By Plasma Go To PostIt's Groundhog Day.
See you in 2 year's time.
Solanke probably wanted some kind of commitment that he'd get first team games - which tbf is just as likely as getting £50k a week.
Think Spurs will struggle at Wembley, Liverpool will need to strengthen their squad significantly and they finished above United as it is.
By Grizzled Cola Go To PostIf Arsenal did their job and finished so low they could avoid the EL, including budging the Final, id have them good odds to mount a challenge next year.Can't see them challenging but I would give them a good chance of getting their CL qualification trophy back.
Think Spurs will struggle at Wembley, Liverpool will need to strengthen their squad significantly and they finished above United as it is.
Is Solanke a #prospect?
Sounds like he's basically wasted the last year of his development because of the contract impasse, unless he was back in the youth team?
Sounds like he's basically wasted the last year of his development because of the contract impasse, unless he was back in the youth team?
By Hitch Go To PostIs Solanke a #prospect?Every youth player at Chelsea is wasting every year of their career. Solanke is only 19 so unlikely to have had a big impact
Sounds like he's basically wasted the last year of his development because of the contract impasse, unless he was back in the youth team?
By Hitch Go To PostIs Solanke a #prospect?Seems he was probably one of Chelsea's biggest #prospects a few years ago, 40 goal season at you level, scores in youth cup finals.
Sounds like he's basically wasted the last year of his development because of the contract impasse, unless he was back in the youth team?
Iheanacho’s agent: “Talks with West Ham are very advanced I must confess and barring any last minute hiccup he will end up joining them.”
The Rashford vs Iheanacho argument resumes.
By Laboured Go To PostSee you in 2 year's time.Fuck. He's absolutely going to sign another new contract in two years isn't he.
By Plasma Go To PostFuck. He's absolutely going to sign another new contract in two years isn't he.RIP Pele
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostThe Rashford vs Iheanacho argument resumes.One must fall, One must Rise.
By Punished Go To PostOh yeah! I forgot about that. Okay then, my mistake.
Seri is 5ft5"?
Bring me him. That must be around the same height as Gary Medel or Insigne
edit: Medel isn't as short as I thought
Bring me him. That must be around the same height as Gary Medel or Insigne
edit: Medel isn't as short as I thought
By Plasma Go To PostFuck. He's absolutely going to sign another new contract in two years isn't he.Not gonna happen. I will be visiting London soon. with a gun
There is actually a genuine issue with the #prospects in England and the level of competition they face coming up.
Several clubs/managers have spoken about it but I think Guardiola is the most recent one to raise it. It was when he said he doesn't see any academy players breaking into the first team soon. He said the u23 and other youth leagues aren't competitive enough whereas in Germany/Spain academy players play in front of big crowds, against grown men at a very competitive level. Whereas in England the youth leagues are nicey nicey.
Of course - some clubs are manging to bring through talent but in principle he is right. A while ago a few of the 'bigger' clubs floated the idea of their u23 teams entering the football league but of course that was quickly squashed - but it would be a good solution to this problem.
Several clubs/managers have spoken about it but I think Guardiola is the most recent one to raise it. It was when he said he doesn't see any academy players breaking into the first team soon. He said the u23 and other youth leagues aren't competitive enough whereas in Germany/Spain academy players play in front of big crowds, against grown men at a very competitive level. Whereas in England the youth leagues are nicey nicey.
Of course - some clubs are manging to bring through talent but in principle he is right. A while ago a few of the 'bigger' clubs floated the idea of their u23 teams entering the football league but of course that was quickly squashed - but it would be a good solution to this problem.
By Hitch Go To PostSeri is 5ft5"?He's basically Kante if Kante was a pass merchant as well. Fast af too. Similar to Verratti & Naby Keita.
Bring me him. That must be around the same height as Gary Medel or Insigne
edit: Medel isn't as short as I thought
English #Prospects are not going to make it, are they? Then again, the pressure on managers to win things is bloody hell on them.
Montella extends his contract. Good decision. Very good coach. Milan being very sensible so far this window.
There is too much money involved. Young players in the English game get too much too soon, there is no incentive to strive to get better so they never pass the 'promising' stage - Walcott was in the prospect stage for soo long people forget he is nearly 30.
On top of that, as Scum said, the pressure on managers to succeed just mans there is no incentive for them to take the risk.
On top of that, as Scum said, the pressure on managers to succeed just mans there is no incentive for them to take the risk.
Started to feel like if you're not in your team's first 11 by the age of 21 and you came through their system, you should leave
Serie A leds - http://bet.unibet.co.uk/football/serie/bonucci-mertens-and-belotti-make-our-201617-serie-team-season
Making a team by only picking one player from each side. Gonna make a PL one m8s
Pickford; Valencia, van Dijk, Sakho, Evans; Kante, Lallana, Sigurdsson; Sanchez; Kane, Lukaku
dont @ me
Making a team by only picking one player from each side. Gonna make a PL one m8s
Pickford; Valencia, van Dijk, Sakho, Evans; Kante, Lallana, Sigurdsson; Sanchez; Kane, Lukaku
dont @ me
English prospects can make it, even if I also agree that it's harder than most top nations for them to get to a top level.
Still that didn't stop Kane, Alli, Rashford. Pep might be right that the system could be better but I disagree that it's a big reason to not give the prospects a chance either; even more so when they are heralded as some of the best in England.
Still that didn't stop Kane, Alli, Rashford. Pep might be right that the system could be better but I disagree that it's a big reason to not give the prospects a chance either; even more so when they are heralded as some of the best in England.
"Too much" money has fuck all to do with it.
The fact of the matter is that young English players just aren't good and the English youth system is broken, as evidenced by their collective failure do anything worthwhile in the international game.
The fact of the matter is that young English players just aren't good and the English youth system is broken, as evidenced by their collective failure do anything worthwhile in the international game.
By Perfect Blue Go To Post"Too much" money has fuck all to do with it.It was hard for them to do anything in the Euros with Woy Hodgson though.
The fact of the matter is that young English players just aren't good and the English youth system is broken, as evidenced by their collective failure do anything worthwhile in the international game.
Hell, he made Kane shit. It was unbelievable.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostIt was hard for them to do anything in the Euros with Woy Hodgson though.Nr1 corner taker. All it takes apparently.
Hell, he made Kane shit. It was unbelievable.
By FlutterPuffs Go To PostIt was hard for them to do anything in the Euros with Woy Hodgson though.Woy had them a perfect 6/6 in qualifying.
Hell, he made Kane shit. It was unbelievable.
By batong Go To PostNr1 corner taker. All it takes apparently.Apparently it was because he's a good corner taker but lets forget the fact that Kane can find goalscoring positions and head the ball well.
What a shit manager.
If youre on 70k a week by 20 - the mode of thinking is - yup, I am set and you start mentally phoning it in.
Its not the only cause, its a pretty major one, its a factor in the English game because the wages in this league are obscene thanks to all the TV money.
Its not the only cause, its a pretty major one, its a factor in the English game because the wages in this league are obscene thanks to all the TV money.
By Perfect Blue Go To PostWoy had them a perfect 6/6 in qualifying.LVG's United beat Barcelona 3-1 last year. It wasn't the sign of things to come.
People laugh at the golden generation tag, but England had some brilliant players in 2006 or so
Ah well. Wonder if we'll be able to make a better team out of worse players. Doesn't look promising based on the Euros.
Ah well. Wonder if we'll be able to make a better team out of worse players. Doesn't look promising based on the Euros.
By Perfect Blue Go To Post"Too much" money has fuck all to do with it.it doesn't take long for the next gen to roll in
The fact of the matter is that young English players just aren't good and the English youth system is broken, as evidenced by their collective failure do anything worthwhile in the international game.
just like the azzurri, one day your whole generation is doomed and the next year you can literally fill two to three teams worth of GREAT young players.
By Bold 2 in One Go To PostIf youre on 70k a week by 20 - the mode of thinking is - yup, I am set and you start mentally phoning it in.I've started phoning it in earning much less than that, so imagine getting 70k PER WEEK :lol
Its not the only cause, its a pretty major one, its a factor in the English game because the wages in this league are obscene thanks to all the TV money.
yeah, I'll probably stop caring and turn into a journeyman footballer. I mean I'm already a journeyman citizen of the world :lol
it really depends on the player/person in question though, are you in it for the money or do you wanna genuinely climb up the ladder and make a name for yourself?
for me it was always the former. For now at least
Pogba was earning a lot of money at 19 and 20 but he still kept it together. The club is partially responsible if they 'lose' their way
By Vivalapizza Go To PostThere is actually a genuine issue with the #prospects in England and the level of competition they face coming up.You can't get further than the 3rd league with an U23 team, but there hasn't been one that really played at the top level anyway.
Several clubs/managers have spoken about it but I think Guardiola is the most recent one to raise it. It was when he said he doesn't see any academy players breaking into the first team soon. He said the u23 and other youth leagues aren't competitive enough whereas in Germany/Spain academy players play in front of big crowds, against grown men at a very competitive level. Whereas in England the youth leagues are nicey nicey.
Of course - some clubs are manging to bring through talent but in principle he is right. A while ago a few of the 'bigger' clubs floated the idea of their u23 teams entering the football league but of course that was quickly squashed - but it would be a good solution to this problem.
The majority of teams are getting most of their talents out of the U19 these days anyway, some clubs like Leverkusen don't even have an U23 anymore and mainly focus on their U17/U19.
Those teams don't usually play in front of big crowds, unless we're talking about finals.
The work is just alot better and they're able to snatch talents at the right time and form them into decent players, still there are so many of them that don't make it.
Our U19 just won the league and the finals (the league is regional and we'll play with the majority of teams from the West) while the finals are a playoff between the different league winners. Still, there will be only like 2-3 players making it into the team or into a different first league team, the rest might make it into the 2nd or 3rd league or even lower. The rest won't make it to the professional level.
It's hard work, but I think it's alot of different factors playing into that.
What you already mentioned might play a role, but scouting is another thing. You got clubs like City that snatch up talents left and right, but there aren't exactly many going through despite lackluster performances from quite a few players (yes, they're currently wiping out alot of dead weight, but the years before are a good indicator).
You just see that they barely get any chances and due all that money floating around, there is is no need to give an inexperienced players any time on the pitch.
Another point might be the quality of their academies. Since I don't follow the EPL youth teams, I won't be able to judge them. However, alot of the clubs in Germany are just forced to have a decent academy. If they sign a player and he doesn't work out or you got alot of injuries, not every club will be able to spend money or they're not even able to due the transfer window being closed. So their only way to get decent replacements are their youth players.
Dortmund for example had an abysmal academy during the 90s until 2004/5 when the club was close to being bankrupt, so the only choice apart from cutting wages, was to improve the infractsture. Scouting, decent training conditions, good coaches and someone at the top of the youth teams who knows how to handle them.
We greatly benefitted from that and got alot of great players that helped us one way or another. Either getting into the first team or at least generating some money.
The scouting also improved massively in terms of scouting young talents and their ability to make it into the first team.
Pulisic is a pretty good example of were the youth scouts were pretty much on point.
Bayern is a pretty good example for the opposite way. Over the last few years they basically had zero outputs with talented players, they all got sold off or were loaned away. Their U23 was never able to get into the 3rd league and their youth teams aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. They got into the final against Dortmund, but that was a massive suprise due Schalke fucking up.
Now they spent like 70m€ to get their academy up to par again.
By Ciaran Go To PostI've started phoning it in earning much less than that, so imagine getting 70k PER WEEK :lolYour'e right, its definitely more complex than I am making it out to be. There are environmental factors too.
yeah, I'll probably stop caring and turn into a journeyman footballer. I mean I'm already a journeyman citizen of the world :lol
it really depends on the player/person in question though, are you in it for the money or do you wanna genuinely climb up the ladder and make a name for yourself?
for me it was always the former. For now at least
Pogba was earning a lot of money at 19 and 20 but he still kept it together. The club is partially responsible if they 'lose' their way
Pogba is a rare example I feel because he's held together by religious principles to some extent. He comes from poverty too so I think he never took much for granted.
I was referring to English players, perhaps the culture of aspirational excess often leads to losing a sense of perspective.
http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/40073103
You can't make someone hustle if they dont really want to. Even footballers aren't immune to this.
If you're not that talented relative to the rest of the people on the world stage... Eh. Hard to justify giving 140% on the pitch and in training. If you're Cattermole, it's not really going to make a difference.
If you're not that talented relative to the rest of the people on the world stage... Eh. Hard to justify giving 140% on the pitch and in training. If you're Cattermole, it's not really going to make a difference.
By Hitch Go To PostPeople laugh at the golden generation tag, but England had some brilliant players in 2006 or so
Ah well. Wonder if we'll be able to make a better team out of worse players. Doesn't look promising based on the Euros.
uwotm8
PickfordEmbletonHendersonGINGER JUDAS future.
I'm really disappointed by the decision to extend his contract. What it shows yet again is the club are unwilling to make changes despite mounting evidence of a need to do so. What some don't understand is that through predictable implosions, lack of characters and regular issues persisting year after year, the entire squad and club have become stale. There is rarely any energy, enthusiasm, character or even determination showed by these players as a result.
The problem isn't that Wenger hasn't won the league. The problem is - judging from the performances of his players over the last 6 years - they can't be bothered half the time. There is no improvement. If anything, we've regressed as a side.
The Club offering him a renewal is alarming as it suggests they haven't got a clue as to who could replace him. If the team underperform in August, then they will be massive upheaval in the terraces and outside the ground.
The problem isn't that Wenger hasn't won the league. The problem is - judging from the performances of his players over the last 6 years - they can't be bothered half the time. There is no improvement. If anything, we've regressed as a side.
The Club offering him a renewal is alarming as it suggests they haven't got a clue as to who could replace him. If the team underperform in August, then they will be massive upheaval in the terraces and outside the ground.
By domino Go To PostSo Bale is fit for the final. How long into it until Zidane has to sub him out. 17 mins?He won't start.
He will be brought on in second half for Benzema if they are ahead/draw.
Prey is very one note, like Zelda. This better not drag...
She said I know what it's like to be dead
I know what it is to be sad
And she's making me feel like I've never been booorn
American Gods time <3 I've always inexplicably loved Emily, I hope this takes off for her sake.
She said I know what it's like to be dead
I know what it is to be sad
And she's making me feel like I've never been booorn
American Gods time <3 I've always inexplicably loved Emily, I hope this takes off for her sake.
By FlutterPuffs Go To Post
Its done, been done a while, hopefully before pre season.