Hey if anyone frequented Poligaf, would really appreciate a discord invite to the group. Don't think I'll get a chance to ask in the thread anymore.
By Xpike Go To Postmeanwhile still getting 503 errorsthere is a lot of attention right now from external sources data mining the site before anything is deleted. Logical server load issues. Plus he could just disable posting which has been done before for E3.
part of me thinks its an attempt to block people from giving out alternatives to communities
By TBM Go To PostHey if anyone frequented Poligaf, would really appreciate a discord invite to the group. Don't think I'll get a chance to ask in the thread anymore.
Ive been trying to get people to reach poligaf for a while now. Good folk. Smart. Lots went to discord.
By Karpalajoe Go To PostProbably. People often react the same way regarding women harassment, child molesters, pedophile etc. Welcome to the outside world of Neogaf.like.... chill lol
Can you swear to me you did not knew a single thing about Malka weird behavior around women ? Like right now, just between you and me ? That would be enough for me to belive you.
"swear to me"
who says this
By Karpalajoe Go To PostProbably. People often react the same way regarding women harassment, child molesters, pedophile etc. Welcome to the outside world of Neogaf.
Can you swear to me you did not knew a single thing about Malka weird behavior around women ? Like right now, just between you and me ? That would be enough for me to belive you.
dog what are you trying to prove?
By Karpalajoe Go To PostProbably. People often react the same way regarding women harassment, child molesters, pedophile etc. Welcome to the outside world of Neogaf.
Can you swear to me you did not knew a single thing about Malka weird behavior around women ? Like right now, just between you and me ? That would be enough for me to belive you.
I did not know about Malka´s behaviour.
By HasphatsAnts Go To Postdog what are you trying to prove?
That Neogaf moderation was actually correct I guess
By DY_nasty Go To Postlike…. chill lolBatman?
"swear to me"
who says this
By DY_nasty Go To Postlike…. chill lol
"swear to me"
who says this
Real people outside, you should try someday.
By FreezePeach Go To Postthere is a lot of attention right now from external sources data mining the site before anything is deleted. Logical server load issues. Plus he could just disable posting which has been done before for E3.Hopefully someone gets all the archive threads. There are some good ones in there.
By Xpike Go To Postmeanwhile still getting 503 errorsHe's well and truly fucked
part of me thinks its an attempt to block people from giving out alternatives to communities
It's been too long for a flat denial, the site can't function while this is going on, and taking the site offline is a poor look
There's nothing he or the admins can do at this point
By Karpalajoe Go To PostHe was very known in the community, don't act like he wasn't gaf most known figure. It's like using Steam from 2005 without knowing about Gabe Newell. Possible, but very unlikely.You mange to spend a lot of time accusing, but not a lot of time listening or comprehending the fucking realities people are telling you.
No, goddamnit. Normal people don't go Detective on people on the internet, searching for their names and learning more about them. With respect, I have next to ZERO interest in knowing more about, you, EvilLore, relio, or anyone else there or here IRL unless we've been friends for years (like my boy Angelus) and I don't expect anyone else to give a shit about me. I like it like that. I like keeping it like that. Most people like keeping it like that.
The real question is why the fuck is it so hard for your mind to grasp that the rest of us can use a platform without giving a shit about its owner? Fun fact: I've also never googled Mark Zuckerberg. Or whoever the fuck founded Reddit, though I know one of them married Serena Williams. I don't know who founded Twitter, nor do I care. I just want to use platforms that are good, that contain good people, good community and good discussions. That's it. Oh and I've been using Steam since 2007 and have never googled Gabe Newell. Because I don't use Steam for Gabe Newell, you monkey.
By HasphatsAnts Go To Postdog what are you trying to prove?
I'm just asking him something and as far as I know, you were not the one I asked.
I used to IRC with tons of the old GAF mods prior to everything migrating over to NeoGAF including Tyler. Back then he just talked about anime fansubs and tuning his Mazda 626 when he lived in his grandparents' basement. I never took his international man of mystery shit serious since he was such a goob when I knew him. I'd forgotten about the ass grab thing in 2012 honestly, and in the time between them and now, I have way less tolerance for that shit.
He is an asshole, end of story.
He is an asshole, end of story.
Most folks couldn't have known about dude's behavior without being associated with folks willing to tell 'em or sites off gaf. This is a dumb tangent. The issues came when his past behavior was off limits when he showed no signs of contrition for fucking up. At that point it was just abetting a sketch dude who was meeting folks through gaf or its industry presence.
By Karpalajoe Go To PostReal people outside, you should try someday.
By DY_nasty Go To Postlike…. chill lolThere was another Pelican season ticket holder yelling at me on twitter last night to buy the rest of his season tickets to prove that I believe the Pels aren't as bad as the Suns.
"swear to me"
who says this
By Karpalajoe Go To PostProbably. People often react the same way regarding women harassment, child molesters, pedophile etc. Welcome to the outside world of Neogaf.
Can you swear to me you did not knew a single thing about Malka weird behavior around women ? Like right now, just between you and me ? That would be enough for me to belive you.
By Karpalajoe Go To PostReal people outside, you should try someday.dude, you need to chill
By DY_nasty Go To Postlike…. chill lol
"swear to me"
who says this
Obviously, our man thinks he's Batman.
By Karpalajoe Go To PostReal people outside, you should try someday.Stop.
By Vlatko Go To PostI think one of the things GAF did right for such a large forum was exclusivity and strict moderation. Made people value their accounts and not just be assholes. Once they opened the gates to registration and moderators abused their power it went downhill, but there was period (years ago) where the whole forum was pleasant to read and not just the individual communities.
Slaent is small enough where people can just call out individuals without needing to really moderate but it will be difficult to keep that up the more trouble makers there are.
Strict moderation meant a large group of valuable members would stick around, but NeoGAF started having way too many poorly thought out member culls these past couple of years or so. Way too many casualties being swept away by very wide brooms, disguised as "no-nonsense moderating".
In case people are shocked at the modless/wild west fuckery going on there now, this is why.
This quick and ruthless membership backlash is the least shocking thing about the whole situation lol
By s y Go To Postbest gif. ah the memories
By PurpleMug Go To PostStrict moderation meant a large group of valuable members would stick around, but NeoGAF started having way too many poorly thought out member culls these past couple of years or so. Way too many casualties being swept away by very wide brooms, disguised as "no-nonsense moderating".I can personally attest to an absolute batshit Evilore banning dozens of people just a few weeks ago and covering up by deleting posts about it. Thread eventually turned into longtime users saying 'just permaban me i dont want to be here anymore' and then getting banned and deleted. Rare thing cause it was cleaned up, i think some posts are still there though, wish i had the thread. And it was Lore personally doing it. It was then i knew something was very wrong. But again, like only 3-4 weeks ago.
In case people are shocked at the modless/wild west fuckery going on there now, this is why.
This quick and ruthless membership backlash is the least shocking thing about the whole situation lol
By TBM Go To PostHey if anyone frequented Poligaf, would really appreciate a discord invite to the group. Don't think I'll get a chance to ask in the thread anymore.
Yeah I'm gonna go through withdrawals
i kinda expect "gaf" to be back after all this, but yeah it probably won't really be what it was at all unfortunately. as ned_ballad said, new mods, presumably under new administration, and most importantly, most regular members (and devs, insiders, and such) are probably out for good. damn, it's a real shame.
By Apollo Go To PostI mean... I don't think the GAF community would disagree? In fact I saw a number of users calling EL just that when this all started. Comes off like he's calling GAF hypocrites for calling out him but not EL while they are in fact calling out EL and burning the site down on their way out lol.
By DY_nasty Go To PostNah, you need to be inside researching everything about Evilore.
By Recon_zero Go To PostDiscord is too chaotic and hard to readIt's good to get spur-of-the-moment things organized and get a quick answer from a specific person quickly.
Old man yells at cloud I know
Holy shit...
I'll be so upset if GAF dies to this.
GAF is one of the only sites where I thought there were people like me.
I would be on it all day...
Where we goin? Here?
I guess I'll looking for a new spot.
I'll be so upset if GAF dies to this.
GAF is one of the only sites where I thought there were people like me.
I would be on it all day...
Where we goin? Here?
I guess I'll looking for a new spot.
By Zack with a K Go To PostI used to IRC with tons of the old GAF mods prior to everything migrating over to NeoGAF including Tyler. Back then he just talked about anime fansubs and tuning his Mazda 626 when he lived in his grandparents' basement. I never took his international man of mystery shit serious since he was such a goob when I knew him. I'd forgotten about the ass grab thing in 2012 honestly, and in the time between them and now, I have way less tolerance for that shit.How are the other moderators you knew? Were they good people or also did questionable shit as well?
He is an asshole, end of story.
By reilo Go To PostOkay, images should be back up. That was dumb.
So that was up. LOL
By Slick Butter Go To Posti kinda expect "gaf" to be back after all this, but yeah it probably won't really be what it was at all unfortunately. as ned_ballad said, new mods, presumably under new administration, and most importantly, most regular members (and devs, insiders, and such) are probably out for good. damn, it's a real shame.If VICE News and other major (as far as gamers are concerned) sites pick up on the story and roll with it, the only way GAF survives as a site is if EvilLore steps down. The time for apologies passed when he used that window of opportunity to lock threads and mass-ban posters.
Best thing he can do for the community of GAF is to sell to someone or some company that is reputable and to do it ASAP. That's it.
By francokid10 Go To PostHoly shit…
I'll be so upset if GAF dies to this.
GAF is one of the only sites where I thought there were people like me.
I would be on it all day…
Where we goin? Here?
I guess I'll looking for a new spot.
You good here fam.
Neogaf occupies a strange psychological space. On the one had it appears many individuals agreed with and had likeminded principles and felt it a safe space. However in doing so they were quick to shutdown and to advocate the shutdown of opposing views. This created a vacuum where the veil of freedom of discussion was present but only the freedom of discussion which the moderators choose. The irony of course being that that limiting of ideas is facism 101. I know the end result was to limit abhorrent ideas and create a safe space but in the it created and environment where even when people knew something was right and people were unfairly punished for it others were afraid to speak out for fear of similar punishment. How easy it is for us to slip into the same state which drove the Nazis to power when you have the far left and fair right both shutting down news which information which doesn’t display them in the best light while advocating that the other side is the real enemy and they attempt to appear blameless in the communication media they control.
By FreezePeach Go To Postbest gif. ah the memoriesAnd it was a thread in which he wanted to cultivate a narrative about how just straight up believing a single woman has led and would lead to witch hunts. Users called out this faux objective stance in the wake of the ubiquity of sexual assault and harassment in multiple industries. Those users were permed. Other users asking what the fuck about said perms, permed. Other users calling out the ruthless perms, permed as well. No self-serving agenda there or anything.
I can personally attest to an absolute batshit Evilore banning dozens of people just a few weeks ago and covering up by deleting posts about it. Thread eventually turned into longtime users saying 'just permaban me i dont want to be here anymore' and then getting banned and deleted. Rare thing cause it was cleaned up, i think some posts are still there though, wish i had the thread. And it was Lore personally doing it. It was then i knew something was very wrong. But again, like only 3-4 weeks ago.
By Recon_zero Go To PostDiscord is too chaotic and hard to readCan I get a link?
Old man yells at cloud I know
By TheMikado Go To PostNeogaf occupies a strange psychological space. On the one had it appears many individuals agreed with and had likeminded principles and felt it a safe space. However in doing so they were quick to shutdown and to advocate the shutdown of opposing views. This created a vacuum where the veil of freedom of discussion was present but only the freedom of discussion which the moderators choose. The irony of course being that that limiting of ideas is facism 101. I know the end result was to limit abhorrent ideas and create a safe space but in the it created and environment where even when people knew something was right and people were unfairly punished for it others were afraid to speak out for fear of similar punishment. How easy it is for us to slip into the same state which drove the Nazis to power when you have the far left and fair right both shutting down news which information which doesn’t display them in the best light while advocating that the other side is the real enemy and they attempt to appear blameless in the communication media they control.First they came for NBA-GAF, and I said nothing
By ThisIsMyDogKyle Go To PostI mean… I don't think the GAF community would disagree? In fact I saw a number of users calling EL just that when this all started. Comes off like he's calling GAF hypocrites for calling out him but not EL while they are in fact calling out EL and burning the site down on their way out lol.i think it's partly the way its worded, as if other "milkshake ducks" aren't as bad, or something
i noticed something was starting to go down earlier today when i was following the new posts in the milkshake duck thread, then posts about evilore, then it got locked...
que lastima
By Dreams-Visions Go To PostIf VICE News and other major (as far as gamers are concerned) sites pick up on the story and roll with it, the only way GAF survives as a site is if EvilLore steps down. The time for apologies passed when he used that window of opportunity to lock threads and mass-ban posters.Whose going to buy the site after this ordeal? The brand is taking a big hit.
Best thing he can do for the community of GAF is to sell to someone or some company that is reputable and to do it ASAP. That's it.
By Recon_zero Go To PostDiscord is too chaotic and hard to readI'm having the same issue. I don't really follow the structure of Discord. I'm trying, though.
Old man yells at cloud I know
By ned_ballad Go To PostWhose going to buy the site after this ordeal? The brand is taking a big hit.Oh I don't know, fam. I just think that's what would have to happen. The communities were generally good, and some of the best I've ever been part of. You just need to cut out the cancer and people will likely just go about their business as normal. Replace the ownership and bring in new mods and improved moderation policies and it'd recover to some degree.
got back from being out since the break of dawn and just now catching up on the past 18 hours... wow...
By Dreams-Visions Go To PostYou mange to spend a lot of time accusing, but not a lot of time listening or comprehending the fucking realities people are telling you.
No, goddamnit. Normal people don't go Detective on people on the internet, searching for their names and learning more about them. With respect, I have next to ZERO interest in knowing more about, you, EvilLore, relio, or anyone else there or here IRL unless we've been friends for years (like my boy Angelus) and I don't expect anyone else to give a shit about me. I like it like that. I like keeping it like that. Most people like keeping it like that.
The real question is why the fuck is it so hard for your mind to grasp that the rest of us can use a platform without giving a shit about its owner? Fun fact: I've also never googled Mark Zuckerberg. Or whoever the fuck founded Reddit, though I know one of them married Serena Williams. I don't know who founded Twitter, nor do I care. I just want to use platforms that are good, that contain good people, good community and good discussions. That's it. Oh and I've been using Steam since 2007 and have never googled Gabe Newell. Because I don't use Steam for Gabe Newell, you monkey.
You're insulting me now ? Calling me a monkey, just because I have doubt you did not know about Malka ? Well, you seem to jump the gun pretty fast. Don't say things online you wouldn't dare to say face to face, you never know and it can be dangerous.
Here's a another advice you could use in your life : always be aware of the owner of a service, especially when you just have to google his name (whoooohou detective level shit here, I'm a real stalker). The money, the "power" Malka believe he had, the power that some people believe allowed to behave like that, were there in his hands, thank to people like you, using his platform and playing the blind game regarding his behavior or being too superior to being interested at who you give your money and informations to. If anything you played a litle role in it, which is kind of ironic.
Oh, and Zuckerberg is also some kind of a dick, you should not use Facebook (and giving money in the process) either because of privacy and stuff you're probably too superior to care about.
By Karpalajoe Go To PostYou're insulting me now ? Calling me a monkey, just because I have doubt you did not know about Malka ? Well, you seem to jump the gun pretty fast. Don't say things online you wouldn't dare to say face to face, you never know and it can be dangerous.who runs this site
Here's a another advice you could use in your life : always be aware of the owner of a service, especially when you just have to google his name (whoooohou detective level shit here, I'm a real stalker). The money, the "power" Malka believe he had, the power that some people believe allowed to behave like that, were there in his hands, thank to people like you, using his platform and playing the blind game regarding his behavior or being too superior to being interested at who you give your money and informations to. If anything you played a litle role in it, which is kind of ironic.
Oh, and Zuckerberg is also some kind of a dick, you should not use Facebook (and giving money in the process) either because of privacy and stuff you're probably too superior to care about.
why does it exist
By ned_ballad Go To PostWhose going to buy the site after this ordeal? The brand is taking a big hit.
In hindsight, Evilore passing on the $10 million offer for his website was just downright terrible of a decision.
By TBM Go To PostHey if anyone frequented Poligaf, would really appreciate a discord invite to the group. Don't think I'll get a chance to ask in the thread anymore.
I also would like to know.
Best place for news and civil political discourse...most of the time.