In terms of gaf, its getting to the point where no-one who has an actual alternate political view posts anything because, its pointless, you get eaten alive. Whats happening now is that political threads are exercises in groups eating people who are on their side and who can post the most reactionary one to two word response to "insert what trump did today" news.
I dont like Trump, I think he is a terrible president, I think most of what he is doing within the law shouldnt be within the law in the first place, but the number of misinformation, lies, slander I read which is justified under the guise that "We are in civil war" or "Well the right do worse" is mind numbing.
I dont like Trump, I think he is a terrible president, I think most of what he is doing within the law shouldnt be within the law in the first place, but the number of misinformation, lies, slander I read which is justified under the guise that "We are in civil war" or "Well the right do worse" is mind numbing.
By s y Go To PostIsn't 7 years the better part of a decade?Yeah. Lore's wording (even if it was 6 years) sort of covers it, but it's not really been a decade, or really, close to it.
Though, on the internet, time feels very different.
Personally, have little intention of reading a graphic police report. That guy was never really worth that much time /effort.
By Grizzled Cola Go To PostIn terms of gaf, its getting to the point where no-one who has an actual alternate political view posts anything because, its pointless, you get eaten alive. Whats happening now is that political threads are exercises in groups eating people who are on their side and who can post the most reactionary one to two word response to "insert what trump did today" news.
I dont like Trump, I think he is a terrible president, I think most of what he is doing within the law shouldnt be within the law in the first place, but the number of misinformation, lies, slander I read which is justified under the guise that "We are in civil war" or "Well the right do worse" is mind numbing.
This is a huge issue.
Every time a new "Trump is being investigated" report comes out, every fucking post after the OP is a derivative of "oh shi!", "here we go!", "it's happening", "nice to know you, orange fuck", etc. Every one immediately assumes the stupidest report about a Trump transgression is a sure fire win that will have the cunt gone.
Most of the OT also doesn't know the difference between murder and manslaughter.
And mentioning Israel brings out a certain 5 people who are low-key anti-semites. Without fail.
My activity on the forum has gotten so thin, that in an 'OG GAFers' thread, someone asked whatever happened to me, and that I disappeared. LOL. Until someone told him I'm around, just always in one thread (my Automotive thread)
By RATHasReturned Go To PostYou would hope that part of the investigation includes interviewing Tyler. He shouldn't be able to get away with such a stupid thread ending post like that.It is kinda crazy there's no open thread about it or even a sticky. Just a statement after the new thread was locked and I'm guessing most people didn't see it.
By giririsss Go To PostYeah. Lore's wording (even if it was 6 years) sort of covers it, but it's not really been a decade, or really, close to it.Yeah, of all the things to point out, that seems like the most inconsequential.
Though, on the internet, time feels very different.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostThis is a huge issue.The current immigration issue is hilarious to me because it is clear no-one read the initial ruling, now there are two issues
Every time a new "Trump is being investigated" report comes out, every fucking post after the OP is a derivative of "oh shi!", "here we go!", "it's happening", "nice to know you, orange fuck", etc. Every one immediately assumes the stupidest report about a Trump transgression is a sure fire win that will have the cunt gone.
Most of the OT also doesn't know the difference between murder and manslaughter.
And mentioning Israel brings out a certain 5 people who are low-key anti-semites. Without fail.
My activity on the forum has gotten so thin, that in an 'OG GAFers' thread, someone asked whatever happened to me, and that I disappeared. LOL. Until someone told him I'm around, just always in one thread (my Automotive thread)
a) Can he restrict immigration from countries, is it within his power
b) Should he have that power
And I had to read pages and pages of the thread where people were conflating the two issues and deciding that, because they hated what he was doing he cant have the power to do it.
I read the ruling, I read the legal basis for it, and, lo and behold, its legal and was upheld in principle by SCOTUS, though it will be reviewed in October, and will be ratified then too I am sure.
So I find out its legal and go and post to that effect and get
i) Accused of supporting his decision, which I dont
ii) Accused of cherry picking, which I didnt, its a very simple power, it has precedent
iii) Accused of defending Trump, when I am actually just defending the office of the presidency.
So in an argument where I am right I am currently defending 3 positions against people who not only have not read anything about the powers the president has, but dont care to read it and would prefer to paint me as a racist for pointing out something they could find with a 30s google search.
This honestly makes me think of what the current mods think (or at least the ones who haven't said something on Twitter already).
By cashman Go To PostEvilore has also run off a few women posters himselfRIP Anti-Monitor
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostHe banned people for simply playing Devil's Advocate (ignoring their actual post history of having an entirely differing opinion in reality).Bish was a bigger than life persona... kind of a mix of Santa and the boogieman of sorts for the boards.
He banned people for having general opinions or concisely written opinions, and avoided banning those who misinterpreted those opinions and replied with swears and insults.
He banned hordes of people for disliking games he worked on - people with genuine opinions (many of which aligned with the consensus that they sucked). Those people also had no idea that bishoptl = Tim Lewinson. I believe he was especially defensive of the Warhammer games at one point moons ago. But there were other projects since, and if someone mis-spoke about them…it's like he had some sort of alert system setup and banned them.
those things you listed were pretty much his role for the forum.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Posteh neogaf is hardly exclusive to being one sided in regards to political discourse
This too.
All of those criticisms are true as well, but they're also true of a lot of echo chambers.
On the whole, GAF is probably less awful relatively speaking, but it still is mostly awful. What makes it a different kind of annoying is how convinced so many people are that it is actually not just an echo chamber with different inflection points, but some sort of bastion for intelligent discourse and superior moderation that sets it above. Which leads to a rich culture of circle jerking while engaging in many of the same underlying behaviors you will find on any number of right-wing or left-wing echo chambers.
By Professor Beef Go To PostThis honestly makes me think of what the current mods think (or at least the ones who haven't said something on Twitter already).Is that one of the accounts he deleted?
RIP Anti-Monitor
I remember trying to tell people that Community side is far better than the main pages since all you get is drive-by comments and echo chambers, and all I got was laughter and years-old "community = graveyard" comments.
Can't help people who don't want it.
Can't help people who don't want it.
By Jonm Go To PostThis too.
All of those criticisms are true as well, but they're also true of a lot of echo chambers.
On the whole, GAF is probably less awful relatively speaking, but it still is mostly awful. What makes it a different kind of annoying is how convinced so many people are that it is actually not just an echo chamber with different inflection points, but some sort of bastion for intelligent discourse and superior moderation that sets it above. Which leads to a rich culture of circle jerking while engaging in many of the same underlying behaviors you will find on any number of right-wing or left-wing echo chambers.
Poligaf, for me, doesn't fit this bill. Benji is like super super libertarian and he's supremely loved there. The OT on the other hand ....
By Professor Beef Go To PostI remember trying to tell people that Community side is far better than the main pages since all you get is drive-by comments and echo chambers, and all I got was laughter and years-old "community = graveyard" comments.These are the people who are afraid of doing anything but drive by posting.
Can't help people who don't want it.
By Jonm Go To PostThis too.That's the thing I find so ridiculous. Some Gaffers think they're somehow above Reddit, Gamefaqs etc and even visiting any similar sites would be beneath them.
All of those criticisms are true as well, but they're also true of a lot of echo chambers.
On the whole, GAF is probably less awful relatively speaking, but it still is mostly awful. What makes it a different kind of annoying is how convinced so many people are that it is actually not just an echo chamber with different inflection points, but some sort of bastion for intelligent discourse and superior moderation that sets it above. Which leads to a rich culture of circle jerking while engaging in many of the same underlying behaviors you will find on any number of right-wing or left-wing echo chambers.
By n8 dogg Go To PostDebate for another day, but I do think that there needs to be more help offered to people that find themselves sexually attracted to children. It's probably the biggest area in which Thought Police volunteers find themselves in action and doing everything they can to chastise.
Obviously people that practice it and act on their urges are deplorable, but one can't naturally help being attracted to children any more than I can women, gay people can their own sex etcetera. Needs to be a little more understanding and dialogue at some point, I would hope. But that starts with the person feeling that way admitting it and seeking help.
I whole heartedly agree with this. But according to Gaf it's "low key humanizing pedophiles" and taking such a soft stance implicates you as a latent pedophile yourself. No joke.
By Professor Beef Go To PostI remember trying to tell people that Community side is far better than the main pages since all you get is drive-by comments and echo chambers, and all I got was laughter and years-old "community = graveyard" comments.
Can't help people who don't want it.
Real talk this is something, I hold this rule/saying dear to my time on GAF.
Only threads I keep up with is BCT, a few gaming series and that one jazz-hop thread.
Only time I fuck with gaming side is for an OT for a game I'm playing and I wanna ask questions or tips. Game news is hit or miss depending on the topic.
Everything else over there can rot tho
By Jonm Go To PostThis too.This is kind of the reason I stopped reading most OT threads on GAF. You would think people would be more open to be challenged, but almost any political thread is just one narrative being towed while shouting down any slightly different views. There was a thread about someone experiencing racism in Bulgaria that was a prime example of the group think and suppression of actual discussion that seems to regularly occur there.
All of those criticisms are true as well, but they're also true of a lot of echo chambers.
On the whole, GAF is probably less awful relatively speaking, but it still is mostly awful. What makes it a different kind of annoying is how convinced so many people are that it is actually not just an echo chamber with different inflection points, but some sort of bastion for intelligent discourse and superior moderation that sets it above. Which leads to a rich culture of circle jerking while engaging in many of the same underlying behaviors you will find on any number of right-wing or left-wing echo chambers.
Not sure if it actually was any better, but it sure does feel like when they became more relaxed with approving new members the quality of the site went down.
By Jonm Go To PostThis too.
All of those criticisms are true as well, but they're also true of a lot of echo chambers.
On the whole, GAF is probably less awful relatively speaking, but it still is mostly awful. What makes it a different kind of annoying is how convinced so many people are that it is actually not just an echo chamber with different inflection points, but some sort of bastion for intelligent discourse and superior moderation that sets it above. Which leads to a rich culture of circle jerking while engaging in many of the same underlying behaviors you will find on any number of right-wing or left-wing echo chambers.
You would think Trump winning the election and Democrats getting smashed nearly everywhere would shake them back into reality, but if anything liberal-GAF has only gone further down the rabbit hole.
Spent the better part of the day trying to decide how petty I wanted to be when my topic about Bish got shut down, and here we are now with a "Slaent-tell-all" behind-the-scenes thread. For all the criticism of GAF, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I mean, you have at least two mods here that were mods there. It's in your DNA.
As far as the primary subjectmatter of this topic, well, the world's gonna ride that slippery slope of sexual immorality all the way to hell, "paved with good intentions," so the outrage when someone delves into something (still) considered taboo is akin to dramatic irony. And that's all I have to say on that.
RIP Mumei. Wish I could ask what they thought about Colson Whitehead's Underground Railroad as well as WGN's production Underground.
As far as the primary subjectmatter of this topic, well, the world's gonna ride that slippery slope of sexual immorality all the way to hell, "paved with good intentions," so the outrage when someone delves into something (still) considered taboo is akin to dramatic irony. And that's all I have to say on that.
RIP Mumei. Wish I could ask what they thought about Colson Whitehead's Underground Railroad as well as WGN's production Underground.
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostSpent the better part of the day trying to decide how petty I wanted to be when my topic about Bish got shut down, and here we are now with a "Slaent-tell-all" behind-the-scenes thread. For all the criticism of GAF, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I mean, you have at least two mods here that were mods there. It's in your DNA.
As far as the primary subjectmatter of this topic, well, the world's gonna ride that slippery slope of sexual immorality all the way to hell, "paved with good intentions," so the outrage when someone delves into something (still) considered taboo is akin to dramatic irony. And that's all I have to say on that.
RIP Mumei. Wish I could ask what they thought about Colson Whitehead's Underground Railroad as well as WGN's production Underground.
The only GAF mod we have as a current mod is Blackace AFAIK. There are other former mods around on the site, but none of them are mods here.
This thread was only created to get the topic out of several other sub threads, and to not pollute those threads with this stuff. This WAS going to be talked about. And we don't feel comfortable policing thoughts. So This was created as a way to discuss it and keep it in one place.
But we're generally not THE site for anti-gaf-gossip, and we don't want to be. We don't really want to live in the past. Once the Amir0x stuff dies down, we'll be back to normal.
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostSpent the better part of the day trying to decide how petty I wanted to be when my topic about Bish got shut down, and here we are now with a "Slaent-tell-all" behind-the-scenes thread.
This is a whole different thing. The Bish stuff was on the level of forum drama at another site. This is a guy who everybody here knows making the news for a major crime that runs the chance of him getting shanked in jail. If it's in the news it's gotta be fair game. And since everybody knows him as a former mod who seemingly spent his whole life there, the way that site is moderated is going to come up as a natural part of the conversation.
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostSpent the better part of the day trying to decide how petty I wanted to be when my topic about Bish got shut down, and here we are now with a "Slaent-tell-all" behind-the-scenes thread. For all the criticism of GAF, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I mean, you have at least two mods here that were mods there. It's in your DNA.
the fuck is pr talking about
Was about to ask this exact same question.
Spent the better part of the day trying to decide how petty I wanted to be when my topic about Bish got shut down, and here we are now with a "Slaent-tell-all" behind-the-scenes thread.
I mean one thing is almost national news and the other was gossip.. but hey take offense to it..
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostAs far as the primary subjectmatter of this topic, well, the world's gonna ride that slippery slope of sexual immorality all the way to hell, "paved with good intentions," so the outrage when someone delves into something (still) considered taboo is akin to dramatic irony. And that's all I have to say on that.
Wat
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostSpent the better part of the day trying to decide how petty I wanted to be when my topic about Bish got shut down, and here we are now with a "Slaent-tell-all" behind-the-scenes thread. For all the criticism of GAF, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I mean, you have at least two mods here that were mods there. It's in your DNA.
As far as the primary subjectmatter of this topic, well, the world's gonna ride that slippery slope of sexual immorality all the way to hell, "paved with good intentions," so the outrage when someone delves into something (still) considered taboo is akin to dramatic irony. And that's all I have to say on that.
RIP Mumei. Wish I could ask what they thought about Colson Whitehead's Underground Railroad as well as WGN's production Underground.
Damn, breh. You been eatin saltines?
There are key differences that you're failing to realize. Blackace, back in the GAF days, was a mod that let shit slide all the time. That was his ultimate demise as a mod on GAF, and one of the reasons why we're here. Think about that. Other mods got booted for being raging psychos. Blackace got booted for being chill and laid back.
The second difference is that I can tell all of the mods here to eat a dick, and not get banned for it. I tell Reilo to fuck himself on a weekly (sometimes daily) basis, because he insists on laughing at Knick fuckery via text messages. In other forums, if you so much as politely disagree with a mod, you're banned.
Having said that, Blackace's point about this being major news basically means this post will thread out into all sorts of discussion about Amirox, GAF, et al.
By Fenderputty Go To PostWatYeah, I had to read that part over a few times because WTF
By Perfect Blue Go To PostYeah, I had to read that part over a few times because WTF
Like it's a shame he tried to GAF shame the mods because that's a ducking doozy
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostSpent the better part of the day trying to decide how petty I wanted to be when my topic about Bish got shut down, and here we are now with a "Slaent-tell-all" behind-the-scenes thread. For all the criticism of GAF, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I mean, you have at least two mods here that were mods there. It's in your DNA.
As far as the primary subjectmatter of this topic, well, the world's gonna ride that slippery slope of sexual immorality all the way to hell, "paved with good intentions," so the outrage when someone delves into something (still) considered taboo is akin to dramatic irony. And that's all I have to say on that.
RIP Mumei. Wish I could ask what they thought about Colson Whitehead's Underground Railroad as well as WGN's production Underground.
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostDamn, breh. You been eatin saltines?I tried to be chill but that's not got me demodded... It was because I was one the few who actually went in the mod forum and stood-up for users...
There are key differences that you're failing to realize. Blackace, back in the GAF days, was a mod that let shit slide all the time. That was his ultimate demise as a mod on GAF, and one of the reasons why we're here. Think about that. Other mods got booted for being raging psychos. Blackace got booted for being chill and laid back.
The second difference is that I can tell all of the mods here to eat a dick, and not get banned for it. I tell Reilo to fuck himself on a weekly (sometimes daily) basis, because he insists on laughing at Knick fuckery via text messages. In other forums, if you so much as politely disagree with a mod, you're banned.
Having said that, Blackace's point about this being major news basically means this post will thread out into all sorts of discussion about Amirox, GAF, et al.
even done it here... it's funny how quickly trying to help is forgotten
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostSpent the better part of the day trying to decide how petty I wanted to be when my topic about Bish got shut down, and here we are now with a "Slaent-tell-all" behind-the-scenes thread. For all the criticism of GAF, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I mean, you have at least two mods here that were mods there. It's in your DNA.
As far as the primary subjectmatter of this topic, well, the world's gonna ride that slippery slope of sexual immorality all the way to hell, "paved with good intentions," so the outrage when someone delves into something (still) considered taboo is akin to dramatic irony. And that's all I have to say on that.
RIP Mumei. Wish I could ask what they thought about Colson Whitehead's Underground Railroad as well as WGN's production Underground.
You can ask here https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/5176290-mumei
lol this is the same forum that let 3sided pick fights with posters for months before finally telling him to leave. People are given a lot of rope. Most of us are adults with families and careers who'd just like to sit around and shoot the shit. It's not that serious and it shouldn't be.
I mainly read GAF for a few topics and for thread backfires.
Just like all things it has its bad parts, but most of the forum is good.
The only part I can't stand is the 'know it alls'. If you post in some threads they will just shut you down because they think they are a bigger fan than you and if your opinion disagrees with theirs then they will write up a whole essay on why you are wrong.
Just like all things it has its bad parts, but most of the forum is good.
The only part I can't stand is the 'know it alls'. If you post in some threads they will just shut you down because they think they are a bigger fan than you and if your opinion disagrees with theirs then they will write up a whole essay on why you are wrong.
I think anything should be alllowed except for posts that hurt the ad revenue, posts that are straight illegal, or flatout harassment.
By Shanks D Zoro Go To PostI think anything should be alllowed except for posts that hurt the ad revenue, posts that are straight illegal, or flatout harassment.
i only browse gaf for news now, the actual posts on most threads are complete garbage or the same idea repeated with different words
GAFers just take posts from Reddit or Wario/Zhuge tweets. Why deal with a middleman? Just go straight to the source
By RobNBanks Go To PostGAFers just take posts from Reddit or Wario/Zhuge tweets. Why deal with a middleman? Just go straight to the sourceHaving a news aggregate is sweet. I can't bother with going to several sites all the time.
By HasphatsAnts Go To Postlol this is the same forum that let 3sided pick fights with posters for months before finally telling him to leave. People are given a lot of rope. Most of us are adults with families and careers who'd just like to sit around and shoot the shit. It's not that serious and it shouldn't be.
Sure...3SP was difficult in some ways. But this is the only forum that didn't ban Reirom in 24 hours. He was here for months...
I flat out wrote two new features to keep reirom at bay and make his post readable/palpatable as much as that was possible lol
By AlphaSnacks Go To PostSure…3SP was difficult in some ways. But this is the only forum that didn't ban Reirom in 24 hours. He was here for months…
lol yeah. early days of slaent was wild.
By Adam Blade Go To PostTemp forum days.servers crashing every time deandre missed a free throw. what a time.
Whew.
By HasphatsAnts Go To Postservers crashing every time deandre missed a free throw. what a time.
2014, dark days...
By Adam Blade Go To Post2014, dark days…
They were great days Adama. GREAT!
Straight PHPBB is a blessing.