By Laboured Go To PostSo every bastard and their mother basically
By Laboured Go To PostUber just got shafted by TfL. I see you Viva.
Good. They need to be fucked to death.
The best place for Pellegri is Genoa, where expectations are low, and he can develop without being third-deep on a bench or endlessly whored out on loan.
Anyone looking to buy him now has zero interest in his trajectory. They're just financially speculating.
Anyone looking to buy him now has zero interest in his trajectory. They're just financially speculating.
By flinbad the flailer Go To PostThe best place for Pellegri is Genoa, where expectations are low, and he can develop without being third-deep on a bench or endlessly whored out on loan.
Anyone looking to buy him now has zero interest in his trajectory. They're just financially speculating.
Given the prices of young players now you almost can't afford not to financially speculate, but I generally agree with your point.
Mou says Martial is a lot happier than last year, his mood has changed, that is nice to hear, no complaints about him so far really, definitely working harder.
Still no idea when Pogbas back
Still no idea when Pogbas back
By Kidjr Go To PostMe too, like I get they do shitty things but kinda hope this just forces them to be a better company rather than removing them totally.
Paintballing is fucking raw, only done for the first time a few years ago, shit hurts.
You dangerously underestimate how shitty and non-empathetic Uber is as a company. They have never, ever chosen to take the high road when confronted with obstacles. They would sooner halt operations in a metropolitan area than do the bare minimum criminal background checks to ensure the safety of their customers. They prey on the underpriveleged by offering them sub-prime leases on cars, where they are locked into three year leases totaling double or more the value of their car, and THEN offer them the car to purchase for thousands more on top. As far as I know the only profitable division of their company is this. It's PayDay loans in 4-wheeled form.
They are losing hundreds of million dollars per year in their pursuit of knocking every legit, regulated, legal driving service off the market to establish a monopoly. It's predatory capitalism at best, and it's run by a guy who is so vile he makes Enron's board look like your average joes.
Anyone who uses Uber simply doesn't know enough about how exceedingly evil their existence is. Use a real taxi. There are apps that do what Uber does (it does nothing you couldn't previously do with a phone call) with real taxis.
By Grizzled Cola Go To PostMou says Martial is a lot happier than last year, his mood has changed, that is nice to hear, no complaints about him so far really, definitely working harder.
Still no idea when Pogbas back
Won't be until after international break.
What issues do Uber have with their drivers in London besides cabbies not wanting the competition?
In the US it's a matter of cab companies not wanting to invest to modernize their business and keep things as they've always been just....because. Their reasoning seems to be "they're too fast, too reliable and too affordable. We can't compete with that type of service! We're cabbies!"
In the US it's a matter of cab companies not wanting to invest to modernize their business and keep things as they've always been just....because. Their reasoning seems to be "they're too fast, too reliable and too affordable. We can't compete with that type of service! We're cabbies!"
By Oddinho Go To PostYou dangerously underestimate how shitty and non-empathetic Uber is as a company. They have never, ever chosen to take the high road when confronted with obstacles. They would sooner halt operations in a metropolitan area than do the bare minimum criminal background checks to ensure the safety of their customers. They prey on the underpriveleged by offering them sub-prime leases on cars, where they are locked into three year leases totaling double or more the value of their car, and THEN offer them the car to purchase for thousands more on top. As far as I know the only profitable division of their company is this. It's PayDay loans in 4-wheeled form.
They are losing hundreds of million dollars per year in their pursuit of knocking every legit, regulated, legal driving service off the market to establish a monopoly. It's predatory capitalism at best, and it's run by a guy who is so vile he makes Enron's board look like your average joes.
Anyone who uses Uber simply doesn't know enough about how exceedingly evil their existence is. Use a real taxi. There are apps that do what Uber does (it does nothing you couldn't previously do with a phone call) with real taxis.
Oh, you're paying $800 a month for this Camry? Word? You can make this next right...
I don't care about their drivers or their personal finances. They offer the best service and rates. As a consumer that's all that matters to me.
I'll often use Lyft though as their prices are even cheaper especially during peak hours.
By GQman2121 Go To PostI don't care about their drivers or their personal finances. They offer the best service and rates. As a consumer that's all that matters to me.
I'll often use Lyft though as their prices are even cheaper especially during peak hours.
Sound reasoning. Who cares who it fucks over? It's cheap!
(btw it's fucking you over too, thankfully there are people with sense to look at it in the longer term than you)
By GQman2121 Go To PostI don't care about their drivers or their personal finances. They offer the best service and rates. As a consumer that's all that matters to me.I, for one, am flabbergasted that a Chelsea supporter would so forthrightly unmask themselves as a piece of shit.
Go kill some more puppies, you wanker.
By GQman2121 Go To PostOh, you're paying $800 a month for this Camry? Word? You can make this next right…Pos
I don't care about their drivers or their personal finances. They offer the best service and rates. As a consumer that's all that matters to me.
I'll often use Lyft though as their prices are even cheaper especially during peak hours.
the rational consumer decision is to go for what's cheaper since service doesn't really vary (many prefer/need uber anyway)
this is a case of government protectionism, even worse, protectionism over a dying role
all the cabbies will be replaced with driverless ubers in the near future, so who gives a fuck
also uber has a new ceo, give the guy a chance
this is a case of government protectionism, even worse, protectionism over a dying role
all the cabbies will be replaced with driverless ubers in the near future, so who gives a fuck
also uber has a new ceo, give the guy a chance
It's not only cheaper, it's better in every way. If they're the best experience, why would I choose to use a more expensive, less convenient method to travel for a few dollars?
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think Uber is forcing anyone to sign up or lease cars from them to work full-time. It seems in the US like a part time side gig. If someone is going in thinking this is their new career how is that Ubers fault? And is this the primary reason for their banishment in London?
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think Uber is forcing anyone to sign up or lease cars from them to work full-time. It seems in the US like a part time side gig. If someone is going in thinking this is their new career how is that Ubers fault? And is this the primary reason for their banishment in London?
By flinbad the flailer Go To PostI, for one, am flabbergasted that a Chelsea supporter would so forthrightly unmask themselves as a piece of shit.I'm just being honest and asking questions. I admittedly only know the situation from the surface.
Go kill some more puppies, you wanker.
Let’s not fucking pretend we know about all the taxi services in the world, their practices and their intents.
In my city, Uber is the cheaper, faster, more convenient and safer alternative to an old, monopolistic, smelly, expensive, scamming taxi service.
They have been caught scamming costumers countless times. They demand tips. They won’t drive you if they think it’s not a profitable route for them. They don’t practice basic hygiene. They will be rude to you. They harass Uber drivers and their costumers. They surround and damage Uber cars and they literally shit in bags and throw them at ‘em. It’s a class of literal scum of the earth.
So yes I’ll fucking keep taking an Uber car as long as I can, unless something better comes along. And fuck Taxis.
In my city, Uber is the cheaper, faster, more convenient and safer alternative to an old, monopolistic, smelly, expensive, scamming taxi service.
They have been caught scamming costumers countless times. They demand tips. They won’t drive you if they think it’s not a profitable route for them. They don’t practice basic hygiene. They will be rude to you. They harass Uber drivers and their costumers. They surround and damage Uber cars and they literally shit in bags and throw them at ‘em. It’s a class of literal scum of the earth.
So yes I’ll fucking keep taking an Uber car as long as I can, unless something better comes along. And fuck Taxis.
This episode of the Dollop on Uber is a really good summary of what an absolutely awful company they are.
http://thedollop.libsyn.com/271-uber
I don't think they're really in Ireland yet, not sure if it would be legal here.
http://thedollop.libsyn.com/271-uber
I don't think they're really in Ireland yet, not sure if it would be legal here.
By ReRixo Go To Postthe rational consumer decision is to go for what's cheaper since service doesn't really vary (many prefer/need uber anyway)
this is a case of government protectionism, even worse, protectionism over a dying role
all the cabbies will be replaced with driverless ubers in the near future, so who gives a fuck
also uber has a new ceo, give the guy a chance
It isn't government protectionism dude, it's the government applying a bare minimum of requirements to operate legally in your area. The same standard applies everywhere, Uber just doesn't meet it. Their MO is to pop up in new markets and operate as long as they can until they're kicked out.
Calling it protectionism is just eating the horseshit Uber is serving you.
If they had offered a cheap, convenient product that did not sacrifice public safety or failed to meet minimum wage requirements, while satisfied basic hiring and operating regulations that legal driving services do, they would be allowed to continue.
But here's the thing: that product doesn't exist. They're already wildly unprofitable. The only reason they've gotten this far is because the law hasn't caught up with the tech, and now that places like London are holding them accountable to their standards, which we all agree are for the good of the public, they aren't going to be able to do business.
This is the company that claimed you're safer in one of their cars than a standard cab, despite doing name-only criminal background checks, then said any woman who deleted the Uber app and was later raped should blame the journalist who alerted the public to their unabated issues of sexism. Just as a kicker.
By GQman2121 Go To PostI'm just being honest and asking questions. I admittedly only know the situation from the surface.You weren't asking questions, but you certainly were being honest.
By ReRixo Go To Postthe rational consumer decision is to go for what's cheaper since service doesn't really vary (many prefer/need uber anyway)"Rational consumer decision" is an ideological gem, not a brute fact of life. An inclination towards price motivation is as determined as opting for a more ethical alternative, a more safe alternative, a more traditional alternative, etc. That we accept price as a trumping mechanism says more about our morality than our reality.
this is a case of government protectionism, even worse, protectionism over a dying roleWhat is the point of the government if not to provide (for) safer, more socially responsible services? Protection is included in that practically axiomatically.
all the cabbies will be replaced with driverless ubers in the near future, so who gives a fuckDriverless? Sure. Uber? Hopefully not. I'd much rather a communal version, thanks - where the eradication of an industry doesn't benefit merely a few.
By Oddinho Go To PostYou dangerously underestimate how shitty and non-empathetic Uber is as a company. They have never, ever chosen to take the high road when confronted with obstacles. They would sooner halt operations in a metropolitan area than do the bare minimum criminal background checks to ensure the safety of their customers. They prey on the underpriveleged by offering them sub-prime leases on cars, where they are locked into three year leases totaling double or more the value of their car, and THEN offer them the car to purchase for thousands more on top. As far as I know the only profitable division of their company is this. It's PayDay loans in 4-wheeled form.
They are losing hundreds of million dollars per year in their pursuit of knocking every legit, regulated, legal driving service off the market to establish a monopoly. It's predatory capitalism at best, and it's run by a guy who is so vile he makes Enron's board look like your average joes.
Anyone who uses Uber simply doesn't know enough about how exceedingly evil their existence is. Use a real taxi. There are apps that do what Uber does (it does nothing you couldn't previously do with a phone call) with real taxis.
My problem is with people taking the "moral highground" with uber is its hard for me not to see this as just the flavour of the month.
Are you going to stop using google, facebook, twitter or are you going to stop using petrol in anyway shape or form.
Like take the moral high ground against uber, yeah sure but why not do it to them all?
Shitting in plastic bags? Human shit? It's not that serious over here.
Jesus Christ, I'm just trying to get to the other side of the harbor for a happy hour in a reasonable amount of time. It's a 8-10 minute drive in traffic. A $6 fare.
And, yes, I'd love a bottle of Fiji. Have five stars and a $2 tip (Lyft) because I like you and your choice of air freshener.
Jesus Christ, I'm just trying to get to the other side of the harbor for a happy hour in a reasonable amount of time. It's a 8-10 minute drive in traffic. A $6 fare.
And, yes, I'd love a bottle of Fiji. Have five stars and a $2 tip (Lyft) because I like you and your choice of air freshener.
By Kidjr Go To PostMy problem is with people taking the "moral highground" with uber is its hard for me not to see this as just the flavour of the month.I dunno about everyone else, but I do make attempts to avoid those companies whose practices I disagree with. Nestle and Uber being the two most prominent.
Are you going to stop using google, facebook, twitter or are you going to stop using petrol in anyway shape or form.
Like take the moral high ground against uber, yeah sure but why not do it to them all?
By GQman2121 Go To PostIt's not only cheaper, it's better in every way. If they're the best experience, why would I choose to use a more expensive, less convenient method to travel for a few dollars?
Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think Uber is forcing anyone to sign up or lease cars from them to work full-time. It seems in the US like a part time side gig. If someone is going in thinking this is their new career how is that Ubers fault? And is this the primary reason for their banishment in London?
I'm just being honest and asking questions. I admittedly only know the situation from the surface.
They don't actually offer viable long term careers, though. They get people in the door by offering good rates at the start, draw you into thinking you can make it a full time job, and then cutting rates so low that it isn't sustainable. People who quit their job to become full time drivers found themselves with roughly half their original income after their cut was reduced. And Uber's response to them was "It's no big deal taking a 40% cut, you can just drive more to make that money!"
Until recently they had been calculating taxes before paying drivers their cut, not after, which is standard legal practice. Years of this before they were caught, btw.
They've gone through handfuls of lawsuits and been denied settlement offers because they're too far below the amount of shit they've caused for their "contractors".
Again, the only reason they exist right now is because law moves slower than tech.
By Kidjr Go To PostMy problem is with people taking the "moral highground" with uber is its hard for me not to see this as just the flavour of the month.
Are you going to stop using google, facebook, twitter or are you going to stop using petrol in anyway shape or form.
Like take the moral high ground against uber, yeah sure but why not do it to them all?
If you think Google, FB and Twitter are in the same category as Uber, you just don't know enough.
By Kidjr Go To PostMy problem is with people taking the "moral highground" with uber is its hard for me not to see this as just the flavour of the month.Google, Facebook, Amazon etc. are monopolies that provide important/useful services. It's hard to address their problems as consumers and to completely disengage even if you want to. Same with petrol. I think these issues are more likely to be solved politically.
Are you going to stop using google, facebook, twitter or are you going to stop using petrol in anyway shape or form.
Like take the moral high ground against uber, yeah sure but why not do it to them all?
I guess in the case of Uber, more obvious, viable alternatives exist as a consumer exist. But in any case, I think it's okay to pick your battles.
By GQman2121 Go To PostShitting in plastic bags? Human shit? It's not that serious over here.
Some middle aged taxi driver doing this to a Uber driving young woman.
Classy shit.
Okay, that's all good, and valid, and I sympathize with those that chose that life for themselves.
If they can't afford to maintain their business then they'll die off. But until things change they're still the best option for those of us who live in a city and don't own a car.
If they can't afford to maintain their business then they'll die off. But until things change they're still the best option for those of us who live in a city and don't own a car.
By sohois Go To PostI dunno about everyone else, but I do make attempts to avoid those companies whose practices I disagree with. Nestle and Uber being the two most prominent.
If your consistent cool.
And I'm not even aiming this at Odd, but I highly doubt many people are so consistent.
By Oddinho Go To PostIt isn't government protectionism dude, it's the government applying a bare minimum of requirements to operate legally in your area. The same standard applies everywhere, Uber just doesn't meet it. Their MO is to pop up in new markets and operate as long as they can until they're kicked out.
Calling it protectionism is just eating the horseshit Uber is serving you.
If they had offered a cheap, convenient product that did not sacrifice public safety or failed to meet minimum wage requirements, while satisfied basic hiring and operating regulations that legal driving services do, they would be allowed to continue.
But here's the thing: that product doesn't exist They're already wildly unprofitable The only reason they've gotten this far is because the law hasn't caught up with the tech, and now that places like London are holding them accountable to their standards, which we all agree are for the good of the public, they aren't going to be able to do business.
This is the company that claimed you're safer in one of their cars than a standard cab, despite doing name-only criminal background checks, then said any woman who deleted the Uber app and was later raped should blame the journalist who alerted the public to their unabated issues of sexism. Just as a kicker.
Neither does Airbnb, wework?
Could uber be run better, 100% and they should be held accountable but I promise you as someone who recruited for them extensively and other similar companies the claims your aiming at them that make them SO evil can be said for so many technology companies. Which if thats how you feel, fair enough but either be consistent or understand that some people are going to continue to use it regardless and that doesnt make them bad people (another conversation for another day flabber pls lol).
Like sexism is important to you right? Are you all of a sudden only going to use bing? fuck no.
By Oddinho Go To PostIf you think Google, FB and Twitter are in the same category as Uber, you just don't know enough.
I've placed enough people with most of the mention to think I do know enough.
Desperately trying not to make an irrational purchase here but my word this is the most beautiful car right now, it's perfect in every way. I either purchase a second condo or say YOLO...
The 718 Cayman.
The 718 Cayman.
seems I've misunderstood the situation a little, Uber can continue to operate while they appeal the decision (which will take months/years), in which time they can address the concerns of TfL such as background checks and their greyball software (which allegedly blocks regulatory bodies from gaining full access to the app). despite the attention, this isn't a big deal, and should hopefully change uber for the better.
people seem to paint the picture of uber just in there to distort markets without any sustainability model, but it seems they're set to achieve their long term business goals
By Oddinho Go To PostBut here's the thing: that product doesn't exist. They're already wildly unprofitable. The only reason they've gotten this far is because the law hasn't caught up with the tech, and now that places like London are holding them accountable to their standards, which we all agree are for the good of the public, they aren't going to be able to do business.if uber gets their funding from other sources, does it really matter how they subsidise their services? uber collects an absurd amount of data from each journey, so they are gaining a lot more than just the cab fare. this will all feed into the model for their self driving cars, giving them a competitive edge over google/tesla/whoever else.
people seem to paint the picture of uber just in there to distort markets without any sustainability model, but it seems they're set to achieve their long term business goals
Uber has the shittiest self driving cars and doesn't report their statistical information regarding driver safety btw (Google, for example, does)
By Kidjr Go To PostMy problem is with people taking the "moral highground" with uber is its hard for me not to see this as just the flavour of the month.Prorities differ from person to person, place to place, moment to moment. Pitching every battle simultaneously is folly and futility.
Are you going to stop using google, facebook, twitter or are you going to stop using petrol in anyway shape or form.
Like take the moral high ground against uber, yeah sure but why not do it to them all?
That noted, like many others including Sohois above, I do restrict my money going to companies and practices I find thoroughly reprehensible.
By Fintan Go To PostGoogle, Facebook, Amazon etc. are monopolies that provide important/useful services. It's hard to address their problems as consumers and to completely disengage even if you want to. Same with petrol. I think these issues are more likely to be solved politically.Aye, (inter)nationalize them.
By n8 dogg Go To Postchinese child slaves have made the products we are having this argument onWhile you're obviously being facetious and hyperbolic, these sorts of mundane hypocrisies should be a cause for reflection and, ideally, action. I've also studied the issue enough (through some undergraduate work years ago) to know, for example, how that issue ties into broader labor concerns surrounding international capital flows, the cross-cutting class structure of the world-system, the inequality between the urban and rural laborers in China, etc.
we are monsters
Progress bursts out everywhere but heterogenously and not always successfully.
yeah uber self driving cars are significantly worse than google's right now, but a lot can change in the time it'll take for these cars to be driving us around
By Oddinho Go To PostUber has the shittiest self driving cars and doesn't report their statistical information regarding driver safety btw (Google, for example, does)
If you feel that strongly about uber you really should stop using google.
It's impossible not to be a hypocrite in today's society if you want to live an "ordinary" life and don't feel like abandoning all forms of modern technology in favour of moving out into the bush, but along the way you can try your best to not enable those (in this instance) companies which cause the most harm and rely on unethical behaviour and treats its workers/environments/consumers like dirt.
Just because most of them tend to get away with that doesn't make it right.
I'm not sure exactly where Uber place on this scale - never used their services - but from what I've heard and read it's not very positive.
Just because most of them tend to get away with that doesn't make it right.
I'm not sure exactly where Uber place on this scale - never used their services - but from what I've heard and read it's not very positive.
By Kidjr Go To PostIf you feel that strongly about uber you really should stop using google.I'm curious about the Google practices you keep alluding to - and not in a snarky way, but a sincere way. I don't follow them much at all, and I restrict my use of their services to search, maps, occasionally youtube (usually for free music) and occasionally gmail (which is secondary to my work email, anyways). My knowledge of them is superficial at best.
Edit: The fact that I had to edit in maps and youtube speaks to their insidious ubiquity.
Lads, it's okay to disagree without getting personal or restoring to name-calling.
Sorry about the backseat modding, LF.
Sorry about the backseat modding, LF.
By Bold 2 in One Go To PostLads, it's okay to disagree without getting personal or restoring to name-calling.Fuck off, cunt.
Sorry about the backseat modding, LF.
Like JTS, Uber is by far the best alternate to the corrupt taxi industry we have here in Malaysia.
Still, Uber is a horrifically ran company, with its core business only made possible due to it bypassing the regulations that were set to make taxis, and public transport safer for us normalfolk.
I mean, I can understand using it because it's cheap, and the best choice available. Defending the company though, makes you a doodoo head.
Still, Uber is a horrifically ran company, with its core business only made possible due to it bypassing the regulations that were set to make taxis, and public transport safer for us normalfolk.
I mean, I can understand using it because it's cheap, and the best choice available. Defending the company though, makes you a doodoo head.
By Bold 2 in One Go To PostLads, it's okay to disagree without getting personal or restoring to name-calling.
Sorry about the backseat modding, LF.
eat my shorts smegma farmer
By flinbad the flailer Go To PostI'm curious about the Google practices you keep alluding to - and not in a snarky way, but a sincere way. I don't follow them much at all, and I restrict my use of their services to search, maps, and occasionally gmail (which is secondary to my work email, anyways). My knowledge of them is superficial at best.
A candidate was "allegedly" raped by a member of senior management onsite and rather than report it to authorities to avoid publicity they promoted said person, a loyalty bonus and made her sign on a NDA and said manager moved to a different function (demoted).
I wont say I have hundreds, but a handful of grotesque things that have happened. And not just in google, software engineers and machine learners are the rock stars of 21st century and while it may not be wifely perceived as so, believe they act like it (minus the drugs tbf).