By Modal Soul Go To PostDid you forget in those same threads people were defending him? Do you not understand that we cannot afford to normalize things like this? Because I refuse to live in a world where some white dude gets to sit on top of money, sponsors, and fame while using a slur that dehumanizes people of my race; And wanting just an OUNCE of self awareness to pour from their fucking brains about the ramifications of using words such as that, that is an overreaction. Basic human decency is an overreaction…?*nods*
That he and his allies/defenders somehow manage to claim victimization unironically never ceases to amaze me.
By thefro Go To PostYeah, I just don't see 99% of people leaving (which is what it would really take to kill it) if the site magically popped back up and was competently moderated. People are creatures of habit.
I think at least 10-20% probably either haven't heard of the incident or couldn't care less about the ownership.
A lot of the prominent members have left though. That matters.
By Byakuya769 Go To PostHow you going to be in a "wigga" culture with an "a", but throwing around "niggER."
Shit don't add up.
Hes swedish bro, ofcourse his gonna hard "ER" everything he says, you know.
For real, when i saw this "but he said it with HARD RRRRRRRRRRRRRR" on Gaf i threw my hands up at the whole stupidity.
Are you people serious ? if someone says it with a hard R hes more racist than with a soft R ?
Hes not from fucking Alabama hes SWEDISH.
Look at him, he speaks fucking viking language you can't even pronounce with your English tongue.
By moop2000 Go To Postit does, though I know you're making a point.I'm a wigga, my niggeRRR!
GAF reloaded would be even more strict, it was barely tolerable as it was when you couldn't even tell someone to fuck off without fear of a ban. If people stay with him and give him money through ad revenue then they are hypocrites. Is he going to allow sexual harassment to be discussed? Without his case ever being mentioned. Good luck with that.
Also I must admit after a few days it feels damn good to not visit a site multiple times a day with 426 new Trump tweet threads.
Also I must admit after a few days it feels damn good to not visit a site multiple times a day with 426 new Trump tweet threads.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostYes im critical of neogaf for the retarded overeaction calling him a nazi and white supremacists for 300 pages.
And im critical of PDP for saying the word….but i give him points since he was livestreamed AND that he, like i mentioned, probably grew up with a "wigga" culture that was extremly popular in Europe in his teen days.
christ I'm so damn tired of people defending white dudes for saying dumb shit.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostHes swedish bro, ofcourse his gonna hard "ER" everything he says, you know.
For real, when i saw this "but he said it with HARD RRRRRRRRRRRRRR" on Gaf i threw my hands up at the whole stupidity.
Are you people serious ? if someone says it with a hard R hes more racist than with a soft R ?
Hes not from fucking Alabama hes SWEDISH.
Look at him, he speaks fucking viking language you can't even pronounce with your English tongue.
The mental gymnastics are on the level that even the GOP could learn something from this.
Damn.
By G Shumy Go To PostI think those who assume that it was real have beef. Shit..voat has multiple threads on it lol.
Right because all the people replying to the twitter account who are gaffers and happy about the decision certainly have beef??
If I can admit i got trolled then you have to admit people wouldn't be surprised by this time of policy from gaf moderators.
So unless you want to also make the case that these people are 1) Stupid 2) Got a beef 3) In on the troll too or
4) Not surprised by this sort of policy.
Doesn't matter which you pick, but I think that the narrative that only people who have a problem with NeoGaf would believe they would implement a policy like this is a bit naive.
By ned_ballad Go To PostMaybe
I just think a lot of the "oh man, Evilore is awful, we're never going back" is easy to say right now because there's no actual way to go back. Once the site is back, some of their friends turn up again, their favorite threads are active again, it seems harder to just stop going to the site.
Going back for stuff like sports/lego/filsm/anime/etc OT wouldn't be "completly" bad.
Going back to argue for pro-women's issues (even others). in gaming or otherwise, in a site owned by a creep that protects other creeps would make look like lil' bitch hypocrite. Which i fear some indeed are.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostHes swedish bro, ofcourse his gonna hard "ER" everything he says, you know.
For real, when i saw this "but he said it with HARD RRRRRRRRRRRRRR" on Gaf i threw my hands up at the whole stupidity.
Are you people serious ? if someone says it with a hard R hes more racist than with a soft R ?
Hes not from fucking Alabama hes SWEDISH.
Look at him, he speaks fucking viking language you can't even pronounce with your English tongue.
I'm not going to get into this beyond this, but he's lived in England for years. Language is not a good argument.
By Dardan Sandiego Go To Postchrist I'm so damn tired of people defending white dudes for saying dumb shit.Hey..that's racist..😒
By Dardan Sandiego Go To Postchrist I'm so damn tired of people defending white dudes for saying dumb shit.
never-ending cavalcade of fuck-nut apologists
By Palette Swap Go To PostHe’s going to need a shitload of new mods or old mods coming back, because you can still expect masses of new threads and account suicides.Did you somehow miss all the "make me a mod" begging that took place?
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostHes swedish bro, ofcourse his gonna hard "ER" everything he says, you know.
For real, when i saw this "but he said it with HARD RRRRRRRRRRRRRR" on Gaf i threw my hands up at the whole stupidity.
Are you people serious ? if someone says it with a hard R hes more racist than with a soft R ?
Hes not from fucking Alabama hes SWEDISH.
Look at him, he speaks fucking viking language you can't even pronounce with your English tongue.
And yet even in his Viking language he still found a way to find a racial slur for black people in America and use it.
Here’s the thing about the word nigger: you usually learn the definition as soon as you learn the word itself. If your defense is that he didn’t know what he was saying, you’re full of shit. There’s no way as a white person you say that knowing what it means and not intend to be a racist piece of shit.
It’s really strange that this is the hill you’re willing to die on, on a forum created and maintained by minorities.
By Francis Go To PostI'm from Sweden too - and I don't throw around the word "nigger". What's his excuse?No no no, you're Swedish, you're allowed to use American racist terms.
Come on, man.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostI just like his YLYL videos man, he makes me laugh, what can i say.
Hes a funny guy with a funny accent.
Ignore deeply entrenched discriminatory language because your "amused"? The fact that minorities already to go through life on an unequal playing field and remarks like PDP outburst continue to impact them means nothing because you can have a laugh? your not impacted so its fine right? Your an example of this appalling normalisation that needs to be tackled, your inconsideration for the venom behind the word and the history is quite frankly disgusting.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostYes im critical of neogaf for the retarded overeaction calling him a nazi and white supremacists for 300 pages.Come on, now. Kill that word from your vernacular. It's another horrible word to use and I really needn't lecture anyone on why that's so.
By TheMikado Go To PostRight because all the people replying to the twitter account who are gaffers and happy about the decision certainly have beef??
If I can admit i got trolled then you have to admit people wouldn't be surprised by this time of policy from gaf moderators.
So unless you want to also make the case that these people are 1) Stupid 2) Got a beef 3) In on the troll too or
4) Not surprised by this sort of policy.
Doesn't matter which you pick, but I think that the narrative that only people who have a problem with NeoGaf would believe they would implement a policy like this is a bit naive.
So..I'm saying those up in arms and upset and saying "of course" had beef. That's it. Cool? Or not cool? Doesn't matter which you pick..😛
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostHes swedish bro, ofcourse his gonna hard "ER" everything he says, you know.
For real, when i saw this "but he said it with HARD RRRRRRRRRRRRRR" on Gaf i threw my hands up at the whole stupidity.
Are you people serious ? if someone says it with a hard R hes more racist than with a soft R ?
Hes not from fucking Alabama hes SWEDISH.
Look at him, he speaks fucking viking language you can't even pronounce with your English tongue.
My dude, racism is a universal language. The dialects all the fucking same when you get down to it. Don't matter if you're Joe Redneck from Alabama or Union Jack from England, racism is racism.
By Zelas Go To PostThat troll really got the suspect users to show their ass big timeWell, there are clearly some users that wish for the "rebirth" to not go well, that's for sure.
I'm just going to be honest here
If the site came back up and PoliGAF started back up mostly the same as it had been, I'd probably go right back.
Which is probably hypocritical given I've not bought games like Hat in Time due to JonTron being in it... but, well, it's easier to not buy a game than to stop checking news I've read every day for 2+ years.
I'd go wherever PoliGAF ends up.
If the site came back up and PoliGAF started back up mostly the same as it had been, I'd probably go right back.
Which is probably hypocritical given I've not bought games like Hat in Time due to JonTron being in it... but, well, it's easier to not buy a game than to stop checking news I've read every day for 2+ years.
I'd go wherever PoliGAF ends up.
Who will be the mod team for Neo-neogaf?
If he intends to bring it all back his statement will have to hit it out the park. Remember that he was actively choosing to curb the allegations until it got too hot to touch. On top of so many things that I and many others didnt even know about until 2 days ago.
Neogaf will lose its credibility on the web and be labeled hypocrites anytime some hot button issue comes up especially in the current harassment climate confessions which will slowly eat away at the community bit by bit.
Its really crazy how one guy brought all of it down. Its like Superman went to take a whizz one day and found out his dick was Kryptonite.
If he intends to bring it all back his statement will have to hit it out the park. Remember that he was actively choosing to curb the allegations until it got too hot to touch. On top of so many things that I and many others didnt even know about until 2 days ago.
Neogaf will lose its credibility on the web and be labeled hypocrites anytime some hot button issue comes up especially in the current harassment climate confessions which will slowly eat away at the community bit by bit.
Its really crazy how one guy brought all of it down. Its like Superman went to take a whizz one day and found out his dick was Kryptonite.
By reKon Go To PostA lot of the prominent members have left though. That matters.
It definitely matters. If ResetEra, or whatever it will end up being called, can get out quick enough and obtains enough of the stranded gaf communities I think that then Neogaf will suffer quite a bit once it comes back fully. Seems like it will live but it will be a shell of what it was.
By Dardan Sandiego Go To Postchrist I'm so damn tired of people defending white dudes for saying dumb shit.
Let me guess you hate white bunnies ?
By Prine Go To PostIgnore deeply entrenched discriminatory language because your "amused"? The fact that minorities already to go through life on an unequal playing field and remarks like PDP outburst continue to impact them means nothing because you can have a laugh? your not impacted so its fine right? Your an example of this appalling normalisation that needs to be tackled, your inconsideration for the venom behind the word and the history is quite frankly disgusting.
Please don't speak for me. Thanks.
I don't even know who this guy is.
By DJ Lushious Go To PostCome on, now. Kill that word from your vernacular. It's another horrible word to use and I really needn't lecture anyone on why that's so.do you think that someone who writes the shit he's been writing on this thread cares anything about that? LOL.
By Gaz_RB Go To PostI'd honestly go back to neogaf if it came back up.Have some self-respect.
By DJ Lushious Go To PostCome on, now. Kill that word from your vernacular. It's another horrible word to use and I really needn't lecture anyone on why that's so.I mean, where to start with this poster (NaughtyRskl) ? Just an appalling attitude all round.
By Francis Go To PostHave some self-respect.
I don't think that has anything to do with it honestly.
Two things:
One, I have no beef with GAF and I thought it was real. I didn't even mind the harsh moderation (though I thought it could have been lightened up) because it's a private site and the owners/mods can do whatever the hell they like. I even liked Beseda, as we have similar tastes in comics.
Two, the way PDP used the n-word in context was clearly a slur, hard or soft r.
One, I have no beef with GAF and I thought it was real. I didn't even mind the harsh moderation (though I thought it could have been lightened up) because it's a private site and the owners/mods can do whatever the hell they like. I even liked Beseda, as we have similar tastes in comics.
Two, the way PDP used the n-word in context was clearly a slur, hard or soft r.
I actually gave my wife an ultimatum because she uses the word nigger. :))
Well not a divorce ultimatum, but 'we will get into a huge fight' ultimatum. She didn't understand the reason for the reasons I mentioned before, and that was ok. For me it was when she kept using it after that got me a little mad.
Well not a divorce ultimatum, but 'we will get into a huge fight' ultimatum. She didn't understand the reason for the reasons I mentioned before, and that was ok. For me it was when she kept using it after that got me a little mad.
By Squirrel Killer Go To PostDid you somehow miss all the "make me a mod" begging that took place?That was when being a mod meant having internet status on a popular internet community. Now it means you are wasting your time helping a creepy rich asshole getting richer.
There had to be something brewing for the mass mod walkout to happen so fast. No idea what was going on bts but I feel the allegations were the match that lit an already existing powder keg. Maybe they just didn't want to go to the mat for this guy locking threads when it was becoming clear that no statement was forthcoming.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostHes swedish bro, ofcourse his gonna hard "ER" everything he says, you know.This would have gotten you dog-piled and banned in a flash at GAF. God bless Slaent. I dont agree with your opinion, but I'm glad you can state it.
For real, when i saw this "but he said it with HARD RRRRRRRRRRRRRR" on Gaf i threw my hands up at the whole stupidity.
Are you people serious ? if someone says it with a hard R hes more racist than with a soft R ?
Hes not from fucking Alabama hes SWEDISH.
Look at him, he speaks fucking viking language you can't even pronounce with your English tongue.
By TheMikado Go To PostPlease don't speak for me. Thanks.
I don't even know who this guy is.
Im speaking for me and those impacted, thank you.
Evilore has to step down for anything to work. No way around it, even with a perfect apology and the victim's forgiveness. The type of community it fostered wasn't known for forgiveness.
By NaughtyRskl Go To PostAnd im critical of PDP for saying the word….but i give him points since he was livestreamed AND that he, like i mentioned, probably grew up with a "wigga" culture that was extremly popular in Europe in his teen days.
You know this doesn't make PDP any better?
And why do you care so much?
I am happy to see where some of the better members of neogaf end up but after this weeks events and the whole Amir0x thing I aint that keen on blindly following the old sites moderators.
By Paches Go To PostGlad to see a bunch of the old heads bouncing around here.
Who you callin' old?!?! Lol
By PeskyToaster Go To PostThere had to be something brewing for the mass mod walkout to happen so fast. No idea what was going on bts but I feel the allegations were the match that lit an already existing powder keg. Maybe they just didn't want to go to the mat for this guy locking threads when it was becoming clear that no statement was forthcoming.An article spoke with GhaleonEB, he said mods had talked about walking out before but stuck around because of the community. Some fuckery must have been going down.
I wish people would be honest " I like the dude and willing to ignore their racism because it doesn't affect me"
I would respect people a lot more if they said that instead of contorting reality into a pretzel defending racism.
I would respect people a lot more if they said that instead of contorting reality into a pretzel defending racism.
By G Shumy Go To PostSo..I'm saying those up in arms and upset and saying "of course" had beef. That's it. Cool? Or not cool? Doesn't matter which you pick..😛
What does being up in arms or not have to do with whether people think its true? There were people supporting the decision that thought it was true. The fact that people thought is was true because of past practice and reputation is the issue, not how "angry" people were about it.
I feel like you are missing the point. The issue was always "Would the old mods implement a policy like this?" and the fact is no matter which side you were coming from there were people that would answer "Yes, they might based on past practices and experience".
By Francis Go To PostHave some self-respect.
It's about having refresh on the bottom of the page.
Not sure if mentioned as this thread moves fast, but NeoGAF is back up. Not even joking. All forums and threads are wiped, but the user db is in tact as I was able to "log in" with my existing account. There's just nothing there.