By NateDog Go To Posthttp://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=252771820
Said my piece, leaving it at that. Just wish I could find out where my fellow Parody Thread peeps are. The urge to parody can be too much sometimes.
Damn, that was well said. nice one, I just went out with a dank meme ;P
By Nobunny Go To PostAfter reading some of the comments in the newly reopened GAF, it seems like a decent portion of folks still posting never understood what made that site special in the first place.
I love E3 leaks as much as anyone, but the sheer scope of the communities and quality posters lost in this thing is staggering. Pruning GAF down to just gaming misses the point of all the things it actually offered.
With that said, it's good to be here.
It's like they think the E3 leaks will still happen...
Hopefully thereāll be a main thread here directing people to ResetEra signup when it goes live... for those of use not in Discord.
As for GAF, surprised the place is still up with all of the retire threads showing up. I hope 8>4 Play makes the transition to Reset... I like those guys.
Whew Giant Bomb is going to be interesting this week š
As for GAF, surprised the place is still up with all of the retire threads showing up. I hope 8>4 Play makes the transition to Reset... I like those guys.
Whew Giant Bomb is going to be interesting this week š
By Hypron Go To PostCompletely unrelated but is your avatar from Wakfu?it absolutely is :)
EL's reaction to this whole thing just feels so laughably tone deaf.
Something comes out about him being a vile creep so he nukes Off-Topic and blames the stress of the current political and social climate. Eh?
I'm not big on public statements following this sort of stuff because I think even the ones that are worded well and sound sincere are often hollow and see through, but his wasn't even that good. Just a weird tone throughout, with a clear emphasis on deflection and self preservation.
Weird bloke.
Something comes out about him being a vile creep so he nukes Off-Topic and blames the stress of the current political and social climate. Eh?
I'm not big on public statements following this sort of stuff because I think even the ones that are worded well and sound sincere are often hollow and see through, but his wasn't even that good. Just a weird tone throughout, with a clear emphasis on deflection and self preservation.
Weird bloke.
By Eorl Go To Posthttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252784306&postcount=3063Coupled with the comments of EviLore that no social or political topics are going to be allowed in the new Off-Topic, this makes it very clear what kind of people he wants to invite to the remade NeoGaf.
Holy shitā¦
Ugh, EviLore reminds me of Trump holding the LGBTQ sign now.
Fuck.
By Violet_0 Go To Postit absolutely is :)
Man I love that series š
Like, it ain't the worst thing in the world, and I know the mods aren't bothered, but the amount of people blatantly using this site as a transit lounge is a bit annoying.
By all means check out resetera when it opens but lamenting that you might be stuck here until you're verified or whatever is wack.
By all means check out resetera when it opens but lamenting that you might be stuck here until you're verified or whatever is wack.
By Eorl Go To PostObviously the implications of a rampant sexual predator owning the site and a mod who was arrested for child pornography don't help, but what I'm trying to state is that NeoGAF's descent into madness was helped in part by the echo chamber nature it turned into. Hell, my first account on GAF was banned because I stated that the Xbox One's initial digital library method and trading actually sounding interesting. I got banned for that.How would've the current implosion been avoided? That if GAF hadn't been so aggressive in their moderation, none of us would've given a shit that the owner is a serial sexual harasser so there wouldn't have been a mass exodus? Like what's the connection here.
It's an ugly sight watching the transformation of the site into people who are either too conservative or indifferent re: women's safety in real time. Now the suicide threads are getting littered with the people who are opting to stay heckling the OP:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453840
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453840
I'm going to miss the convenience of all the gaming news and good moderation. I really hope the replacements can get the insiders and great community. I was mostly a lurker, funnily enough after 7 years of membership I hit Member status right as everything crumbled.
By giririsss Go To PostI'm genuinely surprised halo-gaf didn't just come back to their thread here from when they were perma'd for 3 months.HaloGAF has fractured so many time I'm surprised it's still around to be honest.
By Midnight Lunch Go To PostI remember you. I mean I donāt remember anything about you but your name was familiar when I saw it, before I read your post.
It's nice to know I didn't go unnoticed for 10 years even though I was nowhere as active as I used to be.
By Bumhead Go To PostEL's reaction to this whole thing just feels so laughably tone deaf.
Something comes out about him being a vile creep so he nukes Off-Topic and blames the stress of the current political and social climate. Eh?
I'm not big on public statements following this sort of stuff because I think even the ones that are worded well and sound sincere are often hollow and see through, but his wasn't even that good. Just a weird tone throughout, with a clear emphasis on deflection and self preservation.
Weird bloke.
I donāt even understand what OT has to do with anything.
I think I'm happy chilling here and hopefully Resetera once it launches.
I don't think I was in any community though, unless treating the Reading thread like my own reading diary counts.
I don't think I was in any community though, unless treating the Reading thread like my own reading diary counts.
By giririsss Go To PostI'm genuinely surprised halo-gaf didn't just come back to their thread here from when they were perma'd for 3 months.A fair number of us did. There's a bit of debate in the community about where we're going.
I'm still awake.
Yes, Junior members, the people suiciding their accounts they've had for years are the "sheep," not you
Yes
No projection there
Yes, Junior members, the people suiciding their accounts they've had for years are the "sheep," not you
Yes
No projection there
Welcome to the world of how people justify awful sexual predation. "Real" Victims gotta fit some arbitrary checklist they made up. For these folks it's can't ever have had relations post incident with an offender.
By Midnight Lunch Go To PostI donāt even understand what OT has to do with anything.Someone pointed out, and it's probably true. The people most likely to be offended and pissed were the people that mainly frequented OT. That's where conversations on these and a multitude of other social issues were most likely to be.
By Eorl Go To Posthttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252784306&postcount=3063
Holy shitā¦
coitus
(she's bi)
By ashep Go To PostLike, it ain't the worst thing in the world, and I know the mods aren't bothered, but the amount of people blatantly using this site as a transit lounge is a bit annoying.I apologize if I gave the impression I'd be only here until resetera opens, but personally I like this forum, and plan to stay around, and I think a lot of the NeoGaf people coming here feel the same.
By all means check out resetera when it opens but lamenting that you might be stuck here until you're verified or whatever is wack.
It's a cozy, enjoyable community, with lots of nice people.
By Epcott Go To PostHopefully thereāll be a main thread here directing people to ResetEra signup when it goes liveā¦ for those of use not in Discord.Ehhh, don't really think there's a point to that. Communities will stabilise where they need to. If you like Slaent stay here, if not then wait on ResetEra. No real need to ask one forum to direct to the other.
By SpudBud Go To PostHaloGAF has fractured so many time I'm surprised it's still around to be honest.
It's nice to know I didn't go unnoticed for 10 years even though I was nowhere as active as I used to be.
Halo 3 was what got me into GAF, took a good year or so for my account to be approved though. Havenāt visited Halo Gaf in a long time though. I remember you, Shake Appeal, DopeyFish, Ghaleon, bakedpidgeon, TJ someone. Some kid named Dax01 who touched Bungieās door????
By Eorl Go To Posthttp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=252784306&postcount=3063Is he saying what I think he is saying?
Holy shitā¦
By Not Go To PostI'm still awake.Yeah, I saw that ridiculous post. So ironic.
Yes, Junior members, the people suiciding their accounts they've had for years are the "sheep," not you
Yes
No projection there
By markavacado Go To PostSeeing āSJWā being posted un-ironically on GAF hurts me deeply. Oh well, nothing there for me now.
Yup, I never had hope that GAFās return was ever going to return to form, I knew lots of people would put up with EL as long as they could talk about games, I just didnāt expect to see so many people to show their true hateful colors. This feeling I have right now is like when someone you care about becomes a drug addict, you can recognize the shell they are it but it pains you the hollow state they are now. I made a thread years ago that then I asked Cyan to delete about my sister who was kidnapped, and the people responded in a way I didnāt imagine could be possible from strangers on the internet. It melt my heart to read so much kindness and people were even willing to donate me money in good amounts without even getting to know me that well (I didnāt accept because I just wanted to vent, not āprofitā from my trauma) I have the feeling that if I made that post now people would attack me thinking it was a scam o calling my sister names. It really grosses me out the kind of post I am reading atm, to the point where at moments feel like crying because everything I loved about that place is already gone.
By Facism Go To Postcoitus
(she's bi)
Are people insinuating she was asking for it cus she's bi? Cus bi people are all promiscuous?
I sent a PM to FZZ. I don't really know him, but I remember always thinking he was a fun poster, so I invited him over to slaent. He was requesting the mods to allow some kind of way to connect to his communities but the thread got locked.
By Laboured Go To PostAre people insinuating she was asking for it cus she's bi? Cus bi people are all promiscuous?I dunno but I definitely got "she's mental because she's bi" or the reverse from the way lore used it and kept doing so.
By ashep Go To PostLike, it ain't the worst thing in the world, and I know the mods aren't bothered, but the amount of people blatantly using this site as a transit lounge is a bit annoying.
By all means check out resetera when it opens but lamenting that you might be stuck here until you're verified or whatever is wack.
At the end of the day, the best advertisement for our site, and what we stand for, is to do so even to our own potential detriment.
We believe slaent, the software, the communities, the mod attitude, and our general stance of treating people like adults, will reflect well upon people. And hope that they choose to stay because of it. We also try to come off as friendly... try.
We could ban other sites but they'd still exist. A lot of communities might never re-unite because of it. And that would suck for them. And as a community that got told to fuck off our selves, we know that frustration.
I can't say it doesn't hurt a little to be told we're purely a transit lounge when our mod team have been putting in some extremely long days with little sleep to stay on top of things. But hiding things and sweeping stuff under the rug tends to blow up in the long run, and isn't who we are.
By uncelestial Go To PostIt's an ugly sight watching the transformation of the site into people who are either too conservative or indifferent re: women's safety in real time. Now the suicide threads are getting littered with the people who are opting to stay heckling the OP:The irony of that one poster calling the suicide bans "sheep". The sheep are really the ones who stay in the flock. These are the docile posters that EL will have to cater to in order to keep that ad money flowing.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1453840
By Midnight Lunch Go To PostI donāt even understand what OT has to do with anything.
A lot of the criticisms of the forum that came from the fallout over this incident have centered around what the OT has turned into. EL probably read them and finally realized the truth of it.
The criticisms are valid. OT is not what it used to be. It was fun in the past with many characters and non-serious inconsequential drama. Iād take that any day over another Trump thread.
By Laboured Go To PostAre people insinuating she was asking for it cus she's bi? Cus bi people are all promiscuous?No, it's because Evilore kept mentioning that she was bi in parenthesis on his statement to the mods, like it was something important.
By BocoDragon Go To PostThe irony of that one poster calling the suicide bans "sheep". The sheep are really the ones who stay in the flock. These are the docile posters that EL will have to cater to in order to keep that ad money flowing.I know. smdh. Poster doesn't understand what "sheep" actually means.
By ElyrionX Go To PostA lot of the criticisms of the forum that came from the fallout over this incident have centered around what the OT has turned into. EL probably read them and finally realized the truth of it.Lore didn't do shit on his own fucking site so lol at his "criticisms". If you give a fuck about your shit put in some work instead of gallivanting around the states and europe assaulting women.
The criticisms are valid. OT is not what it used to be. It was fun in the past with many characters and non-serious inconsequential drama. Iād take that any day over another Trump thread.
By Miles Q Go To PostYeah. I'm not going to claim I knew or felt he wasn't legit. Dude had me convinced.
How fucked up does someone have to be to even think that shit up. Jesus Christ.
What did commidieu do?
By jem Go To PostA fair number of us did. There's a bit of debate in the community about where we're going.Welp, as always, we'd love to have you, and hope you enjoy your stay, however long it is.
By giririsss Go To PostI can't say it doesn't hurt a little to be told we're purely a transit lounge when our mod team have been putting in some extremely long days with little sleep to stay on top of things. But hiding things and sweeping stuff under the rug tends to blow up in the long run, and isn't who we are.If you guys need help, I'm happy to take some of the slack. :)
By ashep Go To PostLike, it ain't the worst thing in the world, and I know the mods aren't bothered, but the amount of people blatantly using this site as a transit lounge is a bit annoying.Also ashep, it has not gone unnoticed by the mods that a lot of our existing users have gone out of their way to welcome new people.
By all means check out resetera when it opens but lamenting that you might be stuck here until you're verified or whatever is wack.
Users that have absolutely no stake in the site, other than enjoying the communities that were already here. Not mods, not founders. Just regulars.
If the visitors didn't notice, we did, and genuinely appreciate it. (We also think that speaks volumes about the site, but we're biased).
By giririsss Go To PostI can't say it doesn't hurt a little to be told we're purely a transit lounge when our mod team have been putting in some extremely long days with little sleep to stay on top of things. But hiding things and sweeping stuff under the rug tends to blow up in the long run, and isn't who we are.I'm more a reader than a poster, but I really must say you guys have absolutely been fantastic.
You didn't need to allow people to come in here and open this thread,but you did.
It is so appreciated.
I feel bad for making you guys feel like that :/
You really don't deserve that. Sorry about that.
But if nothing else, I think a lot of people will stay here, because of feeling so welcomed.
Me included.
By ElyrionX Go To PostA lot of the criticisms of the forum that came from the fallout over this incident have centered around what the OT has turned into. EL probably read them and finally realized the truth of it.Pretty sure OT didn't make him write a statement calling a woman accusing him of aexual harassment "deeply disturbing" and involve a sex cult.
The criticisms are valid. OT is not what it used to be. It was fun in the past with many characters and non-serious inconsequential drama. Iād take that any day over another Trump thread.
Unless my wizard powers are finally kicking in.
I wasn't sure at first how long the transition to full GG Haven would take, but it looks like it's progressing pretty quickly.
Even many of the long time members who didn't suicide are getting visibly disillusioned already.
Even many of the long time members who didn't suicide are getting visibly disillusioned already.
By SuperEpicMan Go To PostThe whole situation is so fucking weird tbh. I know a common criticism of gaf was that it was an echo chamber, not allowing for unfavourable opinions and such. But realistically I don't give a shit, and I just want somewhere pleasant to talk about the things I enjoy. In the 7 or so years I have been a member, I'd never been banned. I have never in that time felt I have had to limit what I say, I just try to make my posts reflect who I am in person. Obviously I have always known they were quite strict in their moderation, and realistically it has given me reason to pause and consider what I am posting, but I think that is good thing.
I think where a lot of this came from was perhaps you wanted to say something that the users around you didn't like, there were some who would go at your throat and the mods would do nothing about it, and then if you retaliated in anyway, you'd get banned. And I don't mean like violently, but any kind of heated argument. Heck it didn't have to be heated so much as last long enough.
I can't think of any examples right now so I'll make up one. I have had plenty of time to see who Jontron is now, and it bums me out big time. But in the early days before I had gathered everything, I found myself trying to play the devil's advocate, and hopefully see what he was saying. I come from a family big on understanding. Despite being severely mistreated by many people growing up, idk, I try to see the good in people because the bad makes me upset. I don't think that's wrong. In the end, however, in Jontron's case, I tried to be thorough and what I found was depressing, so I've stopped watching his videos and so has a close friend of mine. Any good here just doesn't outweigh the bad.
The problem is in cases where, what if indeed Jontron had been misrepresented? I didn't know for sure. I think it's fair to take a slower approach before jumping into conclusions. The problem is any people I saw attempt that got dogpiled. I understand, I really do, that there were a ton of assholes who defended him just because they didn't care or whatever reason, but it just didn't seem like anyone who wanted to have a metered conversation could.
That said, that is my perception, and given how depressed those threads made me feel I stopped visiting.
This also happened for me with gamergate. I never got into it, but since I knew some people who told me about it, I investigated. Some parts seemed reasonable, and I think there were some reasonable people in it who were duped, but eventually I saw what it really represented and distanced myself from it. (The reasonable bits were are the cute bits about being about media responsibility; didn't know at the beginning that these were about false allegations and nothing to do with anything reasonable).
Again, just explaining the perception, because the moderation also helped me to become a better poster too.
By jesu Go To PostWhat did commidieu do?
He posted some racist shit. Like, 4chan level racism.
The vibe here is good. Progressive and protective of marginalized communities. You can be a bit more aggressive in your push back too which is nice. Seems to have the best parts of GAF including migrated users. I hope the community gets bigger with more gaffers finding their way here.
I never actually posted on NeoGAF, I pretty much just lurked there daily for gaming news, as well as checking the Anime and Comic community threads to keep up to date with any good stuff that was getting released. But even as someone who never posted there itās disappointing to see the end of a great community all because EviLore is a lying scum bag. Itās even more disappointing that it looks like itās going to turn into yet another video game alt-right dumpster fire board, I liked that GAF was super liberal and you didnāt have to worry about seeing that crap.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostLore didn't do shit on his own fucking site so lol at his "criticisms". If you give a fuck about your shit put in some work instead of gallivanting around the states and europe assaulting women.The dude permed me cause I talked shit in discord. Which I've been told repeatedly by mods is not against any rules because what happens off site has nothing to do with the site itself.
He just wants to feel important and lash out against the people who are mean to him without actually putting in any work.
I still can't believe he's blaming off topic for his own personal drama. Good to see some of the gloaters getting banned for enjoying the death of some of the communities.