By Kuma Go To PostHe knows what he said was stupid. Everybody does it.Nah, man. IT2 is legit on another level.
By DY_nasty Go To Postklay don't even dunk
he probably hates basketball
If I had the same girls sliding into my DMs as Klay does I'd probably not care about basketball either
By pilonv1 Go To PostIf I had the same girls sliding into my DMs as Klay does I'd probably not care about basketball eitherKlay knows that with how he looks basketball is making that possible...
Let's think before we post
By blackace Go To Postrofl
Hey, give him credit, he made some plays. Chicago has no guards left who can defend. I just have a hard time buying stock in anybody under 6' who isn't named Iverson.
By livefromkyoto Go To PostHey, give him credit, he made some plays. Chicago has no guards left who can defend. I just have a hard time buying stock in anybody under 6' who isn't named Iverson.Being short isn't an advantage or anything but IT2 isn't some flash in the pan... you are just hating because he a Celtic not because of his height ... might as well keep it 💯
By livefromkyoto Go To PostBut nobody knew just how good Harden was. There was a LOT of debate back & forth. I can tell you nobody anywhere breathed the words "MVP potential." He was a good scorer racking up points against backups and couldn't/didn't defend. He could just as easily have turned out to be hairy Jamal Crawford.
I'm days behind. Still,
Harden is the same defensive liability as a starter as he was from the bench. Saves all that energy for his offense. So yes, we knew. Down the stretch Harden, Westbrook, and Duranton the floor simultaneously was overwhelming for SAS. As soon as Harden bolted, guess who went to the finals out of the West?
Do not forget that this is the same Association that gave Steve Nash consecuative MVPs. Defense wins championships but offense wins everything else.
By Phoenix RISING Go To PostI'm days behind. Still,oddly enough James is playing D this year
Harden is the same defensive liability as a starter as he was from the bench. Saves all that energy for his offense. So yes, we knew. Down the stretch Harden, Westbrook, and Duranton the floor simultaneously was overwhelming for SAS. As soon as Harden bolted, guess who went to the finals out of the West?
Do not forget that this is the same Association that gave Steve Nash consecuative MVPs. Defense wins championships but offense wins everything else.
By livefromkyoto Go To PostWho knew people would be saying the words "if only they had Rondo" in 2017.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostMCW and Jerian Grant need to go straight to chinathey traded for both of them lol
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/eric-gordon-houston-rockets-james-harden-sixth-man/
Gordon whined and complained all the time when it was suggested to move him to a sixth man role while playing for the Pels.
Good for him that he has a much better attitude and situation in Houston. Won't stop me from being bitter that he wasn't that open-minded while playing under a max contract here.
Gordon whined and complained all the time when it was suggested to move him to a sixth man role while playing for the Pels.
Good for him that he has a much better attitude and situation in Houston. Won't stop me from being bitter that he wasn't that open-minded while playing under a max contract here.
Still giving Brooks the side eye despite the win. Porter with only 31 minutes. Dude had 17 and 5 on 4 shots and played 31 minutes. No foul trouble.
it's just a shame that neither can give this team ANYTHING at all--and both are youngry and fighting to stay in the league. When you've got me feeling bad for Hoiberg you fucked up.
By blackace Go To Postthey traded for both of them lol
it's just a shame that neither can give this team ANYTHING at all--and both are youngry and fighting to stay in the league. When you've got me feeling bad for Hoiberg you fucked up.
By Kibner Go To Posthttps://www.theplayerstribune.com/eric-gordon-houston-rockets-james-harden-sixth-man/
Gordon whined and complained all the time when it was suggested to move him to a sixth man role while playing for the Pels.
Good for him that he has a much better attitude and situation in Houston. Won't stop me from being bitter that he wasn't that open-minded while playing under a max contract here.
I thought he never wanted to play for y'all in the first place. Was stupid to match his deal.
By Sho_Nuff82 Go To PostI thought he never wanted to play for y'all in the first place. Was stupid to match his deal.Ahh, yes. Give up the centerpiece of the CP3 deal for absolutely nothing. A guy who, at the time, was projected to be next in line after Kobe and Wade. Just let him walk when he's a RFA.
Lamar was so shattered about being traded to the Pels prior to basketball reasons.
But they should have let Gordon walk yea. If a guy is raising hell about playing for you then it's not worth it. GMs are supposed to have the connections to get a sense of what another player somewhere else is thinking. They should have known Gordon wasn't hype.
But they should have let Gordon walk yea. If a guy is raising hell about playing for you then it's not worth it. GMs are supposed to have the connections to get a sense of what another player somewhere else is thinking. They should have known Gordon wasn't hype.
By Kibner Go To PostAhh, yes. Give up the centerpiece of the CP3 deal for absolutely nothing. A guy who, at the time, was projected to be next in line after Kobe and Wade. Just let him walk when he's a RFA.
Pre-Injury Eric Gordon was a monster. Would been a superstar by now.
By Dark PhaZe Go To PostLamar was so shattered about being traded to the Pels prior to basketball reasons.Or they could have bet on their ability to make it a situation he would enjoy and thrive in, despite poor first impressions.
But they should have let Gordon walk yea. If a guy is raising hell about playing for you then it's not worth it. GMs are supposed to have the connections to get a sense of what another player somewhere else is thinking. They should have known Gordon wasn't hype.
Instead of giving up on a top talent.
That CP3 non-trade to the Lakers is one of the great what-ifs in NBA history. Pau ends up in Houston, the Lakers are much better than they have been for at least a few more years, the Rockets don't have the assets to make the Harden trade, the Hornets get a better return (imo). At the time the Clips offer looked much better but it looks bad in retrospect.
Then again they also might not have been bad enough to get the first pick and AD.
Not to mention that the Clippers continue to slouch along aimlessly under Sterling, but the value of the franchise would have been depressed without Paul making them relevant. Maybe Seattle is able to swoop in and snatch them under those circumstances?
Then again they also might not have been bad enough to get the first pick and AD.
Not to mention that the Clippers continue to slouch along aimlessly under Sterling, but the value of the franchise would have been depressed without Paul making them relevant. Maybe Seattle is able to swoop in and snatch them under those circumstances?
Odds are that Dell would have traded what he got from the Lakers for more future assets and the team would have been worse but lost the lottery so someone else would have wound up with AD.
Any time a known brick-thrower like Derrick Favors stepped to the stripe, 18,000 fans lost their goddamned minds.
>_>
Favors shoots 66% from the line in his career.
https://theringer.com/2017-nba-playoffs-chris-paul-los-angeles-clippers-last-days-of-point-god-15136ed190b2
Bill Simmons, he's not good.
he actually shot 71% last year
this dude..
He’s a better, more efficient, more durable version of Thomas — someone I still consider to be the best pure point guard I ever watched.
this dude..
By blackace Go To PostBeing short isn't an advantage or anything but IT2 isn't some flash in the pan… you are just hating because he a Celtic not because of his height … might as well keep it 💯
I'm actually not an automatic Celtic hater, I loved Pierce, had a throwback & everything. It's just this current crop who I think are super uninspiring (Olynyk is from Toronto though so he gets the hometown pass). They probably would have been sent home by a team that made the 8 seed on a tiebreaker by about now if Rondo hadn't broken his thumb. And this season IT2 is having statistically seems like such an outlier that I keep expecting him to come back to earth.
CP3 could retire tomorrow as one of the seven best point guards ever. I would rank them like this …Oh nevermind, he's just trying to troll Jazz fans again.
1. Magic
2. Oscar
3. Cousy
4. Isiah
5. Curry
6. Nash
7. Paul
(With Curry climbing and Frazier, Kidd, GP and Russ fighting for the next four spots.)
I would put CP3 and Stockton on the same level with Magic a step up and everyone else post-merger below. I don't really know what to do with guys like Oscar and Cousy.
I don't think Simmons has enough info to throw guys like Cousy and Oscar in any list since they played before he was born. I kinda really prefer the "in my lifetime" list if you gotta make one.
Isaiah Thomas being better than Isiah Thomas is more justifiable than Isiah Thomas being better than Stockton tbh.
By reilo Go To PostWhat credentials does Isiah Thomas lack that says he wasn't better than Stockton?this depends on if you are a "rings or nothing" type of guy.
I'm still confused. We're talking about a HoF player (5x All-NBA, 12x All-Star) that finished a career with nearly 19,000 points and over 9,000 assists in a mere 12 seasons (cut short by injury) with a Finals MVP, right?
Isiah's scoring kind of sucked by the time the Pistons were contenders...
A 50% TS% in the 80s is... terrible.
A 50% TS% in the 80s is... terrible.
Oh got it. Isiah finished his career "only" shooting 45FG% so he clearly must've been a second-rate PG. I'm glad this is settled.
Stockton 1990: 17.2 PPG, 14.5 APG, 3.5 TOVs, 61% TS%
Isiah 1990: 18.4 PPG, 9.4 APG, 4 TOVs, 51% TS%
(Rodman and Laimbeer mattered a lot in their winning of titles)
Isiah was obviously a lot better earlier in his career, but by the time the Pistons were winning titles, his efficiency had gotten extremely questionable.
Isiah 1990: 18.4 PPG, 9.4 APG, 4 TOVs, 51% TS%
(Rodman and Laimbeer mattered a lot in their winning of titles)
Isiah was obviously a lot better earlier in his career, but by the time the Pistons were winning titles, his efficiency had gotten extremely questionable.
I don't think many people would say IT > Stockton. I didn't even think it was a debatable thing either really.
Stockton 1990 Playoffs: 15 PPG, 15 APG, 48.2% TS%, first round exit to a lower seed
Isiah 1990 Playoffs: 20.5PPG, 8.2 APG, 56TS%, champs + Finals MVP
Isiah 1990 Playoffs: 20.5PPG, 8.2 APG, 56TS%, champs + Finals MVP
Anyway, I'd rather argue rinngggzzz than TS%, but I don't think it's indefensible to think IT was better than Stockton. It's literally neither here nor there.
By reilo Go To PostAnyway, I'd rather argue rinngggzzz than TS%, but I don't think it's indefensible to think IT was better than Stockton. It's literally neither here nor there.I could go all advanced stats but w/e. Simmons original point is stupid, if you consider Thomas a "true point guard" then Magic is, and then later ranks Magic above him.
He didn't put Stockton in his top 11 point guards all time, so he's clearly trolling again.
That's the thing about using Simmons to make your argument for you. I'm not utilizing Simmons' train of thought, just saying it's not crazy for someone (not Simmons!) to think IT was better than Stockton.
Naw, like... if you're going to play rangz in the first place then you gotta admit IT was slipping and there were other greats doing great things on that squad. Also, that path to the chip was DUMB easy.
here's another way of looking at it,
which player would you want to build around, Stockton or IT?
myself, its Stockton.
which player would you want to build around, Stockton or IT?
myself, its Stockton.
By reilo Go To PostThat's the thing about using Simmons to make your argument for you. I'm not utilizing Simmons' train of thought, just saying it's not crazy for someone (not Simmons!) to think IT was better than Stockton.Only if you consider the usage of advanced stats or really just stats in general not a good argument.
Lebron's path to the Finals has been DUMB easy for a decade now, but that doesn't mean he isn't in the GOAT conversation now.
And IDK how many true greats they had on that squad. Their third leading scorer for the entire playoffs was James Edwards that year.
And that Blazers squad was legit, but whatever.
And IDK how many true greats they had on that squad. Their third leading scorer for the entire playoffs was James Edwards that year.
And that Blazers squad was legit, but whatever.
By reilo Go To PostLebron's path to the Finals has been DUMB easy for a decade now, but that doesn't mean he isn't in the GOAT conversation now.So many key guys got hurt for that pistons chip lol
And IDK how many true greats they had on that squad. Their third leading scorer for the entire playoffs was James Edwards that year.
And that Blazers squad was legit, but whatever.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/245760/Stephen-Currys-Current-Under-Armour-Shoe-Not-Selling-At-Expectations
99 dollars at retail now lul
99 dollars at retail now lul
By reilo Go To PostHe still has him out of the top 7, pretty good trolling.
lol
The Pistons' frontcourt is so interesting.
Rodman and Laimbeer could be teleported from their era to right now and adjust pretty quickly and would be fucking great in this era.
Rodman and Laimbeer could be teleported from their era to right now and adjust pretty quickly and would be fucking great in this era.
By Dark PhaZe Go To Posthttp://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/245760/Stephen-Currys-Current-Under-Armour-Shoe-Not-Selling-At-Expectations
99 dollars at retail now lul
Curry 3s were as offensive as the actual currys fuck you 3s