By KingGondo Go To PostHe is not a genius. He's a pretty damn good GM though.
Losing two MVP candidates = damn good GM.
👌
By diehard Go To Postonly 1 of those is on himNah.
Presti is great at drafting but a shit GM at everything else. I can't remember when he actually won a trade.
On the list of reasons KD left, Presti's GMing is low.
1. Easy ring
2. Shake up the KD brand, shoe sales were sagging
3. Family wanted a change of scenery
4. Draymond promised him they'd be bffs
5. Durant wanted a change of scenery (fair tbh)
6. Presti traded Harden
1. Easy ring
2. Shake up the KD brand, shoe sales were sagging
3. Family wanted a change of scenery
4. Draymond promised him they'd be bffs
5. Durant wanted a change of scenery (fair tbh)
6. Presti traded Harden
By reilo Go To PostNah.Your memory is short.
Presti is great at drafting but a shit GM at everything else. I can't remember when he actually won a trade.
The Ibaka trade (which resulted in Oladipo, Sabonis, and Grant via Ilyasova) and the Payne trade (which resulted in McDermott, Gibson and a second).
lol Durant saw "wait, we got rid of Ibaka so we can play a rookie in Sabonis and a below average guard in Oladipo? That's supposed to make us compete with the Warriors?" and went✌🏻
Presti also traded Ersan after like 3 games and sent along a 1st rounder right away. You were better off keeping Ilysavoa. Then maybe you can say he won a trade.
By KingGondo Go To PostYour memory is short.Bruh, you didn't win those trades lol
The Ibaka trade (which resulted in Oladipo, Sabonis, and Grant via Ilyasova) and the Payne trade (which resulted in McDermott, Gibson and a second).
Presti also traded Ersan after like 3 games and sent along a 1st rounder right away. You were better off keeping Ilysavoa. Then maybe you can say he won a trade.
We were losing Ibaka anyways. We addressed the biggest hole on our roster (SG) and losing Ibaka would have allowed Durant to play the 4 more often since that's his best position.
Durant went to the Warriors because a once-in-a-generation (if that) quirk of the salary cap allowed him to without them giving up anything.
He also knew that going to GS while decapitating OKC would make the ring even easier.
Durant went to the Warriors because a once-in-a-generation (if that) quirk of the salary cap allowed him to without them giving up anything.
He also knew that going to GS while decapitating OKC would make the ring even easier.
By KingGondo Go To PostYour memory is short.
The Ibaka trade (which resulted in Oladipo, Sabonis, and Grant via Ilyasova) and the Payne trade (which resulted in McDermott, Gibson and a second).
I thought Oladipo ain't shit tho... and neither is the supporting cast by extension
By Smokey Go To PostI thought Oladipo ain't shit tho… and neither is the supporting cast by extensionAppropriate emoji. That's some Stephen A-level logic.
He's 24 years old. He either has to make the leap next season or he is what he is.
Oh shit, he turns 25 in a month? lol
Oh shit, he turns 25 in a month? lol
By KingGondo Go To PostAppropriate emoji. That's some Stephen A-level logic.
So YNB got pieces around him because Presti won those trades right, but I thought a key argument for YNB is he has no help.
How can Presti be good at his job yet at the same time YNB is playing with "scrubs"
Also, the argument that you won't have to pay Ibaka now rings hollow when you gonna max Oladipo this summer instead.
Is it a controversial thought to believe that without Westbrook the Thunder win 20 games, max? The Rockets have a pretty solid team around Harden... they probably win 34-38, max without him. It becomes a real argument in semantics when you start debating MVP. I think Westbrook probably helps his team more than Harden when it comes down to it. That isn't meant as a slight against Harden, just shows the type of season Westbrook is having.
By Doomsayer Go To PostIs it a controversial thought to believe that without Westbrook the Thunder win 20 games, max? The Rockets have a pretty solid team around Harden… they probably win 34-38, max without him. It becomes a real argument in semantics when you start debating MVP. I think Westbrook probably helps his team more than Harden when it comes down to it. That isn't meant as a slight against Harden, just shows the type of season Westbrook is having.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-case-for-james-harden-mvp/?addata=espn:clubhouse
The Rockets’ offense this season, one of the 10 best in NBA history, has involved a blend of nearly every type of scoring.1 Harden’s been at the center of the team’s fearsome attack, distributing the ball to his teammates in devastating fashion all season. Roll man Clint Capela has been assisted on 97 percent of his slams, more than any high-frequency dunker in the league. He and Montrezl Harrell often back-cut through the lane untouched by defenses, partly explaining how Houston is the most efficient cutting team in the league. Resurgent Sixth Man of the Year candidate Eric Gordon and sharpshooter Ryan Anderson have been more impactful since leaving New Orleans, getting more wide-open 3s than anyone in the NBA, with about four each per game2.
Almost all of those looks have hinged on Harden’s ability to draw in opposing defenses by forcing them to make damned-if-they-do, damned-if-they-don’t decisions. Harden owns the highest win-share total in basketball this season despite not quite averaging a triple-double like fellow MVP candidate Russell Westbrook. But the impressive part is how he accumulated all those stats, and the broader role he has played in making his teammates better under new coach Mike D’Antoni.
Harden moved to point guard this season, an abrupt shift that has put the ball in his hands an NBA-high nine minutes per game, a whopping 43 percent increase compared to last year and 50 percent more than in 2014. Harden has more than just handled the adjustment; he has thrived because of it. Defenses have generally had no clue how to slow down the Rockets, because Harden himself has been impossible to guard.
At this point I think people saying rockets would be ok without harden are doing so because harden literally makes these guys look better than they are, but since he's a couple of rebounds shy of a triple double, it doesn't matter. That is the only explanation.
By diehard Go To Postuhh Oladipo is already signed for 4-yr/$84MDid he? loool
"We didn't want to pay Ibaka $80-something million"
"But we gotta pay Oladipo!"
By Smokey Go To PostAt this point I think people saying rockets would be ok without harden are doing so because harden literally makes these guys look better than they are, but since he's a couple of rebounds shy of a triple double, it doesn't matter. That is the only explanation.Statistically, the YNB makes a bigger difference to OKC's offense than Harden does to Houston's. Why exactly is another story however.
By Smokey Go To Posthttps://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-case-for-james-harden-mvp/?addata=espn:clubhouse
At this point I think people saying rockets would be ok without harden are doing so because harden literally makes these guys look better than they are, but since he's a couple of rebounds shy of a triple double, it doesn't matter. That is the only explanation.
I get the argument for both sides, I really do. I'm not even trying to diminish Harden's season because it's also incredible. I just think Harden has a better team around him at every position.
Didnt Harden produce the most points ever this season? I know he has the record for most turnovers too but yeah.
That team aint shit without him.
That team aint shit without him.
By diehard Go To PostNah, Steven Adams is better than whoever the Rockets are playing at C.
Capela is putting up a better season statistically, but that is most likely due to what smokey posted earlier.
By s y Go To PostDidnt Harden produce the most points ever this season? I know he has the record for most turnovers too but yeah.Any team that has a top 10 player isn't shit without said player, sans GSW.
That team aint shit without him.
By diehard Go To PostAny team that has a top 10 player isn't shit without said player, sans GSW.Where would you rank Lillard?
By Doomsayer Go To PostIf you switch Harden and Westbrook who comes out ahead? The spacing on Houston is incredible.Westbrook and Pringles would break reality
By DY_nasty Go To PostWestbrook and Pringles would break reality
Harden/Oladipo/Roberson/Gibson/Adams
vs
Westbrook/Beverly/Ariza/Anderson/Capela -- that doesn't even include Lou Williams or Eric Gordon.
The best shooter on the Thunder is probably McDermott.
By s y Go To PostWhere would you rank Lillard?probably somewhere in the .. 14-18 range?
There are a lot of those second tier guys that you could probably put in just about any order and it's fine..
I remember when Paul Allen fired Rich Cho 9 months into the job, and the Blazers didn't suffer for it.
By livefromkyoto Go To Postwe pretty much ended their playoff hope again this year too.
2016-2017 (eliminated)
"Great job Rich, let's keep this train to nowhere rolling."
Eh. Given where they were and what he has to work with, Cho has done fine.
Not amazing. Not bad. Pretty much exactly middle.
Not amazing. Not bad. Pretty much exactly middle.
By rvy Go To PostThe asshole of Europe. There's Japanese restaurants, but I'm not driving for 40 minutes to get to Lisbon and try Japanese food.
By Kibner Go To PostI don't remember which town or what restaurant I tried it on my vacation, but I was disappointed in that business's version of it. I don't remember what I disliked about it since it was like two or three years ago. I'm sure if I had tried it at a different place, I would have been able to find one I liked.
I don't think I have ever seen a real teppan place in California that let you make monjya or hiroshimayaki by yourself with ingredients and a teppanyaki in front of you.
You can't really replicate the same feeling of being able to go to a restaurant and cook it in front of yourself and eat with friends with a few drinks.
But you can make it at home and have okonomiyaki that tastes similar on a pan and any ingredients you want.
It's not hard to make outside of maybe 15 or 20 minutes of prepwork for the batter and cutting all the ingredients ready. Most of the ingredients are staple ones so it's not difficult to find and it's easy to substitute like with Worcester sauce. Only one that I think you might have trouble having is aonori, tenkasu, and nagaimo. Outside of 3 necessary ingredients, there's no wrong way to make it. You can make it and alter it anyway you like.
If you want a recipe, I can give you one.
By livefromkyoto Go To Post広島風！Hiroshimayaki and a yuzu sour makes a good 1-2 punch.
Even up north there was a old man the other summer selling hiroshimayaki for 500円 a serving. You could even buy a set of 20 for 10,000円.
By giririsss Go To PostEh. Given where they were and what he has to work with, Cho has done fine.He took over a 34-win team, selected Kemba in the 2011 draft, and immediately made sure they tanked to an all-time worst 7-wins. The 7-win Bobcats weren't an accident -- Cho didn't take that over, he orchestrated it. He went full tankmode by design -- it's the same thing he wanted to do in Portland a year prior and Paul Allen wanted none of it. They tanked for Anthony Davis and missed.
Not amazing. Not bad. Pretty much exactly middle.
Harden is making washed up injury prod dudes like Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson look like a big 3.
Westbrook isn't making Adams or Oladipo or anyone else on his team better, it's just fuck y'all give me mine and you guys will benefit type of deal.
Houston without Harden becomes the New Orleans Pelicans without AD and Jrue Holiday. That's fucking garbage, OKC-esque.
Harden or Kawhi is MVP. Westbrook, as amazing as he is, is a recency bias towards his MVP candidacy.
Westbrook isn't making Adams or Oladipo or anyone else on his team better, it's just fuck y'all give me mine and you guys will benefit type of deal.
Houston without Harden becomes the New Orleans Pelicans without AD and Jrue Holiday. That's fucking garbage, OKC-esque.
Harden or Kawhi is MVP. Westbrook, as amazing as he is, is a recency bias towards his MVP candidacy.
By reilo Go To PostHe took over a 34-win team, selected Kemba in the 2011 draft, and immediately made sure they tanked to an all-time worst 7-wins. The 7-win Bobcats weren't an accident – Cho didn't take that over, he orchestrated it. He went full tankmode by design – it's the same thing he wanted to do in Portland a year prior and Paul Allen wanted none of it. They tanked for Anthony Davis and missed.Go back. Look at the roster. Come back.
Hornetts had just burned through like every asset they had when Cho took over. And that team was maxed out at 34. With vets.
2010-2011 Hornetts
Don't get me wrong, tanking was the right move when he took over. He just didn't do anything with the draft picks he got from it. He clearly went all in for Anthony Davis (also the smart play)... buuut Hornets would be better off today had Cho drafted Beal and Nerlens.
By giririsss Go To PostEh. Given where they were and what he has to work with, Cho has done fine.
Not amazing. Not bad. Pretty much exactly middle.
3 playoff games won in 6 years. I'm pretty sure any random person could pull that off just by reading draft express and ESPN free agent rankings.
By shun Go To PostYou could even buy a set of 20 for 10,000円.
笑、何で？多すぎる。
By reilo Go To PostHe took over a 34-win team, selected Kemba in the 2011 draft, and immediately made sure they tanked to an all-time worst 7-wins. The 7-win Bobcats weren't an accident – Cho didn't take that over, he orchestrated it. He went full tankmode by design – it's the same thing he wanted to do in Portland a year prior and Paul Allen wanted none of it. They tanked for Anthony Davis and missed."34 win team"
you can't just sum up franchise situations like that lol. He made assets out of human waste.
Dude has pretty much been a solid B outside of the draft, and that's a complete roll of the dice. Not like he's made absurd, indefensible picks either.
IDK, I think it's clear he should've picked Bradley Beal over MKG.
Kemba/Beal/Batum/Nerlens is a much more interesting core to me than Kemba/Batum/MKG/Frank/Zeller.
Kemba/Beal/Batum/Nerlens is a much more interesting core to me than Kemba/Batum/MKG/Frank/Zeller.
By reilo Go To PostIDK, I think it's clear he should've picked Bradley Beal over MKG.much more interesting but probably the same record
Kemba/Beal/Batum/Nerlens is a much more interesting core to me than Kemba/Batum/MKG/Frank/Zeller.
genuinely thought MKG was going to be a 15+ ppg player with elite defense at a certain point, I think this was before some dude fell on his shoulder. idk what to think about him anymore. He hasn't even been able to put out a 30MPG season.
By DY_nasty Go To Post"34 win team"
you can't just sum up franchise situations like that lol. He made assets out of human waste.
Dude has pretty much been a solid B outside of the draft, and that's a complete roll of the dice. Not like he's made absurd, indefensible picks either.
I had to go back and check just to be sure my statement wasn't crazy.
If your team was run by a random fan who just picked whatever nbadraft.net's mocks said to pick since 2011, this would be your squad:
Kawhi Leonard
Bradley Beal
Cody Zeller
Noah Vonleh
Frank Kaminsky
You are paying this dude millions to make your team worse than some random redditor could do. Since he's a random internet person, he probably would have just paid JVG whatever he wanted to coach there too.
I don't think saying he should've picked Kawhi is fair since they weren't drafting in that range. Kawhi is like the all-time "who truly saw that development coming?" pick.
I do think saying that Nerlens and Beal should've been the ones chosen is fair given that they were on the board for them and got picked right after and Charlotte ended up drafting players for the same position. But they also could've picked Klay instead of Kemba, but that's easy to second guess in hindsight, not so much at that time.
I think Nerlens and Beal felt more obvious on draft night though.
I do think saying that Nerlens and Beal should've been the ones chosen is fair given that they were on the board for them and got picked right after and Charlotte ended up drafting players for the same position. But they also could've picked Klay instead of Kemba, but that's easy to second guess in hindsight, not so much at that time.
I think Nerlens and Beal felt more obvious on draft night though.
By reilo Go To PostI don't think saying he should've picked Kawhi is fair since they weren't drafting in that range. Kawhi is like the all-time "who truly saw that development coming?" pick.I mean. the whole league wanted nothing to do with Nerlens. Guys with those sorts of knee issues ... you just don't need that on a team that can't get wins. Dejuan blair fell out of the first round because of it.
I do think saying that Nerlens and Beal should've been the ones chosen is fair given that they were on the board for them and got picked right after and Charlotte ended up drafting players for the same position. But they also could've picked Klay instead of Kemba, but that's easy to second guess in hindsight, not so much at that time.
I think Nerlens and Beal felt more obvious on draft night though.
Beale probably was the right pick, but, look at his injury history too. It aint stellar. Better player now, though.
Keep in mind, i think the Hornetts are one of the teams in the league that really can't go over the cap. Jordan has just said no.
Outside of drafting (which may not really be on Cho), the franchise has done well to turn around what was a really bad culture.