for the time being? Waiting for resetera?I'm going to browse here, waypoint, and resetera to see where the communities end up. Might be a mix.
Blizzard, I'm going to miss seeing your progress in the Inktober thread. Keep at the drawing, though!
By thefro Go To PostIt seems like the first wave of invites will go out to people in Community discord servers who are verified. I would try to not get banned from GAF until you get verified....whoops.
Is there anything I can still do? Or will I just have to wait until registration is open for those outside the discord servers?
By heavy liquid Go To PostBlizzard, I'm going to miss seeing your progress in the Inktober thread. Keep at the drawing, though!Thanks! I'm quite behind on that, but maybe another thread will show up for people to post last-minute Inktober stuff elsewhere. :P