Just to recap.
An interview has been posted which talked to both the victim and Evilore as well as others.
The woman seemed polite and reasonable enough. Never really putting down Evilore, while Evilore has taken to completely destroying her character. Further it appears there is consideration for removing OT from the site and focusing on the video game side and the site should be up tonite.
Further no mention of stepping down or guilt.
An interview has been posted which talked to both the victim and Evilore as well as others.
The woman seemed polite and reasonable enough. Never really putting down Evilore, while Evilore has taken to completely destroying her character. Further it appears there is consideration for removing OT from the site and focusing on the video game side and the site should be up tonite.
Further no mention of stepping down or guilt.
By Kill Your Masters Go To PostTrump tweet levels of defense.When you hate trump so much that you implode into a derivative of the very same thing. Quite an achievement.
Good thing that neogaf opens again... At least we should be able to talk to other people about which website to go to, even if it has to be done via private message.
But holyshit EL is trash. "Untenable" off-topic? FOH with this BS, it was the best part of the website and you know it. You're just mad people finally called you out on your BS to an extent you couldn't just sweep under the rug.
But holyshit EL is trash. "Untenable" off-topic? FOH with this BS, it was the best part of the website and you know it. You're just mad people finally called you out on your BS to an extent you couldn't just sweep under the rug.
I'm sure that there are some false claims made about sexual assault. I'm sure that there are situations where the people involved can interpret it in a completely different manner. It's by no means impossible that the man is being unjustly smeared.
But why take so long to make any kind of statement to that effect? Why did the entire mod team, people that would probably interact with the man regularly, abandon him instantly? Why is there not a single person who has met Malka willing to defend him? Why just trash your site rather than face the music or make any attempt to defend yourself?
There's just no way for Malka's story to be credible at this point. What's most absurd about this is from what I can tell it seems like Ms Leupp would have accepted an apology if one had been forthcoming. He probably could have avoided trashing his reputation and his livelihood by just owning what he did. I guess the man of a thousand fights can't resist another scrap
But why take so long to make any kind of statement to that effect? Why did the entire mod team, people that would probably interact with the man regularly, abandon him instantly? Why is there not a single person who has met Malka willing to defend him? Why just trash your site rather than face the music or make any attempt to defend yourself?
There's just no way for Malka's story to be credible at this point. What's most absurd about this is from what I can tell it seems like Ms Leupp would have accepted an apology if one had been forthcoming. He probably could have avoided trashing his reputation and his livelihood by just owning what he did. I guess the man of a thousand fights can't resist another scrap
By Bort Go To PostWell now that we know he plans on continuing to run gaf I REALLY hope resetera does well and eats his lunch.
Really hoping for the same. He doesn’t deserve any success.
By John Rabbit Go To PostAmazing.
Is that a real quote?
By Einchy Go To PostWhat does this even mean? No more OT? OT was the best part of Gaf.Either way GAF's glory days on either side(gaming and OT) are long behind it. After reading about this stuff I know I can't ever in good conscious go back there with him at the helm, and I can only imagine a massive chunk of the userbase aren't returning either. The problem with building a board community that's based on tolerance and respect is that if you're exposed as being a creep who treats women like they're around just to please you then you're basically completely betraying your entire userbase. Essentially GAF just lost all of its quality users -- nobody with an ounce of respect for women will return there.
By The Twin Jebs Go To PostHe should have stepped down, I don't think I can see myself returning to GAF how terribly all of this has been handled.He wasn't going to ever step down or even let mods dictate policy and be more transparent. That was gaf's problem. It could never find its footing because the mods wanted one thing and then you had the contradictory often hypocritical mess of an owner.
He's not really thinking he can bring GAF back now is he? After what he just said? Talk about losing the high ground.
By Dozer1003 Go To Posthttps://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/qv384d/inside-the-sexual-misconduct-allegations-rocking-neogafs-last-48-hoursd?utm_source=wptwitterusJesus H. Flipping Christ this article makes my blood boil.
Absolutely no contrition other than towards the mods who left.
He's fucking clueless.
By sohois Go To PostI'm sure that there are some false claims made about sexual assault. I'm sure that there are situations where the people involved can interpret it in a completely different manner. It's by no means impossible that the man is being unjustly smeared.
But why take so long to make any kind of statement to that effect? Why did the entire mod team, people that would probably interact with the man regularly, abandon him instantly? Why is there not a single person who has met Malka willing to defend him? Why just trash your site rather than face the music or make any attempt to defend yourself?
There's just no way for Malka's story to be credible at this point. What's most absurd about this is from what I can tell it seems like Ms Leupp would have accepted an apology if one had been forthcoming. He probably could have avoided trashing his reputation and his livelihood by just owning what he did. I guess the man of a thousand fights can't resist another scrap
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"I'll be at the helm as I always have."
That bitchass was never at the helm, what the fuck is he talking about? The mods did all the work for him, while he was at the bank cashing checks.
Fuck that.
That bitchass was never at the helm, what the fuck is he talking about? The mods did all the work for him, while he was at the bank cashing checks.
Fuck that.
By recon_zero Go To Posthttps://twitter.com/mombot/status/922248959636074496ResetEra's gonna be the same ol' shit
They don't get it
By Apollo Go To PostThis is gross. Anyone that post on gaf is a gross person.Nah, I think it's perfectly legit to at least try to get back on and salvage whatever is left. Get people gathered up and moved to an alternative. But yeah I guess to stay on there as a main forum? You may be right on some level.
By PJV3 Go To PostThere's nothing wrong with her naming him by the way, I'm not implying that.
It's the Internet, you say someone is semi famous and people are going to talk.
I guess I don't understand the point of the comment. She didn't think it would and it did. She made a poor choice based on what she would have actually wanted to happen which was nothing. Unless you're saying she should have known better?
By sohois Go To PostI'm sure that there are some false claims made about sexual assault. I'm sure that there are situations where the people involved can interpret it in a completely different manner. It's by no means impossible that the man is being unjustly smeared.
But why take so long to make any kind of statement to that effect? Why did the entire mod team, people that would probably interact with the man regularly, abandon him instantly? Why is there not a single person who has met Malka willing to defend him? Why just trash your site rather than face the music or make any attempt to defend yourself?
There's just no way for Malka's story to be credible at this point. What's most absurd about this is from what I can tell it seems like Ms Leupp would have accepted an apology if one had been forthcoming. He probably could have avoided trashing his reputation and his livelihood by just owning what he did. I guess the man of a thousand fights can't resist another scrap
Towards the end his actions suggested that he would not admit fault in this and it looks like it turned out just as many predicted. I mean he was an asshole sure but I never knew how much of one he was till now.
By Not Go To PostResetEra's gonna be the same ol' shitEh, remains to be seen. Discord would be a terrible venue to have such a discussion. If they actually nuke discussion on the actual forum, then that would be a massive issue and error.
As mentioned before, none of us running SLAENT care where you post on the internet. You are all free to post here and become members of an inclusive community. If you choose to go back to GAF after reading that article, well, that’s your prerogative but that response was eye opening in ways even I didn’t think would get to.
I wonder how many ex gaffers will go back to gaf after he reopens Neogaf as a videogame only forum without OT. I think that will kill resetera
The next course of action is contacting our gaf "friends" and bringing them either here for the off topic or Reset ERA for gaming communities.
Now, Returning to GAF, is something I wouldn't do in good conscience. Man, that guy is a prick.
Now, Returning to GAF, is something I wouldn't do in good conscience. Man, that guy is a prick.
By Pennywise Go To PostWelcome.Thanks! I generally just lurked but this will be nice to browse!
Cheebo created a Box Office topic with the numbers.
http://slaent.com/thread/1247874/
Enjoy your time.
By Ukumio Go To PostJust read that NeoGAF is coming back but with a greater focus on games/gaming. If a whole heap of news posts start popping up I guess I'll go there again, but I won't ever use NeoGAF again, if that makes sense.oh, so it's definitely dead to me. Good to know
he still hasn't even made a public fuckin' statement lmao, this is emails with someone else
mind boggling
mind boggling
Well, holy shit.
At least GAF going back up will make it easier to group up and decide on a different site to go to...
At least GAF going back up will make it easier to group up and decide on a different site to go to...
Good luck:
-Getting your frequent users back
-Getting mods
-Getting ad revenue back
-Getting your fucking respect back
-Getting your frequent users back
-Getting mods
-Getting ad revenue back
-Getting your fucking respect back
'a deeply disturbed malicious individual'
malka struggling with the fact he cant ban people irl that make him look bad
malka struggling with the fact he cant ban people irl that make him look bad
The lack of self-awareness is just who he's been this whole time. Like when he'd just strut on gaf, utter proclamations or just perm people for disagreeing with dear leader.
Wow I half expected him to sulk away in the corner quietly given the activity across here, Waypoint, the Discord server etc. That's some high-horse he's putting himself on. Sadly for him, it's dead as fuck.
By Random Ass Username Go To PostHe pretty much sealed the deal well before the incident circulated in that thread we he permed parts of girlgaf and folks tsking at his wanton so called "objectivity" in saying "we can't just believe one woman who comes out." It was clear right then dude had something in the closet bout to be shown some light.
Yeah that shit just came out of nowhere for me. I'd seen him get worked up about random shit that would likely have gotten other people temporarily banned (like in that one thread about a Muslim kid that brought a clock to school), so I already knew he wasn't as "woke" as the rest of the forum but didn't expect him to start discrediting a victim of sexual assault out of nowhere. When you don't post much it's really telling what you choose to post about.
By Hypron Go To PostYeah that shit just came out of nowhere. I'd seen him get worked up about random shit that would likely have gotten other people temporarily banned (like in that one thread about a Muslim kid that brought a clock to school), so I already knew he wasn't as "woke" as the rest of the forum but didn't expect him to stoop that low.This a dude who permed a woman off gaf because she dared talk some shit in an offsite irc.
By hasanahmad Go To PostI wonder how many ex gaffers will go back to gaf after he reopens Neogaf as a videogame only forum without OT. I think that will kill reseteraI went to Gaf for the OT, the launch of the "recent" consoles killed the gaming section for me.
By Stead Fast Go To PostWow I half expected him to sulk away in the corner quietly given the activity across here, Waypoint, the Discord server etc. That's some high-horse he's putting himself on. Sadly for him, it's dead as fuck.well if this new site resetera doesn't allow users to talk about EL and amirox, they on the same shit as neogaf
By sohois Go To PostI'm sure that there are some false claims made about sexual assault. I'm sure that there are situations where the people involved can interpret it in a completely different manner. It's by no means impossible that the man is being unjustly smeared.Yeah EL has done enough shit we actually know about like the mass bannings in recent weeks to make me dislike him, whatever his sexual fuckups and communication mishandlings might be.
But why take so long to make any kind of statement to that effect? Why did the entire mod team, people that would probably interact with the man regularly, abandon him instantly? Why is there not a single person who has met Malka willing to defend him? Why just trash your site rather than face the music or make any attempt to defend yourself?
There's just no way for Malka's story to be credible at this point. What's most absurd about this is from what I can tell it seems like Ms Leupp would have accepted an apology if one had been forthcoming. He probably could have avoided trashing his reputation and his livelihood by just owning what he did. I guess the man of a thousand fights can't resist another scrap
By church Go To PostIs that a real quote?Absolutely.
By Kabro Go To Postwhat do you mean?It was kind of all over the place earlier with GAF meme's, but not actually talking about GAF itself.
Has Jim Sterling mentioned anything on social media regarding the forum?
By Hypron Go To PostYeah that shit just came out of nowhere. I'd seen him get worked up about random shit that would likely have gotten other people temporarily banned (like in that one thread about a Muslim kid that brought a clock to school), so I already knew he wasn't as "woke" as the rest of the forum but didn't expect him to stoop that low.
Oh god I remember that now. Fuck it puts it all into perspective.
Going back to gaf just to round people up and go elsewhere seems like the best option but I wonder if that will even be allowed. Jesus.
M.H.Williams and Besada giving thumbs up on Twitter regarding the Waypoint article. I do wish more mods would speak up, but the privacy concern is real. But those EL quotes, damn...had to made sure I wasn't reading PDP or Trump talking points. What the hell has he become? Or was this just an inevitable outcome?
Hmm... so I'm thinking NeoGaf re-opens but focuses on games. This means that all the Alt-righters can get back on board so it more than makes up for it. No idea what Resetera is going to be, but if a significant part of the game base goes back to NeoGaf, ResetEra has to survive solely on it's off topic merits. Meanwhile this play seems to have a good mix of everything, already built and established and off the radar for the most part with decent moderation. Crazy times ahead for the internet communities.
How the hell can he bring neogaf with that repuation and without mods. It probably ends up being one of the most legendary moments of the internet.
By Not Go To PostResetEra's gonna be the same ol' shitThat was posted yesterday to quell the sudden influx of people coming into the chat. They've been discussing EL and the article for the past 20 minutes without issue.
Well, that Waypoint article nailed down some things. Great reporting by Klepek. And yeah, it seems he is moving away from Off-Topic to avoid talk lingering into this stuff. And really, I'm not going back when it's up. It's Slaent and ResetERA from now on.
The article does a good job showing the view of the Mods. There position was somewhat understandable, and it shows how they were so ready to leave once these allegations came about. Still, they do have some responsibility, but I can't particularly blame them for caving during the Amir0x issue.
The article does a good job showing the view of the Mods. There position was somewhat understandable, and it shows how they were so ready to leave once these allegations came about. Still, they do have some responsibility, but I can't particularly blame them for caving during the Amir0x issue.
What a fucking delusional asshole. No hint of self awareness, remorse or decency. He can continue to be the small little dictator of his personal hellhole, the fucking cunt.