Rugby |OT| The one where everyone hates England
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I have no idea how many people on here care about rugby, but for those of us who do, here's a thread to discuss it in. For our American friends, who are used to playing the world's second most interesting contact sport, there's a brief outline of the rules below. Please note, I am talking here about Rugby Union, the more popular variant. Rugby League has its own entirely different set of rules. Scotland for Six Nations champions!
Some sites of interest:
International:
ESPN's rugby site: ESPN Scrum
General Rugby blog / news site Rugby Dump
Domestic sites for AU / Super Rugby:
Foxsports AU
Rugby Heaven
How do you play rugby?
At its core, rugby is similar to American Football. You have an oval shaped ball. You have a pitch. You have to get the ball to the other end. However, there are a few key differences.
1) You can't throw the ball forward.
2) The game is 2 halves of 40 minutes each, and play only stops when the ball goes out or an offence is committed.
3) The game doesn't stop when someone is tackled. Instead, a ruck forms, where both sides try to make sure they get the ball. There are about a million rules about this, which I won't even try and explain here.
4) Due to the fact that the ball is contested in the tackle, rugby has a lot more kicking in order to get good field position.
The scoring system for Rugby Union is as follows:
5 points for a try (when you get the ball to the other teams in goal area and touch it down.)
2 points for a conversion (a kick at goal taken after a try is scored, from in line with where the ball was grounded.)
3 points for a penalty (a kick taken at goal after the other team has committed an offence.
3 points for a drop goal (a kick taken at goal out of hand during open play).
A rugby pitch looks a bit like this:
What are the positions?
Rugby has 15 players per side. The players on a team are broken down into two separate groups, the pack/forwards and the backs. Generally speaking, the pack consists of larger, more physical players who are equivalent to defensive lineman in American football. The backs are usually the faster, more maneuverable players comparable to the backfield and receivers in American football. Jersey numbers 1-8 represent pack players, and 9-15 are the backs. The diagram below illustrates the breakdown of the fifteen separate positions on the field of play:
Set pieces and offences
There are 3 set pieces you need to be aware of:
1) A scrum: This is generally given for unintentional offences (e.g. dropping the ball forward). This is where both packs push against each other, and the ball is fed into the middle for them to try and win by hooking it back with their feet. For a demonstration from a EA sports game from 10 years ago, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFXHRb-kHt8
2) A penalty: These are generally given for deliberate offences.The team who is awarded the penalty have the choice to kick at goal, run with the ball, have the put in to a scrum, or kick the ball out for a line out.
3 )A line out: These happen when the ball goes off the side of the pitch. One of the forwards throws the ball in, and both sets of forwards try to catch it. The throw goes against the side who knocked the ball out, i.e. if team A kicked it out, team B throws in (unless it was kicked out from a penalty, in which case team A throws in). For another incredible simulation of this, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkgINT70gCI
And those are the basics (unless I've missed anything) :)
Personally, I'm a long time Saracens/Scotland fan. It would be great to see anyone interested in rugby post in here! It's a fun game, and fairly easy to learn (mostly anyway)!
Some sites of interest:
International:
ESPN's rugby site: ESPN Scrum
General Rugby blog / news site Rugby Dump
Domestic sites for AU / Super Rugby:
Foxsports AU
Rugby Heaven
How do you play rugby?
At its core, rugby is similar to American Football. You have an oval shaped ball. You have a pitch. You have to get the ball to the other end. However, there are a few key differences.
1) You can't throw the ball forward.
2) The game is 2 halves of 40 minutes each, and play only stops when the ball goes out or an offence is committed.
3) The game doesn't stop when someone is tackled. Instead, a ruck forms, where both sides try to make sure they get the ball. There are about a million rules about this, which I won't even try and explain here.
4) Due to the fact that the ball is contested in the tackle, rugby has a lot more kicking in order to get good field position.
The scoring system for Rugby Union is as follows:
5 points for a try (when you get the ball to the other teams in goal area and touch it down.)
2 points for a conversion (a kick at goal taken after a try is scored, from in line with where the ball was grounded.)
3 points for a penalty (a kick taken at goal after the other team has committed an offence.
3 points for a drop goal (a kick taken at goal out of hand during open play).
A rugby pitch looks a bit like this:
What are the positions?
Rugby has 15 players per side. The players on a team are broken down into two separate groups, the pack/forwards and the backs. Generally speaking, the pack consists of larger, more physical players who are equivalent to defensive lineman in American football. The backs are usually the faster, more maneuverable players comparable to the backfield and receivers in American football. Jersey numbers 1-8 represent pack players, and 9-15 are the backs. The diagram below illustrates the breakdown of the fifteen separate positions on the field of play:
Set pieces and offences
There are 3 set pieces you need to be aware of:
1) A scrum: This is generally given for unintentional offences (e.g. dropping the ball forward). This is where both packs push against each other, and the ball is fed into the middle for them to try and win by hooking it back with their feet. For a demonstration from a EA sports game from 10 years ago, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFXHRb-kHt8
2) A penalty: These are generally given for deliberate offences.The team who is awarded the penalty have the choice to kick at goal, run with the ball, have the put in to a scrum, or kick the ball out for a line out.
3 )A line out: These happen when the ball goes off the side of the pitch. One of the forwards throws the ball in, and both sets of forwards try to catch it. The throw goes against the side who knocked the ball out, i.e. if team A kicked it out, team B throws in (unless it was kicked out from a penalty, in which case team A throws in). For another incredible simulation of this, see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkgINT70gCI
And those are the basics (unless I've missed anything) :)
Personally, I'm a long time Saracens/Scotland fan. It would be great to see anyone interested in rugby post in here! It's a fun game, and fairly easy to learn (mostly anyway)!
By LabouredSubterfugeWell I support England.
I'll be in here lamenting our loss to Ireland on Sunday.
Should be a good game that one, probably decides who wins it in the end.
I'm still bitter about our defeat to Wales last time out.
By operonReal nervous about Sunday can see England beating ud
Gonna be tight, reckon you guys will do it though.
You may want to add these resources
International:
ESPN's rugby site: ESPN Scrum
General Rugby blog / news site Rugby Dump
Domestic sites for AU / Super Rugby:
Foxsports AU
Rugby Heaven
Also. Fk the northern Hemisphere for the joke it is.
International:
ESPN's rugby site: ESPN Scrum
General Rugby blog / news site Rugby Dump
Domestic sites for AU / Super Rugby:
Foxsports AU
Rugby Heaven
Also. Fk the northern Hemisphere for the joke it is.
By giririsssYou may want to add these resources
International:
ESPN's rugby site: ESPN Scrum
General Rugby blog / news site Rugby Dump
Domestic sites for AU / Super Rugby:
Foxsports AU
Rugby Heaven
Also. Fk the northern Hemisphere for the joke it is.
Cheers, will add.
If we going southern Hemisphere, go Chiefs.
By CCSGo that bandwagon! :PBy giririsssYou may want to add these resources
International:
ESPN's rugby site: ESPN Scrum
General Rugby blog / news site Rugby Dump
Domestic sites for AU / Super Rugby:
Foxsports AU
Rugby Heaven
Also. Fk the northern Hemisphere for the joke it is.
Cheers, will add.
If we going southern Hemisphere, go Chiefs.
Nah, chiefs are entertaining as hell to watch. Can't blame anyone for wanting to watch them.
Go Reds! (and our cocaine drug rings).
By giririsssGo that bandwagon! :P
Nah, chiefs are entertaining as hell to watch. Can't blame anyone for wanting to watch them.
Go Reds! (and our cocaine drug rings).
I don't follow it that closely, I support them because they're who my brother supports :P
Ooh a rugby thread :) I don't hate England despite supporting Wales. Always a bit tricky at Stade de France but we've done it before baby. I think we get a tight win and concede no tries.
By MurasakiOoh a rugby thread :) I don't hate England despite supporting Wales. Always a bit tricky at Stade de France but we've done it before baby. I think we get a tight win and concede no tries.
Gonna be tight, neither Wales nor France have been 100% convincing so far. Should be an exciting one though.
Gonna be tight, neither Wales nor France have been 100% convincing so far. Should be an exciting one though.
Far from convincing lol. For (two) teams with a reputation for flair and passion we've been playing some pretty stolid direct stuff. I think Scotland wins today at Murrayfield, but you never know with Italy.
By MurasakiGonna be tight, neither Wales nor France have been 100% convincing so far. Should be an exciting one though.
Far from convincing lol. For (two) teams with a reputation for flair and passion we've been playing some pretty stolid direct stuff. I think Scotland wins today at Murrayfield, but you never know with Italy.
Yeah, the game two weeks ago between us and Wales was pretty interesting. I would hope Scotland win, we've been playing some pretty good rugby and it's been disappointing that we haven't got the results.
Couple of cracking games yesterday, I'm absolutely devastated by the result though.
Come on Ireland today!
Come on Ireland today!
Lost track of the weekend. But the reds lost so :(
Italy won! but at the cost of scotland? :(
I'd rather it have been england. Need england to start blowing up internally before the world cup. Make it even easier for us.
Italy won! but at the cost of scotland? :(
I'd rather it have been england. Need england to start blowing up internally before the world cup. Make it even easier for us.
By ApolloI wouldn't mind watching more Rugby.
Are there leagues? How good are the Irish?
To answer your second question, the Irish are currently the best team in the northern hemisphere (they look like they'll win in the Six Nations) and should do well at the World Cup.
In terms of leagues, there's the English Premiership, the French top 14, the Pro12 which has Irish, Scottish, Welsh and Italian teams in, and Super Rugby, the main Southern Hemisphere tournament. There's also the European Rugby Cup, where as the name suggests the best teams in Europe compete, and the Six Nations, a yearly international competition between England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, France and Italy.
By CCSBy ApolloI wouldn't mind watching more Rugby.
Are there leagues? How good are the Irish?
To answer your second question, the Irish are currently the best team in the northern hemisphere (they look like they'll win in the Six Nations) and should do well at the World Cup.
In terms of leagues, there's the English Premiership, the French top 14, the Pro12 which has Irish, Scottish, Welsh and Italian teams in, and Super Rugby, the main Southern Hemisphere tournament. There's also the European Rugby Cup, where as the name suggests the best teams in Europe compete, and the Six Nations, a yearly international competition between England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, France and Italy.
Irish it is.
This threat STINKS of Union ;)
I played Loose/tighthead prop until 16 , then a year or so playing hooker as it became apparent that i wasn't going to get any fatter/bigger any time soon ;)
Can we start including League here (for England) as , well, maybe it's only me that would be interested but as a spectacle i have always found League much more enjoyable despite predominantly playing union
I played Loose/tighthead prop until 16 , then a year or so playing hooker as it became apparent that i wasn't going to get any fatter/bigger any time soon ;)
Can we start including League here (for England) as , well, maybe it's only me that would be interested but as a spectacle i have always found League much more enjoyable despite predominantly playing union
Pro 12 semi final is the day I'm at a wedding. Which is a bummer because Munster still have a shout at a home game. Hate missing one.
Didn't know we had a Rugby thread, will post more.
Didn't know we had a Rugby thread, will post more.
There's probably less league fans than rugby fans on here, to be fair. but i don't think anyone will care too much.
By CCSchweinsteiger Go To PostPremiership final today, anyone going to be watching? :)why watch second place.