By FortuneFaded Go To PostThey are a married couple who are still together.Oh. Then it's even weirder you chose to bring it up. It's a not uncommon phrasing.
By Fenderputty Go To PostThat transracial video had me rolling.Its from Atlanta. Great show, only one season so far.
I don't understand academic Marxists. Everybody's freaking out any time anyone says the word fascism. But when it comes to the thing that systematically produced several of the worst horrors in human history it's like "the Killing Fields and the Cultural Revolution and the Red Terror and the Great Leap Forward and Stalin's gulags and the Kim Dynasty putting babies in concentration camps could have happened to anybody. Let's talk about the exploitative oppression of unpaid overtime. "
Today I saw a banner saying "save North Korea from imperialism!" And I'm like, can't we just let the imperialists have this one?
Today I saw a banner saying "save North Korea from imperialism!" And I'm like, can't we just let the imperialists have this one?
Don't most academic marxists believe true socialism has yet to be tried? Communism is the evolution of the socialist system, so likewise
Edit: I can't unsee the profile of a face on that mans belly
Edit: I can't unsee the profile of a face on that mans belly
By Fenderputty Go To PostDon't most academic marxists believe true socialism has yet to be tried? Communism is the evolution of the socialist system, so likewise
Yes, nobody ever achieved true communism, on account of it makes zero account for actual human psychology and has no real way to remain competitive within the context of a global society. As soon as Mao died China flat out gave up even trying.
Most of those disasters were the result of trying to reach communism, usually by suppressing'reactionary bourgeois elements'- ie. people who wore glasses or owned a book or something. They kept trying to murder their way to utopia. When half your population needs to be part of the secret police, your social policies might not actually be super practical.
It's just weird to me, everybody's so hysterical about the merest hint of oppression these days. People shout at each on twitter over what hat they're allowed to wear or Hawaii Five O actors not being rich enough. But when it comes to a system that produced dozens of actual recognized genocides, like everybody in critical theory is like "yeah but Vietnam tho. "
No I mean like communism has never been tried because it literally has never been tried. Marx predicted that it would be the evolution of a socialist system. We would not need money. There would be elements of anarchy and there would be no central government.
Most academic Marxist I've seen extend this out to socialism too. USSR, China, NK and Cuba are all bastardized versions. Hybrid authoritarian dictatorship mixed with socialized elements. The academic Marxist treats these this way to blunt the criticisms of socialism.
To be fair, didn't Marx himself predict that the rise of socialism would be the result of a massive decline in demand for labor due to tech advances? Could be a timing thing more than anything.
Most academic Marxist I've seen extend this out to socialism too. USSR, China, NK and Cuba are all bastardized versions. Hybrid authoritarian dictatorship mixed with socialized elements. The academic Marxist treats these this way to blunt the criticisms of socialism.
To be fair, didn't Marx himself predict that the rise of socialism would be the result of a massive decline in demand for labor due to tech advances? Could be a timing thing more than anything.
The earliest societies were Communism or Communalism, and has been tried most notably by religious communities more recently,
Communalism ... that's a new one for me. Thanks lol.
It does make sense on a smaller scope where communities are more tight nit. At a Macro level that same interconnectedness needs to exist before it would work and there hasn't been a catalyst to bring that about. Marx seemed to assume that once we transitioned into a socialized system we would eventually hit that stage.
It does make sense on a smaller scope where communities are more tight nit. At a Macro level that same interconnectedness needs to exist before it would work and there hasn't been a catalyst to bring that about. Marx seemed to assume that once we transitioned into a socialized system we would eventually hit that stage.
Social Democracy is the future of government. Marxism is bullshit that doesn’t account for greed. Karl Marx was a racist piece of shit that never worked a hard day in his life and got by on large loans from his rich aristocratic friends.
Ferdinand Lassalle> Karl Marx all day
Ferdinand Lassalle> Karl Marx all day
By Apollo Go To PostSocial Democracy is the future of government. Marxism is bullshit that doesn’t account for greed.
Social Democracy is where it's at, currently. We're not a post scarcity society. When we are, greed won't matter. We'll either ALL be revolting against the few who control everything or we will have successfully transitioned into this automated utopia by heavily controlling greed on the way there (we're not controlling greed well currently)
I'm not a socialist. I just think technology will force our hand sooner than most.
By Fenderputty Go To PostCommunalism … that's a new one for me. Thanks lol.
It's a thing in the East. And Africa.
West be like **** you, got mine!
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostAlso, **** FMLA.The Family and Medical Leave Act?
By Fenderputty Go To PostNo I mean like communism has never been tried because it literally has never been tried. Marx predicted that it would be the evolution of a socialist system. We would not need money. There would be elements of anarchy and there would be no central government.
Most academic Marxist I've seen extend this out to socialism too. USSR, China, NK and Cuba are all bastardized versions. Hybrid authoritarian dictatorship mixed with socialized elements. The academic Marxist treats these this way to blunt the criticisms of socialism.
To be fair, didn't Marx himself predict that the rise of socialism would be the result of a massive decline in demand for labor due to tech advances? Could be a timing thing more than anything.
Yeah, that's what I was saying but didn't elucidate all the way. China, USSR etc. were very aware that they were a particular brand of socialists trying to move towards communism but hadn't achieved it (heck, the USSR put it right in their name). There were lots of intense governmental debates around this and what to do about it; they kept resorting to brutal suppressive methods when propaganda didn't do the job.
Which is kind of the point, unless you can make selfless utopia spontaneously spring out of the ground, you're going to keep coming to the same roadblocks. 'Communism' is a fantasy in this era of human development, that process of socialist radicals trying to take it all the way is the real thing we're talking about here.
And since their paradigm is literally called Conflict Theory and is constructed from a language of smash resist overthrow etc. that pins all of history's ills on a particular amorphous group, that process is going to keep going the same way.
By livefromkyoto Go To PostWhich is kind of the point, unless you can make selfless utopia spontaneously spring out of the ground, you're going to keep coming to the same roadblocks. 'Communism' is a fantasy in this era of human development, that process of socialist radicals trying to take it all the way is the real thing we're talking about here.
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People look at me like I'm a fucking loon for suggesting it, but I really believe technology will bring us into a post scarcity economy / society rather "soonish". It legit terrifies me. More so for my children than myself. I really believe it's gonna be bad. Not just "blue collar" work either. Accounting will be obsoleted before the construction worker. What sucks is that in theory, humanity reaching a post scarcity society should be good. It would free up time for everyone. We could all become more educated and complete persons while biological 3d printing, clean cheap fusion and automated services do everything for us.
In a hypothetical post scarcity society, what happens to the concept of "greed"?
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In a hypothetical post scarcity society, what happens to the concept of "greed"?
It gets spun out into ever more ridiculous status displays of various types. They just won't be predicated on material goods. We already see some of that in the elaborate virtue signalling that surrounds social justice debates. It'll be couched in terms of personal ethics, intelligence and creative capacity. It'll be obnoxious AF but better than people starving.
In a hypothetical post scarcity society, what happens to the concept of "greed"?
It gets spun out into ever more ridiculous status displays of various types. They just won't be predicated on material goods. We already see some of that in the elaborate virtue signalling that surrounds social justice debates. It'll be couched in terms of personal ethics, intelligence and creative capacity. It'll be obnoxious AF but better than people starving.
By Fenderputty Go To PostYeah what's wrong with the Family Medical Leave Act?
Lots and lots and lots of abuse.
New video game came out and you don't want to come to work? FMLA: Depression.
Didn't like your job assignment? FMLA: care for mother.
Did your seniority force you to get mandatory OT? FMLA: anxiety.
Company has a written policy that we can force TMs to use their PDO/VAC time when they call off FMLA, but because they're sissies, the "oral guideline" is that "Such a business practice does not conform to family core values."
But! They're going to begin denying holiday pay for TMs who call off FMLA during the holidays. The policy is, if you call off (not FMLA) a day before, during, and after a holiday, your holiday pay is canceled. This also applies to early departures (late arrivals adheres to the regular attendance policy, but what idiot comes to work late on a day that's 1.5x pay?). Folks with FMLA would use that instead of calling off to get the day off without using a VAC/PDO. NOW, they will be docked holiday pay if they FMLA OR call-off. This change was made after noticing a pattern of the same individuals using FMLA year after year after year on holidays.
Glad we're taking steps to fight this.
By Smokey Go To PostAm I the only one who hates ordering stuff online on a Friday?Only because I'm like "get here by Sunday, dammit!" even though I know that won't happen without overnighting something. :(
By Kibner Go To PostOnly because I'm like "get here by Sunday, dammit!" even though I know that won't happen without overnighting something. :(I got lucky and for some reason amazon gave me free 1 day shipping
By Kibner Go To PostOnly because I'm like "get here by Sunday, dammit!" even though I know that won't happen without overnighting something. :(
First world problems, but I hate it.
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostLots and lots and lots of abuse.
New video game came out and you don't want to come to work? FMLA: Depression.
Didn't like your job assignment? FMLA: care for mother.
Did your seniority force you to get mandatory OT? FMLA: anxiety.
Company has a written policy that we can force TMs to use their PDO/VAC time when they call off FMLA, but because they're sissies, the "oral guideline" is that "Such a business practice does not conform to family core values."
But! They're going to begin denying holiday pay for TMs who call off FMLA during the holidays. The policy is, if you call off (not FMLA) a day before, during, and after a holiday, your holiday pay is canceled. This also applies to early departures (late arrivals adheres to the regular attendance policy, but what idiot comes to work late on a day that's 1.5x pay?). Folks with FMLA would use that instead of calling off to get the day off without using a VAC/PDO. NOW, they will be docked holiday pay if they FMLA OR call-off. This change was made after noticing a pattern of the same individuals using FMLA year after year after year on holidays.
Glad we're taking steps to fight this.
You don't seem to understand what FMLA is?
You can't really claim abuse if medical records have to be procured in order to claim FMLA. Which they do. Do people have doctors come up with bunk claims, sure, but that's not FMLA's issue. That's corruption at a the doctors level. If you're company isn't requiring proper documentation for leave that's on your company.
FMLA doesn't do anything but keep your position safe while you're on leave and only for a year and only if you've been at the company a year anyway. It has nothing to do with payment what so ever. I will get paid for taking FMLA leave when my child is born. That's only because California is awesome though. The rest of the states force you to use your own PTO. I don't get paid by FMLA directly, I get disability that California has set aside for child bonding. If someone has an FMLA claim, they're completely capable of using disability too. Nothing your company policy can do to prevent that. Any time not covered by disability would need to be covered by PTO. There's a one week waiting period in California to collect disability and FMLA doesn't pay me shit. I have to use PTO.
Maybe your company used to offer paid medical leave and changed that. Not sure. That still wouldn't be an FMLA issue, that would be a company issue. Same with your holiday cancellation policy. Company issue.
All FMLA does is protect your position for a year if you need leave. That's it.
communism will never work but true capitalism is also a terrible idea, its only by taking parts of both that society should move forward
By Xpike Go To Postcommunism will never work but true capitalism is also a terrible idea, its only by taking parts of both that society should move forward
absolutes are silly. At one point we all thought feudalism was the only way forward and accepted that as fact too. We change and evolve and so does our world around us. ONe things is for sure though. It doesn't work now. At all.
You don't understand my post.
You're talking about what FMLA is supposed to be used for. I'm talking about what it's used for in reality. The bunk attendance policy doesn't help either.
I already had this discussion with our FMLA adjuster, HR, and ILM this week, which is why I posted about it. Company is content with taking an L with garbage employees for the sake of retention.
Can't wait to see what happens around Thanksgiving.
You're talking about what FMLA is supposed to be used for. I'm talking about what it's used for in reality. The bunk attendance policy doesn't help either.
I already had this discussion with our FMLA adjuster, HR, and ILM this week, which is why I posted about it. Company is content with taking an L with garbage employees for the sake of retention.
Can't wait to see what happens around Thanksgiving.
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostYou don't understand my post.
You're talking about what FMLA is supposed to be used for. I'm talking about what it's used for in reality.
I understood your post quite clearly. Your hate is misplaced. You should be upset at your company's policies along with whatever medical professionals that follow along with bunk claims so they can make a dollar. FMLA can't do a damn thing about that. You also showed a lack of understanding of what it does
Folks with FMLA would use that instead of calling off to get the day off without using a VAC/PDO
That isn't possible. Unless they're going a day without pay or your company is paying them for approved medical leave. Or they're getting disability from the state. Which again, would be on your company for documentation.
FMLA is absolutely necessary worker protection policy and has nothing to do with payment. It just protects your job from being filled while you're gone. That's it.
ALSO ... if you're company is so hard up about retention and is letting people get away with stuff, you should be demanding more than a 3% raise or telling them to fuck off. No joke mang.
By Apollo Go To Postthe greatest "oh, hi" wave i've ever seen
The thought of a Marmite sandwich makes me feel a bit sick, but Marmite on toast on bloody delicious
In Austin with wifey. So much potential around here, whew. Wife like her glasses are cute, she was cute. She was cute huh?
Me: iono I didn't see her
Never fall for it brehs . It's lowkey a test being masked by her acknowledgement first. Answer truthfully if you want to lol
Me: iono I didn't see her
Never fall for it brehs . It's lowkey a test being masked by her acknowledgement first. Answer truthfully if you want to lol
By Smokey Go To PostIn Austin with wifey. So much potential around here, whew. Wife like her glasses are cute, she was cute. She was cute huh?never fall for that....ever..
Me: iono I didn't see her
Never fall for it brehs . It's lowkey a test being masked by her acknowledgement first. Answer truthfully if you want to lol
By livefromkyoto Go To PostI don't understand academic Marxists.Clearly. Most aren't self-described 'communists' (though the c-word has been making a bit of a revival since the 2008 crash). They're Marxists because they adhere to, expand upon, or otherwise derive influence from Marx's vast work on the capitalist mode of production, the class system, the world market, etc. They're intellectually inspired by him, even if they aren't about to go man the cannons.
By flinbad the flailer Go To PostClearly. Most aren't self-described 'communists' (though the c-word has been making a bit of a revival since the 2008 crash). They're Marxists because they adhere to, expand upon, or otherwise derive influence from Marx's vast work on the capitalist mode of production, the class system, the world market, etc. They're intellectually inspired by him, even if they aren't about to go man the cannons.
My critical theory professor dresses like a Maoist, goes into shamanic trances ranting about (granted, plausibly true) politico-corporate conspiracies in the academy, and is spending the first three weeks in a course on Asia making us do group presentations on the Manifesto and the writings of Lenin (I am procrastinating on finishing up 'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism' which I have to present Wednesday as I type this). When the great proletarian revolution in the West finally comes, I have little doubt he will be on the front lines tamping the gunpowder.
Listening to a new podcast this morning called Sword and Scale. Show about True crime stories. First episode I picked was episode 78.
Fuck
I cant even describe what thks episode is about without ending up on some FBI list.
Fuck
I cant even describe what thks episode is about without ending up on some FBI list.
By livefromkyoto Go To PostMy critical theory professor dresses like a Maoist, goes into shamanic trances ranting about (granted, plausibly true) politico-corporate conspiracies in the academy, and is spending the first three weeks in a course on Asia making us do group presentations on the Manifesto and the writings of Lenin (I am procrastinating on finishing up 'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism' which I have to present Wednesday as I type this). When the great proletarian revolution in the West finally comes, I have little doubt he will be on the front lines tamping the gunpowder.Your professor might be exceptional, but beginning such a course with the Manifesto and Lenin isn't. Depending on the topic and time period studied, it might even be academically dubious not to. It's Asia, where vast swathes were ruled by self-described Marxists (the former Soviet republics, mainland China, Vietnam, Cambodia, North Korea, etc) or influenced or otherwise affected by international communism/socialism (Taiwan, India, South Korea, Nepal - really, the entire continent).
By Fenderputty Go To PostI understood your post quite clearly. Your hate is misplaced. You should be upset at your company's policies along with whatever medical professionals that follow along with bunk claims so they can make a dollar. FMLA can't do a **** thing about that. You also showed a lack of understanding of what it does.
The crooked doctors are notorious around here. There's no question about that. But cooked doctors do not impact production. TMs who have a get-out-of-jail-free card do. So that's who I'm going to blame.
I'm not going to go over "how FMLA works" again. It wasn't even necessary the first time.
That isn't possible. Unless they're going a day without pay or your company is paying them for approved medical leave. Or they're getting disability from the state. Which again, would be on your company for documentation.
FMLA is absolutely necessary worker protection policy and has nothing to do with payment. It just protects your job from being filled while you're gone. That's it.
My company offers holiday pay. This means that regardless if you are scheduled to work, you get an "extra" day of fringe time every holiday. So if you work on Thanksgiving, or not, the typical employee gets 8 hours automatically on their paycheck. If they work on Thanksgiving, they will get that extra 8 hours of pay in addition to 1.5x wage the entire day. What does that come out to? 2.5x for working on a holiday?
Now if I schedule you to work, but you call off sick, I can cancel your holiday pay. We could not do that if you called in FMLA. That's what I mean by abuse. That policy is now changing. We're going to start canceling holiday pay for any call-offs around holidays. The explanation they're rolling with is to eliminate the illusion of favoritism.
ALSO … if you're company is so hard up about retention and is letting people get away with stuff, you should be demanding more than a 3% raise or telling them to **** off. No joke mang.
Our bargaining unit staff have a set schedule as per their contract. So "maxed out" TMs will make $20.20 in 2016, $20.70 in 2017, $21.20 in 2018, and $21.70 in 2019. The average hourly wage for them is $18-something. New people start at $11.82 and get a bump up to $12.51 and $13.39 after their first 400/400 hours worked. After that, they get a bump every 800 hours until they're "maxed." If you're a blue collar never-gonna-do-anything-else-in-your-life kind of person, I think that is a great payrate.
3% flat rate for raises applies to leadership, not team members. Initial salaries are negotiated.