By Not Go To PostI'm still not getting access to anything on the Discord besides #read
Would be interesting to know what's going on
you have to say you read the rules in #read
By Fliesen Go To PostThe additional info on how even the mods thought the whole amir0x issue was mishandled, yet they weren't permitted to further comment on it sounds very plausible, and hopefully holds true.They could have taken a stand. Posted. Left. At some point they just let shit fly too.
By Wallach Go To PostHow is that site going to come back online. I don't even get it. Who is willingly going to sign up to be a moderator for that place with him still being around?
If it is just gaming he will be able to pull it off, a lot of gamers are pretty single minded.
By DY_nasty Go To Posthow this was handled kinda jams up most of that though. if it was remotely as simple as he said she said under odd circumstances, then they wouldn't still be typing a statement and an entire mod team wouldn't have dissolved in a dayIndeed. Folks gonna overlook it to get back home tho..
I really hope that people don't flock back to gaf, for all that's good in the world - there's other sites out there (like here) that can be improved over time and get way better.
Don't give that shitstain a fucking inch.
Don't give that shitstain a fucking inch.
He gaslights, changes his story, "shifts Neogaf away" from OT, vows to stay at the helm, and never once mentions having values that counter sexism and abuse. Makes it very easy to never go back there.
Excellent work as usual by Klepek.
I just threw the gauntlet down at OpenCritic with this, the first-ever OT post!
http://forums.opencritic.com/topic/46/greetings-off-topic
Excellent work as usual by Klepek.
I just threw the gauntlet down at OpenCritic with this, the first-ever OT post!
http://forums.opencritic.com/topic/46/greetings-off-topic
I know you guys hate the mods, but I respect them for not putting up with his shit and collectively bailing the way they did.
Holy shit, not a good look!
Wow... gaf really is done for, huh? Even if it does come back, there's no way it could be the same after this. And axing off-topic... damn.
Wow... gaf really is done for, huh? Even if it does come back, there's no way it could be the same after this. And axing off-topic... damn.
By G Shumy Go To PostIndeed. Folks gonna overlook it to get back home tho..
By DY_nasty Go To Posthow this was handled kinda jams up most of that though. if it was remotely as simple as he said she said under odd circumstances, then they wouldn't still be typing a statement and an entire mod team wouldn't have dissolved in a day
I think a lot of that is Malka being like....what's the best way to move forward here. Should I sell the site? Restructure? There's enough of a fuckstorm that went down that its going to take time to sort things out, even if it was just from the webdev side of altering things. I doubt the statement is what's holding everything up, just making the changes to the site or (seems like its not going to happen) signing the ink to sell the site.
The entire mod team desolving is not surprising at all given internet environment right now. It's too toxic a thing to bother being associated with in this era of doxxing and shit. Like...no mod position is worth getting your name highlighted on either side of gamergate vs the world.
By John Rabbit Go To PostY'all are crazy if you don't think a significant portion of the GAF userbase harbored some real shitty ideas about inclusivity and diversity in games., or that a new "focus on gaming" isn't going to invite even more mouth-breathers.
We had that here yesterday in this thread. You didnt catch that lol?
…misanthropy and opportunism… ridiculous and baseless… harmonious and consentual…He typed, using the longest, smartest-looking words he could conjure--redundancy be damned--without making it look like he was trying too hard, tears rolling down his elfen features, now supple and brazen; sodden and saline; privileged and faultless
By Gaz Go To PostShould've tried doing that in lets say for example, a thread on FemFreq / Anita Sarkisian and see how long it takes to get banned, even with a totally rational and none shit-posty opinion. In my experience, if you went against the grain on anything you risked being banned on GAF.
You ain't Gaz mothafucka
By phqphq Go To PostOT can have its own problems but evilore basically throwing OT under the bus for his own bullshit is what I was criticizing with that memeIt's cool I got it don't worry
By Moris Go To Post<3
Heeeey so most people probably wouldn't recognise me, I posted mostly in AusGAF and gaming threads. Sucks that such a useful news resource is burned to the ground. Looking for a decent alternative, I hope both here and ResetEra can fill that. Especially with dank sales statistics.
By Pennywise Go To Post"I'm not trying to ruin his life. I wasn't trying to call him out. I was responding to a fucking hashtag about sexual assault and sexual abuse, and that story fit really well. Who gets into a shower with a naked girl who's puking?"
That line killed me.
I really wonder what he's thinking.
I think this is actually an interesting line and it could be fruitful for clowning him on his return. He picks on a girl at their lowest point, doesn't ask first, minimizes any chance to be turned down between clothes on and clothes off by just jumping straight to clothes off. You can from the quote that the mods walking just eats him up over this same fear of rejection, the way mods calling him out in the past had to be pushed out so it was on his terms not theirs. And you know OT has to die because that side was full of people who would have judged and rejected him the worst.
I think the prediction that the new site will welcome some of the grossest people in gaming is right on, because this guy is thirsty in the filthiest way for acceptance and he doesn't really care how it happens.
By Moris Go To Post
Good move sir
By Fliesen Go To PostSome of y'all are forgetting that what made GAF such a 'desirable' place to be in wasn't just the quantity of users, but also the quality. Like, industry insiders, devs, game journos … with GAF's reputation being permanently damaged, no amount of 'average-Joe-GAFfer' is going to make the site as relevant again as it once was..That was one of my favorite aspects of NeoGAF. I was able to communicate with actual developers, which was an absolute privilege that I wasn't able to find on any other forum. I don't think many of them will want to return given the controversy, which is why I'm putting a lot of faith into Resetera.
By Moris Go To PostYou guys are real homies.
By Moris Go To Post
The real MVPs
By Auto Simeone Go To Post
Is this real? It weirds me out that he's both underdressed to meet the President of the United States, and that he's sidelong smirking into the camera while Obama cheeses it. Some House of Cards shit.
By Not Go To PostI'm still not getting access to anything on the Discord besides #readPeople are alternating between the following topics:
Would be interesting to know what's going on
-Klepek's article
-Running the eggplant emoji into the ground as some kind of "joke"
-Posting Twitter updates from assholes/GG'ers
-Making idiotic game references
-Asking questions nobody has answers to (When does REF launch? What is OpenCritic?)
There's also a logo competition that closes tomorrow.
Wow this shitshow is taking a turn after another. I've been on GAF for almost 10 years and I have 0 interest in all this political discourse that's apparently been going on. From what I understand, the ResetEra-thing is going to be all that? Any chance on getting into that Discord server?
I'd be sus of folks who didn't step down after ami, i'm sorry. Former mod caught with child pornography. "We don't know 'em." Fuckery.
an only gaming gaf sounds like a complete and utter garbage fire
and dont think communities will be allowed any off topic talk at all, EL will not want anyone talking about anything that isnt video games
and dont think communities will be allowed any off topic talk at all, EL will not want anyone talking about anything that isnt video games
History of mental illness? Multiple breakdowns? These are things that shouldn't be thrown around lightly lest you end up sued for defamation. Of course, a huge segment of the population has been to counselors and therapists, so probably don't want to go down that road if there's danger. He's obviously lawyered up here but not by a good one, though we'll see what happens tonight.
I doubt anyone cares after EL's awful responce but Gaf is down again not sure if anyone's said it yet.
Anyone seriously contemplating going back there - aside from contacting friends or whatnot - after this should take a good look at themselves. I can understand shooting off to that new place but this? Fuck no.
In a way, the worst (or best) part of this is that he could've walked away scot free if only he would've owned up and admitted to his wrongdoings but the ego of the man is of such a gargantuan size that it just wouldn't let him.
Thank you for that. Pig.
In a way, the worst (or best) part of this is that he could've walked away scot free if only he would've owned up and admitted to his wrongdoings but the ego of the man is of such a gargantuan size that it just wouldn't let him.
Thank you for that. Pig.
By phqphq Go To Postplus a lot of those types are seemingly on board with reseterai have way less beef with the style of moderation on GAF as some others have, and with EL gone, i would hope(!) it might become a bit less ... arbitrary. Meanwhile, there's quite a few people that have 'endorsed' ResetERA, so i would ASSUME that'd be the place to get what made GAF the most unique among discussion forums and made the sword-of-damocles style moderation bearable.
By Complicated Go To PostIs this real? It weirds me out that he's both underdressed to meet the President of the United States, and that he's sidelong smirking into the camera while Obama cheeses it. Some House of Cards shit.
It's real, but if I remember correctly it was at some big event where you could pay for a quick photo op or something.
By Moris Go To PostI like that, the thought of people using GAF even to just reunite before leaving doesn't sit well with me given he's still gonna try and make money off of it
By Jacknapes Go To PostSo, EL is going to run GAF by himself. Or has he got a bunch of new mods to help out?.Yup bunch of boot lickers that finally get to be mods. Is wager resetera is going to be hit hard by tolls when they launch. I'm surprised trolls haven't made their way here and started in. Hopefully the mods here have plans in place to deal with that fuckery because slaent does not deserve it.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostI think a lot of that is Malka being like….what's the best way to move forward here. Should I sell the site? Restructure? There's enough of a fuckstorm that went down that its going to take time to sort things out, even if it was just from the webdev side of altering things. I doubt the statement is what's holding everything up, just making the changes to the site or (seems like its not going to happen) signing the ink to sell the site.I think you're kinda dismissing the "naw, she just a crazy bitch" parts of it too.
The entire mod team desolving is not surprising at all given internet environment right now. It's too toxic a thing to bother being associated with in this era of doxxing and shit. Like…no mod position is worth getting your name highlighted on either side of gamergate vs the world.
That cannot be the go-to move. Its just unreal - especially as the head of a community that stands against that exact thing. I think you're kinda missing a few parts of the whole ordeal as well.
By Mr. Blue Sky Go To PostSo whats the over under on GAF becoming a nice new home for a bunch of GGs and other similar trolls. His statements towards his victim are right up their alley.
Same thing I was thinking. Do they actually hate him? I am never stepping foot in there with a bastard like that in charge again.
"Yo that girl is craaaaaaazy, and gamergate exaggerated my own posts about grabbing sweet spanish ass"
is the defense. Should have asked him about leaking members girlfriends nude photos online as well.
is the defense. Should have asked him about leaking members girlfriends nude photos online as well.
By Jencks Go To Postyou have to say you read the rules in #readLMAO that's perfect
By Random Ass Username Go To PostI'd be sus of folks who didn't step down after ami, i'm sorry. Former mod caught with child pornography. "We don't know 'em." Fuckery.well, Klepek's article says that was EL's shitty response and the mods weren't really allowed to comment further - even if this wasn't the truth. I'm quite sure that some of them regret not stepping down sooner.
By Yharnam Go To PostI know you guys hate the mods, but I respect them for not putting up with his shit and collectively bailing the way they did.
I'm willing to hear em out. Side eye until it's proven they deserve the benefit of the doubt
i can only imagine the chaos at gaf when it opens back up. the smoke will eventually clear but the only people left there are going to be the kind i don't want to converse with at all. i hope resetera is a success.
Read the article. I wouldn't feel right going back after that and OT was at least half the fun for me. Guess this really is home, since the chances of me actively posting on multiple discussion boards approaches zero.
By Gaz_RB Go To PostYou ain't Gaz mothafucka
Hey man, I cant help that you copied my name ;)
But thats alright, its cool, we can be bro's as long as you acknowledgeto me as the best Gaz
By Tlaloc Go To PostYup bunch of boot lickers that finally get to be mods. Is wager resetera is going to be hit hard by tolls when they launch. I'm surprised trolls haven't made their way here and started in. Hopefully the mods here have plans in place to deal with that fuckery because slaent does not deserve it.I'm not in the main GAF discord, but the CFB community and some involved with the new site are aware of the attempts by trolls to take things over. At the very least they know. We'll see if they're able to largely defend against it when showtime comes.
That interview is just... damning, I guess. He an opportunity to build back a bit of good will and in a medium that is advantageous (email). Instead, he basically doubles down. Tone deaf / bad optics / egotistical / whatever you want to call it.
I expected better - my mistake.
I expected better - my mistake.
By G Shumy Go To PostIndeed. Folks gonna overlook it to get back home tho..
Shit, let em go back so they’re not stinking it up here