Deadspin: How SB Nation Profits Off An Army Of Exploited Workers
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Twelve years ago, SB Nation began as a do-it-yourself venture, by and for fans, more a community of communities than a journalistic endeavor. It has since evolved and rebranded itself and emerged as Vox Media, which was valued at $1 billion in 2015 after a $200 million round of funding from NBCUniversal. The SB Nation network itself, consisting of 319 team websites, has remained in place, a vast operation read by millions of people every month and powered by unpaid and underpaid labor.
These sites are run by managers who are expected to post articles and videos, track and sometimes break news, manage writers, conduct interviews, assign stories, find contributors, edit posts, write analysis, and generally do the work of journalism. These responsibilities can add up to a demanding job—or, in some cases, a close to full-time one—but site managers are independent contractors who are paid a monthly stipend that varies widely. According to more than a dozen former and current site managers I spoke to, that stipend tends to hover around $600. The stipend often doubles as a budget. (Some site managers also receive money, or extra money to pay contributors, based on post-count or page-view metrics.) Site managers at most team sites are free to pay their budget to themselves in its entirety, use it to lure other contributors, split it with or among sub-editors or the site’s most prolific writers, or whatever else they like. Whatever they do, there isn’t much to go around. Many, perhaps even most, contributors do not get paid; no one is paid well. That many people who write for the team sites are not paid is in direct conflict with the SB Nation policy, which, according to company executives, mandates that everyone who contributes to Vox Media in any way must be paid for it. But even the people who do get paid are getting a raw deal. Many put in long hours and receive only token sums for work against which Vox sells ads—a setup that could, according to labor lawyers, conflict with labor laws.
Site managers who spoke on the condition of anonymity consistently described feeling replaceable: If they didn’t get enough posts up, or didn’t recruit enough writers, or didn’t post on Facebook enough, or didn’t draw enough page views, someone else would be brought in to do it, regardless of concern for quality of the work.http://deadspin.com/how-sb-nation-profits-off-an-army-of-exploited-workers-1797653841
One site manager, after raising concerns about what was expected of him and the low pay, said he received a “raving email” from a superior “essentially saying I was just looking for trouble, that I was easily replaceable, and that if I wasn’t happy they could find someone else.” He said, “The response from above was that there are plenty of people who would love to be in your position. If you don’t want the 600 or whatever bucks a month, you can fuck right off and we’ll find someone else to do it.”
Just wanted to write you and say your article about SB Nation’s profits off exploited workers was something I wanted to scream “hell yeah!” to while my blood simultaneously boiled. I recently wrapped up two years as a college site manager and of my staff that averaged 20 or so writers during my tenure, only 3-4 of them ever received checks from SB Nation.
On top of this, when I left my position, my replacement immediately began making a stipend of $250 per month. Sounds like a small amount compared to the $600/month average reported in your article right? WELL WAIT JUST A SECOND… When I became manager in 2015, my base stipend was $50/month. Despite notable site growth during my time as manager (2+ million pageview increase per year between 2014-2016), my base stipend was never raised once. Gee, thanks for rewarding my hard work, SB Nation.
I was the managing editor for [redacted] team site from 2013 to 2015.http://deadspin.com/sb-nation-bosses-current-and-former-workers-discuss-pa-1797868635
I was pressured to work harder and longer each month, all while I was being paid a mere $100 a month.
Boo fucking hoo.
I don't get paid for my opinion that I originally agreed to give for free because I'm just that passionate about the team!
The higher ups are right. If these people don't like the money they're given then they can be replaced. No one is making anyone do anything they don't want to do. These people are volunteers who comment off the backs of other outlets and give longer form op-eds.
I'm actually sick of seeing a lot of this type of shit shared by people on Twitter who think any of these sites carry any weight or have contacts or inside info because the site has a tidy UI AND header.
I'm sure some of those 300+ sites do have people doing good work. But again - they're still largely volunteers and the vast majority of the content is damaging to actual sports journalism because a large portion of their readers are to stupid to know the difference or care to know.
I don't get paid for my opinion that I originally agreed to give for free because I'm just that passionate about the team!
The higher ups are right. If these people don't like the money they're given then they can be replaced. No one is making anyone do anything they don't want to do. These people are volunteers who comment off the backs of other outlets and give longer form op-eds.
I'm actually sick of seeing a lot of this type of shit shared by people on Twitter who think any of these sites carry any weight or have contacts or inside info because the site has a tidy UI AND header.
I'm sure some of those 300+ sites do have people doing good work. But again - they're still largely volunteers and the vast majority of the content is damaging to actual sports journalism because a large portion of their readers are to stupid to know the difference or care to know.
Matt Moore had a lot to say about this a couple days ago. Boiled down to the money generally not being there, the extremely few standouts worth the money not getting it, and if SBNation went away, there would be that many fewer platforms for aspiring sports writers.
By GQman2121 Go To PostBoo fucking hoo.I think the point you're missing is that they are paid contractors (the Uber comparison is apt, but it's worse than that because Uber drivers will get paid for every pick up) at a very unreasonable low rate that are treated like full-time employees with SB Nation, and if they didn't contribute at the rate that SB Nation wanted them to, they would threaten to kick them off the platform.
I don't get paid for my opinion that I originally agreed to give for free because I'm just that passionate about the team!
The higher ups are right. If these people don't like the money they're given then they can be replaced. No one is making anyone do anything they don't want to do. These people are volunteers who comment off the backs of other outlets and give longer form op-eds.
I'm actually sick of seeing a lot of this type of shit shared by people on Twitter who think any of these sites carry any weight or have contacts or inside info because the site has a tidy UI AND header.
I'm sure some of those 300+ sites do have people doing good work. But again - they're still largely volunteers and the vast majority of the content is damaging to actual sports journalism because a large portion of their readers are to stupid to know the difference or care to know.
By GQman2121 Go To PostBoo fucking hoo.
I don't get paid for my opinion that I originally agreed to give for free because I'm just that passionate about the team!
The higher ups are right. If these people don't like the money they're given then they can be replaced. No one is making anyone do anything they don't want to do. These people are volunteers who comment off the backs of other outlets and give longer form op-eds.
I'm actually sick of seeing a lot of this type of shit shared by people on Twitter who think any of these sites carry any weight or have contacts or inside info because the site has a tidy UI AND header.
I'm sure some of those 300+ sites do have people doing good work. But again - they're still largely volunteers and the vast majority of the content is damaging to actual sports journalism because a large portion of their readers are to stupid to know the difference or care to know.
I don't think anyone is questioning the validity of the "journalism". You're right, most are simply op ed's that are worse than the sports threads on this site.
But when someone is making a billion dollars off of it, it becomes an issue. You're now profiting from free labor, regardless of the quality of the content.
If people want to read these long form op eds (and they DO), and you're making a shit load of money off of it (and they are), then pay people to do it and do it really well.
Also, the SB Nation policy itself states that contributors should be paid, and its in direct violation of their own policy when they are not. The "volunteer" label doesn't fit one bit.
With the money generated I can see the issue especially considering it is in violation of their own policy.
But again, if they say here's what we want from you; here's what we expect; and here's what you'll be paid. And then that person chooses to go along with those terms, then I don't see what the issue is. If they don't like it they can create their own platform to begin their sports writing career/hobby.
That sounds harsh as shit, but these sites (not all of them) are like one click on either side of the argument from someone at that other place expecting compensation for creating a popular OT for a new game release.
They need to unionize or maybe the popular sites need better negotiators to get contracts or incentive based goals. That would probably lead to absolute clickbait fuckery though.
But again, if they say here's what we want from you; here's what we expect; and here's what you'll be paid. And then that person chooses to go along with those terms, then I don't see what the issue is. If they don't like it they can create their own platform to begin their sports writing career/hobby.
That sounds harsh as shit, but these sites (not all of them) are like one click on either side of the argument from someone at that other place expecting compensation for creating a popular OT for a new game release.
They need to unionize or maybe the popular sites need better negotiators to get contracts or incentive based goals. That would probably lead to absolute clickbait fuckery though.
Awfulannouncing wrote about this
http://awfulannouncing.com/online-outlets/deadspin-sb-nation-bloggers-unpaid-pay.html
http://awfulannouncing.com/online-outlets/deadspin-sb-nation-bloggers-unpaid-pay.html
By GQman2121 Go To PostWith the money generated I can see the issue especially considering it is in violation of their own policy.
But again, if they say here's what we want from you; here's what we expect; and here's what you'll be paid. And then that person chooses to go along with those terms, then I don't see what the issue is. If they don't like it they can create their own platform to begin their sports writing career/hobby.
That sounds harsh as shit, but these sites (not all of them) are like one click on either side of the argument from someone at that other place expecting compensation for creating a popular OT for a new game release.
They need to unionize or maybe the popular sites need better negotiators to get contracts or incentive based goals. That would probably lead to absolute clickbait fuckery though.
You're right and wrong. In pure capitalism, that's how it works. But there are protections put in place for minimum pay (or should be) that are skirted by contracting etc etc. When you're making a billion dollars off of those people, regardless how you want to think about them, they're now your employee's.
They'll say this is about loyal fans creating fan content. But when you start emailing them and setting minimum levels of hours worked, articles published, page clicks etc. You're not asking for just pure fan op ed content.
Take Uber as a counter example. Uber (and any other transport company) has obligations put on them by governments to cover fatigue management. Pure capitalism says, if the guy wants to work a 120 hour week, let him! But that's a bad idea for all involved.
I haven't read any of hte other articles posted here. So i'm just talking from what's been listed. But i think it's a lot more complicated than "If you don't like it walk away".
I'm sympathetic to their situation. But then you read stuff like this...
...and yeah, that sounds like they're clear on what the deal is and know that the market is pretty competitive for this type of content.
I definitely don't think they're paid what they're worth; however, what they're worth likely isn't what they might think it is either.
There's a common ground that can be worked out here but it's definitely murky waters for all involved.
By diehard Go To PostAwfulannouncing wrote about this
http://awfulannouncing.com/online-outlets/deadspin-sb-nation-bloggers-unpaid-pay.html
You might ask, why stay in a gig that doesn’t make you 100 percent happy? Well, why do any of us stay in gigs that don’t make us 100 percent happy? The New York Times wasn’t knocking on my door. No one was. Sometimes you do what you gotta do until the opportunities strike, and then you take care of yourself.
...and yeah, that sounds like they're clear on what the deal is and know that the market is pretty competitive for this type of content.
I definitely don't think they're paid what they're worth; however, what they're worth likely isn't what they might think it is either.
There's a common ground that can be worked out here but it's definitely murky waters for all involved.