Woj says Budenholzer is going to get consideration for the Raps job. Might as well replace the guy who only got 2 wins vs. Lebron with the guy who got no wins vs. Lebron.
By domino Go To Post
casey gone
Sucks but necessary. Raptors needed a new voice.
By Kuma Go To PostSucks but necessary. Raptors needed a new voice.What would a new voice have changed that they already didn't change this season?
By livefromkyoto Go To PostWoj says Budenholzer is going to get consideration for the Raps job. Might as well replace the guy who only got 2 wins vs. Lebron with the guy who got no wins vs. Lebron.Everyone will have to worry about boston next season including lebron.
Often times firing the coach is a tactic to try and unshake your stars. They go with the "we have all confidence in this lineup and they're good enough to win, they just need blah blah blah." Problem is, if the new coach doesn't work out quickly, the players will know they're the problem and it'll be an unrepairable level of shook.
People making a big deal of Kawhi in LA at a Dodger game is hilarious. It's the offseason. He's at a baseball game. Chill out.
People making a big deal of Kawhi in LA at a Dodger game is hilarious. It's the offseason. He's at a baseball game. Chill out.
By unknown Go To PostEveryone will have to worry about boston next season including lebron.
LeBron has to leave Cleveland. He'll be lucky to have survived to another finals this year. No way he can do it with the same core against a healthy Boston team
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostLeBron has to leave Cleveland. He'll be lucky to have survived to another finals this year. No way he can do it with the same core against a healthy Boston teamI think he will stay, they might make a move even if they are limited in what they can do.
By Kibner Go To PostWhat would a new voice have changed that they already didn't change this season?
Who knows.
By Jeff-DSA Go To PostOften times firing the coach is a tactic to try and unshake your stars. They go with the "we have all confidence in this lineup and they're good enough to win, they just need blah blah blah." Problem is, if the new coach doesn't work out quickly, the players will know they're the problem and it'll be an unrepairable level of shook.Wasn’t LeBron at a Yankees game or something before the decision?
People making a big deal of Kawhi in LA at a Dodger game is hilarious. It's the offseason. He's at a baseball game. Chill out.
By Fenderputty Go To PostWhat coach is going to make Demar or Kyle not be shook as fuck in the play offs?/END
By DY_nasty Go To Postborrego got everyone on his dick after his first conference lollllThat's... a mistake.
why blow it up when the entire reason we missed the playoffs is mcw, batum's injury, and cliff's ass offensive playbook
can't find out what you need to actually fix/throw away without getting to the playoffs first
can't find out what you need to actually fix/throw away without getting to the playoffs first
The only way Charlotte isn't bettter than Miami next season is if Winslow undergoes some tragic event to trigger a transformation.
By s y 2.0 Go To PostThe only way Charlotte isn't bettter than Miami next season is if Winslow undergoes some tragic event to trigger a transformation.i stopped hating on batum's contract when i saw this shit http://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/tyler-johnson-15645/
tyler johnson gotta be affiliated
MCW will always be injured, and Batum is washed. If everything goes right you'll battle Miami/Detroit for the 8th seed and make it or not I don't think that gets Kemba to stay. Y'all should cash out and start up the tank now cause if (when) he leaves y'all gonna be tanking anyway.
By DY_nasty Go To Posti stopped hating on batum's contract when i saw this shit http://www.spotrac.com/nba/miami-heat/tyler-johnson-15645/Owner fucked up. Brooklyn offered the signing sheet. Riley said they wouldn't match then Arison for some reason, said sign him. Yeah, Tyler knows where the bodies are buried.
tyler johnson gotta be affiliated
By masud Go To PostMCW will always be injured, and Batum is washed. If everything goes right you'll battle Miami/Detroit for the 8th seed and make it or not I don't think that gets Kemba to stay. Y'all should cash out and start up the tank now cause if (when) he leaves y'all gonna be tanking anyway.injured? breh. MCW is TRASH lmao and our coach was playing him and treveon graham over jeremy lamb lol. this is the fourth year where clifford let a guard go out and put up a historically bad season. ben gordon, gary neal, lance stephenson, mcw. he cannot help but play a team 4 on 5.
batum wouldn't be half as bad if our coach wasn't determined to play him as a shooting guard. charlotte lost almost every close game on the schedule because of clifford's dumb shit and point differential reflects that better than any rant i could give on it
By masud Go To PostI meant MKG.mkg survived two seasons after getting his arm torn off twice, i aint mad at him. but i am mad at clifford openly stating that mcw will close games as the defensive stopper over him still. fireable offense in itself.
Low key Chicago might be better than y'all too.
kris dunn nice af but they gotta survive actual expectations for a change. real easy to pull an orlando or detroit at that point and garpax is not something you ever bet money on
Is stuggling to get back into the playoffs with the same guys that just fell out of it really the path for long term success? Has that ever worked before? It's just wasting time, always start over.
By masud Go To PostIs stuggling to get back into the playoffs with the same guys that just fell out of it really the path for long term success? Has that ever worked before? It's just wasting time, always start over.What exactly do you mean by "start over"? Because there are lots of teams that have done just that without hitting the reset everything button. The Lakers even got a couple championships out of it.
By Kibner Go To Postmcw ain't even good at defense, despite his physical attributesehh nah he's pretty good imo
he tends to get torched but i think mostly its just chance
By diehard Go To Postehh nah he's pretty good imoI must just watch his worst games, then.
he tends to get torched but i think mostly its just chance
By Kibner Go To PostWhat exactly do you mean by "start over"? Because there are lots of teams that have done just that without hitting the reset everything button. The Lakers even got a couple championships out of it.I'm sorry has that ever worked for teams that aren't the Lakers? Regular teams can't expect free agency windfalls and gift trades.
By diehard Go To Postehh nah he's pretty good imohe has one good game every 6 on the defensive end. its really just his length combined with the shit you'd expect from a "scrappy pg" though. he'll hustle but that's not good defense. that's just effort. force him into making a decision and he'll cry
he tends to get torched but i think mostly its just chance
By masud Go To PostIs stuggling to get back into the playoffs with the same guys that just fell out of it really the path for long term success? Has that ever worked before? It's just wasting time, always start over.it wasn't really struggling to get back. the season was a massive underachieving expo. never playing mcw under any circumstance and getting a decent back up pg would've got us in the playoffs ez. i can't emphasize enough how bad he was and how he infected the bench with his trashness
not playing batum at sg while his arm was hanging off, not benching jeremy lamb for a guy no one has ever heard of, stop playing favorites with dwight and make him guard a pnr instead of being his fwiend, letting kaminsky play his actual game instead of making him shoot 3s for kemba 24/7, put mkg at the 4 and make him angry again, PLAY MALIK MONK, use the corner every once in a while, etc - that's just me asking for a perfect season lol
By masud Go To PostI'm sorry has that ever worked for teams that aren't the Lakers? Regular teams can't expect free agency windfalls and gift trades.Rockets
OKC
Indiana
Raptors
give memphis props too. if they don't get injured they probably smack GS too and end the reign of terror
hell, i'd probably be a lot more critical of the horncats if they didn't run into ECF teams in each post season run AND get injured mid series. if we were out losing to the raptors or hawks i'd be an entirely different person
hell, i'd probably be a lot more critical of the horncats if they didn't run into ECF teams in each post season run AND get injured mid series. if we were out losing to the raptors or hawks i'd be an entirely different person
Klay is fucking tripping. I'm not getting little brothered and leaving $50M on the table when everyone else got the full bag when it was time to get paid.
By s y 2.0 Go To PostRocketsRockets: Did they miss the playoffs? Even if they did they got absurdly lucky with the gift Harden trade. You can't depend on that...unless you're the Lakers.
OKC
Indiana
Raptors
OKC: Never missed the playoffs
Indiana: Started over by trading Pg3 for youth
Raptors: Started over after Bosh which lead to them getting Derozan
By masud Go To PostRaptors: Started over after Bosh which lead to them getting DerozanBosh was still there when they got DeRozan. He was the 9th pick, it wasn’t a tank job. It was just Colangelo’s trading for Jermaine O’Neal blowing up in his face badly.
By kjack Go To PostKlay is fucking tripping. I'm not getting little brothered and leaving $50M on the table when everyone else got the full bag when it was time to get paid.I"m not going to hate on a player getting theirs.
But 121M goes a long way in life. And that's just one contract.
If Klay would rather take a paycut and play for rings, then so be it.
By livefromkyoto Go To PostBosh was still there when they got DeRozan. He was the 9th pick, it wasn’t a tank job. It was just Colangelo’s trading for Jermaine O’Neal blowing up in his face badly.Yeah SY brought them up, I'm not really up on my Raptors history but they don't really fit what I was talking about anyway. I'm talking about continuing to kick the can down the road with a veteran fringe playoff team that's seen better days. Trying to get back in the mix with nothing but late lottery picks and exception money. That shit don't work.
you throw out the whole season because the bench was all-time bad and the coach went out of his way to be Larry Brown on offense?
i mean.... you could do that. Or you can make the easy fix, get to the playoffs, and see what you need to adjust for the long-term once you're actually there. biggest reason miami won was because batum died early and a guy pissed off wade lol. when the team goes backwards from any point you address why, retool/refocus, and go. that's not a blow it up scenario. by all means replacing jeremy lin with monk and adding depth to the front court should've fixed all of that - but the reason all of those things didn't become solutions is because of the coach/gm lack of cohesion. both are gone so you fire for effect and see where you're at
when it comes to blowing it up.... the hawks not only failed to blow it up when they should've, they drug their feet on the issue and got less than nothing for it. i don't even think the wizards need to blow it up either and they've been in the same spot for years now
i mean.... you could do that. Or you can make the easy fix, get to the playoffs, and see what you need to adjust for the long-term once you're actually there. biggest reason miami won was because batum died early and a guy pissed off wade lol. when the team goes backwards from any point you address why, retool/refocus, and go. that's not a blow it up scenario. by all means replacing jeremy lin with monk and adding depth to the front court should've fixed all of that - but the reason all of those things didn't become solutions is because of the coach/gm lack of cohesion. both are gone so you fire for effect and see where you're at
when it comes to blowing it up.... the hawks not only failed to blow it up when they should've, they drug their feet on the issue and got less than nothing for it. i don't even think the wizards need to blow it up either and they've been in the same spot for years now
By DY_nasty Go To Postyou throw out the whole season because the bench was all-time bad and the coach went out of his way to be Larry Brown on offense?I mean, you're supposing you get to the play offs.
i mean…. you could do that. Or you can make the easy fix, get to the playoffs, and see what you need to adjust for the long-term once you're actually there. biggest reason miami won was because batum died early and a guy pissed off wade lol. when the team goes backwards from any point you address why, retool/refocus, and go. that's not a blow it up scenario. by all means replacing jeremy lin with monk and adding depth to the front court should've fixed all of that - but the reason all of those things didn't become solutions is because of the coach/gm lack of cohesion. both are gone so you fire for effect and see where you're at
when it comes to blowing it up…. the hawks not only failed to blow it up when they should've, they drug their feet on the issue and got less than nothing for it. i don't even think the wizards need to blow it up either and they've been in the same spot for years now
Hornets didn't make it this year, and the east was fucking terrible.
And we had every non Kemba minute of offense run by a guy who put up a season that was one of the worst since the 60s
Burn the franchise down or get a backup pg and new coach?
Oh and play guys that are actually good. That are already on the roster lol
Burn the franchise down or get a backup pg and new coach?
Oh and play guys that are actually good. That are already on the roster lol
By DY_nasty Go To PostOh and play guys that are actually good. That are already on the roster lolWho is good on the Hornets that didn't play though?
Monk got like no burn right? I still don't understand why they didn't play him over the human trashcan
By joefu Go To PostMonk got like no burn right? I still don't understand why they didn't play him over the human trashcanhe had 854 minutes with a -15.4 on/off. They were trying to make the playoffs until the end of the season
By DY_nasty Go To PostAnd we had every non Kemba minute of offense run by a guy who put up a season that was one of the worst since the 60sWhere did i say burn the franchise down?
Burn the franchise down or get a backup pg and new coach?
Oh and play guys that are actually good. That are already on the roster lol
You've got 1 for sure good player, kemba. Dwight "Post Offense God" (Dy tm) Howard. And 1, we're not really sure if he's good anymore, though his stats are ok, but he's probably massively over paid, Batum.
And you're mad the team wasn't playing Jeremy, Best remembered for never doing anything in OKC or anything after OKC and, not being able to get play time over trash wings. Lamb.
And you're waiting until the team makes the playoffs to evaluate the roster? lol. Ok.
The only 2 players worth anything on the whole roster are Kemba and Monk.
in some reality, Batum should be able to give you 15/6/5. In that same reality, Cody Zeller is a quality big.
By diehard Go To PostNah, Marvin Williams is a solid player.Marvins fine, but he's nothing more than an 8th man.
By s y 2.0 Go To Postin some reality, Batum should be able to give you 15/6/5. In that same reality, Cody Zeller is a quality big.Basically, yeah. 15/6/5, good defense, an outlet for kemba so he's not the only one that initiates offense, good 3p% to space the floor.
By masud Go To PostYeah SY brought them up, I'm not really up on my Raptors history but they don't really fit what I was talking about anyway. I'm talking about continuing to kick the can down the road with a veteran fringe playoff team that's seen better days. Trying to get back in the mix with nothing but late lottery picks and exception money. That shit don't work.You can do it, there’s just a degree of difficulty - you need really good analytics, scouting, and ruthless cap management. You can say Houston got lucky with Harden, but fact is nobody was thinking he was that good when they made that trade. People knew he could play but he was coming off OKC’s bench and was seen as another one-way scorer, not a true cornerstone. Morey kept building assets and maintaining cap flexibility with an eye toward landing a star when they became available, none of that happened for them by accident. He took so much heat for treating players as numbers. Player development matters a lot too, there are probably at least 15 other franchises where Capela never becomes anybody.
I clearly remember people in the gaf thread laughing t OKC and aying Harden would lead the league in scoring as the #1 option. We were also laughing at him not showing up in the Finals v Miami too.