if evillore cared about gaf at all he wouldve inmediately resigned and given the site to someone else
but what he cares about is having power over nerds, hence denying everything, victim blaming, and then reshaping gaf again into one that won't bite back
but what he cares about is having power over nerds, hence denying everything, victim blaming, and then reshaping gaf again into one that won't bite back
By Fliesen Go To Postwell, Klepek's article says that was EL's shitty response and the mods weren't really allowed to comment further - even if this wasn't the truth. I'm quite sure that some of them regret not stepping down sooner.Good luck with sites where folks care more about their status as a mod than doing the right thing.
His comments show a complete detachment from reality, contempt for women, and astonishing ego and sense of entitlement.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
By Jencks Go To Postyou have to say you read the rules in #readI did. Nothin'
Everything happened so fast. I remember checking in a few times during the weekend to see that the site was down for "maintenance". It didn't seem out of the ordinary since the site has done that from time to time. But after searching news regarding the site, I can't believe I missed the entire controversy as it went down. I appreciate that the mods and admins did not attempt to defend Evilore and instead made the right decision to leave en masse. The GAF brand is inherently damaged and I am not sure if it can recover even under new management.
I heard something about a GAF Discord community but I am not sure how to get into it so I came here to find information from other former Gaffers. Overall, GAF was not perfect but it was the best forum I have ever encountered and offered a community where critical thinking and logic prevailed over memes and trolling. Gaming brings about much toxicity online so it was great to see a community that focused on removing it, even if it consequently brought about the "echo chamber" label. The GAF community is incredible, despite the reprehensible site owner, and should be preserved elsewhere. If any former members have any information about regaining this community, please PM me.
Until then, I am excited to see what slaent has to offer that can possibly fill the void left by the destruction of GAF.
I heard something about a GAF Discord community but I am not sure how to get into it so I came here to find information from other former Gaffers. Overall, GAF was not perfect but it was the best forum I have ever encountered and offered a community where critical thinking and logic prevailed over memes and trolling. Gaming brings about much toxicity online so it was great to see a community that focused on removing it, even if it consequently brought about the "echo chamber" label. The GAF community is incredible, despite the reprehensible site owner, and should be preserved elsewhere. If any former members have any information about regaining this community, please PM me.
Until then, I am excited to see what slaent has to offer that can possibly fill the void left by the destruction of GAF.
Peeps talking about mods:
This isn't Tyler's first foray. Any attempts to make posts or threads about it where delete and people banned.
Mods didn't due much after the amyrox incident. Guy literally said in the article
They probably left because they expect it to blow up after this.
This isn't Tyler's first foray. Any attempts to make posts or threads about it where delete and people banned.
Mods didn't due much after the amyrox incident. Guy literally said in the article
"I very nearly resigned back then," said the moderator. "I think many of us did. I still am not sure why I didn't. I guess it's because GAF itself is still very important to me, even now."
They probably left because they expect it to blow up after this.
Both the girl and Evillore sound like they have issues. I don't know who to Believe and I don't know what really went down between them. But I do believe however that she knew what she was doing with the #metoo post in Facebook. Maybe she's exaggerating, but that's no the point. Evillore did have consensual sex with her late reply one after the assault. That to me says that she has issues. I'm not saying Evillore is,not a piece of shit. Just that that girl isn't as innocent as she really claims to be. Also that interview by Tyler is ruthless, but it was the only way to confront the isssue. No one was gonna believe him anyway, and there is enough evidence spread by the mods who grew tired of coverings his history. The SJW community that he encouraged to go on witch hunts and to believe women 100% of the time (which is fucking nuts) went on to be his downfall. You reap what you sow. I'm actually happy Gaf will be back without all the politic shit, gender representation shit topics on the gaming forums. There was always some crazy sjw looking for stuff in games to be outraged.
By Kabro Go To PostI can't see working professionals in the gaming biz wanting to post theire again.
Neither can I.
By DY_nasty Go To Posti wish reilo would tell me not to say anything about him being a lame lmaoNobody takes what you say seriously anyhow.
Lore's idiocy and awfulness reached it's zenith but before that? Just keep on looking the other way. So endemic of a larger problem we got when it comes to this.
By TheRealPulga Go To Postshit post.who even are you
I will bat for EL just a little bit in the relationship area, not for the forum shit. Regarding the relationship and the assult accusation. All he had to do was keep yelling "fake news" and let people vend it in a thread. The fact he did do it shows me that he really thought he wasn't in the wrong. Also mods quitting en mass really shook him.
I am not going back though, all the dirt airing reminds me he was responsible to my own excessive bannings. So me and rest of the GAF jump on to the chance to say fuck him.
I am not going back though, all the dirt airing reminds me he was responsible to my own excessive bannings. So me and rest of the GAF jump on to the chance to say fuck him.
By TheRealPulga Go To PostBoth the girl and Evillore sound like they have issues. I don't know who to Believe and I don't know what really went down between them. But I do believe however that she knew what she was doing with the #metoo post in Facebook. Maybe she's exaggerating, but that's no the point. Evillore did have consensual sex with her late reply one after the assault. That to me says that she has issues. I'm not saying Evillore is,not a piece of shit. Just that that girl isn't as innocent as she really claims to be. Also that interview by Tyler is ruthless, but it was the only way to confront the isssue. No one was gonna believe him anyway, and there is enough evidence spread by the mods who grew tired of coverings his history. The SJW community that he encouraged to go on witch hunts and to believe women 100% of the time (which is fucking nuts) went on to be his downfall. You reap what you sow. I'm actually happy Gaf will be back without all the politic shit, gender representation shit topics on the gaming forums. There was always some crazy sjw looking for stuff in games to be outraged."naw she crazy fam"
i believe him
By Yharnam Go To PostIt's real, but if I remember correctly it was at some big event where you could pay for a quick photo op or something.lmao
By Random Ass Username Go To PostGood luck with sites where folks care more about their status as a mod than doing the right thing.
I could've done the 'right thing' account suiciding when EL was on a banning spree, banning people like G.O.B, BronsonLee, Inferno etc. in the ScreenJunkies AndySignore thread. I didn't, because i valued GAF over the person that ran GAF. I mean, i did take GAF off my adblocker's whitelist that day ... i'm still a revolutionary at heart.
By TheRealPulga Go To PostEvillore did have consensual sex with her late reply one after the assault. That to me says that she has issues. I'm not saying Evillore is,not a piece of shit. Just that that girl isn't as innocent as she really claims to be.
Bruh, really?
By TheRealPulga Go To PostI'm actually happy Gaf will be back without all the politic shit, gender representation shit topics on the gaming forums. There was always some crazy sjw looking for stuff in games to be outraged.
Oh, I see. Yeah, enjoy.
By TheRealPulga Go To PostBoth the girl and Evillore sound like they have issues. I don't know who to Believe and I don't know what really went down between them. But I do believe however that she knew what she was doing with the #metoo post in Facebook. Maybe she's exaggerating, but that's no the point. Evillore did have consensual sex with her late reply one after the assault. That to me says that she has issues. I'm not saying Evillore is,not a piece of shit. Just that that girl isn't as innocent as she really claims to be. Also that interview by Tyler is ruthless, but it was the only way to confront the isssue. No one was gonna believe him anyway, and there is enough evidence spread by the mods who grew tired of coverings his history. The SJW community that he encouraged to go on witch hunts and to believe women 100% of the time (which is fucking nuts) went on to be his downfall. You reap what you sow. I'm actually happy Gaf will be back without all the politic shit, gender representation shit topics on the gaming forums. There was always some crazy sjw looking for stuff in games to be outraged.What was her name? The one who hurt you.
By DY_nasty Go To Post"naw she crazy fam"It's a troll account m8. Just ban it.
i believe him
By TheRealPulga Go To PostThe SJW community that he encouraged to go on witch hunts and to believe women 100% of the time (which is fucking nuts) went on to be his downfall. You reap what you sow. I'm actually happy Gaf will be back without all the politic shit, gender representation shit topics on the gaming forums. There was always some crazy sjw looking for stuff in games to be outraged.barf.
yeah they're on the way out now
By OneTwoTee Go To PostIt's a troll account m8. Just ban it.
By Megatherium Go To PostWhat was her name? The one who hurt you.
she probably didn't even know she "hurt" him, lol
There must be a way to prevent SJW being typed, perhaps it should automatically change to I am a cunt.
By Rezbit Go To PostHeeeey so most people probably wouldn't recognise me, I posted mostly in AusGAF and gaming threads. Sucks that such a useful news resource is burned to the ground. Looking for a decent alternative, I hope both here and ResetEra can fill that. Especially with dank sales statistics.Welcome.
We got a topic with some former AusGAF members, so feel free to check it out :
http://slaent.com/thread/1244022/
By TheRealPulga Go To PostBoth the girl and Evillore sound like they have issues. I don't know who to Believe and I don't know what really went down between them. But I do believe however that she knew what she was doing with the #metoo post in Facebook. Maybe she's exaggerating, but that's no the point. Evillore did have consensual sex with her late reply one after the assault. That to me says that she has issues. I'm not saying Evillore is,not a piece of shit. Just that that girl isn't as innocent as she really claims to be. Also that interview by Tyler is ruthless, but it was the only way to confront the isssue. No one was gonna believe him anyway, and there is enough evidence spread by the mods who grew tired of coverings his history. The SJW community that he encouraged to go on witch hunts and to believe women 100% of the time (which is fucking nuts) went on to be his downfall. You reap what you sow. I'm actually happy Gaf will be back without all the politic shit, gender representation shit topics on the gaming forums. There was always some crazy sjw looking for stuff in games to be outraged.I hope this is a bad troll.
By PJV3 Go To PostThere must be a way to prevent SJW being typed, perhaps it should automatically change to I am a cunt.
you have my cunt
By TheRealPulga Go To PostBoth the girl and Evillore sound like they have issues. I don't know who to Believe and I don't know what really went down between them. But I do believe however that she knew what she was doing with the #metoo post in Facebook. Maybe she's exaggerating, but that's no the point. Evillore did have consensual sex with her late reply one after the assault. That to me says that she has issues. I'm not saying Evillore is,not a piece of shit. Just that that girl isn't as innocent as she really claims to be. Also that interview by Tyler is ruthless, but it was the only way to confront the isssue. No one was gonna believe him anyway, and there is enough evidence spread by the mods who grew tired of coverings his history. The SJW community that he encouraged to go on witch hunts and to believe women 100% of the time (which is fucking nuts) went on to be his downfall. You reap what you sow. I'm actually happy Gaf will be back without all the politic shit, gender representation shit topics on the gaming forums. There was always some crazy sjw looking for stuff in games to be outraged.
Literally the only thing I agree with in this massive paragraph is that Evilore is a dick
I’m excited for GAF to come back so I can see how many people burn their accounts talking shit about EL.
By Moris Go To PostLMAO
By Fliesen Go To Posti have way less beef with the style of moderation on GAF as some others have, and with EL gone, i would hope(!) it might become a bit less … arbitrary. Meanwhile, there's quite a few people that have 'endorsed' ResetERA, so i would ASSUME that'd be the place to get what made GAF the most unique among discussion forums and made the sword-of-damocles style moderation bearable.I loved the moderation on GAF for the last 8+ years. They would tolerate most anything as long as it was cogently written, and not a thinly veiled cover for misogyny/racism/bigotry. After trump though, OT went completely insane. You get banned for dissenting in threads, or even asking people to act rationally. Conversely, if you agreed with the progressive opinion, you could break TOS left and right with incredibly offensive, barely cogent posts that brought nothing to the discussion.
I mean, I get how all that was going on was super hard to moderate, but it definitely stopped being the place that I saw as being devoid of thoughtless assholes with no interest other than debasing others and stoking their own ego. Instead, it became that, but in a self righteous sort of way.
I love harsh moderation, but I hate moderation of dissent. How do conversations even happen when people mostly agree on everything?
By Pastry Go To PostI’m excited for GAF to come back so I can see how many people burn their accounts talking shit about EL.
Just make sure you turn adblock on for GAF.
By sunshine and gasoline Go To PostIs resetera discord still closed on invites?
still closed I believe, I think there are gg communities trying to infiltrate
Reading that waypoint article just reveals how just outright stupid Evilore is. IDK how the hell he thinks hes just going to get away with this by removing OT and still remaining at the helm with no mods. Like seriously there will be MORE chaos when the site comes back up then there was when it went down. I already said this on Twitter but Gaf had a lot of problems but its a shame there wasn't ever a better version of it with more respectable people at the helm. A single fucked up individual shouldn't be the demise of a massive community like Gaf and while I see a lot of people here or hoping for this Reset Era (wtf is with that name?) to become the new gaf I don't know that it can really be replaced. Evilore just doesn't seem to have a damn clue of what hes doing even after the site was imploding, like how many threads did I see in OT about people who got caught doing fucked up shit doing with it horribly and hes doing it even worse then that?
Christ man just sell or give the site away to someone that can actually run the damn thing or just close it forever, he is not a fucking leader hes just been coasting off its success without him ever really doing anything but hurting the site time and again. It's sad because I think that there was something special about Gaf even with a lot of bullshit it did have something unique but I just don't know it can be repeated again. I hope it can but I think people are weary for a reason and no other forum designed itself to encompass so many different communities as well as Gaf did while also not fragmenting any community either, nor do I know any other site that was as highly moderated as gaf was (for ill at times to be sure but mostly for good). It's a shame that all of this happened so quickly and how the site just basically died in a single day so no one was really ready for it but hell what can you do.
I just hope someone does get a gaf successor off the ground, I was really looking forward to various topics over the next few months and its just sad to see that no matter what happens its unlikely anything will be as successful as gaf was in its prime.
Also I guess I should have started with this but hi Slaent and Gaf people, another Gaf refugee here just wanted to post some extended comments on this whole thing. No idea yet if I'm sticking around or not but as with everything else right now, we'll just have to see how it goes.
Christ man just sell or give the site away to someone that can actually run the damn thing or just close it forever, he is not a fucking leader hes just been coasting off its success without him ever really doing anything but hurting the site time and again. It's sad because I think that there was something special about Gaf even with a lot of bullshit it did have something unique but I just don't know it can be repeated again. I hope it can but I think people are weary for a reason and no other forum designed itself to encompass so many different communities as well as Gaf did while also not fragmenting any community either, nor do I know any other site that was as highly moderated as gaf was (for ill at times to be sure but mostly for good). It's a shame that all of this happened so quickly and how the site just basically died in a single day so no one was really ready for it but hell what can you do.
I just hope someone does get a gaf successor off the ground, I was really looking forward to various topics over the next few months and its just sad to see that no matter what happens its unlikely anything will be as successful as gaf was in its prime.
Also I guess I should have started with this but hi Slaent and Gaf people, another Gaf refugee here just wanted to post some extended comments on this whole thing. No idea yet if I'm sticking around or not but as with everything else right now, we'll just have to see how it goes.
By Fliesen Go To PostI could've done the 'right thing' account suiciding when EL was on a banning spree, banning people like G.O.B, BronsonLee, Inferno etc. in the ScreenJunkies AndySignore thread. I didn't, because i valued GAF over the person that ran GAF. I mean, i did take GAF off my adblocker's whitelist that day … i'm still a revolutionary at heart.Unpaid clean up of evidence of the fact that a former mod on a site was a certified pedophile, a forum with minors no less, and just going along to get along is something else. High hopes for forums where they reside. There's no real defense here.
By Pastry Go To PostI’m excited for GAF to come back so I can see how many people burn their accounts talking shit about EL.
EviLore, retire bitch
By Pastry Go To PostI’m excited for GAF to come back so I can see how many people burn their accounts talking shit about EL.The account suicides will be legendary.
Hopefully people will screenshot them for posterity and cross post-em on Resetera.
going back to salvage some info from the japan travel OT, indie games thread, art self-study, if those are still around, get banned, take a look on who decided to step up as the new mods for a laugh, then hang back and see how this place and ecetEra develop
By OneTwoTee Go To PostIt's a troll account m8. Just ban it.I’m not on the bandwagon with this one, this isn’t Neogaf but these kinds of people and viewpoints will be the ones to inherit Neogaf. The Neogaf you knew is dead and gone. Actually looks like it never was.
By DY_nasty Go To Post"naw she crazy fam"
i believe him
you aint wrong at all on him going straight to mental health being a bad look--and it's exactly the type of language I'd have expected from him, but shit, I find it funny people are like " how dare he throw that out there!" when, true or false, it's an accusation that can ruin lives lol. Doesn't phaze me (no pun intended) at all to see him snap back like that
I'll watch how ResetERA gets off the ground before considering going to it. Also, I don't really have any interest in using a paid email to get on a forum when this one is quite nice. *shrug*
By reilo Go To PostAs mentioned before, none of us running SLAENT care where you post on the internet. You are all free to post here and become members of an inclusive community. If you choose to go back to GAF after reading that article, well, that’s your prerogative but that response was eye opening in ways even I didn’t think would get to.I will just say this:
I'm lagging behind posts because there's a lot happening way too fast here and literally everywhere regarding this situation. But I just wanna say that whoever goes back to NeoGAF, you are part of the problem. Talka doesn't deserve an audience. GAF is dead. Bury it. And I don't mean that as a simple BvS meme, I mean with disgust. Ugh.